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Finally found a brush that makes digital fun

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>>7854173

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>>7854173
Goddamn I suck at anatomy

>>7854219
Beg gtfo

>>7854281
These are just old drawings

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>>7854173
Here’s something newer

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>>7854266
Touched it up a little

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The lighting is bothering me..

>>7854397
Why you drawing school girls anon?

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reeposting in hopes of getting some of that good good critique

>>7854426
I really like this and don’t have much to say critique wise especially since it so stylized and I only know so mic about color theory. However the nose…well it doesn’t look like a nose. I think you should find a way to balance stylization and anatomy better in that sense, the same way you did with the hands, which look good

>>7854426
And also try not the merge the hands together like you did on the left most one (in the pic) always draw the individual fingers

>>7854291
Any critiques of this shit? Does it still look beg?

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>>7854455
Yeah it's beg
I can understand why you don’t see that, because it takes time for your eyes to adjust and recognize the real skill gap and the actual issues

Do more gesture drawings

>>7854464
>>7854455
You're both beg
t. a fellow beg

>>7854464
How do I build the skills to detect begness ?

>>7854475
Keep drawing, draw from pictures and draw from other drawings

>>7854477
You got a point. When I look at previous drawings from years ago that I thought were pretty nice they disgust me. Shame you can't detect begness immediately . It would help out if you point out the flaws too

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>>7854426
Ignore the other guy, never draw individual fingers

>>7854481
>never draw individual fingers

???

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Been autistically drawing soldier dudes for my worldbuilding project the past couple of days.

>>7854399
>girl

>>7854485
the armour design reminds me of something but I can't remember what exactly and it's bothering me immensely

>>7854601
Eldar I imagine. At least that's what it reminds me of

>>7854606
Eldar have admittedly been a partial influence on the look of these dudes though I have tried to make them distinct enough. Other influences are from Warframe, Guyver, Baoh, Evangellion and what have you.

>>7854601
bonemold armour

>>7854441
Love her

>>7854485
Based

Do you have any examples of what a gang, militia or 'private contractor' groups look like in your setting?

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>>7854885
I haven't done images in the style of these faction infographic stuff like this>>7854485 for gangs and non major factions of the setting yet, but when I am done with the major factions I intend to depict gangs, commoner militias and what not as well in a similar format. The closest thing to a sort of private contractor type of thing I have drawn are these characters I drew few years ago though these were mostly me trying to design a bunch of characters I could potentially use for telling stories in the setting. The designs of these characters are also up for a bit of a refresh as well as they look a bit off and kind of bad to me these days. I also need to expand the roster to make the merc company concept work better as in this one there are to few combatants.

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been using a folder for a sketch book, so far i haven't noticed any difference but ain't doing too bad

>>7854861
that was it

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>>7854885
thanks

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>>7854485
New dude to the roster

>>7854596
Consider me invested.
Please post more drawings of the character

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>>7854213
Needs something else. Not sure exactly what.

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>>7854397
The background is lit more harshly than her.
she needs more contrast. Here's a quick edit.

>>7855770
I guess it works. It's still boring

>>7854288
Thats not new. You posted that a couple weeks ago.

>>7855788
The groid has no sense of time

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>>7855788
It’s newer than the other drawing that I posted. If you actually read the thread you would know that. I haven’t posted >>7855699
either

>>7855801
Says the one keeping up with how much a stranger online posts their art

>>7855951
Thank you for not disputing my statement

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Art Trade i had pending since early december, i was able to finish it at last.

A friend requested me to draw her Oc with Zero

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working on anotha propa orky fella

>>7856168
Cool Kommando

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Just began drawing last summer; looking for critique on some pictures of my OC.

1/4

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>>7856225
They all look pretty good but try to switch up the facial expression as well as giving the armor more form as well as shading along those forms instead of just making it all the same value. Since it’s armor doing that can communicate the texture better.

>>7856225
She's got a big ass ugly fuckin SCHNOZ
But other than that, she's just got a lot of shit on her armor that's gonna make it tiring to draw. Try drawing her a bunch and see how it simplifies over time.
You're doing good lad.

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>>7856341
Thank you anons. Face is definitely the hardest part for me but these are still much better than when I started. I like the eyes a lot but nose and mouth are the worst for me along with hands. I like her armor design for now but I will definitely try to make it more conforming.

Here's a final work in progress of her silencing a demon.

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Watch LIVE as the artist tries and fails to draw water in two tone.

