>>18324777
I’m tired of sex and masturbation. Breeding is still on the table though. Any other Anon feel the same way?

What if Spengler was just a pseud, making shit up?

>>18324777
They are slave race farmers. They will never progress

>>18324793
He was a faggot talking the big talk but when the Reich showed up he did nothing to support it. What a pussy.

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>>18324801
They mog most browns outhere.

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>>18324839
He knew nazis were retards, he warned their policies will fuck Germany up and lo and behold 10 years later you got soviet troops in what was left of Berlin.

>>18324791
Turanians are going to be the only "white" people (fair skin, clear eyes) who will still be around 200 years from now, they are migrant exporters.

I knew his was unhinged, but I didn't know it was this unhinged.

>>18324777
He did.
>I call this hypothetical future civilization the neoturanians,
Calling them Russian is fine. Most of central Asia doens't even fall in the category anyway, only the Kazakhs, and even then, it's borderline at best.
And for the record, I think you are looking at this in a very exclusivist, faustian way. Mostly by presuming that the massified structures of late western civilization are going to be longevous and that Faustian style institutions are necessary for another culture to emerge. The birthrate things is also dumb. The entirety of Western-European history prior to 1800 happened with population numbers lower than contemprary Russia's. You don't need untold millions to have a high culture.
>And more importantly they have a stable above replacement fertility rate despite being industrialized and having late-faustian institutions.
Kazakhstan is actually anonamlously ruralized as a culture.
>pace colonization if only to ensure the preservation of the species in case Earth becomes threatened by stellar phenomena.
You clearly didn't understand Spengler if you think 'existential risk' is a transcultural universal.

>>18325010
Main issue is Russia has been destroyed at every level, probably not even Spengler could predict how damaging communism was.

>>18325661
The Russian Empire was a backwards feudalistic shithole that got beaten by a barely industrialized Japan.
The Soviet Union curbstomped the Nazi war machine.
The crapitalist Russian Federation can't even beat it's poorer and weaker neighbor in 4 years.
The conclusion is clear: Communism makes you strong while crapitalism makes you weak.

>>18324777
>russian
>civilization

>>18325677
Please Google "lend-lease"

>>18325661
Spengler would most definitely laugh at your standards for being 'destroyed' so I really doubt it. Every single culture during it's Culture period had objectively abysmal quality of life and massive problems, primitive cultures are the exact same. Spengler doesn't care about 'high trust' or whatever.
Though he probably would have very interesting things to say about Communism and Russia under it. The sections on Kalashnikov and Lysenko alone would have been fascinating. Then of course you would have a section of the failure of the soviet central planning system. Stalin, WW2. All around a shame we were never going to get it.
>>18325785
It's a pre-culture technically.
>>18325825
It's impact of the soviet war machine is somewhat overstated.

>>18325677
The Soviet Union just fastened what would have become, if anything a Monarchist or non-communist reformed Russia would have yielded greater results because it wouldn't have collapsed after 69 years. Russia was well on its way to become an industrial Powerhouse, heck even during WW1 they managed to be a great threat to Germany, their early offensives in Germany devastated Germany to a large extent and were a major factor for the Nazis prioritising the Soviets to knock them out early in the war.

>>18325957
That said, you can at least intuit what he would say on these topics, in a vague way. Which you really can't do with say, the American cultures. Because he really didn't think he knew enough to comment on them with certainty.

>>18325982
>were a major factor for the Nazis prioritising the Soviets to knock them out early in the war.
>early in the war
Nigga they didn't go to war with the Soviets until ~22 months after they invaded Poland. The only people left to knock out were the Brits and the fuckery going on in Yugoslavia, North Africa and Greece.

>>18325985
Most of the info he had from burgerland was from a butthurt argentinian, US steamrolling both the nips and germs while funding soviets to compensate all the damage Stalin did to his own economy and machine would have made him see murricans not as a continuation of faustians but as its own culture. Nowadays the only cope he would have left to is murricans getting into a civil war or something like that.
As for OP, again, he used as reference the russian steppes, Moscow and Saint Petersburg are just faustian colonies suffering schizophrenia.

