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Post custom made 3D Hentai structured around music here. Doesn't have to be MMD, doesn't have to contain dancing motions, and not to be confused with HMVs made with already existing 3D clips. MMD clips without music that would cause a fuss in the 3D hentai general are also welcome here.
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>Videos
https://www.iwara.tv
https://fantia.jp
http://video.fc2.com
>Better Iwara browser
https://oreno3d.com/
>3D SexDance index:
https://controlc.com/b686b84a
>Anon's VR Collection
https://rentry.org/anonsvrmmd
>Anon's Iwara Search Add-on
https://github.com/Cuckdev/SemenDaemon
>How do I create it?
Check out >>>/e/mmd for technical discussions
>Why not post it to the 3D Hentai General?
The focus on music and dancing of most MMD content has sparked endless drama and thread derailings there so there was a split. So far both communities have benefited from it.
>OP Sauce: たらこ
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>>8815195
NTA but you aren't very bright
This is a (You) problem, git good at google and stop using 4chan on your phone
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it's actually insane they didn't have full offsite backups.
I mean I could understand if they got blindsided by their host like this if it had happened say 5 years ago, but with the unprecedented levels of internet censorship in the last few years, especially with regard to lolisho content, it's just wild that they didn't have a complete backup plan.
like were the admins living under a rock? pixiv, dlsite, fanza, fantia, melonbooks, toranoana, getchu, and so many others -- and more recently gelbooru and danbooru having problems with cloudflare and even fakku getting royally fucked -- certainly by 2023 at the latest it should have been completely obvious that this was very likely going to happen to them and they would need a contingency plan for when it did.
they provide an amazing service and I don't want to kick them while they're down, but man, what were they thinking.
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I miss GreeeeeENen a lot. When Twitter added the account location info, out of curiosity I checked his account. It showed no location information. But today when I checked it's been updated. Dormant accounts from before the location feature don't show any information, so I hope this means he is doing well.
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>>8815515
If you're wondering about why it shows Australia here's what the little shield icon says.
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>>8815357
you know what would be really funny? if the exact same thing happened at the new host a year from now and they still didn't have an offsite backup because
>no way could have expected the such thing happening twice in a row
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>>8815357
Like other anon said, it doesn't count if all data is on same server.
And the 1 rule is that you have a backup somewhere else than main data, but when you don't even have the main data yourself, that doesn't make it valid.
>>8815431
Even 5 years ago this would have been completely unacceptable.
>>8815461
>but that's not enough to rebuild the DB
Actually yeah it would be enough, even if a video is private, Iwara claims to actually have all the videos, and any user can see the stats of a private video, just not the video itself.
So you can build a DB out of everything.
It's actually fairly easy to scrape all that info, but I'm betting that nobody would do it and just hope Iwara won't fuck up again (They will).
Problem is that Iwara can't trust a DB made by some random person on the internet.
If you run things yourself, you know your DB isn't tampered with, but DB is basically just text, if some random anon made it, they could just mark a bunch of privated videos as public.
The only real solution, is for someone to make a public DB, not give a shit about whether something is private or not and scrape all the videos they can and make that into a public torrent.
>>8815672
I think this is very likely to happen, or some other major bullshit, because of their constant incompetence that they never even tried to fix and probably won't try to fix even when major events like this host bs happens
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>>8815703
>I think this is very likely to happen
The one upside is that now the userbase knows how incompetent they are and it's much less likely for everyone to get caught with their pants down going forward. Storage may not be cheap at the moment, but I trust some very dedicated fans to scrape everything from the second it's available to the second iwara drops the ball again.
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>>8815735
No I don't think this will change anything. We didn't learn from the PornHub purge, the E621 purge or the small purges that happen constantly on every platform.
Humans in general are coping and thinking that surely there won't be a 999999999999th time something gets taken down.
That in combination with a lot of people probably thinking like you or "someone will back it up, so I don't have to".
We should try harder to at the very least, back up things we like, and share that data with something permanent like a torrent.
So that in the event something is taken down, even if there wasn't any gigachads out there backing up the entire site, we'll have tons of small collection that basically function the same, if enough people help out.
But it would basically need its own community, like maybe a thread here on /h/ specifically for Iwara archival, where OP makes a list of torrents and people can submit their own torrents to make a collection.