Got some mixed feelings on this. Really loving the line work, and I think the environmental composition is interesting, but the eyeline is a bit too high and puts too much focus on the background rather than on the central characters. I'm trying to mix art styles here between my more realistic, stark style and something much more cartoony and exaggerated for the angel, but I don't think I delivered on it as well as I wanted to. The posing hiding the foot that's presumably holding the man up on the edge of the peer isn't good either - that's a pretty important part of this pose.

I wonder if the whole thing wouldn't have been better if it was shot from the opposite angle, from the bay looking up at the two. It'd give a dynamic feeling to the angel hovering above the water while the man sits on the edge turned to the viewer with slight disgust, rather than here, where it kind of looks like you just turned over a rock and found a bunch of bugs having a party. I also think, if I were a more experienced artist, I could have handled the shadows on the water better to make it feel more like a body of water, especially near the bottom of the page, but I'm very afraid of spending too long on it, zooming out, and realizing it's way too detailed and is distracting from the focal point of the image some place between the two character's heads.

What does /draw/ think?

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>>7856427
Study perspective a bit anon because you did a good job with the part of the sword that’s stabbing them in the throat but the upper half isn’t pointing in that same direction

>>7856580
Impressive

>>7856596
Thanks anon

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im working on a little project, if you could tell me which 2 boy designs are the WORST I would appreciate it.

>>7856722
Half of them don't look like boys, so are you asking which are the worst designed AS boys, or which are the worst looking?

>>7856722
7th (2nd in the bottom row) and 10th.

>>7856722
1, 5, 7, 8 are girls, fix it.
4 is the worst one overall.

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I have no fucking sense of appeal no matter what the fuck I do please dear lord help me. I consume art I like. I consume gay ass cartoons. I consume the new hip and with it art to no avail.

>>7856722
1 and 4

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I want to play d&d

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>>7857968
>>7856580
really cool

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i scanned a bunch of loosely related drawings and redrew them together but I don't really know if i can actually string them together in a way that makes sense.

>>7857920
love this

>>7858667
Really fun use of perspective

>>7857920
You have appeal, just make the face a bit bigger. Nice rendering too

>>7857968
Love these

>>7858705
Thanks anon. Nice profile, who is it? It gives me Whiplash vibes

>>7858710
There’s a clear theme and they make sense. I like the style but believe your anatomy could use a touch up, I think you could do a lot more with what you know as of now

>>7858686
Good drawing. Maybe work on using line weight more effectively tho

>>7858736
>I like the style but believe your anatomy could use a touch up, I think you could do a lot more with what you know as of now
yeah i shouldve used more references but too late now

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>>7858710

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"Mom's apple pie, the Fourth of July- SHE WAS A HOOKA"

>>7858686
Could I instead interest you in a game of DCC?

>>7858894
sovlfvll
Reminds me of old yugioh cards

>>7860405
Huh, I actually see that now

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>>7860405
thanks so much this is where it's at right now

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Guys, where is /alt/? I’m lost again

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>>7854173
Random

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I haven't drawn in over 10 years, was never good at it. I booted up Krita again, got my Wacom 4M Intuos out and I'm trying to draw these Doom monsters (Archviles) getting blasted by plasma fire, but I just sit there and I can't make any progress. This is for a megawad title pic. I just don't know what the fuck I'm doing anymore. I can't grayscale, I can't find a point where I say: now I want to color it, it just feels all wrong.

>>7861692
idk man maybe don't try something so ambitious for your first fuckin drawing in 10 years

is this the new /salt/?

>>7861270
I think the guy who makes it said he was done, and not trying to split the community anymore.
So, welcome

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I usually post in /salt/ but did some SFW portrait practice tonight

>>7861969
Cool work anon

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>>7860985
now

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Practiced some perspective.
I find armor to be a good to practice round shapes

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Why do my drawings look so stiff and unappealing? I feel like I'm stuck in the uncanny valley.

>>7862464
i think its just the pose, maybe use a reference next time? otherwise i really like it.

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>>7862464
I dunno I think it lacks volume and S and C curves.

>>7861898
i didn't say that, but i pretty much hold the same sentiment. i basically told myself as long as the thread hit bump limit i would make a new one. if it died before then, it was just a sign that there was no longer an interest in the thread.

for what it's worth i think the art of /alt/ was distinct enough from /draw/ that it warranted its own thread, but with the community being so small now, that distinction is no longer needed

>>7862516
Someone said they were leaving and didnt want to split. I guess it wasnt the OP, but I read it.
As for bump limit, it was at a bad time. We were spammed for a few days with nonsense question threads and loli crap. Either way, Im not complaining, the threads merging isn't a bad thing.

