do you guys have links to the new grenze viewer? they said it was 20gb now

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>>8714224
Almost. It's a little bit heavier. 26gb.

Pixeldrain.
Base viewer: u/FmGWcavw
6/24/25 Update: u/7m2yoQcw
7/1/25 Update: u/ary7zUQX
7/18/25 Update: u/CTGaCdDv
7/30/25 Update: u/AunaVT8t
8/13/25 Update: u/Ac5YuciP
8/21/25 Update: u/2si5E9pr
9/03/25 Update: u/B2WyvuNV

do you still need the old viewer or nah if so, is it fine to delete the old one? Thanks for the links

>>8714241
You need the base viewer and then you need to apply every patch to the base viewer in order.

Got it

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>>8714241
It's probably fine. You can throw away the old viewer, i think.

I can't start the viewer
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 317, in _m1_00gltest__gl_test
_gl_performance_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 342, in _gl_performance_test
ui.interact(suppress_underlay=True, suppress_overlay=True)
Exception: DirectSoundCreate8: Out of memory

What dependency do I need. My viewer is not working even the base viewer alone is not working. Is this because of Windows 11 or is it because of me missing dependency?

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>>8715636
DirectSoundCreate8: Out of memory
Sounds like you don't have enough RAM, or free space on your hard drive. Make some free space, or try run the viewer after having closed non-esential programs.

>>8716025
I stayed on windows 10 and all i got to do was a simple extract and run. Try to run the viewer in windows 10 compatibility mode if that function still exists in 11.

>>8716086
64GB RAM and 612GB free space on that M.2 drive. No idea why it is not running. I am on windows 11 tho.

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>>8716116
That's plenty enough space. That said, if you have several partitions on you computer, make sure the viewer has been placed in the drive that has the most free space. It's easy to install an app or game on D:, or G: by mistake instead of the usual C:.

If it wasn't human error causing the problem, try running the viewer in windows 10 compatibility mode.

>>8714233
Thank you for the links. Do you have the viewer for Beat Wars Escalation Heroines (Alicesoft gacha) by any chance?

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>>8716170
Never heard of it. I got nothing.

It seems that some files are missing. Are there actually some empty files, or are there some corrupted files?

[code]
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 164, in script
jump expression _in_replay
ScriptError: could not find label 'scene_101423H1'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 164, in script
jump expression _in_replay
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1757, in execute
rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
File "renpy/script.py", line 918, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'scene_101423H1'.

Windows-10-10.0.26100
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Grenze Viewer (仅供学习交流,严禁商业用途,请于24小时内删除,如果是买来的请回头举报出售者) 2.1
Mon Sep 8 19:15:47 2025
[/code]

>>8716315
If 423 is the unit that I think it is. It does not have any scenes because they are not in the game files. Those are going to be added later.

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>>8716318
The bunny girl scene? I don't have it either. In addition to 423, the viewer is also missing unit 408 and 409.

>>8716146
I have several drives on my PC there is no more windows 10 compatibility mode. I got these errors
I'm sorry, but errors were detected in your script. Please correct the
errors listed below, and try again.


The label scene_101399H1 is defined twice, at File "game/script/easy_dialog-5.rpy", line 1:
label scene_101399H1:
and File "game/script/easy_dialog-6.rpy", line 12571:
label scene_101399H1:


The label scene_101399H2 is defined twice, at File "game/script/easy_dialog-5.rpy", line 801:
label scene_101399H2:
and File "game/script/easy_dialog-6.rpy", line 13411:
label scene_101399H2:


Ren'Py Version: Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Tue Jun 17 00:56:40 2025
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 317, in _m1_00gltest__gl_test
_gl_performance_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 342, in _gl_performance_test
ui.interact(suppress_underlay=True, suppress_overlay=True)
Exception: DirectSoundCreate8: Out of memory

>>8716146
Here is the full trace back.
Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 662, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 148, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 922, in run_context
context.run()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 207, in script call
call _gl_test
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in script
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 390, in
$ __gl_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 317, in _m1_00gltest__gl_test
_gl_performance_test()
File "renpy/common/00gltest.rpy", line 342, in _gl_performance_test
ui.interact(suppress_underlay=True, suppress_overlay=True)
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3286, in interact
self.start()
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2200, in start
renpy.audio.audio.init()
File "renpy/audio/audio.py", line 955, in init
renpysound.init(renpy.config.sound_sample_rate, 2, bufsize, False, renpy.config.equal_mono)
File "renpysound.pyx", line 390, in renpy.audio.renpysound.init
File "renpysound.pyx", line 98, in renpy.audio.renpysound.check_error
Exception: DirectSoundCreate8: Out of memory

Windows-10-10.0.26100
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Grenze Viewer (仅供学习交流,严禁商业用途,请于24小时内删除,如果是买来的请回头举报出售者) 2.1
Mon Sep 8 11:55:04 2025

>>8716329
That is strange because my viewer has those scenes.
>>8716535
I see what your issue is but my viewer also does not have this problem.

I'll just drop the full viewer again next update. Should fix all those problems.

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>>8716533
>I'm sorry, but errors were detected in your script. Please correct the
errors listed below, and try again.
The viewer isn't mine, i took it from panda.