But of course I'm being naive, thinking anyone would care enough to do that. Just look at the guys in last thread who claimed to have quite a lot and refused to share.
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>>8815801
VR porn videos are actually quite shit. I recommend getting a VR headset for porn games instead or regular games.
Quest 3 is absolutely amazing, at least the normal Quest 3, dunno about the downgraded 3S.
Just be aware that battery sucks fucking ass unless you strap on a powerbank which you have to do some custom shit to attach unless you're willing to pay a premium.
If it's your first time with VR, consider borrowing from someone or maybe buying a used Oculus CV1.
While it's much lower quality, it gives you a feel for VR, though it's more cumbersome to set up as it's wired and uses base stations for tracking.
And don't get discouraged if you get nauseous like so many complain about, in most cases you get used to VR and won't notice it after having used it for a while.
It really fucking sucks that it's almost impossible (at least here) to get a regular Quest 3 with less than 512GB storage, only 3S being sold with lower storage.
I have the 128GB version and it's plenty of storage unless you absolutely need to have many games installed at once (You don't).
Many games you'll actually have stored on your PC anyways and it'll be streamed over the internet so it won't take up storage on the VR headset.
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>>8815801
If you're already interested then yeah probably. Properly done VR MMD is generally a straight upgrade to normal MMD, as it suits dance videos really well. Its good for sex too but, those don't always translate as well as dance videos do so they need to be made with VR in mind.
But the biggest issue with VR MMD is there's an incredibly small amount of people making it. Which means there's a chance that even if you like it, you might not find anyone making the kind of videos you want to see. So if that's your reason for buying it, it might be a good idea to check out the people currently making it and get an idea if that's the sort of stuff you want to watch in VR.
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>>8815824
There's a decent amount of VR content in VRAnon's collection to try out but its not everything there is to see. I'll list the ones I follow, even if they aren't MMD as a lot of people use blender. You don't gotta spend money for these, I just support the ones I like
Dark Dreams VR: occasional anime/game characters, generally good and worth the like $5 for patreon since you can just get everything. We'll call this GYE(Gives You Everything)
Hentai VR: self explanatory from the name, 3d anime/game sexing GYE, there also exists Furries VR and Futa VR if thats your thing. $5 a month
Rika Mizuno: A steeper $20 a month, but really high quality dances and occasional sexing GYE
Lewd Fraggy: one of the first VR MMD content makers, has some good ones, hard to call it worth tho GYE $5 a month
Astra Lumina VR MMD: high quality dances and occasional sexing mostly vtubers, $10 a month for 2 year content access
μ(mu)_MMD: big boobs and butts, good quality dances and rarely sex, $5 a month gets everything but the chromakey and fixed POV, would be gold if it wasn't censored
Tracer3D NSFW: blender, very high quality dances and sex, steeper at $20 a month GYE
Goonduude(previously Laosdude): blender, high quality sexing at $5 a month GYE
WhyfuVR: high quality sexing, mostly hero team shooter characters atm at $6 a month GYE
VR AnimeTed: a lot of good to high quality sexing with a lot of characters. Also has AnthroVR and FemdomVR if those interest you. A steeper $20 a month GYE
AliceCry: high quality sexing with game characters and sometimes stuff like Wendy(like the restaurant mascot) at $5 a month
mmdhhk: actual high quality MMD dances at a generous $3 a month GYE
Sasaki VR180: koikatsu, one of those fuckers that deletes shit (at least the 6k or 8k high quality ones people want) after some time. multiple sex positions in each vid usually like 6~8 minutes. $5 a month
Eat Up: high quality dance and sex, has works before 2025 in a shop on patreon, $5 a month for 2025 onwards
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Eat Up: high quality dance and sex, has works before 2025 in a shop on patreon, $5 a month for 2025 onwards
AidenHet: high quality sexing gooner game characters(genshin impact, ZZZ, etc) at $8 a month GYE
スポンジ.MMD: mostly voyeur content, some POV at a low $3 a month GYE
Horny Herring Studios: Very high quality sexing of game characters at $10 a month GYE
Hentai VR499: thats right there's 2 different guys running the same-ish name, pee, rape, exhibitionism, sexing at $10 a month GYE
RoiRoiMMD: Big tit big butts mmd dances and sexing at $10 a month GYE
Rapid Banana: mostly western game character sexing at $5 a month GYE