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>>7862464
Just an opinion and not a critique (who am I to?).
I think it lacks motion, as in YOUR motion. I don't feel your hand there, I don't feel passion, there's not much life in those strokes, but a lot of fear.
What I see in people I consider masters is both precision AND passion. It is not precision of fear, but precision of confidence in one's own taste and sense.

But again this is just my taste. Maybe you just lack trust and faith in your own?

>>7862479
I'll try to, I find it hard to find references specific enough for what I have in mind so I usually reference just parts.

>>7862495
Thank you for the redline! It's really helpful.

>>7862780
I see, it's a pretty abstract critique but I understand what you mean, I'll try to do more loose stuff. But if I'm more relaxed I can't focus on the rules as much, I guess with practice rules come as intuition.

>>7862845
>I can't focus on the rules as much
Just curious - what rules are you talking about?

>>7862912
I mean I try to follow anatomy and lighting and composition and such... many things to keep in mind

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I ported my art to my gameboy color using
https://there.oughta.be/a/game-boy-slideshow
and my EZflash flashcart.
Used only 4 colors from Pokemon Red/Blue.
I had to create the entire image on a 160 x 144 px canvas, which Is the screen size for the gameboy color.

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>>7863033
Here's the actual file

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first attempt

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>>7863033
>160 x 144 px canvas
Oh the horrors

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>>7863094
I'm not saying
>Omg a 160 x 144 canvas! so small!
I've done pixel art much smaller than that such as pic related

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>>7854173
>Drawing made it to the OP

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>>7861270
Sailor moon sailing on the moon. I should have had her also mooning the sails

>>7861898
A couple years ago I used to be the guy that made the threads. God speed thread guy you did a great service to the community

>>7861969
I forgot about yoko, i drew her next. Hoping to finish tonight

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I have a vision (rather unoriginal, ik) of a castle with an observatory dome on top in the middle of snow forest that is spread across the side of a mountain

What do i need to know when drawing architecture in general? Is there something that would be nice to learn for realizing this specific idea?

Would be lovely to also just hear your experience with drawing architecture

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just sketching the next ork drawing

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squat page (unintentional)
>>7862008
thank you
>>7863783
fucken awesome

>>7861270
everyone left. Including you. Whaddaya expect?

>>7863783
Cool

>>7863855
love your stuff

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i woke up today and had a vision of this green goblin so i drew him

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Drew this today

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Fan art

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>>7863855

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>>7863366
I’ll try to paint this tomorrow, but i am REALLY trying to make time to watch anime, but i used all my leisure credits on drawing today

>>7863884
I died like 4 times in the past 3 years. Atleast /fig/ is still around. I dont check any of the other generals. Alt will be missed. It was my first home after they kicked me out of /beg/

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Is it possible to give the harpy an open mouth smile from this perspective?
I tried it for a while but all of my attempts looked goofy.

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>>7864683
my edit

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Spent the afternoon upgrading my rpg make sprites from 32x32 to 48x48 only to realize they are still too small. There's a reason the original sprites have such huge heads. Can't see the face otherwise.
Darn my luck.

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Am I good enough to make a small income with my work? or do I have to keep training?

>>7864998
If you're willing to draw niche smut, you're probably good enough.

https://youtu.be/TolLk2_mUpY?t=85
In the first 3 minutes she drew a pretty nice background that has a lot of volume to the look. How do I do this with a digital brush, if I can't push the paint around like she can?

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>>7865011
furry porn or what ese does make money?

>>7865030
Furry market seems to do well. lsg as well.
Depends on what you can stomach probably. You have anything finished? And why not just get a job instead of sell your soul?

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>>7865044
mentally handicapped with schizoid OCD, I live in constant fear most of the time, so unable to have an average job.

>>7865055
Ah. Well your art isn't that bad. Just gotta find the right community

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>>7865063
thanks anon, gotta keep practicing then, I don't know jackshit about shading all I know is how to somewhat draw silhouettes

>>7865083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>7864467
I love the rendering on the face, I just wish it was more consistently detailed throughout or at least on the hands and arms.

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Rum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum - bew doo do doo do dew

>>7865304
Thanks! Yeah, I'm always afraid of overdoing the drybrush effect because it's easy to make mud with it. I'm gonna try a linocut drawing next so maybe that will be a chance to push things more and mess up, since it's easy to just make another print.

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>>7864962
very nice

>>7863033
that's really cool. how do you open the image in the gameboy?

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>>7854173
Wip

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>>7854173

Some of these are cute

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I was recently introduced to the art of Leon Spilliaert, and it's really made me want to learn to draw more environments and animal imagery. Only problem is that I am terrible at both of those things. Alright, then.