>>8716717
>That is strange because my viewer has those scenes.
Thanks. That's what i was wondering. I must have missed one of the updates.

>I'll just drop the full viewer again next update.
starkiller7890?

>>8716798
Yeah, I am the one who does the viewer updates on panda

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>>8717053
I see. Thanks for sharing the new viewer with us. It must have taken time and effort.

>>8717053
Thank you for sharing it with us, and thank you for your hard work in adding character sprites and synchronizing the sound effects on your viewer.

>>8717138
>>8717146

I appreciate your guy's thanks even if most of that work was done by someone else, I'm just here to make sure that the viewer stays up to date.

how did you get these updates?

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>>8714173
Dear God, it should be illegal for a character to be as hot as Lutia.
Why haven't they translated ER2 yet?

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>>8717398
Still commendable.

>>8717684
Yeah, she's top tier. She has a great va too.

>Why haven't they translated ER2 yet?
Risk aversion to problematic content, i suspect. Hildegarde's loli form and the torture segment come to mind. It's much more intense than whatever ER1 has in stock. Not to mention ER2 bears more superficial ressemblance to your everyday fantasy harem - those with big booba elves and what not, you know the ones - than the psychodramas/death games more commonly associated with torture porn. Not sure your typical normie adjacent harem enjoyer is ok with his favorite waifu getting roasted alive, raped to death, or having her brain punctured by needles in the main storyline.

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New character in the files might be coming soon.
They already have all the files for the new character so it'll be in the viewer when I update it tomorrow. Also the battle pass unit had their scenes added to the game now as well and that is also coming tomorrow.

Viewer update is out but since its the whole complete viewer as I currently have it, its a pretty big file now.

>>8718419
Could you also share the link here, since accessing Sadpanda has been quite complicated these days?

im not sure why but the viewer wont start for some reason

>>8718566
/u/9WLdFPaU
>>8718578
If you are not getting an error message my best guess is that it just takes forever to load

Where the heck is that Sadpanda forum everyone’s talking about?

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>>8719468
Anon, if you are'nt able to find that out by yourself, chances are you'll just end up wasting a lot of your time trying and failing to enter. Are you looking for something in particular?

>>8719498
I know what Sadpanda is and how to get on Ex, no problem there. But I can't seem to find any posts or viewers related to ERG. I did manage to find some old CG posts from removed updates, though.

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>>8720502
Grenze's gallery comment section.

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>>8717684
Lutia so good they gave her advance appearance in the manga adaptation.

New update out

u/PcHr8sz7

>>8717743
She's so hot that i tried my best to collect every version of her in Grenze, hope they give us one more, maybe anniversary

Will viewers no longer come to MEGA?

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Would any here know what to do when this pops up with the viewer?

Any anons have the waffle dlcs?

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New Update

/u/YscWeJ5q

>>8729537
Thank you

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>>8724120
>u/PcHr8sz7
Is there another update between this (9/17/25) and the 9/03/25 update? This is how many viewer looks after the 9/17/25 update applied

>>8731062
This one
/u/9WLdFPaU

The viewer is just flat out not starting anymore instead of throwing errors. I am going to try to run it in a Windows 10 VM.

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New Update

/u/Ljr9ce9x

No story scenes in the files yet

>>8734282
Thank you for the patch. But unfortunately, there is something wrong with it.
After installing it I get an infinite loop error.

I have reinstalled the viewer 3 times and I keep getting the same error.
These are the 4 files of the viewer that I use:
9/10/25 Update: /u/9WLdFPaU
9/17/25 Update: /u/PcHr8sz7
9/24/25 Update: /u/YscWeJ5q
9/30/25 Update: /u/Ljr9ce9x

The first 3 works, but when I add the forth one it won't start.

The error:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 10853, in script
screen G101318:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 10853, in script
screen G101318:
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 560, in main
renpy.game.context().run(node)
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 10853, in script
screen G101318:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 10853, in script
screen G101318:
File "renpy/execution.py", line 61, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Windows-10-10.0.26100
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
Grenze Viewer (仅供学习交流,严禁商业用途,请于24小时内删除,如果是买来的请回头举报出售者) 2.1

>>8735022

Use this 9/30/25 Update instead

/u/L8wScfY3

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>>8734282
Wow. Holy curvy elves bonanza. Today is a good day. Never tought i'd see that elf captain on the left get the dick. She dodged them all until now somehow. Well ... i know how, she supposedly died in ER2. I guess something happened in Grenze, and she was brought back or something. Anyway, greatest unit in a looong while. Pretty dark too.

>>8728454
I had a link saved up. It's dead. F

>>8735312
Thank you, now it works.

>>8714173
Did an english version of Grenze ever get released?

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>>8735710
No. The only other official version is the chinese one, and i think it was discontinued; which is unfornutate considering it was providing us with uncensored cg.

Do you guys have a way to auto-translate Ren'Py?

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>>8735995
Nope.

>>8735312
Do you ever plan on releasing the actual files from the game? The viewer at the moment is a mess and maybe having the game being done in Ren'Py was not the best idea? Or at least it should be done to make the viewer look a bit more like the actual game, kinda like the Taimanin RPGX viewer.

