>>18327171
Maybe it's unrelated but the zionists used to have conventions in Belgrade, on top of Geneva and other places

>>18327171
The Lusitania was also a legitimate military target. The jews started, and won, WWI.

>>18327171
>Serb terrorist kills Austrian Archduke
>Germans pressure Austria to force an unreasonable ultimatum onto Serbia, despite the fact the Serb government is cracking down on the terrorists who assassinated Franz Ferdinand
>Germany gives Austria the blank check to attack Serbia, despite knowing Russia and France will back Serbia
>Germany attacks Russia and France
>Also attacks neutral Belgium, brining Britain into the war
>After the war Germans pretend the Treaty of Versailles is unfair
*Ftfy
>>18327181
>Da joooooos!
>>>/pol/

>>18327171
The alliance between France and Russia made a European great war inevitable. Actually France was allied with the USSR in the 1930s too

>>18327196
Normie terrorist sympathiser take.

>>18327196
Germans had shown France mercy in 1871. All they had to do was not ally with Russia, but that was too high of a demand for them apparently

>>18327196
zionism is not judaism you dumb golem

>>18327196
The ultimatum was literally just a request to participate in the investigation. GTFO kike.

>>18327218
Yeah it is, kike

>>18327209
How is my post sympathising with terrorists? I'm against terrorism

>>18327215
France is a sovereign country. Who they ally with is their concern

>>18327171
>the Germans (including Austrians) respond to the attack proportionally trying to subdue the Serbian menace
They refused calls for an international investigation. The crisis was intentionally escalated by Germany.

>>18327218
>Jews living in their ancestral homeland isn't Judaism

>>18327228
The ultimatum was demanding that Serbia be occupied by Austria
>GTFO kike
I'm not Jewish, /pol/tard

>>18327239
If France allies with Russia in the current day, it will mean war as well. Alliances have consequences.
The states of Central Europe, not just Germany, are sick of France and Russia always trampling on them in their cynical power games.

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>>18327171
You get what you fucking deserve for oppressing the Serbian people.
Gavrilo Princip was a hero

>>18327243
Yes you are, and Jews are extremly relevant to history, dumbass

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The purpose of WW1 was explicitly to divide up Central Europe into Russian and French spheres of influence. The only reason this didn't happen is because the Russians jobbed so hard and then the Anglos cucked France out of the victory they wanted (thank you Glorious Britannia)

>>18327171
bump

>>18327171
The Serbs were just useful idiots being used by Petrograd intelligence to start shit and give Russia an excuse to militarize. Not much has changed actually

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>>18327241
>ancestral homeland
kek

>>18327230
then explain anti-ziomist jews
zionism is a modern creation. maybe 2 centuries old if that

>>18327196
>>Germans pressure Austria to force an unreasonable ultimatum onto Serbia
Never happened.
>the Serb government is cracking down on the terrorists who assassinated Franz Ferdinand
The complete opposite of what happened.
>>Germany gives Austria the blank check to attack Serbia, despite knowing Russia and France will back Serbia
Both the Germans and the Austrians thought that it should and could be a regional war between Serbia and Austria only.
>>Germany attacks Russia and France
After Russia started a general mobilization, showing their intent to attack Austria and Germany.
>>Also attacks neutral Belgium
Which wasn't their intent, they only wanted to pass through.
>>After the war Germans pretend the Treaty of Versailles is unfair
The Entente justified the treaty on the false premise that Germany was to blame for the war and therefore the treaty was certainly unfair.
Actually, even if you believe in that premise there's some parts of the treaty that should still be considered unfair, like that Italy was a major recipient of German reparations despite the fact that they were objectively an aggressor against the Central Powers in the war, not a victim.
There was also alot of talk about self-determination to justify the redrawn borders, a right that millions of ethnic Germans were robbed of.