svamp999: mostly dance and vtubers at $10 a month GYE
Cawneil: game character sexing at $5 a month GYE
ArawAraw: mostly western game charcters sexing at $12 a month GYE
nodu(previously noduSFM): high quality anime game character sexing at a low $3 a month GYE
BlobCG: pretty much like nodu, but also makes chromakey versions at $5 a month GYE
MMDPasta: locks older content behind supporting over time, vtubers sexing at $50 a month for previous 10 months(stacks over time, gives you months 10-18, 19-28, etc)
sasimicream: one of the older VR creators, has some good ones in the past. Current stuff is koikatsu at high quality cookie cutter animations, censored at $100 a month GYE but do it only once after getting everything you want from the old stuff
HoyoCinema: new to VR so very few vids, but really high quality sexing at $10 a month
snuffk VRMMD: vtubers dance and sexing at $3 a month GYE, but deletes older works for whatever reason
Blue [K]nights: anime, game, vocaloid sexing and dance at $3 a month GYE
nuttycravat: west game character sexing at $10 a month GYE
Cuddle Mocap: voice can be kinda cringe sometimes, but high quality sexing with game characters at $6 a month
A few of these don't have uploads anywhere I could find, but most of these have been uploaded by someone on like f95zone or anime sharing so you don't have to pay for most of it
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>>8816216
it's a good choice, quest 3 is a great value for the money
i have one as well and use it to watch movies and anime and shit in a virtual cinema on a large screen
make sure to try some of the best vr games
half life alyx, superhot, beat saber, batman, resident evil 4 (alyx is a PCVR game, rest of them are direct quest games)
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>>8816216
If you're into furry porn, give the old Yiffalicious a try aswell as Anthro Heat.
And as other anon said, superhot is an amazing game. I've yet to try it for VR, only ever played non VR version many many years ago, but I'd imagine VR would make it a lot better.
Beatsaber is good if you like rhythm games, personally I prefer Osu without VR over Beatsaber.
While some may think it's extremely cringe, VRChat can actually be a really fun experience, just look at Jameskii's videos.
While they are in a kinda closed group, things like that do happen in "public" too.
Pavlov VR used to be fun too, but haven't played it since early 2018
Tales of Escape was fun too, but it's really short IIRC, maybe 2 hours-ish.
Rec Room was a bit interesting and might be worth checking out.
Robo Recall is quite fun and one of the first few games I tried, along with The Climb (first one, haven't tried second one yet) which is also quite fun.
Many people have praised Boneworks, might want to give that a try.
Gorilla Tag is something I've been tempted to try and is a highly praised game.
Echo Arena is another game that was highly praised but taken down, though supposedly there are ways to still play it. I have not yet gotten around to trying it.
Enjoy your time in VR, remember to keep things charged so you don't run out in the middle of some good porn lmao.
>>8816288
Source? Their page still claims otherwise
>Ideally, we’ll be granted access to our backups
>These are still concepts we’re reviewing, and none of them are confirmed viable yet
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>>8816304
No, I'm just not a schizo troon who joins their discord, if that's where you got the info from, assuming you even got it from the owner and not some mod.
You actually incapable of citing your sources? What are you? 12 years old?
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Death to iwara bros I can't believe we losted...
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Ok I got around to actually trying out MMD VR porn on my Quest 3 for the first time using the guide from OP and holy shit the settings looks like they're trying to make me fly a commercial plane.
Is there a guide somewhere for playing VR videos on Heresphere for Quest 3? I got the SMB part down and played 1 of ミュー's videos but it looks like I'm way too close to Chloe to be hot. I'm not even sure if the video is supposed to be 360 degrees or maybe a 180 degree curve?
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>>8816819
I feel as if everything should be covered in the guide. But if I remember correctly ミュー's videos don't get automatically set properly like most do and require manual adjustment. Those adjustments will save and be used the next time you play it though.
The large majority of videos are 180, not 360, as 360 is a worthless and massive waste of bitrate for VR porn. Off the top of my head only つらら ever used it and he offers 180 versions now anyway.
ミュー's videos should look and work fine with no other changes besides setting equirectangular and side by side. If you've accidently adjusted any other settings, be sure to reset them.
