Well I'm not a retarded hick so that's reason number one.

I'm too well adjusted.

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>>18327586
>>18327614
Enjoy Hell.
>>18327595
Exactly.

>>18327558
Jesus isn't real

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>>18327682
and he was gay. ever wonder why there was no mrs jesus?

>>18327558
They believe in Santa Claus.
Also, I would never hold communion with white men as they are all child predators.

>>18327558
Because
>i'm not a protestant pretending to be a restorationist
>i don't worship the king james bible
>there's a world beyond your redneck tribe that has a variety of faith traditions, even within christianity itself, that can't be easily brushed off as them all being "hellbound devil worshippers"
>i see the purpose of religion being spiritual and ethical purification, not some get into heaven scam

>>18327558
because I'm a congregationalist.

>>18327558
because I'm not a zionist stooge

>>18328026
enjoy Hell.

>>18327595
>call no man father
ok but does it say anything about building bridges and the bishop of Rome?
There is also the famous Peter verse and Catholic popes claim spiritual descent (bishop after bishop) from Peter himself. There were many obscure periods, some lasting decades and the fact they survived despite all that is evidence of Christ's Power

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Because I’m a baby-sprinkling confessional Calvinist

>>18328035
>Catholic popes claim spiritual descent (bishop after bishop) from Peter himself.
I can claim to be king of the moon but it wouldn’t make it true
>There were many obscure periods, some lasting decades and the fact they survived despite all that is evidence of Christ's Power
You’re likely referring to periods preceding the dawn of Romanism, which was in the high middle ages

>>18328107
>I can claim to be king of the moon but it wouldn’t make it true
false analogy

>>18327586
classist, ableist snob, not very christlike.

>>18328374
It’s a true analogy because the pope of Rome has no descent from Peter.

>>18327717
Why is the Jewbot arguing with real people

>>18328668
>strawman argument
the pope never claimed physical descent, just spiritual descent

>>18327558
What's Anderson's opinion on fast food do you think?

>>18328912
He has no descent in any sense, the only thing Peter said about the papacy is 2 Peter 2:1.

>>18329026
you can believe whatever you want
I did not enter this thread to debate some braindead evangelical who doesn't even know his own history more than 3 generations back
People at the time and afterward believed the pope's claim

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>>18327558
I'm not into BBC

>>18329031
>you can believe whatever you want
You can believe whatever you want, but you will stand judgement before God.
>some braindead evangelical who doesn't even know his own history more than 3 generations back
Sir, you lash out with the mad anger of the heathens. I am well studied in church history, I am not this prejudicial strawman you just made up in your head.
>People at the time and afterward believed the pope's claim
People at the time and afterward believed Muhammad’s claim

>>18329041
>t. billy bob's most ardent follower
>claims to be more legitimate than the Bishop of Rome
I'd like to see your credentials
and the thread is still about the HRE by the way. You have not disproven any of my arguments by acting retarded

>>18329061
>more legitimate than the Bishop of Rome
The bishop of Rome is the servant of the devil and the beast of Revelation, so yes, easily.
>I'd like to see your credentials
I am baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ.
>and the thread is still about the HRE by the way. You have not disproven any of my arguments by acting retarded
Are you lost?

>>18329071
1. If what you said were true it would be self evident, you wouldn't need to seethe here
2. your 'church' is some scoville retardation, little better than LDS or JW
3. the Catholic Church has outlasted countless heresies in the past 2000 years, it will outlast yours as well
p.s. don't forget to circumcise your son and tip your rabbi

