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>>7852417
Hogarth study

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When I was a child, my grandmother's house was always full of women; I felt safe and protected there. This work is an idealized vision of that house. The characters are guided by the main figure, dressed in black and representing my grandmother. She leads her daughters and granddaughters through a Galician mountain devastated by the flames of a fire that will return to their lives repeatedly. Stoic as caryatids, they try to overcome adversity by remaining united.

Magic is present through the girl on the left, who, through her right eye, possesses the ability to peer into the "other side." The character accompanying "my grandmother" is a recently wounded woman, still carrying the punishment for having made a bad decision, while the woman peeking out behind them both, silently judging and observing. The young woman in the background looks back to learn from her experiences and return to the same mistakes of the past. The two women on the right exchange rumors.

Fire is an element that has several meanings in this painting: transformation, purification, punishment, and celebration. The absence of fingers on some of the hands symbolizes the loss of loved ones. The white dresses signify innocence and light, which will fade over time, giving way to mourning.

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>>7852417
Some nature studies too. I love drawing trees

>>7852422
Beautiful work anon, thanks for sharing the story behind it

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>>7852417
I don’t really paint much but I liked doing this

>>7852422
>>7852428
go away, retard

>>7852496
???

>>7852500
post your own work, the guy that painted that doesn't even post in english

>>7852503
I did post my work. The other works are mine lol

>>7852505
the other works are shit, nobody cares

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This painting reimagines the myth of Icarus not at the moment of flight or fall, but in its quiet aftermath. Washed ashore amid jagged rocks and restless gulls, the figure lies motionless—neither clearly dead nor alive. Inspired by Chantal Delsol’s Icarus Fallen, the work meditates on the fate of the modern individual in the absence of transcendent ideals. Here, Icarus becomes a symbol not of hubris, but of disorientation—stripped of certainty, cast down without clarity, and left in the silence after the descent.

The painting invites reflection on what comes after collapse—when heroic narratives fail and we must navigate meaning from the ground up.

>>7852508
Okay dude

>>7852422
>>7852510
im not even interested in whether these are ai, or digital, just stop posting them in the traditional art thread. theyre gay

>>7852630
Calm down, newfag, arc salon winners are traditionally posted in these threads.
https://www.artrenewal.org/18th-arc-salon#/

>>7852633
you seething every year doesn't make it a tradition, fag
arc is a meme, nobody cares

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>>7852648
This world is in turmoil, and we need to look inward to find the strength and the direction toward peace. It begins with our children.

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>>7852420
Really cool
>>7852425
Lit trees. Lorax approved, honestly

Fiddled this one to absolute death… so angry I didn’t just leave it alone. I’ve got to get better at moving on

>>7852884
Thanks anon. The Lorax approved made my day haha

Very nice work. Those clouds are amazing. I do think you could benefit from darker darks, especially near the bottom

>>7852884
>A H
adolf hitler

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>>7852910
>clouds mentioned
At last, I can rest. The bottom cloud is an absurd combination of a whole bunch of attempts to fix mistakes. I never should have touched it. It has so much white gouache at this point that I’m amazed it blends in. Here’s where it started, lmao. I could have saved myself 3 hours by making maybe a few detail marks on the mountain and being done

how to clean inside of ink bottle I cant see how far to dip

>>7853106
use an inkwell, bottles aren't for dipping into

>>7852884
Your warm and cold spots are all over the place. Learn a little bit of theory about light, would help.

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Acrylic marker art of some aliens
>>7852454
Cute! I used to watch Olivia when I was younger

>>7853288
Thanks! These are so fucking dope. I’m saving them for character design inspiration. What’s the medium?

>>7853315
Lmao ignore this I don’t know how to read

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>>7853256
I’m devastated. My reference for the mountains sucked with everything overcast, photoshopped and gloomy, so they’re pretty much entirely invented. I think they put like an orange tint over the whole thing.

You’re right that I could likely progress by reading more. I’m pretty much just stepping back and deciding what would look “good” over and over. I just bought two tiny 7x10 cotton blocks since it was like $0.50 a sheet. I’ll try practicing.

Posting this reference since I don’t paint enough

>>7853348
You can't rely on photography too much, when it's not your own. Many photographs are manipulated to oblivion. In such cases it's a good thing to rely on known formulas.