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>>8816216
Finally, I can shill RJ01326526. Maybe not everybody's thing if you're not into fap hero(and it's best played with an auto masturbator anyway), but it has a VR mode and it's pretty good. Animation quality could definitely be better, but it scratches an itch for me. The demo is absolute garbage and I didn't give the game a serious look until a few months later when I just bought it anyway after once again looking for VR H-Games on dlsite out of desperation. Limiting the demo to the basic bitch stage and only 1 girl really doesn't give potential buyers a good impression. It also got DLC a month or so ago.
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Ok I got the hang of it now thanks again anons. Enjoyment of dance videos with them looking at you in the eye is significantly better than watching it on a monitor.
Although the home button only re-centers the menu of Heresphere and not the video. Is there a way to re-center the video too?
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it will probably cost twice as much as quest 3 at least while offering essentially same hardware (even be inferior in some aspects, it will only have monochrome passthrough)
it will have better base software (think iphone vs android) but that will not be worth paying twice as much for it. Basically i would only get the steam frame over quest 3 if few hundred extra bucks wasn't considered big a
deal for me.
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Anybody know why scanned and playable videos through SMB in Heresphere do not show images or image previews of scanned videos? I am using Windows 10.
>>8816884
It hasn't been a few days yet but I'm really liking dance videos that focus on looking at you in the eye. I feel like it's more effective in VR. Also is there a dedicated board for VR porn somewhere?
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I just want more VR videos with kissing.
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>>8816915
>Anybody know why scanned and playable videos through SMB in Heresphere do not show images or image previews of scanned videos?
I know its possible but I forget why it happens, I know another anon in this thread had the same problem and switched to XBVR instead of trying to figure out why.
>Also is there a dedicated board for VR porn somewhere?
No. There's a thread on /t/ for JAV torrents, that's it.
>>8816919
I want p415 to make more videos...
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>>8816913
>it will have better base software
and better, more modular physical design. SD card slot, PCIe port (presumably for color pass through camera), and high bandwidth streaming out of the box.
nothing I've seen indicates it's going to cost two times it's competition but Valve did get really unlucky announcing it with 16gb of ram just before the price went through the roof.
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A new challenger has appeared.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/139999631
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/139647125
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https://rule34video.com/video/4182644/kitou-rijicho-perverted-police-2 4-hours-i-ii-and-iii/
The one thing I really like about MMD and other Iwara stuff is the wackiness feel that they have. It's so clear that the animator is actually having fun making these videos. You rarely ever seen crazy stuff like this in other 3D videos and that is what give them their charm.
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>>8817867
That was pretty hot, first time I've seen this person's work. Are any of the newer episodes shared anywhere? I like the teacher.
The wackiness is probably from MMD starting off as a dance animation software. Then it progressed over time from stripping -> sexdance -> sex. Sex dance is already a strange concept for those not familiar with MMD. Which I think influenced the general MMD scene to explore some unusual scenarios and have dramatic motions.
Plus, being a relatively easy to use animation software makes it easier to think of a random idea and start working on it. Instead of messing around on Blender for hours before learning how to do a simple movement.
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>>8818328
>Queencard
>gets to the part about twerking on the runway
>camera focuses anywhere but the butt
>close video
>blacklist creator
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>>8818613
I would but I've deleted them from my collection and refuse to dedicate any brain power to remembering their creators.
If you can't do something as simple as focus on a twerking girl's ass during the literal twerking-dedicated portion of a song/dance, then you might as well not exist.
Pic related, the most recent video to earn my ire.
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This took over two weeks, but my Hime video is finally finished..
I hope you enjoy frens..
Hime - Iwara Emergency Stream
https://rule34video.com/video/4210734/hime-iwara-emergency-stream/
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>>8819580
If it's just a directory and not a proper scrape designed to copy Iwara DB, then it doesn't matter. And even if they did, if Iwara goes down again, they can't be using that database anyways.
So there's no irony really. Nobody could have saved Iwara if they lost the database file. Unless of course you're willing to trust random people to not have tampered with it, which is retarded.
So yeah, it serves 0 purpose
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>>8819399
Massara Blue Jeans
The one with Ran is a niconico classic
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>>8819580
You're misunderstanding what it is
The site is a blog that features MMD videos posted on other platforms.This has nothing to do with being a replacement or scrape or database or whatever. It's kinda like that anon who links new videos in the thread or xyz who posts monthly ranking videos but in site form.