>>18326017
Hitlet literally launched Barbarossa because the Red Army failed against fucking Finland, the so called behemoth of Europe, the New Communist Society was forced to give up the conquest of a meme country and only got some territories because both the british and germans decided to focus in their own interests rather than keep Finland supplies.
It was for all intents and purposes the prequel to Dombass, just with more communism and less drones and like today US had to step in to save the russoid horde from their lose of face and fuckups because of literal jewish fifth-columnists and kompromats who any honest society would have hanged from a tree.

>>18326026
Anon, by the American Cultures I meant the American continent, the Mexicans and the Andeans. Not the United States.
Regardless, Quesada only wrote to him after Volume one of Decline was published. And there was more than enough literature about the U.S availiable in German at the time for him to be reasonably informed.
>have made him see murricans not as a continuation of faustians but as its own culture.
I don't believe it would. I actually think it would reinforced upon him the idea that the U.S was an extension of Faustian culture. What with the fact they steamrolled both Japan and Germany through industrial might and technological superiority as opposed to the much more brute approach of the soviets. There is nothing in the United States that would point to them not being Faustian.
>Nowadays the only cope he would have left to is murricans getting into a civil war or something like that.
I think just don't grasp what Spengler was getting at with his Cultures. No offense.
>As for OP, again, he used as reference the russian steppes, Moscow and Saint Petersburg are just faustian colonies suffering schizophrenia.
It omits all of the western steps and includes a ton of extra shit, like Southwest Inner Asia (Foundational parts of the Magian culture as parts of Persia), and Tibet (which isn't even steppe, and if anything is either primitive or its own Culture). Mongolia I think has also had its day.

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>>18324777
The next civilisation being Russian means about as much as the appolonian civilisation being Roman. In reality they each include dozen or so major nations, but in this specific example, the Slavs. Central asians have nothing to do with it, they're primitive people currently undergoing western pseudomorphosis.

I suspect we might even see a Rome-Byzantium thing happening, with the faustian empire surviving in German dominated western europe, while Russia sweeps over the slavic lands in the east of the empire on its march towards Lisbon in the same way the Caliphates swept over north africa. Hell, if we go 1:1 with byzantine history, germanics might get pushed back to jutland and scandinavia, their Urheimat.

>>18326182
>the Slavs
steppenigga please

>>18326182
Russia can't even defeat in a 1v1 shitty midget countries like Finland, Ukraine Chechnya or Afghanistan in yhe last 100 years. Its only claim to glory, which is now debunked, was defeating some parkison diseases austrian painter because Stalin got unlimited funds from a jewish cripple who told the american people "KGB is like FBI"*

>>18326182
>In reality they each include dozen or so major nations,
What counts as a nation varies from Culture to Culture so this doesn't tell you much. And I think saying a dozen or so is dumb. The Greeks had the most granular nation and state idea (the Poleis) so they had far more than a dozen important nations. Another thing is that 'nations' in this sense doesn't specifify an amount of difference. The nations of the Faustian culture were very diverse and constituted separate independent entities, but the nations of Egypt and China were all fairly similar to one another and were unified under one state.
>the Slavs.
Only the eastern ones, maybe the southern ones (plus Romania) if one is being generous. The Western slavs (and the Hungarians) are firmly within the periphery of Faustian Culture.
Btw, according to Spengler Byzantium was part of the Arabian culture.

>>18326251
>Russia can't even defeat in a 1v1 shitty midget countries like Finland
Russia did beat Finland. Finland ceded land and signed three conditional surrenders in a row.

>>18326364
>Btw, according to Spengler Byzantium was part of the Arabian culture.
You mean to say that they were both Magian. You might just as well say that Arabians are Byzantine culture, which would be more accurate in every respect.

>>18326375
Yeah.
>You might just as well say that Arabians are Byzantine culture, which would be more accurate in every respect.
As far as I understand Roman Influence in Arabia was kind of shallow. But idk. But I get what you mean.

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>>18326364
>The Western slavs (and the Hungarians) are firmly within the periphery of Faustian Culture.
Periphery yes, but not part of it. The faustian culture is a germanic one, one's feeling of being part of that culture is tied entirely to whichever germanic tribe migrated where, Visigoths, Lombards, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Prussians. Whilst yes, western and to a lesser degree southern slavs have lived under faustrian influence, so have north africans lived under roman influence, yet, by the 7th century, after the arab conquest of that country, any feeling of romanness disappears, both from within said people and from without, it was a pseudomorphosis.