>>7853348
become a plein air chad

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I have zero artistic talent, but through a mixture of my hatred to a group of people that ruined the only hobby I had and wanting to be better than them and my mother getting cancer, I want to change that.
This is my first oil painting that didn't turn out to be abysmal garbage through a mixture of trial and error and despite Tucson being an "art town" I haven't found any art class that isn't either A) an excuse for day drinking B) middle of the day university classes. Also I am not sure the canvas I am using is correct as the canvas sags significantly in the middle, but I am not sure if price wise I am at the point of being able to fork over big bucks for the "professional grade" ones.
I have an above average paying job and sure I could probably just buy her a drawing but I want to be by my mother side when I see her on the weekends. I am using just run of the mill Winsor oil paints and I tried going for a Bob Ross painting video which I fear the skill gap is too drastic IE how he uses the brushes / however in the hell he is able to make mountains with the paint knife.
Is there a better starting point than just jumping into Bob Ross videos? I know it is called the joy of painting but I am always on edge and it is hard for me to just keep saying "this looks nothing like what he did, but keep going and learn, it has to get better eventually". At the end of the day this is for my mother but also to hopefully helps me do things rather than just watch Youtube all day on my days off.
Thank you

>>7853803
Not to be pedantic, but you can't become more talented, per definition. But you probably mean, you want just get better.
>the canvas sags
That's not very good. You can stretch it, if the frame allows it, or at least make the back wet and let it dry, which will cause some shrinking of the fabric.
>Winsor oil paints
They are okey, if you like the consistence, use it.
>Bob Ross painting video
Its very casual, its very decorative and very formulistic. If you like it, why not.
On a somewhat deeper level, you can ask yourself if you really want to paint nature based on very stiff formulas. Or is it better to paint what you see in the nature, or at least from a photo.
You trade a universal skill for faster results. By leaning hard into formulas you will be able to paint something that people would like to hang on their wall. If you are okey with that, go on.

>>7853848
>make the back wet
canvas, not frame

>>7853848
Thank you very much for being honest with me. For what I want to do in the short run is to just be confident enough to paint a landscape and not need to second guess myself with every action.
In the downtime since the last post I looked up tutorials for how to properly load the knife with paint for the mountain outline, so I will try again tomorrow- and actually paint outside so I don't need to worry as much about paint thinner and oil going everywhere

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crit

>>7853803
the bob ross show is not made to teach you to paint, it's made to let you somewhat replicate what he did with a handful of technical gimmicks in a short amount of time because you're a stay at home mom or a retired zogbot with ptsd
it's good for what it sets out to do, but not for what you seem to do
that said, you clearly didn't even attempt to actually follow a video of his, so no shit it's not gonna look good

>>7853926
I think the picture should be darker and more upside down, I can still kinda tell it's a skull.

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>>7853936

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>>7853940
My tech fatigue is dangerously high

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Hope you like my art

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>>7853926
Form ain't good, look into Bammes for example.
>>7854066
I do, i like the flat hard edge style lately. What is it based on? Have you used an air brush? How long did it take with all the masking and so on?
P.S. you are guys are obviously retarded, don't worry, many such cases in this thread, let me help you.

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>>7854066
Woah this looks awesome! It reminds me a lot of Hiroshi Nagai's work. I really like how you did the sky gradient and palm trees

>>7853943
Why did you avoid drawing the rest of it?

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>>7852417
Guys…it’s finally finished

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>>7852417

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>>7854296
samefaging three days later and you guys posted nothing in the meantime. trad is dead !

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Lost your marbles? Make some!

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>>7852417

>>7853803
if you are learning how to oil paint, you could try buying oil painting paper and tape it to a board. your early works might not be worth a canvas each. you might grow out of the paper quickly but it is a cheap way to get 10 or 20 paintings done.

>>7857214
Is that Magic Man? What happened to the Violet Clovers? :(

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>>7857288
Different fellow, I'm afraid.

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>>7852417

>make portrait
>Know something is wrong but dont know what
>If Id see the mistake I wouldnt make it in the first place
So how to cover my own blind spots? Ask AI?

>>7857370
Brack Ohama

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>>7852417

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>>7858816
Whats with these

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>>7858909
The top one isn’t really in the ref but the one near her cheek is

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>>7858909
I touched it up. Still looks mostly the same but it’s a noticeable difference so thanks for pointing it out

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>>7853348
Happy with this one. Lil 7x10

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How fond are you of you rmedium of choice? Did you just fall into it or is there something that draws you to it in particular.
I like pastels because they're easy-peasy and light on equipment. They have their flaws which has me glancing elsewhere and it has been interesting seeing all diehards out there for other mediums.

poorfag here
just ordered black velvet #6 round brush
is it too big for a watercolor beginner who wants to save as much paper as possible?
I don't draw landscape yet I just draw a few small apples and other objects to fill up the whole paper

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>>7861302
I just kinda ended up on oil paints. It's just the one medium that produces results I like. But I would like to experiment with different medium too, like egg tempera, as a learning experience.
Besides oil I also draw a lot with graphite and charcoal. The graphite is more precise and "durable", the charcoal is faster and more flexible, a bit messier too.