In the past, a lot of the featured videos were on iwara. But since iwara has been down for a while, he's offering to promote creators who want to tell people where else they can find their work.
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>>8819586
I literally have grabbed mirrored videos from a copied description when iwara was down so I still find it useful even if it isn't a 1:1 copy of the DB. I've also used sites like that when Iwara was being slow as fuck to browse which happens often.
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VR Anon, do you know anything about Ohuen FC? They seem to be a VR content creator, but I honestly can't understand at all how the fuck their fantia works. Also, the plans are incredibly fucking expensive and they charge out the ass for back issues on top of that. You'd think this guy is the second coming of christ.
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>>8819932
>10k yen
what the fuck? you mean for one month? or for one post? no content is worth that much
However, it's a different story if that is custom content as in you sub for 10k and he makes a custom video for you each month
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>>8819805
i considered making them bigger, but i prefer this size personally, but it's a fair point
>>8819916
y-you too
>>8819794
hmm not sure if that is a good thing or not heh
>>8819769
Canon hime has white bush too, so i tried to get close to it, but the problem is that white bush on white skin is essentially invisible.. i tried doubling the pubes and all but you can still barely see them ;_;
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>>8820181
He started out with making HMVs out of bengugu's animations so to say he's inspired would be an understatement.
Since iwara's down, here's the videos that predate AFTER PARTY (and excluding the aforementioned hmvs)
https://gofile.io/d/Qgwy0j
As you can probably see, it's more about the potential of future works considering the improvement between videos.
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Is p415 and FacePlan really it when it comes to VR videos featuring kissing? p415 is the gold standard but it seems like they made like a handful of videos and disappeared, and only 2 of those have it. FacePlan has one single video(no, copy and pasting girls doesn't make it more than one video) that also scratches that itch. I've seen a few other creators try it, like MMDPasta, but the girl's face isn't anywhere close enough. There's gotta be more out there. Anywhere I should be looking besides Patreon and Fantia?
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>>8820747
>VR videos featuring kissing
This sounds dangerous.
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>>8820802
It's extremely dangerous. Its been a year since I've gotten to kiss someone and it's starting to take its toll.
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How hard would it be to revert back to trollvids so people could use the site to watch movies again instead of a broken site when the did the major upgrade 3 years ago? Haven't been able to watch videos since. Christ, has it been two years or three years? Tired of just using kemono nekohaven animeshare k-site and f95.
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>no touhou except retarded fairies
>no kantai collection
>sparse vocalize
I want to go back.
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>>8821302
if you manage ill be forever grateful
hes like the only guy who didnt have a back up somewhere i could snipe in the mean time (though MMDType87 changes his patreon Mega FUCKING WEEKLY)
hes straight up just said he gonna hold onto his nude and porn stuff til Iwara is back and its killing me
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>>8821806
>We are still working on getting the website set up. It's a lengthy process.
We can't finish it completely until our database server is delivered, but we have a lot done already.
Our new server host is much more tolerant for our kind of content and has promised that we will always have time to react to any reports they send us. Due to this, our content policy will not change very much from what it was before. However, we may still be much more aggressive with enforcing tagging policies.
More specific details on changes will be saved for when we are closer to opening the website again.
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>>8822058
yeah they may be tolerant of the content but if they get bombarded by complaints to the point that it costs more than they make, they will drop anyone like a hot boat, question is if they give enough notice and opportunity to get the data out (if Iwara still doesn't make backups lol)
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getting tired of seeing this
anyway around it or am i forced to dowload to know what video im looking at?
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>>8822509
>Fictional depictions of real people are now prohibited
So no more videos of Britney Spears? Damn.
>A new large content server arrived last week and is now fully set up
Wait, so they're actually hosting the server themselves? This is just begging for even more issues lmao.
They couldn't even keep a site up while using a host that they paid money to keep things up.
But they think they can do better, with 0 experience?
I believe we will see at least 10x more outages and videos randomly being unavailable aswell as download speeds being 1/10th of what Iwara was on average.
No way they can host an actual high speed server at home to serve thousands of people at the same time.