>>8736376

If someone were to want to make a viewer themselves outside of renpy, I would not mind providing the files for that.
I only used renpy because all the previous viewers were based on that and I am not all that familiar with optimal renpy coding and the like. I am not really familiar with the HTML/Node.js system the other viewers use either. This is more of a hobby/personal project for me anyway.
I know how to get the files for a couple other DMM/Fanza games but I do not really have the time to try to figure out how create a new viewer that supports spine.

>>8736792
Do you wanna keep some contact elsewhere of this thread? I'm the guy making these torrents on sukebei, so you can find my contact info there: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/4375735

>>8736376
I forgot to mention, I am also on Matrix if you so prefer.
By the way, if you have joined my server, let me know so I can add you and talk through PM if you'd so like.

>>8729537
Big sad
Can only pray to waffle gods

>>8739170
Telegram?

>>8739955
Yes and no, I need a new user for it. And I was talking to the creator of the second version of the viewer, with whom I managed to get into contact with already (in fact he was sharing multiple servers with me already lol), and has told me some information.

In fact I already got some more information than he knew, because the security in this game is... well, non-existent. I might work on a complete revamped viewer, but no promises since I am already on so many modding projects of mine.

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New Update

/u/8VsSUZvU

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Am I missing an update? or put a broken one maybe? Any help please?

>>8741368

I think its this one

/u/9WLdFPaU

Does anybody have a screenshot of how the game looks like for the characters that have an animated screen?

If there was a Discord or any other place to contact people for Waffle content that process would be faster for sure....

>>8741359
Thank you for the update

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New update

/u/HxVCaXZe

>>8741359
Thx

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New VNs on the way

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>>8751609
Restart? What do they mean by that? A reboot? Or is it just their way of saying that they intend to pick things up from where they left off? Eden's Ritter 3? Mmh ... idk, smells more and more like an reboot actually, otherwise they would have gone with a regular announcement. But then again, maybe it's just their way of doing things. I guess we'll get fixed soon enough.

>>8751609
Really need to know what that "restart" mean.

>>8751609
Really excited to see them do more VNs. The latest one Waffle released was good but way too short. Also they need to be translated, but more importantly, UNCENSORED.

Also, does anyone have the raw files for the uncensored version of Grenze? I need them for something... (please don't tell me the torrent on EXH because it is just the CGs)

New Update

/u/HMVx9r6P

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A bunch of news, but no real answers about the reboot situation.
First, Eden's Ritter 1 is going to get a HD rerelease next month. Sure, why not. Better cg quality is always welcomed. Next is a new game sheduled for 2026 : Eden's Ritter II: Cecilia Gaiden. Not that hyped about this, i don't fuck with Cecilia. Too basic for me. And lastly, an announcement for Eden's Ritter Grenze Gaiden. No date, no details, and no confirmation on it being a new gacha or a vn tie-in to Grenze.

Things are moving, which is reassuring in a way, given the state of the hentai industry nowadays. But the picture remains murky. With so little info it's difficult to tell which direction Waffle is going to take. In an ideal world we'd soon dine on two new vn of the most exquisite quality funded by unlimited gacha money, a unique example of gacha finally giving back after having taken so much. If we get half of that i'll take it as a miracle.

>>8753632
To be fair, Waffle is doing fine in terms of VN output. The problem comes with most other companies that just do shitty VNs or simply erased that word from their dictionary.

Excited for the Cecilia VN if done right, while indeed is somewhat basic, it is used pretty well (in the gacha scenes, not in the first game, that was really boring...).

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>>8753636
Just checked vndb and you're right, Waffle does have a respectable vn outpout. Better than most even. Too bad im not into any of the games post Eden's Ritter 2 Gaiden.

>Cecilia VN basic
Ah, not what i meant. Cecilia the heroine is the one i find basic. I can see why you'd call the game itself basic tho, the structure and the worldbuilding certainly are. But other elements prevent me from labeling it boring. First of them being Noein. Mogudan doesn't miss when it comes down to drawing big juicy asses. There's also a rich and varied bestiary, a lot of bad endings, and i can't hate a game that features women in broken celestial armor. We definively don't get enough of that type of sexy armor in hentai.

>>8753643

Oh, I did understand you. The thing is, most of the scenes included in the Eden's Ritter games minus the second game are just plain uninteresting, specially because they just rely on tentacles or weird animals like the spider monster...
So that means that sadly, Cecilia had to be most of the time in the games were the boring scenes were included.

Regarding the VN output from Waffle, well it is definitely inconsistent for me, but for example, the latest small VN they made for the JK girl was pretty nice, albeit really short (the reduced price justified it though).
I wish we had more games like Eden's Ritter (medieval themed like) that are not vanilla like Kyonyuu Fantasy.

>>8714173
is this rpg game?

>>8753776

No, this is Patrick.