>>7852422
I thought the absence of fingers symbolised AI use

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I am not a baby anymore.. i am not so innocent anymore.. whyim in love now?! I dunno?? How can i live forever i donr know where cna i fisn ehaven? I dornnknownwhu imin love nowHb o eunkoB

>>7862031
Some people do have 4 fingers.

>>7861961
a 6 is too small if anything, a 10 is the workhorse brush, an 8 is already on the small side
>save as much paper as possible
ngmi, water becomes exponentially less controllable and more destructive as the surface scales down and paint dries exponentially faster the smaller the area
buy a roll of baohong off of temu or ali (square corner decoration is student grade, squiggly decoration is artist grade, if the picture has a square pattern on the corners of the label, it's student grade regardless of what the chinks wrote)

>>7862400
4 is plenty

>>7862412
don't be a retard

>>7863036
We are already 20 days into the new year, nodraw.

>>7863285
Jeez, Brian was able to finally make some progress.

>>7863364
there's no joke, he has a hateboner for brian so he's insulting him by implying he's worse than you

>>7861961
Most people will tell you to get a round brush with one inch length of hair for your main brush. Smaller brushes will skip over paper, need to be reloaded often and likely train you to work with weak, watery paint since they can't deliver thicker paint onto the paper.

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>>7852417

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Third ever portrait. First time using charcoal. been doing drawing on the right side of the brain. Feedback is appreciated :)

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Remnants of An Army (1879) by Elizabeth Butler

Depicts a soldier from the british Bengal Army returning from the great 'retreat from Kabul' in Afghanistan 1842. One of the few survivors. Most soldiers died from exposure and starvation.

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>>7864576
Vesuvius from Posillipo (1774) by Joseph Wright

Depicts the night after the eruption of Vesuvius which caused the destruction of Pompeii, Italy, and the deaths of up to 16000 people.

>>7864576
why did the horse not go for a drink from that lake if it is so thirtsy?

>>7864652
there was a nigger in it

>Nowadays when purple finds its way even on to party-walls and when India contributes the mud of her rivers and the gore of her snakes and elephants, there is no such thing as high-class painting. Everything in fact was superior in the days when resources were scantier. The reason for this is that, as we said before, it is values of material and not of genius that people are now on the lookout for.
>One folly of our generation also in the matter of painting I will not leave out. The Emperor Nero had ordered his portrait to be painted on a colossal scale, on linen 120 ft. high, a thing unknown hitherto; this picture when finished, in the Gardens of Maius, was struck by lightning and destroyed by fire, together with the best part of the Gardens. [52] When a freedman of Nero was giving at Antium a gladiatorial show, the public porticoes were covered with paintings, so we are told, containing life-like portraits of all the gladiators and assistants. This portraiture of gladiators has been the highest interest in art for many generations now; but it was Gaius Terentius Lucanus who began the practice of having pictures made of gladiatorial shows and exhibited in public; in honour of his grandfather who had adopted him he provided thirty pairs of gladiators in the forum for three consecutive days, and exhibited a picture of their matches in the Grove of Diana.
the west has fallen

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Meow

>>7865523
What?

>>7865561
>pliny lamenting how art isn't as good as before because of gay indian imports and tasteless richfags wanting newfangled canvas paintings instead of board
what do you not understand, you dumb pleb? it's over, the west has fallen

>>7865567
Read Spengler NOW.

>>7865569
hmmm, no

>>7865571
Actually yes.

>>7864461
quite promising; keep at it.

if you want to progress more efficiently, I'd suggest to draw bigger, to focus on individual facial features, really taking your time to learn how to articulate them thoroughly.

work from photos, pieces of art, life, etc.

>>7864461
Looks quite nice.
What was the reference?

>>7864461
Very nice work. Maybe add more shading and forms along the forehead

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>>7865533
Pt2

>>7863036
Thank you. I hope you have fun with the pastels. They're super enjoyable in my opinion. q-tips are fun for fine blending.