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>>8822552
it's called colocation and every semi-serious site does it, only the lowest tier rent servers because in the long run that's way more expensive if you expect the site to live for more than a year or two, and also you can more easily get exactly the configuration you need
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>>8822555
Why would you order drives to a datacenter? That makes no sense, it's literally a datacenter lmao.
>>8822565
I don't see why anyone would do it over just getting a host and transferring files to them.
It just makes no sense if they really have 80 or 100TB worth of content.
I am sure this is just going to add more complexity to the one poor guy that couldn't even manage to have shit not crash all the time even on a regular host.
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why don't they just buy a bunch of mini PCs and run iwara off of them
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>>8822527
Not just real porn, it's any kind of depiction of a real person, so a 3d model based off a celebrity would be banned.
Decent odds it was added because someone was fucking around with models based on real children.
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Rate my favorite sexdance mmd motions. In no particular order here are my top 10.
sugar free
heart attack
cupid by kara
whiplash
bon bon chocolat
ring my bell
wa da da
nayeon pop!
blue flame
queendom
Honorable mentions
abracadabra
mister
teddy bear
party tonight
rollin
i'm ill
up & down
number 9
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>>8819554
I made a VR version of my vid for fellow VR anons
https://www.iwara.zip/shared/p6dd24aa1-5ruiuoastld4lw8jxsoi3z24a04cnvx 402uq6t-_j-fc5oho-eut-b57d2n5xe5hik ou_ko0h07rlpdoxqx6j9056ez3fj8jns3fl 1gld8fgik52829mnp
I don't make VR videos too often, since having to render and edit stereoscopic 8k footage is a huuuge pain in the asshole (not to mention they only get 10% of traffic compared to the regular version), but since the original video is short and has a static camera it was a good fit for VR.
I hope you enjoy fellow VR frens.
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>>8822799
Of course it's more complex, but it's also vastly cheaper. When renting servers you lose more money every month the site is online. And it's really not all that complicated, unless you try to manually assemble the servers like a madman.
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>>8819651
Ran videos are also what led me into the r18mmd rabbit hole
>>8820881
The vampires, especially Flan, still get quite a bit of content. Wish there was more Sakuya though
>>8821209
I got Fate and ZZZ hitting for me at least. Unfortunately Fate seems to mostly have bad looking Koikatsu models most of the time.
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As a bakunyuu chad I don't give a single flying fuck about ancient ugly as sin mmd models and animations. As far as I'm concerned ero mmd didn't truly begin until people like furui and mm3077 ushered in the golden age.
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>>8823272
>drew
>actual cp
Pick one, it's not CP if it's drawn you fucking retard lmao.
If it was, then you could call basically any loli hentai CP because inevitably, it will look like a real person somewhere.
Basing a character off of someone real, does not make it CP and you'd be delusional to think so.
Come up with an actual valid reason like a grown adult.
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>>8823386
Where to place a comma is subjective.
My reading is fine, you literally said "drew actual cp" which is not impossible. CP is not drawn.
So what part of that am I reading incorrectly? Because I quoted you 100% accurately.
Grow up and come up with a valid reason kiddo.
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Im glad I downloaded the videos of every creator that I liked like a schizo. Helps me get through these trying times
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>>8824042
>Autumn Jelly
Whatever happened to this dude? I remember him popping off years ago dropping so many unique videos and then he just fell off the face of the earth. What's annoying is I've seen this happen a lot and when you check their Iwara profile (when it was still working) it says they last logged in a few days ago or a month back yet they haven't uploaded anything in years
I understand people have lives, but if my hobby was to make videos for other peoples viewing pleasure and I needed to take a break I'd at least say something instead of just ghosting the world
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>>8824058
In my experience, people just stopped uploading without anything explanation is pretty common (Even worse if they decide to delete their whole existence and their works with them that's why I downloaded videos of every creators I). There could many things that can be the cause but it's 90% of the time is mostly burnout and lack of interest in making mmds.
Afterall porn mmd is a "niche" community and people just come and go as they like. Like a fleeting dream, lasting but a moment.
Even though they might be gone, at the very least their works can be archived for others to enjoy.