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>>18329132
>If what you said were true it would be self evident
It is self-evident. This man not only places himself in God’s place and demands the faith, obedience and deference which belongs to God alone, but he is not ashamed to claim for himself the titles of God, calling himself “Holy Father”, “Head of the Church”, and “Vicar of Christ”, and requiring others to call him the same, in fulfillment of the prophecy that he would declare himself to be God in the temple of God. He is the leader of the largest false church and enemy of the gospel on the earth, and he has a long history of tremendous influence over the rulers of the earth.
>your 'church' is some scoville retardation, little better than LDS or JW
You’re still just seething at your own imagination
>the Catholic Church has outlasted countless heresies in the past 2000 years
The current church of Rome is not the Catholic Church, and has not existed for close to 2,000 years. It has barely existed for 1,000 and is near to its demise.
>don't forget to circumcise your son and tip your rabbi
Take your meds

>>18329143
What I'm saying is that you're neither the first nor the last to seethe at the Unam Sanctam. It has been around for close to 2000 years, your jewish lies don't invalidate recorded history. You won't find any diocese anywhere in Christendom with the continuity of Rome, and that makes you and others uncomfortable.

>>18327595
>What the Bible actually says
So when Jesus said: “This is my body” and “This is my blood”, what did he really mean?

>>18329178
You are living in a delusional fantasy instead of the real world. The notion of a papacy was utterly unknown in the ancient church, and the bishop of Rome’s presumptuous attempts to govern other jurisdictions were consistently rebuffed. Example: during the Pelagian controversy, the bishop of Rome attempted to reinstate Pelagius and ordered the African bishops to accept him as orthodox. His presumption was rejected, and a contest began between him and them which concluded in the Roman bishop (who was not yet a pope) being forced to concede and withdraw his commands. It has not been close, it is the unambiguous fact of history that neither the papacy nor Romanism preceded the middle ages. You have been caught in the devil’s snare and deceived by a counterfeit of Christianity, to hold you in bondage to your sins and terrify you with the judgement of God. But according to the scriptures one has no more cause to fear God’s anger no matter how much they sin if they believe in Christ, if you give up your faith in good works and place your faith in Christ alone instead you will not fall into God’s displeasure even if you should commit a thousand mortal sins a day.

>>18329183
It means that just as we see the bread broken and the wine poured out our Savior was broken and His blood poured out in our place, and just as with our mouths our bodies take life from them our souls are fed by His precious body and blood through faith.

>>18329183
You're very stupid. Have fun burning!

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Who would win in an autism off, Fundamental Baptist, or Calvinists?

>>18329285
Not even the biggest train and sonic the hedgehog fan could out-autism baptists

>>18329143
>and has not existed for close to 2,000 years. It has barely existed for 1,000
Ignatius of Antioch (c. 50–140 AD) referred to the church as Catholic, so fuck off prottie

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>>18329295
>Not even the biggest train and sonic the hedgehog fan could out-autism baptists
Apparently you missed this >>18329183
sperg out.
>>18329312
>Epic Beard Man said-
No one cares. Enjoy Hell.

>>18327558
>Why aren't you a fundamentalist Baptist?
Because I want to get to Heaven

>>18329037
You're weird.

>>18329199
That's just your subjective interpretation

>>18329312
>but this guy said a word, therefore he believed Mary physically flew up to heaven and did not die

>>18329365
It’s the bible’s teaching.

>>18329367
Again, says who?
The Bible can be read in a variety of ways

>>18329369
I read this post as meaning the bible cannot be read in a variety of ways

>>18329193
Ok I understand your feelings are coming from a good place, but I assure you my spiritual well-being is not in jeopardy for following the Catholic Rite, which I believe is the closest to Christ's teachings since it's the only correct one.
Your church is a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of Protestantism or Reform Movement, which is not in Communion with the Church of Rome
>why does Rome matter
Rome always mattered, despite its ups and downs and obscure North African disputes. You should read up on the Donatists and Circumcellions btw. They also tried and failed to reinvent the wheel.