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Nerris from camp camp

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>>7854173
Tried grinding perspective a little I think I improved despite being a total beg when it comes to drawing boxes and cylinders and shit
Can I get some critiques?

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>>7866554

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Perspective was really tough in this piece. I don't know how to even go about it

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>>7866561

>>7866564
I think I can somewhat manage standing figures but ones that are sitting or leaning means they're following random horizon lines and i don't know what to do

>>7866545
I like the morrowind hud. Probably the best thing about this

>>7866575
>Cal arts slop
>good
Kill yourself

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>>7854173

deck one is complete! took me about 48 hours. 6 decks left to go!

>>7864467
Finally someone who isn't a beg

>>7862341
Great pose anon.
Can you tell me how you draw figures in perspective?
Do you draw boxy mannequins first?

>>7862464
The rendering is nice but it looks very flat
Try drawing with mannequins next time to construct proper figures

>>7860253
Not a big fan of the style but I can see you're pretty good

>>7866590
Are you retarded or just ESL? I'm genuinely curious, since it's clear you didn't understand what I was implying

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I’m mostly posting this to transfer to a digital medium, but regardless, which of these basic poses look the best/most natural?

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>>7866590
Its not that i like it calm down, i just draw that for a friend (and for 3 dlls lol)

Almost all here miss this part:
>If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.
/beg/ really mogs most in this thread.

>>7866674
We have a seen a large influx in begs here recently. Some pushback was said, but it was agreed that more posts isn't a bad thing for such a slow thread.
Well, somewhat agreed anyway

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not sure about the dog

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>>7866607

deck 2 stairwell is done. tried my best to conserve space.

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>>7864525
Done, the scanning cant pick up red. It’s very annoying.

>>7866956
amazing! is this all watercolor?

>>7866956
Amazing work

>>7867084
Mid to high beg

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Weird knowledge increase

>>7863033
Very cool anon

>>7863033
So cool, awesome work

Holy shit, is /draw/ the new /beg/ now?
Haven't been here in a hot minute, what is all this garbage art?

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>>7867703
This post made my day. Truth Hurts.

>>7866611
Nope, I do draw perspective lines though. Two or three is enough but it depends on skill. This practice involved actually slowing down and actually thinking about how it should look before drawing it. I noticed it's actually a better way of learning instead of rushing things and then fixing mistakes.

>>7867703
It’s always the anons with nothing to post that have the most to say

>>7867703
I'm starting to think it's 1 dude spamming images in an attempt to create drama

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>>7854173

>>7868247
Unfortunately, I doubt it. I think this is actually just the best /ic/ has to offer these days.

>>7868307
Why don't you post your work and improve the thread? You're good, right?

>>7868309
Remember that random thread an anon made posting drawings from this thread with insulting file names, saying they were all shit? Guarantee that’s him.

>>7868313
When did that happen?

>>7868320
It was a few days ago . Thread got removed pretty quickly but he literally spammed a bunch of drawings from this thread and made a bunch of awful comments

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>>7868309
Here.

But it's genuinely pointless to come here anymore. So I kinda stopped for awhile. It's disappointing recognizing anons month after month and not a single one of them ever actually improves. It's not even worth venting here anymore because this place is so fucking irony poisoned every interaction is like trying to talk to a retarded dog. I don't think this place is capable of improvement. And you can blame dwindling user counts or AI or the jannies or whateverthefuck, but I think the truth is lot of you guys are just irredeemably repulsive people. The amount of cognitive dissonance required to even entertain the idea of respecting the users here is actually physically tiring.

>>7868335
I don't know why you're acting like you're king shit with this. It's not bad but you're on the same level as anybody else itt. The board is fuckin dead yes, nobody draws anymore, the website seems less active in general. It sucks that every drawthread other than /beg/ is slow as molasses and I don't even care if a few beginners post here, so what? It's more people drawing rather than dooming and shitposting.
Why take your rage out on literally the one general where people draw? It's just so odd. I'm here btw >>7866738

>>7868335
Your negativity and pessimism is so unnecessary. Like are you monitoring specific anons and actively looking at their posts and not seeing them improve? We’re all here to just draw and have valuable discussion and you’re coming into the thread being incredibly critical of people who took time out of their day to draw and post it online. Nobody said this was the DaVinci general and that we’d be posting strictly masterpieces, we’re just here to post drawings. Fix your attitude.

