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Honey Select 2 latest version: HoneySelect2 DX BetterRepack R16
>https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/4166511
AI Shoujo latest version: AI-Shoujo / AI-Girl BetterRepack R15
>https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860060
HS2 Guide:
>https://betterpaste.me/?ee94cdd197839c01#76xBHcWeyoqTA6WivhD6FDueTCbu 6kfY3Gry3ZZ2XM9i
AIS Guide:
>https://betterpaste.me/?0b7cdfdf9332a549#J3vG7Lnzr3xyXreXqqXgFge6weJd vpihewzaJjqu9V9w
Latest Patch/Updates
>http://www.illusion.jp/preview/honey2_dx/download.php
Update patches. Note: updating from a non-DX version to a DX version is not possible
>https://dl.betterrepack.com/BetterRepackUpdate/HoneySelect%202%20DX/U PDATE/
VR Support:
>http://www.illusion.jp/preview/honey2_dx/download_vr.php
Unofficial VR Mod:
>https://github.com/OrangeSpork/HS2VR
AI-Syoujyo CharaFile Web Editor
>https://syoujyo.neocities.org/
HS2PNGInfo - Card modlist checker:
>https://yuki-portal.com/uploader/honeyselect2/mod/%e3%81%9d%e3%81%ae% e4%bb%96/60024/
Discord:
>https://discord.gg/illusionsoft
Cards:
>https://illusioncards.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=honey _select_2
>https://db.bepis.io/aishoujo
>https://yuki-portal.com/uploader/honeyselect2/
>https://aigirl.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
>https://kenzato.uk/booru/explore
*Please be patient with the slow access speed.
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[Wikis]
Honey Select 2
>wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=Honey_Select_2
AI Shoujo
>http://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=AI_Syoujyo
[Mod Collection]
>https://sideload.betterrepack.com/download/AISHS2/
[F.A.Q.] 1/2
>What is Honey Select 2?
A super simple love hotel simulator where you create your own girls and can choose to have sex with them in various settings.
>What is AI Shoujo/AI Girl?
A sandbox game where you and a bunch of girls are stranded on an island. You can start relationships with the girls and build your own home.
>What is StudioNEO?
A bundled component of most Illusion games, it allows you to create custom scenes by posing characters, props and other objects. This is what all the nice pictures are made with.
>Do Honey Select 1 cards work with HS2?
No, you'll need to remake them.
>Do AI Shoujo cards work with HS2?
Yes, and vice versa. You'll need to change their personalities, however.
>How does HS2 differ from HS1?
Newer game with better models and mod support.
>I'm new to the studio, where do I start?
https://f95zone.to/threads/illusion-hs2-studio-neo-chara-maker-help-gu ides-thread.66252/
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>How can I change dick size?
Advanced Bonemod settings, here's a detailed list of bone names:
>https://betterpaste.me/?14286297a731ab43#4LAzfYnuymh5Eq2ce6v5zj4gGbQh FxwK6KZp1dM9LKGb
>Do I need to download the 50GB mod zip?
No, optional studio mods. Check contents and download specific mods here:
https://sideload.betterrepack.com/download/AISHS2/
>How do I do XYZ in the main game?
Check the wikis.
>DHH or GraphicsMod?
DHH is simpler, GraphicsMod is more robust. You'll need GM if you want to make use of Hanmen or others' shaders.
>is [TM] Open Jackets not included with the modpack? it's saying it's missing.
https://sideload.betterrepack.com/download/AISHS2/Sideloader%20Modpack %20-%20Bleeding%20Edge/KnownProblem s/TM/
>If you saw any clothes that are broken (stretched into the ground) you probably were missing this plugin.
ModBoneImplantor
https://github.com/IllusionMods/ModBoneImplantor
>Other questions
Check the wikis first, then ask.
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hey guys, after seeing a certain girl on a thread on /gif/, i fell in love
i wanted to try and recreate her in HS2, but since she reminded me a lot of jill from va11halla, i decided to give her jill's hair and eyes.
what do you guys think?