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>>8824058
I doubt it's worth it. If you start popping off like that it means people like your stuff and you could easily build up a patreon and then do what you like full time (and in a year or so make probably more $$ than working for someone else)
So seems a shame to throw it away for an offer from someone like Melody, sure i get it, the allure of a guaranteed paycheck is strong, but you will also become a wageslave of sorts who now has to do what they assign you instead of what you want to do.
I can't imagine they will end up happier at the end of this path rather than if they remained solo.
Same thing happened to strangerMMD i think and i loved his videos.
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>>8824328
i'll make the call
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>>8824422
yeah, it majorly sucks, there were several very primising mmders she consoomed at the start of their careers after they released few great videos and then were never heard from again. Without her, some of them would probably still be making content with active fantia and shit.
I wonder of they are still working for her or if they got burnout and quit mmd all together.
I actually haven't seen any melody content, is it any good? Since she recruited several talented mmders it should be amazing right?
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>>8824496
I saw that one since it was uploaded on his profile, but that is the only one from melody i saw. Isn't most of her stuff paywalled? Is her other content similar to the strangermmd video? Since that one was pretty good.
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>>8824499
there are about 20 videos from stranger he made for melody on kemono, but i think i saved only like 3 of them, since the rest of them were kinda meh (technically-wise well done, just not very interesting to me, since they were just generic sex stuff). Seems like he worked for melody about 1.5 years based on the last work from him (end of 2022). I wonder if he burned out or got bored and quit.
Makes me wonder if in an alternate reality, where he wasn't hired by melody, he would keep making many more god tier ENF videos on iwara...
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>>8824536
yeah in the latest patron post mentioning him she mentioned she was looking for other mmd creators since stranger was on hiatus and hoping he feels better soon (and that was in 2022 so he definitely isn't coming back)
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>>8824888
paywalled content leaks will happen. the bigger you get the more often will they happen, if you can't handle that then you shouldn't be posting content online in the first place
I always found that sentiment funny
>d-don't you dare look at my content without paying first!
jeez settle down there mr. capitalist
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>>8824947
You know what's even more funny? Retards on twitter having in their bio "Do not repost or use works for AI"
Yeah that's totally gonna stop me from reposting it or using it for AI lmao.
That text scared me into being a good boy.
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>>8824970
I don't mind when people state they don't want their content reposted, since it will stop some people who do respect the artist from doing it, but threatening to close your fantia etc over it is retard special snowflake behavior.
Personally I think that if you monetize your content the main videos should be free and only extra content (bonus scenes, alt outfits etc) should be paywalled. That way the public content will work as advertisement to pull in more paid members and also people are much less likely to leak content that is just alt versions of your main content.
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>>8824974
>since it will stop some people who do respect the artist from doing it
For what reason exactly? It's literally free advertisement and an artist's artwork being posted elsewhere has 0 negative outcome. At least if we're talking about shit that's already free.
Unless of course you don't want to become known, but then you simply need to stop posting on the internet lmao
What I hate even more, is when artists spam 10 watermarks on their images, completely ruining it because they're fucking retarded.
As for monetization, I think it should be donation based. Everything is free, but if you want to support an artist, you can do so.
Art should be made because you enjoy it, not as a "job" that can easily be replaced.
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>>8825016
>For what reason exactly?
If it's paywalled content then It's understandable they don't want it reposted. I prefer the way i mentioned, but not everyone wants to do it that way obviously.
If it's public content, then being mad about people reposting it is a bit silly. If someone reposted my public videos i would be happy about it since they are doing my work for me basically, advertising my content to wider audiences. The only exception here would be if someone else was monetizing my content, or removing the watermark etc, but that rarely happens.
I don't think everything should be free as i said before, only the main content, but I think offering your paying supporters extra treats like alt outfits is a nice thing to do that shows you appreciate their support.
In an ideal world art would be done purely for run, but in this world if you can do animations for a living that's a great thing. Animating takes a lot of time, having a 50hr/week full time wagie job and then investing another 50 hours into your animating hobby is a quick recipe for a burnout.
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>>8825023
>If it's public content, then being mad about people reposting it is a bit silly
Biggest understatement of the year lmao
>I don't think everything should be free
Well yeah I do partially agree, but I think everyone having it as a subscription rather than a one time payment for permanent access, is extremely retarded, especially amongst those who hardly ever publish stuff.