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>>8753670
Oh yeah, the ER2 is way more interesting than ER1, no objection here. I'm just reticent to deny ER1 its laurels just because it was outshined by its sequel.
>more games like Eden's Ritter (medieval themed like) that are not vanilla
In principle these aren't rare, Kuroinu, Elfen King, Hime to Aiyoku no Sacrifice, - insert low quality Miel game #9031 here -, etc ... But i get you, starting from ER2 it feels like Eden Ritter is the only franchise that delivers this particular blend of dark epic fantasy. Not to mention ER is also Lesbian Couples the Game. A pretty unique flavor in a medieval power fantasy world dominated by the ten thousands times iterated upon twin kings tropes: "i'm a warlord ... so imma rape everything on sight", and "i got wronged in the past but then i suddenly became op somehow ... so imma rape everything on sight".

>>8753776
Yes and no. Eden's Ritter 1, 2, and the multiple gaidens are visual novels with no gameplay, so they can't be considered rpg. Grenze does fit however. It's a browser game, an auto-battler that it plays itself for the most part, but since the player has to manage the powers and the loadouts (i think?never played it) it falls into the rpg category in my book. Purists might say otherwise. Anyway

>>8753940
>Yes and no
thanks it has nice graphics so i was not sure if it was RPG or VN, shame
>>8753785
updooted

>>8753940
Still waiting for a proper translation, and uncensored. But my god MangaGamer is the only company that does Waffle products, but they only pick up Kyonyuu Fantasy (in fact, 5 is already confirmed), but my god, they take longer to do a simple translation than the actual game itself...

Also, is there any Waffle related server? I find really odd that there's no proper place to talk about Waffle-related content at all... I can do a server on Discord or somewhere else like there's for Taimanin if there's none.

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>>8753987
>they only pick up Kyonyuu Fantasy
That's to be expected. A big booba vanilla game is always going to outsell the torture porn fiesta that is ER2. Businesswise the choice is clear. No mystery here.

>Waffle related server?
I don't know any. Again, not surprising, Eden's Ritter and Waffle games in general are pretty niche, nowhere near the level of recognizability enjoyed by Taimanin. Many people have never touched a Taimanin game either, but as they are into hentai they have been exposed to Asagi or Yukikaze. They might not even know the names, but they vaguely know that that tough looking cool ass ninja chick wielding a katana is from somewhere nonethless. The same cannot be said for any of the waffle girls, or most hentai babes in existence really. I wouldn't go as far as saying Asagi and Yugikaze are the Mario and Luigi of hentai in term of notoriety, buuuut ... then ... who else?

>>8754063
I'll think about it then.

>>8752913
I have a question. I don’t know how to update it. Could you explain it to me?

>>8754226

I'm not the one who's making the updates to this mess of a viewer, but I can tell you that the method to do so, is pretty simple. You get the base viewer (from... somewhere), and you just pray that you have all of the updates and just apply them in order to the folder called "game",

Keep using it for now, that's the best thing I can tell you for now, although keep an eye on this thread for some big updates on the matter.

Hey, I'd like to ask to anyone into the lore of the VNs and this game:

What is the general premise of this game? Does the protagonist summon the girls to further his power into the world and/or to have his way with them?
Also how are the girls ending up in rape scenarios and such? Are they taken advantage of by enemies/tricked or simply defeated?

Thanks to anyone gracious enough to clue me (and anyone else as interested) in ^o^

>>8754794
>the general premise of this game? Does the protagonist summon the girls to further his power into the world and/or to have his way with them?
>Also how are the girls ending up in rape scenarios and such? Are they taken advantage of by enemies/tricked or simply defeated?

As for the gacha goes, easy, read the Bond story (like the game calls it), and then the scenes... well they are there because Eden's Ritter is an adult franchise. But considering how the VN works... they can kinda make sense honestly. Why?

Because the VNs are dead simple, every time you are presented with a choice there two options, the one that continues with the game, and the other one presents you with a bad end (yes, for EVERY CHOICE), that includes an entire scene, and that's without counting all of the unavoidable rape.

From what I have translated from some scenes, there does not seem to be any kind of protagonist per se in the actual lore, there only seems to be any kind of interaction with the actual characters themselves.
In fact, some of the first characters the game has are just the characters from the VNs and have associated with them some of the scenes of the VNs, giving even less reasons to bother with the story here.
There might be a some sort of story here, but in the end, it's just a gacha...

Regarding the VNs themselves, honestly the VNDB description do a really good job describing them. I say this because well... let's just say that they are pretty long, but ultimately it all boils down to the world going to shit due to monsters and then *spoiler alert*, some of the main characters end up going insane for an unavoidable death.

Here are the VNDB pages:
- Episode 1: https://vndb.org/v20357
- Episode 1 (Extra): https://vndb.org/v25555
- Episode 2: https://vndb.org/v24582
- Episode 2 (Extra): https://vndb.org/v28155

Also on another note, fuck it, Discord server (which is a WIP as of now, let me work on it) for those who wanna join: https://discord.gg/nx7VgwZDbA

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>>8754794
I don't know much about what happens in the gacha, but like >>8754871 said, the big picture is rather simple.
A kingdom(ER1)/shady empire(ER2) is threatened by various evils. Those can be internal or external, and range from secret cults, invading armies, to cataclysm rank mythical monsters. Fortunately, the princess(ER1)/empress(ER2) has access to a source of divine power (implied to be the player if i remember that right) that grants her big powa transformation and quasi immortality. But that mojo has a price. It do be making them extra h-h-horney. It's so dire that even extreme pain gets converted into pleasure. Take note that it is particularly dangerous in battle because taking a beating means getting overwhelmed by waves of powerful orgasms, which in turn leaves our pseudo-magical girl even more vulnerable to the next beating That's the maso pig cycle, and at that point immortality start to become a curse.
Political intrigue, betrayal, power of friendship, lesbian love, corruption and redemption, that's the sort of stuff you can expect. Also, no male protagonist. Main girl and her deuteragonist run the show.