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To the bakunyū lovers: new to the game and I’m happy with the sizes I can make on repack R16, I wonder if it has all the breast morphs or if there are extra morphs somewhere else that may give me even more control.
TL;DR
does the HoneySelect2 DX BetterRepack R16 have all the breast morphs I need to make the bloated and large upper chest like in the image?
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>>8786120
The main advantage of AI Shoujo over HS2 is it gives more interaction options and dialogue with your girls. The building survival gameplay is clunky and rudimentary so it's not really worth it for that part. If you have the hard drive space it can be a fun little diversion but HS2 is better overall for the sex.
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so i was here about a week ago asking about updating my repack which is uhhhhhh
13 version out of date
i was told to just do a fresh reinstall but im not sure if i even have a back up of the game
there IS a "vanillfy the game" .bat that i assumes just sets the game back to the default, would that work as well?
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>>8789554
If you got the full version of repack 16 then everything contained within there should be working already. Your folder with repack 3.1 is basically your backup now. The main things to copy paste over would be the userdata folder (which has your character cards, outfits, and scene data) and maybe unique mods you got that aren't included in the repack.
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Would someone be able to calculate the check sums for these files from the mega version of HS2DX R16?
It took me almost all day to download these, and now one of the files seems to be corrupted (running 7z to verify tells me that there is some error, but it does not tell me in which of the files)
https://mega
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>>8789944
>never infected with shills
Nice. Can I post Koikatsu studio questions here? I don't want to use the 8 chan kkg, it's nothing but shills circle jerking. Their mods actively deletes posts criticizing shilling.
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I know there's the illusion booru for cards, but I was wondering if anyone ever made Shura Kirigakure from Blue Exorcist for Honey Select 2, I saw a few cards for her in the original honey select but I have a hard time believing she's been so overlooked.
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>>8790546
Oh, so you are the same anon that asked if someone made a kabedon scene in Koikatsu using Prisma Ilya characters, we said that for the most part people here only do OC content and directed you to KK.now.cc for that kind of content, then went on a weird rant about how OC fags won and started being weirdly passive aggresive just because we didn't spoon-feed you what you wanted.
Sorry for bringing shit from a thread that is not even here in this fucking chan, I just want to give context to what he wants and how he was behaving when doing his request.
I will just leave it at that, mostly because being one of those anons that likes doing OC stuff puts me in "the group", even if I don't really have a pixiv or shared my socials beyond a mega or pcloud where you can find most of my stuff, so I'm not going to be able to provide unbiased information.
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Has anybody here tried to use roleplay-trained AI (like character.ai) to chat with your HS characters?
I used to imagine a story involving my characters and I when I played HS.
You think AI could enhance that experience?
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>weirdly passive aggresive
Nah, the weirdly passive aggressive part is when YOU directed me out of the thread, to that now.cc, while saying "most people here make content with their own OCs". My only rant is only 1980386, and for a good reason, it's not the thread that I expected. The next are just replies to the ones that disagrees and agrees.
But the mods deleted my posts at the end. Making it look like I have nothing to say, that I lost the argument. And there's a chance that that mod is also you.
You're the one who made that thread if I remember correctly. And if you're also here, then you're probably deep into this. You're part of ScrewThisNoise?
Also, I saved my last post that got deleted. Never expect to use it at all. I wasn't trolling. Just concern, and you know that. But don't worry. I'll never go back to your thread.
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I really liked this hair (mainly the back) that I used in HS1. I've been in HS2 for fucking years now and I have yet to find something similar. any suggestions? The flayed ones in HS2 don't have enough volume even if I mess with the mesh axis
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>>8795848
https://yuki-portal.com/uploader/honeyselect2/charadatacate/chara_usem od/166599/
This is a character card that has been further scaled down by 0.55 times in the studio.
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Anybody got this card? I have a catbox link for it but it 404s for me. Doubt anyone who was browsing these thread when an anon posted is still here, but it's worth a shot
https://files.catbox.moe/8tqmwa.png
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/6578819/#q6606614
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>>8783135
Anon...if you have mods installed, set Leg Offset to 105-111 and change her face to have a Paint Basic Black Dot set under nose + face skin set to max white and you've got a Clown Goddess.