There is absolutely nothing that is worth paying even 5$ a month for in the long run, even with those that post frequently, and being a subscriber for a month, unsubscribing for a few months then re-subscribing a month is retarded.
Just offer a 20$ permanent access or something.
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>>8825029
>There is absolutely nothing that is worth paying even 5$
I do agree that monthly subs for me as a consumer are subideal. Even active animators usually publish only one work per month on average, which is totally understandable, animation takes a lot of time and work. But at the same time if i want to follow 20 animators i like, that quickly adds up to $100/month for me to get 0.7 animations/day to watch.
But I am also not a fan of one-time payment and then you get access forever. Paying $10 one time and then having access for 30 years is not sustainable revenue model for the artist.
I would like it more if say i could just pick the animations i like from seeing previews and then get charged say 50 cents a pop to get pernament access to them.
Right now the way I do it is subbing for one month every few months to bulk watch the releases from the previous months. For my top favorite small artists i like to sub occasionally even if all their stuff is leaked on kemono (for big artists not so much since they make way more than i do kek)
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>>8825042
Most people are probably not gonna be around for 10 years anyways, let alone 30.
>not sustainable revenue model for the artist
Assuming they were around for that long, probably not if that's the only way for them to get money, but if they had donations on the side, it's definitely possible if you create something good enough, or maybe have options for both subscription and permanent access.
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Hard to believe it's already been a year since Iwara went down. Don't know why the owners kept acting like it'd be back after only a month or two but never actually brought it back online. In hindsight, it's no surprise Iwara's absence would cripple the MMD scene, but I never thought it would outright kill it. All those moments, lost to the sands of time. All those creators, both old and new, scattered to the winds. It's been fun, /h/, but I think it's time to let MMD go.
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>>8825096
To you maybe, but if someone else did the same, then there would definitely be quite a bit of stuff you wanted, that they deemed not worth it.
Of course if you were to back up 10%, and other anons did the same, it would be better than nothing, assuming of course it was all done in a standardized way and properly.
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>>8825101
>To you maybe, but if someone else did the same, then there would definitely be quite a bit of stuff you wanted, that they deemed not worth it.
a lot of the videos are objectively bad, not just "not to my taste" but actually shit. Like those lazy mmd slop videos that are just load model, motion, stage, press render. Or all of that KK slop that just uses stock everything so it's essentially just a gameplay recording. 99.9% of people would agree those videos are shit and have no value.
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>>8822510
i think it's just a general trend of the times, with that recent fiasco with people using twitter's AI to strip people regulators are going to crack down on making porn of real people without their consent.
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>>8825102
>99.9%
According to your opinions.
I'd call tiktok objectively dogshit, yet it has a ton of users. Same goes for many sites.
So yeah, it kinda is your taste. Many people like what you think is objectively bad.
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>>8825106
You can disagree, but the average person on the internet is retarded and have a shit taste and no sense of quality and would browse hyper compressed twitter videos daily.
Brainrot is unfortunately very real.
Also pretty sure that those 10% you think is worth backing up, many others would call objectively shit too.
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>>8825206
Oh i fucking hate that so much.
Like for example there are some creators on fantia i like, but they have say 4 years backlog of content and if i wanted to watch it i would have to pay like fucking $500, it's ridiculous
Patreon is much better in this since you can access the whole backlog for your tier right away
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>>8825235
I don't get why creators don't just put out a backlog pack at like 50-75%+ discount. Bundle 3 month's -1 year's worth of content together and put it up delayed by a year. I'd be willing to pay 3-4x months of sub fee to grab a year of old videos but 12x is ridiculous to me. As a result, I either don't buy backnumbers at all or pay for only 1 backnumber if I'm really tempted.
Maybe I wouldn't understand since I'm not a creator myself. The way I see it, discounted bundled would generate sales on old works nobody is paying full price for any more. If it gets leaked then it's unfortunate, but that can also turn into a second wave of publicity from a previous work. Current supporters I don't think would mind since they're still getting the content a full year ahead.
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>>8825444
I completely agree.
A new video game is selling for say $50, but 10 years later you can buy it on steam sale for 3 bucks.
Animated content is no different. Expecting a supported to pay say 3 years worth of full sub fees to watch all those videos up to 3 years old is ridiculous.
At most i could understand a one time payment of say $20 to get access to all the old content.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEED IWARA BACK
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