>how are the girls ending up in rape scenarios and such?
Most of the time, defeat in battle. But they fall to blackmail, manipulation, or treachery on occasion. Surprise attacks works too. They also can get captured for long stretches of time during which they're defenceless from one rape scene to the other.

I'd like to see a viewer for MEGA and similar services.

do I need to add all of the updates to the base viewer or is the latest one enough?

I'd like all the updates to be added. Please.

>>8756988
Just use any Pixeldrain proxy bypass page.

>>8757219
Read >>8754657, the base viewer is at >>8714233. Install the updates from this messages, and then go through the next updates inside this thread one by one.

>>8757753
Dafuq does that even mean?

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>>8757942
He probably wants all the updates to be assembled in one single file. I think it's going to happen eventually, but i don't see the need right now; there aren't that many.

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>>8758374
thanks

I wonder why nobody has made a ingame CG/cutscene videos of this game, I've seen quite a lot of RPGX but nothing new come out from this game

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>>8761123
Not surprising. How many scenes are there in Grenze, currently? More or less 700, right? Suppose for one sec that each one of these takes an average of 30 min to setup and record, at a rate of 12h a day it would take an entire month to complete the whole thing. Quite a commitment. And that's not even counting the time and money spent playing the gacha to unlock all the scenes.

>>8761123
Just record the scenes that you are interested into my lord. Besides, isn't better to use the viewer already? Ren'Py already supports Android...
If you are that lazy and entitled that you need somebody to spoonfeed you the videos, you should maybe rethink twice about you said.

Guys, is Eden's Grenze a good game? I started playing Kyonyuu Fantasy Burst (from the same company) and I liked it. I downloaded EG to see what it was like but uninstalled it when I saw it had multiple servers. Is it a good game for beginners?

>>8761524
I'm already hooked into 9 different gacha games, adding one more just to record the scenes doesn't worth it to me and probably will break me, and if i really want to bust it i can just look for the ripped in game CG images. My question is leaning more into preservation of the game on video format (thought we still have the CG images in case they pulled the plug on the game).

>>8762484
>I'm already hooked into 9 different gacha games
I don't know how you guys do this. I keep up with 3 and even then I'm debating dropping one (Legeclo).

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>>8762484
9 gachas? You must be extremely rich. Or extremely poor.

>preservation on video format
Noble cause, but the sad truth is that Grenze requires a diproportionate amount of work compared to your already not easy to manage average eroge. Not to mention it's not over and done once all the h-scenes are put online. They have to stay there, and you can bet your ass that some of them will inevitably get nuked at random. Not a happy fun time when that happens.

>>8762484
The thing that needs to be preserved in video format is everything outside the CGs anf actual scenes of the game (minus the actual """""game"""""" combats), because this lets us kniw how the game did look like, and thus, helping us recreate its design when recreating the game's look through a viewer.

People who record the scenes in video format tend to do it because there is no other way to extract the scenes for games that have a high level of security implemented. But for Eden's Ritter? You don't even need to pass the tutorial to even be able to get EVERYTHING.

>>8758374
nice

The sound effect volume adjustment doesn't seem to be working properly. It's incredibly noisy.

>>8762532
This. I remember there's actually quite a lot of eden's ritter grenze H-Scene videos out there, specifically in spankbang and now most of them are gone without a trace, including the one with Mahou Shoujo AI collab.

>>8762532
>>8762644
>>8763336
Ah yeah i forgot that anything that posted online could be gone anytime unless someone archived them locally.

>>8762644
You mean the viewer above and its patches contains all the CG, Sounds and scripts to play the cutscenes without needing to create or even play the game first?

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>>8767997
I mean, you can. Obviously I recommend the playing the game up to certain point to understand the code the game has, otherwise you'll be double-guessing what every part of the code does.

This is why I say to record most of the gameplay, so that way we know how the game actually looks. Remember, once the game is down, nobody can actually decipher how the game actually looks like without a full server reconstruction, and that is a monumental task.

>>8768376
man I want to grope some tits

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In the current event, you can get a total of 20,000 points + any amount of payment to get a ticket for Grenze, which is a 10-draw specification including limited characters, so don't forget to draw it.

Does anybody who has any skin could help me out knowing how to select a paid-only skin for the main menu? I'm doing this viewer for the game, and I'm trying to be as faithful as possible to the original game.

>>8774422

(continuation of the previous message because 4ch thinks that a link is spam apparently)

Here's a video of my current progress (excluding the character select since that's not accessible from the main menu I have developed atm): /u/egd3cnJn (on pixeldrain)

I am frequently posting these updates on the Discord I created recently for the game/Waffle in general: nx7VgwZDbA (on discord)

>>8753632
About a month later and still no info on what's going on.