>t. Still Working on My Carnie Harem
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https://gofile.io/d/YARnuH
And get these updates: https://github.com/IllusionMods/BepisPlugins/releases/tag/r21.1.2 and https://github.com/IllusionMods/Ill usionModdingAPI/releases/tag/v1.45. 1
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>>8808908
Got to mess with ABMX offsets to shorten/lengthen the spine and other limbs as desired - my personal advice is to actually fuck with the sliders to get the desired leg length and then use ABMX to adjust the arms and spine as using ABMX to adjust the legs leads to having to adjust for all the floating/clipping it'll cause with the ground and such
>>8808988
I'd coin it to Koi and Artificial Academy both leaning on the anime stylization so correct proportioning isn't as noticable/looked for
This is compared to AI/HS having a semi-realistic style/faces while still having blatantly anime proportions which then makes all the proportion issues all the more noticable
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>>8813614
Long time no see, bro.
Even now that the UB thread is gone, I'm still making ugly bastard images.
But since uploading UB images isn't encouraged in the HS2 General thread,
I'm holding back on uploads too, so as not to ruin the thread's good vibe.
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>>8814559
I mean I can try it now with an old VR headset and as much as I love maingame (weird, I know) and like seeing my wife in VR, the fucking control scheme is so fucking atrocious that it's actually hard to have a wank to it. Like, the menu summon and A/B button flow is literally worse than some shovelware VR games on steam. And I am pretty sure it's already the improved plugin version?
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>>8814671
Godspeed to him, I look forward to it. Unlike in game now where my head is pretty much locked to the maingame pose and I can barely look forward or backward at will, and selecting a new pose takes 2 business days and my boner has probably subsided.
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Hi all, I was wondering if there were any tips/base measurements I should use for my default card I use to then go make each unique card. Is there anything I should change to make the process smoother? Here's what I have thus far, which is already a hodge podge of measurements I liked. Again, any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
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>>8823558
its not there for some reason
its part of the reason i asked if it got removed.
i was many versions behind so i just saved my cards and saves and downladed the latest repack and its gone now
is it something included but i have to manually install it?
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Hey mother fuckers I've been trying out some AU shoujo's studio recently after getting completely disappointed about the game's length a few months back and just have a few questions.
There's no way to move your residential island from singleplayer into studio, is there? I started to build in hope that I'd be able to do it but so far it seems like there's no way to do it making the residential island kinda useless imo.
Also is there a site where I could get studio assets like maps and background? I know that there's bepis for cards/scenes but haven't found any other site with good stuff.
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>>8792711
It's animation software that became the most popular so has the most assets available. It's unlikely it will be replaced unless a new program has AI automation for things like converting a regular image into a character model. Even in that imagined scenario it is probably easier to make it do this in HS.
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>>8826946
Just tried to update and replaced it with the graphics plugin lite v2.2.3 from hanmen. Now there's no F5 graphics plugin despite launching through initsettings and making sure graphicsmod is ticked, and it's also ticked in kkmanager plugin list. It's not in F1 list either. Fuck think I need to revert
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>>8826946
I am absolutely retarded. Got the plugin off of japanese yuki portal instead, works and updated now.
The Plugin is updated, with new UI. I've changed the cubemap path once again too since it reset, and the cubemaps show up. I can click them, and it either says no cubemap selected even after clicking, or just loading cubemap.
Upon restarting now the plugin is blank, kek.
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>>8826975
Okay. I've got it. I made a new folder, copied all the maps into it, didn't work. Exit, deleted them all, copied only one at random. Booted it up, selectable and loads and I can actually see a fucking skybox for the first time.
Conclusion, must have been a corrupted one crashing the plugin. Thanks again >>8826946
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Hi Anons,
I recently downloaded the repack and right now im using the Base Game animations and the Character creator.
Getting to figure Out what all the mods can and cant do will probably be the next step.
So far I hesitated from downloading the neo Studio cuz it Takes Up a Lot of disc storage.