>>18329394
>I assure you my spiritual well-being is not in jeopardy for following the Catholic Rite
Do you believe the mass is a sacrifice for the sins of the living and the dead? Do you believe if you died right now you would go to heaven? For what reason do you believe you are right with God?
>Your church is a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of
No, it isn’t. That’s just more propaganda, and I feel real sorry you’ve been given these types of lies to keep you in bondage but they’re just not true.
>Rome always mattered
No, it didn’t, Christ always mattered. There’s very little about Rome in the New Testament, and none of it about any supposed preeminence. If you believe Christ cannot save you unless you are subject to a human bureaucracy then you have never known Him.
>They also tried and failed to reinvent the wheel.
The Reformation did not reinvent the wheel, we returned to the primitive Catholic faith which the popes trampled underfoot and made obscure. We didn’t decide the wheel wasn’t good enough and we should try again, we decided the round wheels were better all along and we should go back to them instead of the square wheels the pope had infallibly replaced them with. The Donatists are not relevant to this discussion.

>>18329426
1. The Mass is called Eucharist and it means giving thanks to Christ for His Sacrifice. I believe I will be saved, I may day God decides.
2. Of course Christ matters infinitely more than anything else. Rome matters in the human sphere, not in the Divine one
3. Your understanding of Catholicism is limited to the deeds (and misdeeds) of prominent popes and/or other bishops. It survived and thrived despite all that, and it chugged along sometimes leaderless.
4. Papal infallibility was not a thing until the XIX century and is only used rarely for specific doctrinal disputes
The pope cannot come out and deny the Trinity for example, and use papal infallibility

>>18327558
My teeth are too straight

>>18329448
>The Mass is called Eucharist and it means giving thanks to Christ for His Sacrifice
I would like a solid yes or no
>I believe I will be saved, I may day God decides
Evidently due to typos this sentence is incomprehensible, so I request clarification. And I request an answer to the third question. On what basis are you not cast into hell?
>Rome matters in the human sphere, not in the Divine one
I note, this is not what Rome claims. Rome’s own dogmatic statements are abundantly clear, they say if you are not in submission to the Roman pontiff you will not be saved. Secondly, this confuses Caesar and the Church, the Church is appointed only for spiritual purposes, for temporal governance He has appointed the civil magistrate and not the Church.
>Your understanding of Catholicism is limited to the deeds (and misdeeds) of prominent popes and/or other bishops
The errors in question are not the private ones of certain persons only, but the public ones of the whole church; they are testified to by the sanctions of councils, the decrees of popes, and the practice and usage of the whole church, in which they are prescribed to be believed and professed by each and all.
>Papal infallibility was not a thing until the XIX century
You should ponder that, meditate on it. There is great significance in this concession, for it concedes that Romanism is not the faith once delivered to the saints through the hands of the apostles, or did the Christian religion begin in the 19th century? For if this dogma derives from then then it must belong to some other religion than the Christian one. Though I note this is true only of the individual person of the pope and not the ordinary magisterium.
>The pope cannot come out and deny the Trinity for example, and use papal infallibility
Why not? Who’s gonna tell him he can’t, you?

>>18329502
>Why not? Who’s gonna tell him he can’t, you?
Yeah, me. And a billion other Catholics before I even make it to the Vatican
You seem to have completely misunderstood the role of the pontiff (pontifex, one of the many reasons why Rome matters)
He does not require a pilgrimage to St. Peters
He is not a demigod or even 'equal of the Apostles' as the Eastern Roman Emperors styled themselves. He has his own priest he confesses to, because all Catholics believe the pope is a sinner like everyone else (except Jesus and Mary)
There are no doctrinal errors in Catholic theology, there may be points of contention with Greek Orthodox and others, but the Catholics are in no way erroneous in their beliefs regarding God and the Church
>question about the Mass
I responded already. Yes, I believe I will be saved, I may die any day (that's what I meant with the garbled sentence) and every day I live I thank God
Going to Mass is important, going with the right intention and state of mind is crucial. I never approved of people who go just to perform or show off their new outfits, but their presence does not diminish the majesty of Christ