There's still no new game?

>>8714173
>tentacles
/d/ is that way

>>8775862
Buddy, they are clearly now focused on letting the "hype train" on the HD remaster of Eden's Ritter 1. When that game gets released, they'll start announcing stuff for the new game.

You'll keep forgetting that VN companies tend to just announce their new products like... 1 month before it gets released.

Has there been a Viewer update since 8768012?

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update 9/03/25 does not include 101423.
Why?

Question, do I skip the new base viewer/updates from this post
>>8714233
>Base viewer: u/FmGWcavw

and take this one instead?
>>8718928
>u/9WLdFPaU

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>>8779270
No.

>>8779423
If you are so adamant on getting the latest CGs, find the way to get the game files (spoiler: it's way too easy).

>>8780824
It does not include the latest updates, fyi, but take it if you want.

On another note, here's the latest update of my viewer. At the moment the main menu's feature pending to do is just the button to show and hide the UI (besides any effect to make the UI transition more clean).

Then, I'll have to finish creating the skins selection screen, and basically all of the scenes themselves, which is going to be a VERY LONG process, like, really long. As always, I'll put the updates before here: https://discord.com/invite/nx7VgwZDbA

Oh, and for 2003th time, if anybody has the Erolabs uncensored released backup up somewhere, contact me please.

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>>8780930
Wrong picture. This is the one I just made right now (yes, the sprite shown here is animated, just in case you wanna know).

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>>8780930
There's a decensored gallery on panda. Is that what you're looking for or is it no good?
https://exhentai.org/g/3157296/5679009a7b/

>>8780994
Two things: first, the gallery is completely missing the sprites of the characters, which are uncensored too. Second, I'm looking for the RAW Unity asset files that create the game.
If someone happens to have just the asset files for the CGs and the sprites, well, I'm okay with it, but preferably I'm looking for the complete game (if that was even possible with Erolabs).

>>8754063
Is this from the gacha? I want to see more of her.

>>8781390
Yes, it's a new character, so don't expect seeing anything from her (in whatever variation she might come up) anytime soon.

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>>8781390
Yeah, this scene is from the gacha. Her first and only other appearence is in Eden's Ritter 2 Gaiden, more specifically the elf sisters dlc. She has only one scene, and she shares it with Lutia. Pic rel >>8777413

Also, she voiced by a different actress now, i think? I hear Takanashi Hanami's Asagi zero all over those moans. They're quite distinct.

>>8781641
Is the gacha machine translated? I am only starting to play the original game right now.

>>8781945
Yes and no. Yes because it was partially translated, and no because I don't think anyone happens to have backup up the files from the Erolabs release, so I think that said version of the game has been lost to time.

>>8776403
They will never learn

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>>8777413
>>8781641
>the elf sisters dlc
Maybe I'm blind but I don't find it in panda.

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>>8783909
You're not blind, it was missing. Problem resolved:
https://exhentai.org/g/3661229/ff92f20cf7/

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>>8784215
Thanks. Today will be my last day of NNN, I'm gonna bust my nut to this tomorrow.

Lutia is so fucking delicious. I don't normally care for elves really, but her design is so corruptable and rapeable.

>>8784215
>>8717743
is there a gallery of these tapestry CGs?

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>>8785293
On panda? I don't think so. I found those on the official site.
http://www.waffle1999.com/game/111edens01hd/shop.html

The dev blog might have some too, depending on what you're looking for. It's annoying to navigate tho.
http://www.waffle1999.com/blog/waffleb/wmaind.cgi

>>8785367
That's too bad, the watermark is a blemish on otherwise really high quality art. I guess Waffle wants the preorders so people can receive these as bonuses. I've spied a few of them on second hand shops for other Waffles but it's a shame to see them possible become lost to the net and time. Maybe I'll try and compile them into a gallery on panda.

Is the viewer translated already?
Also here is a page with translated bios of each character. https://site s.goo gle.com/view/ed-ri-gr/char acters/5-stars-characters/5-stars?authuser=0

I hope they have some the harder and grittier scenes in the next game

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More updates to my upcoming viewer, animated scenes can be viewed either animated or non-animated (both uncensored thankfully).

I plan on releasing a public beta once everything minus what I need to do the scenes themselves (due to the HUGE amount of stuff to do, and specially testing), so you can at least see the CGs and everything else.

Reminder that the latest patch for the old viewer was posted in my server for Waffle games: https://discord.com/invite/nx7VgwZDbA

If you wanna request any particular feature (that makes sense and is not stupid or just way too much work for what it's worth), feel free to say so.

>>8790017
sauce chef

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>>8791988
https://hitomi.la/reader/1782267.html#38

>>8792095
Apparently I already had that DLC, sadly it's mostly just tentacles, no wonder I didn't even remember anything about it....

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>>8797207
Yeah, nothing much in there. Luthia's blowbang is servicable, but the rest is forgettable indeed.

anyone get the full hd? worth getting?

>>8798134
I don't have it, but give some days before it gets uploaded in Nyaa. I think that considering the official English releases are censored so... one could make the definitive release by inserting the English script and UI buttons to the HD release.