Now i got some question regarding (new) animations
On rule34video I saw some content in the honey select 2 categorie with more degenerate content Like beasts or more Character orgies Like 3on2.
Is it possible to import animations made by other people and Put your own characters in it?
Is it bound to Maps Like with the VIP rooms only having their own Special animations?
Or would I have to handcraft everything Special myself in the Studio?
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>>8827280
Yes you can import animations people made in studio and replace the characters with your own. Check out the sites in the OP for scene images. They work similar to character cards where the png file has metadata. Stick them in the userdata/studio/scene folder and they'll show up when you open studio. You will likely have to make adjustments depending on how different your characters are from the ones in a scene but it's easier than starting from scratch if you're just starting out. You can get fancier once you figure out how studio works.
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so i have the MMD addons from the repack installed and NONE of em come with a readme or anything like that so i have no idea howt to even bring up the menu for them
anyone knw how to get the MMD stuff to work in studio?
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>>8829275
The big optional studio pack might have some included. Unfortunately you're probably going to have to do some searching for individual mods since as far as I know there isn't really any centralized place to search after the big discord server got wiped and started over. I think [ailegend] and [sjjpl] had some animal related mods. You can also find scenes with what you want and then track down mods when you load the scene and see the names of the missing mods pop up.
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I'm trying to find a decent replacement for pornified Skyrim, and I'm wondering if one of these games, or one of the other Illusion ones would be good for that.
Basically, something I can jump right into, pluck out some characters I've designed, and put them in a number of different scenarios.
Some key things I'm after, through mods potentially, are a POV camera option, compatible animations for lolis and shotas, multi-person animation sets, and lots of creature fucking. Dogs, Horses, Werewolves, Demons, Tentacle Monster, hopefully even some less popular ones like foxes, bears, or beholders.
Koikatsu might also be right for me, but I've had some trouble getting that game working right.
I'm on Linux, and this is a niche japanese game, so the difficulty of getting it to work goes up exponentially.
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ok this one is kinda stupid
I made version of the Scooby Doo Gage for some posing stuff (also they're all women)
but im missing a Scooby Doo
does any one know where i can get a good great dane item for Studio? or even a good approximate Male character?
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>>8837338
boop (the one that lets your cursor touch and bounce) sort of does that, but not reliably. Maybe there is another option I am unaware of.
>studio
Oh I think in advanced bones there is a gravity setting, or just advanced collision
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If you haven't already, update your Skin Overlay plugin to at least version 6.2
The latest Repack only has 6.1.x and the plugin itself is actually on 7.1.2
It adds the very nice ability to directly modify the ColorMasks of "True" type shaders
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I know this isn't an HS1 thread, but I don't think anyone would answer a thread for that and I don't want to bump an actual topic off the board.
I just have a question about GPU Instancing in SB3Utility, is it worth enabling that on all materials for each file that I use the most?
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HS1 mods allowed me to simulate female-on-female intercourse, but HS2 only gives me a (sad) selection of lesbian options. I installed mods and tried the "Replace Default Male Character" option with several adjusted cards... Every time, it loads female clothing meshes onto a male...my Hero character is an ugly tranny with a strapon and I hate it. Haven't spent a lot of time in Studio Neo, but is there a way to have a female Hero as the main player?? All of these gameplay options are wasted on just a male MC and I hate having to look at male bodies in my hentai fantasy game. Any tips? Or should I just change my expectations by drinking until the Hero looks feminine???
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I finally installed this game after my previous SSD failed and I lost all my stuff. I installed the hanmen graphics plugin from the F95 thread and the character creator works fine, when I try to open the lobby it looks like this though. What did I do wrong?
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>>8852816
Do you have a Launcher application? You might be able to disable Hanmen shaders and see if that is the source of your problem. I don't really use them because I had different issues (butt geometry locked to a spot in space an infinite distance away). I'm just running vanilla mods for now like sliders and DHH for graphics. Posing and screenshotting your Studio Neo scenes is about the best that this game is meant for, aside from the VR experience (which is awesome).