>>18327247
>If France allies with Russia in the current day, it will mean war as well
No it won't
>>18327250
No I'm not

>>18327365
Yes, Jews are from Israel

>>18327502
>Never happened.
Yes it did
>The complete opposite of what happened.
No it isn't
>Both the Germans and the Austrians thought that it should and could be a regional war between Serbia and Austria only.
Both Germany and Austria knew Russia would defend Serbia
>After Russia started a general mobilization, showing their intent to attack Austria and Germany.
Russia only mobilised to defend Serbia, which happened because Germany encouraged Austria to attack Serbia
>Which wasn't their intent, they only wanted to pass through.
Sure
>The Entente justified the treaty on the false premise that Germany was to blame for the war
Germany was to blame for the war. They gave Austria the blank check, they attacked Russia/France and they brought Britain into the war by attacking Belgium
>There was also alot of talk about self-determination to justify the redrawn borders, a right that millions of ethnic Germans were robbed of.
Those Germans could've (and should've) returned to Germany

>>18327777
Gods number

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>>18327777
not really, since both genetics and history disprove your wild claim

>>18327171
Serbia agreed to hand over everyone responsible and Austria said lolno and invaded so they could conquer them anyway with Germany demanding Austria attack Serbia even quicker. The assassination was a bullshit excuse and everyone knew.

>>18327785
>Yes it did
The ultimatum was the Austrians idea, they weren't at all pressured into it, though they did seek and receive German approval.
It also wasn't that unreasonable given the context of constant and widespread anti-Austrian agitation in Serbia and the refusal to do anything about the Black Hand. The parts that would have directly violated Serbian sovereignty, which are often erroneously claimed that they would have made Serbia a puppet state, were only in there to ensure that Serbia actually followed through on the rest of it through a bit of Austrian supervision as they had already proved themselves to be a completely untrustworthy partner.
>No it isn't
The Austrians requested that the Serbs look into the assassins ties to Belgrade, especially regarding the two Serbian co-conspirators that had been named in the Austrian investigation.
The Serbs obliged with a very hasty "investigation" which quickly concluded that there were no such ties and that these two men did not even exist, but as we know now Pasic himself knew exactly who was behind it, the Black Hand led by Apis who would remain at his post as head of military intelligence until 1916.
>Both Germany and Austria knew Russia would defend Serbia
Then why did they do their utmost to NOT provoke Russia? The Austrians were initially only mobilizing against Serbia, the only enemy they wanted to fight, while the Germans did not take any preparations whatsoever before the Russian mobilization and even let everyone, including Moltke and the Kaiser, take their scheduled summer vacations so as to really show that Germany had no ill intentions.
>Russia only mobilised to defend Serbia
Atleast parts of the Russian court and cabinet only saw that as an excuse, but in any case Serbia didn't deserve a Russian intervention.
Further, France is also to blame as Poincaré had given Russia a blank cheque of their own without which Russia would never have dared, and they didn't give a fuck about Serbia.

>>18327785
>>18327865
>Sure
Yes, literally. The ultimatum they sent to Belgium was only about passing through, nothing else. They had even planned to offer French territory as a reward for compliyng, but scrapped that idea so as to not provoke the British more than need be.
>Germany was to blame
Partly, but not wholly or even mostly. See my previous post.
>Those Germans could've (and should've) returned to Germany
So you're just an anti-German retard who can't be reasoned with, good to know.

>>18327236
ESL goy hand

>>18327263
Noticing Bulgaria gain a chunk but greedy Greekoid refuses this opportunity

>>18327249
NATO bombing was justified and deserved. Good to know.

>>18327240
>The crisis was intentionally escalated by Germany.
Nope. That was Austrian and Russian.

>>18327868
>>18327196
What about Entente invasion of Greece and Persia?

>>18327215
>Germans had shown France mercy in 1871.
Bigger indemnity in % than the WW1 treaty, alos french paid it in full.

>>18328401
I believe only the post-Napoleonic indemnity was bigger, though other than the hefty indemnities both Vienna and Frankfurt were very lenient compared to Versailles so neither is comparable when you look at the big picture.

>>18328399
Persia was definitely the most deplorable invasion and occupation of the entire war. They had the highest death rate of all, mostly thanks to pillaging Entente soldiers who left starvation and disease in their wake, despite never even being a belligerent party.
In Greece they had atleast been invited by the PM, said PM did lose his job over it, but still.