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>>18326182
Russian psyche is all about proving they are true Europeans. "We are unlike primitive churkas, we are different!" Russians screech self-sabotaging their desperate attempts to make European to see them as peers.
Out of resentment Russians choose violence and state chimpout yet they are bad even at it. They hold delusion of grandiosity and dreams of conquering the world while failing to conquer 1/5 of its weak neighbour.

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>>18324777
>spergler
into the trash it goes.

>>18326704
>Periphery yes, but not part of it.
Definitely part of it, even if to a lesser extent. Poland was a staple of HRE politics, not to mention Bohemia. Slovakia was very minor but it was there. And Hungary was for its part prominent at times. Plus it gave us Liszt, and to say Liszt is somehow not Faustian is lunacy.
Though personally my Heuristic to determine whether a Nation is natively part of the Faustian culture or not is whether they actively participated in the reformation.
Poland, Bohemia, Moravia, and Hungary pass this test, and so do Spain and Italy (Pontificial repression aside, they produced a fair amount of minor protestant reformers and proto-reformers, not to mention the bulk of the counter-reformers and the Jesuits). Everyone else who just looked on with indifference can be soundly excluded. Everyone you'd expect is excluded, the croats, romanians, finns, Eastern slavs. Suprisingly so are the Irish. And the Slovaks, Slovenians, and Balts are fuzzy for me. I haven't really looked into their reformations too much.
>y, after the arab conquest of that country, any feeling of romanness disappears,
Akshually, well into the times of the kingdom of Sicily there were still romance speakers in Africa. We have record of them through Christian cemeteries. One piece of African Romance even dates to the 13th century.
They didn't just dissapear. They faded, like the pagans.

>>18326735
Ngl for a very long time I thought the guy in these memes was Guy fieri, but apparently he's like a magician?

>>18326750
Slovaks and Slovenians, Balts and Finns are just colonized people by germanics, actually.

>>18326941
Also Poles, to a much lesser extent.

>>18324777
Why would it be 'neo'-turanian. Was there an old Turanian Culture?

>>18326735
filtered. Eric Carle might be more your speed.

>>18327916
do you think central asia was empty for 1000 years?

>>18326948
>>18326941
could be the case, could also be the case that anything vaguely european is so foreign to you you automatically dismiss it as german

>>18327937
Only a few hundred, after the Mongols finished emptying it.

>>18327937
No. But it really wasn't a Culture in the Spenglerian sense, which was what I thought he meant. Unless you want to buy my pet theory that Tibet and Mongolia (plus a few odds and ends) are their own little Inner Asian high culture. But that's a work in progress, even if I would be glad to expain it to someone. And it would exclude most turks anyway.

>>18325677
>curbstomped
Yeah maybe this phrase would make sense if you're imagining the Russian without a jaw, teeth, and two missing limbs

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>>18326166
I am wondering if an andean culture could get a second wind after the passing of the current andean civilization as southern Peru and Bolivia still has enough rural population to create a new world feeling, although arguably many would call them fellaheen.
>>18328042
Tibet is the other place where alongside with the Andes you get a mountain based culture, not a civilization yet, their main issue is they are extremely inward looking.
>>18327916
Neo- in the sense it will be turanic peoples with a new world feeling, they will have pseudomorphosis but not enough to choke it like it's happening with last 300 years Russia trying to larp as an european country and failing miserably, instead what I see with these neoturanians is inheriting some of the highest tecnical achievements of faustian culture due geopolitics:
>Baykonur launch site for space tech and assorted scientific body
>Rosatom nuclear reactors and assorted scientific body
>AAF for drones, particularly due Russia need of drones
>Digital Silk road for AI and software with China propping them
I know what's the next line
>But Spengler said in Man and Technics faustian tech is going to disappear
I think he overestimated the power of pseudomorphosis, I don't think it's all going to go kaput, instead what we may get is a plateau for some centuries were most of the tech task done by the new culture/civilization will be preserving faustian tech or advances will be as slow as in, say, Battletech and mostly done by autists for fun rather than major corpos and governments putting large segments of population under stress to get ever more diminishing gains.

>>18327934
nah, I'm not interested in ideas of shizo autists.