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Games such as hs2, with a very complete character editor, show just how wildly different men's tastes can be. A man's dream looks like another man's nightmare.
Some of the stuff you guys posted look deformed and inhuman lol, with absolutely monstrous tits and hips. I guess I'm vanilla, since I only like characters that have realistic proportions
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So there are like hundreds of poses in studio uner vible or whatever, with no preview pics to tell what each one is. Is the only way to get previews on them to go through one by one and taking your own preview pic? There's gotta be a smarter way?
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>>8866071
When you threw the condom in the trash, she apologized for teasing you and started begging you not to take her virginity.
Should you forgive her, or should you give her her just deserts?
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>>8865829
Here's something I put together. Initially for this I was thinking of a shy student and teacher scenario but then thought about how I'd rework it with a teasing element instead.
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I got the chink VR glasses. Never going back to meta, ever. The quest used to work back when I bought it, then repeated updates made it more and more unusable.
Step by step it wouldn't startup and connect without internet, updates make it forget everything, keeps losing the boundary and settings, now we're there that the video player app wouldn't play videos without internet. I hope they go bankrupt...
The new one just works no hassle. Of course I'm going to make sure it never sees internet, I don't want to fall into an update trap again, and I don't want Xi to watch me fap.
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Here's a mix of odd cards and mods I've found. I hear this backrooms thing is pretty popular now.
>>8870767
Yeah pretty crazy at this rate we might make it to six months.
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Hello
Some years ago I downloaded honey select 1 on an old PC which isn't alive anymore, I was checking how to get it and saw there's this, checked the Steam version but for what I managed to understand, it comes highly censored, and patching it is a pain in the ass so I was wondering...
I saw the OP links and wonder if I should get it from where it says
>[Latest Game Update]
>honey2_01_plus_0814esF3_all
>honey2dx_01_plus_0115hA5HG_all
if so, which one would it be, also, sadly I'm not smart enough to know the steps to follow from the guide link.
What I want to do is to download Marie rose from DOA, and play with her, but I don't want her looking like she took an oil bath, is this possible?
Image is an old screenshot from honey select 1 (which I also don't know how to install).
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>>8874905
well... after some hours I got the
[ScrewThisNoise][Illusion] HoneySelect 2 DX (ハニーセレクト2 DX) BetterRepack R16
from the torrent, unzipped it and I have no idea what to do. In the guide are a lot of english patches and stuff, should I just download every one of them and put them somewhere inside the folder?
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>>8874964
well... took a while to load but it seems to be already translated, I guess I just need to know how to add cards now, I'll check if I missed something in the guide.
I tried to just unzip this on the game folder https://www.patreon.com/posts/marie-rose-for-60333301?l=es , I saw her on the assignation menu, but if I try to change her hairstyle, she looks really ugly (no fringes and kind of bald). I didn't add the mods which it says I should have,nor know if they are already installed, now know how to add them or where to get them.
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>>8874979
The big zip file is the entire game which is functional once unzipped and comes loaded with a lot of mods and patches already so don't mess around too much with it until you understand more about how to install and replace plugins and mods. Some of the info in those guides and update links are a bit dated at this point so be warned. HS2 modding structure is mostly simple to add/remove additional mods. By default the major mods that add outfits, maps, and other objects are in the mods folder.
For that Marie Rose mod you linked, note that the zip file has a mods and userdata folder. You simply drop those into your main HS2 folder and the mods and card should be added. You can put them into subfolders for more organization once you understand the basics. UserData/chara/female is where your female cards are stored. Usually a quick google search is enough to find the missing mods so make a note of the name and possible modder name to search. Also note that if you boot the game from InitSetting.exe you have a couple more settings you can mess around with.
The discord server linked in OP is probably the biggest "main" English speaking discord and it has a lot of mods and other info linked. I recommend joining at least for the ease of having a lot of stuff in one convenient place. You can just lurk and get what you need. There was a fairly recent incident that resulted in the server getting wiped clean but it's recovered.
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Thank you for this info, it was quite useful. I could get her as a character after pasting the files in the zip right there, but for whatever reason I can't find this "UserData" folder there.