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I'm losing my mind, is daylight cool or warm? Yesterday I've spent hours looking into this and literally everything came back as sunlight being cool outside of dawn and dusk or very extreme latitudes, today I open up a random video and see this shit as an example of daylight lighting.

>>7867089
>I'm losing my mind, is daylight cool or warm?
There is no such thing.
The shallower the sun arrays are hitting the atmosphere, the more blue light is filtered out. Red light penetrates deeper, due to wave length.
So in the morning and in the evening the light is warmer.
In summer, the light is warmer.
In Nordic countries the light is cooler.
If the sky is overcast, the light gets is soft and blue.
Shadows outside reflect the sky and are nearly always, if not always, colder.

>>7867194
>There is no such thing.
I mean there is, but most of the time context is much more important than just the wavelenght of given light.

>>7867194
>>7867196
Nigga, I'm asking if it's warm or cool, not if it can get warmER or coolER depending on angles and latitude, which I already addressed in the post.
Look at the image, daylight is treated as an orange light, but daylight is supposed to be 5k to 6k kelvin, which are both cool

>>7867209
Lol, you're such an embarrassing low iq racist. I bet your groyper friends think you are a homosexual, because your hobby is painting.

>>7867221
Wrong, I don't even have any friends. Now answer the question.

>>7867230
>I don't even have any friends
Am i supposed to feel pity for you?
The subject does not look like its outdoor, lit by the sun and the sky.

>>7867239
>warm light doesn't look like daylight
Ok, so I was right, daylight is cool. Thanks, nigger.

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>>7867240
Sunlight does not have a fall off like in your picture, you little retard.
It can be cold or warm on itself, and it can be photographed with different white balance setting, to appear cold or warm on the photography.

>>7867253
>It can be cold or warm
That's not what the spectrometer says, stay mad lol
Also, it's "in itself", brownoid.

imagine getting this butthurt over "nigga"

>>7867209
warm and cool is all relative and changes from composition to composition
dunno why that other faggot is crying about racism, must be a redditor. black lives splatter.

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>>7867271
>brownoid
>>7867276
>nigga
Epic troll anon, im triggered.
Take screenshots, post it on X, i bet the boys will kek hard!

>>7867328
what troll, retard? you literally went full reddit soiranting about racists and groypers over him saying "nigga"

>>7867328
go get shot by ICE

>>7867341
Thats funny, jokes about murdering innocent people never get old, right?
You know who else never get old? Charlie Kirk.

>>7867356
>never got old
>31
brown unc hitting that copium

>>7867400
Indeed, 31 is more than old enough for a fascist.

>>7867428
>indeed
LMAO this nigga thinks hes shakespeare ahahahaha

>>7867440
I am Shakespeare, moor

>>7867440
Haha, bro you're killing me.
Like low reproduction rates killing the white race. Weak sperm, i guess.

>>7867443
Is that like shakespeare, japan but for niggers lmoaaaaaa
>>7867448
>takes a guess
>immediately thinks of cum
ohnonono o is that why you all go gay in prison ahahahaha nah jk if I had to fuck nigger women Id be gay two

>>7867450
>if I had to fuck women Id be gay two
Dont worry, you can sit in your cuck chair and watch me breeding racism out of your race.

>>7867356
i don’t care about charlie kirk even remotely. done with fake abrahamism bullshit.

>>7867455
you kiss your cell mate with that mouth?

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>>7852417
hey guys do you mind

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unfinished ink illustration
>>7864461
nice
>>7867829
I don't mind

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>>7859150
Marbleous!

>>7867829
How is business going, Brian?

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>>7869185
slowing down, we'll see what next month is i kind of ran out of ideas for things to sell and how to sell them 2/3rds through the month

>>7869211
how'd you get people to buy your stuff

>>7869213
a lot of the sales go into a pool of money within ebay that i then spend on advertising, i spend about $50-$75 a day on advertising my listings and store and try to recoup it by the end of the day. last response because these captchas are a nightmare

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>>7869214
thanks

>>7869214
>last response because these captchas are a nightmare
its literally a 85iq test

>>7869211
nice

That's Brain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr1p6m44wUs

>>7869513
https://youtu.be/QUjklZr6qI0

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is this sellable 1m by 1m unfinished still have like 20% to go

>>7870049 here

Any tips to make the background mountains more differentiated from the foreground ones? Things I have considered:

>Backgrund saturation lower (this pushes it to green tones, or alternatively muddy greys. the greys look dirty and amateur though)
>Background darker?
>background with colder tones (not sure if this makes sense as it's night time and with weird fantasy lighting)

Not sure how it'd look better

>>7870049
anything is sellable if you're hot enough

>>7870054
maybe i should catfish as a hot girl with AI lmao.