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http://www.waffle1999.com/game/112edens02hd/
we are so back bros

Best ER scene?
ER2 kinda gave me an earfucking fetish, so i liked all those Lutia scenes.

>>8799155
I like the slug and plant scenes from 1 and the sandworm scene in 2

>>8803163
what's this? for ER3? that would be amazing.

>>8803726
No... it seems to be something completely random.
The game engine used does support animations like that though.
I'd be pretty nice though if they were more consistent with their feature set in their games, because... things like the resolution don't even work for me to this day.

ER1.... is just so boring compared to 2.

>>8811491
I still think that the main characters are good, just that their scenarios are just really lame in comparison. If only we could get a proper TL job uncensored job by anybody...

>>8788398

Forgot to update the thread with any progress update it with the new viewer for a while. Here I strictly just recorded the main menu because I was trying to integrate the greet lines with the animated sprites, because it's a PITA.

Video: https://buzzheavier.com/d0ezdbj6sjkc

When all of the features (except the scenes themselves are done), I'll release the viewer.
As always, my Discord Waffle-related server is where I post updates more often (and where the original viewer's current maintainer posts the updates for the viewer).

>>8812697
based, thanks for the update

>>8788398
Why was I kicked from the Discord server?

>>8814427
Oh, I do have a from time to time execute the built-in prune functionality offered by Discord.

A lot of users just join with dummy accounts and probably Discord flagged your account as an inactive account and you got hit by accident.

If that was the case, just join back, I just wish I could see what users are flagged that way, although most of the time it does its intended job and kicks the accounts used only once.
As to why I do it, simple, I don't like having dummy accounts sitting there causing issues because they can be compromised easily and just send one of those "MrBeast crypto scams" to the server, which has happened already....

>>8814631
It was a security measure after all. I understand now.
It might be because I was too busy and hadn’t opened
Discord for a while, but I’m relieved to know that I didn’t cause any trouble for you guys.
I might get kicked again, but I’ll give joining the server another shot.
Thank you for the reply.

Random rant but one of the things that I find frustrating about grenze lately is all the human rape. I really enjoyed eden's ritter because its a high-quality, dark tentacle/monster fetish focused game. Id been playing grenze for a while and I loved pulling for new characters and getting hot tentacle or plant or slugs or orcs scenes cause so few games lean into these fetishes. But so many of the new CGs and events are humans raping the girls. Every porn gacha has normal rape, why would I pick this one if thats what your gonna offer me?

>>8817925
>Every gacha has rape

How innocent of you....
Barely none have actual rape, just super vanilla stuff. As a firm proponent of the anti-tentacle act, I still don't quite understand the lack of monsters (orcs basically) as of lately...

Having humans raping them I think it's not bad at all, because at the end of the day, we still get good Waffle art, unless we get one of the horrendous artists that I don't know how they even got hired in the first place...
Some characters like the cow one are just plain awful, it feels like I am watching an AI generated version of a bad drawing.

>>8817925
you know what I do like the human rape, but only if it actually has something cool if it's just normal gangrape, who cares. ER2 had some good some bad. The more guro-expression ones with the nipple fucking and the ear pick irrumatio was really good.

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>>8818093
>>8818561
don't get me wrong, the eden ritter can have some hot human on human stuff, I'm just complaining about the gacha's lack of variety lately. The last 5 characters released all have at least one of their sex scenes as human x human stuff and it seems kind of silly considered the series has like 20 monsters to pick from.

>>8818568
oh yeah I completely agree. didn't play the gacha but that sucks. ER is known for its tentacle/monster fucking aspect idk what they were thinking probably just cheaper to draw that

>>8818568
*picks up nerd glasses*

Excuse me, but one of the latest characters had a goblin-only scene.

>>8819548
really hope you arent talking about the horse girl...

>>8819790

Bingo.

Honestly, I don't find that scene bad, I somewhat find it... interesting? Not the best nor the worst, in fact it's the best from the latest characters, but mostly because the artist that did it is a Waffle mainstay, so the drawing and colouring is ten time better than the rest.

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Anyone have all the DLCs for Eden's ritter chapter 2?

>>8821257

I have some of them but they are uncompressed, so I kinda don't know what files are.
Regardless, do you think that you can wait until the end of next month? The re-release will include out of the box all of the DLCs.

If you are that impatient I can help you out though.


On another note, I am currently working on the viewer. The only thing left to do before release the public beta is making the UI buttons have some sounds and animations. Once that's done, I'll release it, so you can have some appetizer before working on implementing the scenes themselves, which is going to be a monumental task in itself.

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>>8821257
Unlike chapter 1, chapter 2 has only one DLC. It's different from its older siblings too, as it's accessed from the menu of chapter 2 instead of having in own exe.

>>8821309
>I kinda don't know what files are
sys_1.pak is all that is needed for playing the alternate scenario. Should be located inside er2_ss.

The DLC also came with a bunch of character pics and a pdf artbook, if i recall right. Past me must have tought those weren't worth keeping around because he threw away most of it.

>>8821354
You are getting confused Waffle DLCs with their standalone expansions offered as unique games, like the Gaiden releases and the latest Waffle game about the JKs.