>>18328482
PM is the reason Greek lost 1922 wars with Turkey, damn traitor at that.

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>>18328389
>siding with Muslim invaders against your Christian brothers
Traitors get the bullet first

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>>18327171
>the Axis of Evil (so called Entente) joins the war on the side of the nationalist extremists
>Joins the war
Lmao

>>18328456
Only a retard can call Frankfurt more lenient than Versailles when the former annexed a whole province, demanded a bigger indeminity in comparison to gdp, and wasn't forgiven halfway through. Versailles was even lenient compared to its contemporary treaties of Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Trianon and Sèvres. In fact if Versailles had been just as harsh, ww2 would not have happened. But you can count on the germoids to eternally bitch and moan

>>18328496
They were literally authoctonous, in fact the invaders in the balkans are the slavic judeochristian scum

Destruction and bombing of Serbia was the only good thing NATO ever did

>>18328496
The soldier on that pic is also a convicted war criminal btw

How come judeochristians celebrate their monsters and terrorists while muslims condemn ours?

>>18328499
>Germany, UK and Australia-Hungary form axis of euro in 1891
VGH!!!

>>18328388
This map is a mess and Russia would steamroll Europe without a strong Germany to back it up.

>>18328401
France lost 2.6% of its territory in 1871. Germany lost 13% of its territory in 1919.
This ignores the fact France was actively defeated and occupied by foreign troops while Germany democratized and signed an armistice under the misleading advice of Wilson that they would be treated to "peace without victory"

>>18328511
I count 1 German state that was entirely ceded, Alsace-Lorraine, 2 Prussian provinces that were mostly ceded, West Prussia and Posen, around half of a third province, Upper Silesia, and 4 smaller slices of other provinces, Eupen-Malmedy, Memel, Saarland, and North Schleswig, plus every single German colony. That's ALOT more than just Alsace-Lorraine.
Germany was also barred from expanding elsewhere, i.e. reunifying with the Austrians who overwhelmingly wanted to be Germans, unlike the French who were allowed to create a vast colonial empire which greatly assisted them in paying the indemnity.
On top of that there were strict limits on the German military. There was to be no air force, no tanks, no modern battleships, no submarines, no conscription, and strict limits on the size of both the navy and army. No limits were put on the French military at all.
Also, a large part of Germany was to be permanently demilitarized, again a stipulation that Frankfurt didn't include.
Sevres is irrelevant as it was replaced by the lenient Treaty of Lausanne, which was actually way too lenient as the Turks were the only Central Power who truely deserved a very punitive treaty. Saint-Germain was also not that bad if you take into account that the Austrians had no interest in claiming most of what was previously Cisleithania, but Trianon was indeed also harsh.
Versailles was MORE than good enough to prevent WW2, the only way you could believe otherwise is by ignoring what the treaty stipulated and only look at the outcome, but to use your phrasing, only a retard would do that. Again, there were severe limits on the German military. With a force of just 100k men and without an airforce or armor Germany would have been incapable of even defending itself, much less starting a war. The reason WW2 still came about was that by the mid-30s the treaty WAS NO LONGER ENFORCED. A harsher treaty would have faced the same fate.

>>18328511
>>18328570
Oh and I looked up how large the two indemnities were relative to GDP, and Versailles was around 10 TIMES AS LARGE.
250% to 25%.
Not that surprising given how one was 5 billion francs and the other 132 billion marks.
You are most likely confusing it for the indemnity payed by France after the Napoleonic Wars which actually was larger relative to GDP. However, I don't think one can claim that Vienna was harsher than Versailles either given how that indemnity was the ONLY punishment France received for pillaging all of Europe for 2 decades.

>>18328545
The reason Britain wouldn’t support it

>>18328511
>Losing 2% of your territory when you surrender is harsh but losing 13% of your territory in a peace armistice isn't

>>18328511
>the former annexed a whole province
Oh my god, a whole province? Thankfully Versailles didn't annex provinces

>>18327366
fakers, to make themselves look better so people like you can say that

>>18327502
>Which wasn't their intent, they only wanted to pass through.
You can put more effort in than that, come on