>>7870049
should've just said "any tips to make it look better" otherwise you sound like a soulless jew who's in it for the money and is also fishing for compliments

>>7870064
yeah you're probably right. i need to make some pennies though.

>>7870049
>is this sellable
Everything is, in theory

>>7870049
squint at this and compare how flat the value range is to a piece by a renaissance master when you squint at it

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>>7870323
>muh rEnaIsSanCE
>muh vALue RangE
Bet you thought you sounded real knowledgeable huh NERD

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>thEy sQUintED rEAl HArd baCk in tHe rEnaIsSanCE

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>dON't yOu kNoW aBOuT THe vALue RangE iN tHE rEnaIsSanCE??

fuck you nerd

fuck you so much

>>7870358
>>7870366
>>7870368
Not meereeeeeeereer

>>7870368
There's good value range here, contrarian retard

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>>7870451
>contrarian retard

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>value range

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>>7870049
Very flat, use visual perspective, less texture far away, combine lights and darks, use a pose for the dragon that shows depth and form better.

>>7870481
>anon has to rely on technology, which he doesn't understand, instead of his own eyes
it's over bro

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> Went to the Sofia Reina to see Juan Uslé
> These works are fucking dope
> Never cared for Picasso, but might as well see the Guernica while I'm here
> Thousands of people died from airstrikes in residential areas
> Picasso paints le silly horse
What a fucking hack

>>7870832
Second this, lol, its over for techcels.
>>7870834
>Juan Uslé
>Picasso
Modernism was mistake.

>>7870368
>>7870481
what a retarded faggot
i will continue creating artworks with a good balance of light and dark values with squinting while you paint 1x1m monstrosities that have zero illusion of depth
good luck selling your art bro

>>7871044
that wasnt me lmao. i will see what i can do. why call it a monstrosity though do you think its bad.
>>7870777
ty good ideas

>>7871044
>i will continue creating artworks
lol imagine posting this itt ahahahaahaha

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>>7852417

>>7861302
cute snai

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If I have a dark pigment thin enough can I get it to act similar to how a multiplier layer works on digital? My values are absurdly weak and I want to make the entire bottom third of my painting a fair bit darker without entirely losing the detail

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>>7871384
Picrel is what I'm going for (in addition to brightening sky)

>>7871384
>If I have a dark pigment thin enough can I get it to act similar to how a multiplier layer works on digital?
Yes and no. Overall it will behave similar, in practice physical paint behaves a little bit different. You have an impasto painting, when you glaze the paint will creep into the fold and wrinkles and create dark spots. Not necessary a bad thing, but it will look less "seamless".
Most common blues are transparent enough for glazing: ultramarin, phtalo, prussian. Cobalt is opaque, but you can glaze with opaque paint as well, if you know what you do.
>in addition to brightening sky
Thats harder. In oil paint making thing lighter and warmer is way more complicated than making things darker and cooler.

>>7871384
>similar to how a multiplier layer works on digital
not really
even assuming a perfectly transparent pigment, which you don't have, multiply affects saturation completely differently
what you want to do is glaze each color individually with an appropriate color glaze

>>7871486
>>7871525
Thanks guys. And yeah I know the sky is a total repaint. Is what it is.
I'm letting it dry for a week or two so I can wipe off mistakes but I'll try those blues for a glaze. Thanks.

>>7871384
Buy some lakes and experiment with it on a canvas pad. Love your work man.

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>>7870834
I always go there to check out this one

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I have so much to learn

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Painting thing on wood board is this shit or is this fire

>>7872055
>Look at me, look at me! I have a log! I'm so heckin trad and based!
I have a log too, you're not special.

>>7872062
LOL It's the back of a stamp I carved, I just used it so the flimsy cardboard will stand up I want it.

>>7867829
Hey Brian what kind of descriptions/titles do you use to sell your art? Do you come up with artsy names or do you try to hit as many searches as possible?

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painted frens OC

>>7873627
you can always look at his ebay and see yourself dummy

>>7873659
Didn't wanna pry but whats his ebay

I wish I was Brian, but white and good at painting

>>7873721
He is ITALIAN for God’s sake, basically a Übermensch, WE WUZ CAESAR AND SHIIIET!

>>7864461
NICE

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>>7852417
Mauricio Anton study

>>7874782
biutiful