Regardless, the game has multiple DLCs, and there is one I am missing, but it's bad and not worth the trouble.

Here you have the link: https://buzzheavier.com/0eyfl7pw1903

Again, like I have said before, I prefer to have my files unpacked because I like to tinker with the games. Thankfully, Waffle didn't choose violence unlike most companies, so it accepts the files uncompressed no problem. If you want to convert each folder to .pak, just use any NekoSDK tool on GitHub that creates .pak files.

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>>8821359
Oof. You're right, i did. Big brain fart. For some reason i thought that >>8821257 was asking for chpt 2 gaiden specificaly. He wasn't. All the confusion stem from there. What i meant was "Unlike chapter 2, chapter 2 gaiden has only one DLC. It's different from its older siblings too, as it's accessed from the menu of gaiden instead of having its own exe." but it's not what anon asked so disregard evething i said in >>8821354

>>8821384
So do you need the files for the Gaiden DLC or not? I think that I have them... but I'm not 100% sure about that.

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>>8824116
this girl opened the milf floodgate

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>>8821401
I have it already, but thanks for asking.

>>8754794
>>8754978
Rewriting the other guy's post to expose the hidden parts:

A lesbian kingdom(ER1)/shady lesbian empire(ER2) is threatened by the patriarchy. Those can be internal or external, and range from secret cults of lesbian correction practitioners, invading armies of patriarchal dicks, to cataclysm rank mythical monsters of total lesbo-pussy destruction. "Fortunately", the lesbian princess(ER1)/lesbian empress(ER2) has access to a source of cheat level power (implied to be the player if i remember that right) that grants her big futa powa transformation(their dick is the good kind and is only used to make love unlike the evil guys) and quasi immortality. But that mojo has a price. It do be making them do the unthinkable: crave the evil guys's disgusting dicks. It's so dire that even extreme pain gets converted into pleasure. Take note that it is particularly dangerous in battle because taking a dick beating means getting overwhelmed by waves of powerful horror and orgasms, which in turn leaves our pseudo-magical girl even more vulnerable to the next dick beating. That's the maso pig cycle, and at that point immortality starts to become a curse.
Lesbo-Political intrigue, lesbo-betrayal, power of lesbo-ship, lesbian love(Oh really?!), corruption and redemption(punishment for the evil patriarchy), that's the sort of stuff you can expect. Also, no male protagonist, ughh, those horrible things. Main lesbian girl and her lesbian deuteragonist run the show beating the evil dicks.

>how are the girls ending up in rape scenarios and such?
Its all porn on defeat, if you lose you get porn, if you win you get no porn (unless beating evil dicks turns you on).

>>8754794
The gacha game story is that you're an alchemist that finds an ancient artifact with the power to summon eden's ritter from other worlds to fight at your command. I think others have talked about the political stuff and the eden's ritter, but basically think medieval sailor scouts that all have some type of uncontrollable orgasm inducing fetish in exchange for getting magical powers.

The alchemist gets this artifact which can summon edens ritter to fight at his command, which makes him insanely powerful. You use your knowledge and abilities to navigate the political world, rubbing shoulders with nobles (such as the girls from the VNs) in the hopes of finding a cure for your sick, crippled little sister. Curing your sister is the primary motivation for everything the character does initially (your character is an open Siscon). As the story goes on they open up more and become a little more kind towards the others and you have your own harem of lovable idiots that makeup the maincast.

There's also a separate timeline called 'Dark Side' run as special events. In this timeline your character is evil but is still trying to cure his little sister. In this timeline her sickness is worse, shes fully mute, and its implied the main girl the you summon in the original timeline died early causing your character to become much more cold and cunning. Rape in this timeline is canon. Sometimes the monsters get to girls, sometimes your character plays a helping hand in making it happen. It's a more sinister look at the game world where usually you work with the good guys (they dont realize your evil) to take on bigger bads.

Each gacha character has 1-2 rape stories. These are "what-if" stories that are seperate realities from the main timelines. Can range from anything as small as girls being so addicted to sex they willingly become the town cum dumpster, to living as breeding stock for tentacles forever, to literally being murdered or fucked to death.

>>8826289
To add further to his point, it's basically an excuse to put these characters in sexual scenes.

Do keep in mind that at the end, is a Waffle game, the plot is there to help fuel the scenes themselves, not the opposite.

In fact with ER2, the game is super linear, and when you get a branching path, is one of those """"branching paths"""". The ones where one keeps the plot following, and the other has a h-scene following a game over. One could say that this game works like EDG, because almost all scenes come from these what-ifs (I say almost because the main games do have unavoidable h-scenes).


On a different subject, can somebodt tell me why the game now has a different splash screen? When I started working on my viewer I noticed this splash screen already on the game files, so I pressume that it was used already at some point. Do they use it for specific circumstances or what it is going on?

>>8826289
nothing sucks the soul out of a setting like making the world revolve around a gacha self insert

>>8826446
Never bothered me because hes not a typical gacha protagonist. Turns out when your fanbase wants to see rape and bad ends you can make the self-insert a degeneate, manipulative, ass and it's fine because you don't need to make every girl he meets instantly fall in love with him.