For now, the normal "Marie Rose" hairstyle actually fit her, so I just changed that and her clothes. I guess I'll keep trying until I realize how the saving of costumes work.
I don't think I'll create a discord account to join (I tried that cesspool long ago and didn't really like it) but thank you for the info too.
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>>8875473
The userdata folder should be in the main folder. That's where all your personalized stuff will be saved so definitely figure out where it is and how it works. It should be something like in this image. The discord server is useful but I feel you on not wanting to join. Just keep it in mind in case other resources and sites aren't enough for you anymore. For now just tinkering with the game is plenty.
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>>8875528
thanks again for the info, suddenly I found the UserData folder (not sure if it wasn't there before I saved some girls in the game). For now I just play with the marie rose one, and some other I made while experimenting the character creation. Not sure what this "studio" thing is yet, but I'll check out the cards (wanna check which girls I find in the OP cards site).
Can you make the girls just make some poses in the game for screenshots, or is that from another game?
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>>8875699
Studio is the posing software that's included with the game. You can boot it up through StudioNEOV2.exe or through InitSetting.exe. Starting it up through InitSetting is recommended since that lets you activate the additional graphics plugin settings (graphicsmod or dhh). Most of the images you see from the game are made with Studio.
>>8875728
If it's the repack then yeah it should run from the directory rather than needing to install. Only thing to keep in mind is it's recommended to put it somewhere where the file path isn't too long since that can cause more lag.
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is there a good resource to learn out to make stuff like this in HS2?
https://www.iwara.tv/video/1QM7Zqd4mu6IAi/hs2
i found his stuff and it opened my eyes and now i wanna try but i dont know the first thing about it
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Weird things are going on at yuki portal in the OP links. It's currently being spammed by some sort of bot posting a bunch of AI generated ads in various languages. It seems to have gone into overdrive and now 150+ pages are completely overrun with this slop spam. The numbers just keep going up as if there's no limit or cooldown on posting. Also it feels like no one's moderating because this started up a couple days ago but looks like it went into warp speed today. I'm going to be annoyed if this makes the site go down since a lot of good stuff shows up on there.
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>>8876595
>and then just drag them down
Not sure if this is what you meant, but I checked the "show axis" option and just moved the arrow. It seems to have worked, thank you.
>>8876410
>Starting it up through InitSetting is recommended since that lets you activate the additional graphics plugin
does this also apply to the base game? I just open it from the HoneySelect2.exe.
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I'm coming from Koikatsu Sunshine, and found HS2 studio comparatively clunky. I used Better Repack and Sideloader pack for both. I had some issues like the clothing box being very small (also a KKS issue to be fair), not being able to filter out certain items like clothes in the character maker, and what seemed to be more limited FK/IK movement than KKS, not having sliders for certain things like foot size (possible I missed but I don't think so). Is this just the state of the game even with mods, or can anyone recommend how to improve the character maker/studio experience?
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Any advice on not making my models look like they have super soft baby faces? I'm trying different skins but they're all like hyper soft.
Similarly, though I've had better luck, any advice on making models look less asian?
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>>8878739
Some of the facial options definitely can make a big difference. You could also try some head mods. I think the repack should have the DBLin western faces included which have more distinct and sharper features compared to the defaults. Small warning though, some head mods like the DBLin ones may not be fully compatible with the main game such as not properly changing facial expressions. It's not much of an issue if you're mainly using studio. Other than that just be more experimental with pushing the sliders to the extremes.
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>>8878739
Idk if that's what you mean but you can make the face look less fat by adjusting cheeks, and pick "gaunt cheeks" in wrinkles for that bony face look.
I think most faces don't look western because they are not long enough and the eye line is always lower than half of the head, you should aim for the eyes to be about in the middle. I do it by lowering the jaw height a lot, adjusting "upper height" in overall face settings and "eye vertical".
Finally, you mess with "lower depth", jaw and chin depth setings to make the profile look better, most characters I've seen have severely receding jawlines and pushing it out makes your character look much more nordic immediately.