>>7856168
Hell yeah

>>7858710
Cool style

>>7868322
They were not awful and i think i was on point 100%.
>>7868335
>>7868339
This is going to sound weird but it's the libs, they are to blame. Also normies. 4chan was a open minded site with bright people, now it's just a bunch of retards, they will never get good. You are basically sharing the site with art students but as in... normalfag shitty art student, the one that gets shot for stopping an ice agent and has green hair.

>>7868358
Also zoomers those guys are cooked, toasted even. Newgrounds 2.0 but gayer and...communist...eugh

>>7868358
Actually kys, please. Gun in mouth, pull trigger.

>>7868335
you paint a bleak picture. Yes, /ic/ has had better times but I don't think it's THAT bad.
Sad to hear how you feel about your fellow men. Personally I was always nice to you.
I think your assessment is correct when applied to the /beg/ thread though. There are some genuinely odd people that have made it their home.
It sounds like you're about to leave. I hope you find what you're looking for out there.

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>>7868081
I made the original comment, here is my art. I frequented here some years ago and I remember being humbled by the artists that were on here. And people were being sent back to /beg/ if a certain quality was not existent in the stuff they posted in /draw/, this was THE place to get feedback and haul your ass up to get some fucking splendid work done.

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which one do you think has more wide appeal?

>>7868450
for dark fantasy, b. for fun/goofy fantasy, a.

>>7868456
maybe I should've explained, but they are both for my dark fantasy project, but I only want to share one atm, so I'm trying to figure out which of them as more appeal.

>>7868335
Good. Fuck off and stay gone, loser. These threads are better without your shitty over-processed anime girl garbage

>>7868424
That’s fine, but that doesn’t give you a right to come into the thread and be critical of those that are working their hardest to become better. Like the other anon said, it really doesn’t matter if someone is a beg or not. The biggest issue here usually obsession with these levels in art if anything. It’s just a draw thread, and people are posting drawings. No need to be such a puritan about it

>>7868358
You’re so lame for making that thread. I’m glad it got taken down, imagine being THIS upset about people posting drawings in a drawing thread.

>>7868424
It's not concept art den anymore. I notice people get really upset about this fact, apart from any technical proficiency. I'm not sure if that's what triggered you, but people are going to draw their little anime doodles no matter what because this shit is lame.

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>>7854173
https://youtu.be/M-TU5HP1YGQ

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any to tips improve this?

>>7868450
i like A a lot. socials?

>>7868335
You also made the argument that we should have more beg posters here because the thread was so slow. Nigger pick a lane

>>7868335
Textureslop

>>7868424
Great poster leaves because
>>7868450
>>7868958
>>7868595
>>7868639
calling these low effort garbage hurts their feelings. just go back to /beg/.

>>7869022
thank you for grouping my /beg/ tier art with the good artists. Also, shouldn't you be drawing right now, anon?

>>7869040
I don't draw.

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I dont seen/beg/ on the catalog someone link me?

>>7868313
No, but I hope I made the thread.

>>7869022
It’s not that deep. I can’t wait until this board gets over this fixation with “levels” in art, it is so ridiculous.

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>>7869766
>“levels” in art,
art is not that subjective
beauty is not that subjective

There ARE levels, there IS objective beauty, this thread is full /beg/ trash and ugly drawings, only difference is some people are just starting to draw and you guys already wasted years and barely improved.

/beg/ is now better then draw

>>7869797
>there ARE levels

Yes, but they’re not treated as sacred the same way /ic/ treats them. Most people look at art in three levels: beginner, int, pro. This mid, high stuff is exclusive to /ic/. Say “mid-high int” anywhere else online and you will be laughed at.

>there IS objective beauty

Of course. But a beginner can create a beautiful drawing and a professional can create an ugly one. So this isn’t saying anything. I also love that you think so highly of your own opinion that only you can be the one to determine what is or isn’t beautiful.

>this thread is full /beg/ trash and ugly drawings

It’s really not, and this would be hilariously ironic if you’re the same person that posted their work in this thread and say this. You’re not even giving in depth explanations of what makes them bad, you’re just saying they’re bad. It’s like walking into a GameStop and saying “all of these games suck.”

>only difference is some people are just starting to draw and you guys already wasted years and barely improved

Here you go again with the incredibly general statements. You have failed to point out specific anons that you’ve apparently been watching very closely since you know how much they’ve been improving, you just keep parroting this same point. And you want people to improve so badly, well I don’t know, maybe stop shitting on their work? Saying negative things to someone is how you get them to STOP drawing, and yet you constantly come into these threads and say negative things, as if your pessimism will be what inspires these individuals to get better. Be the change you want to see.

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>>7869810
Mandem wrote a post to defend a shit ton of beg tier trash while shitting on someone who actually made it and is obviously now working in the industry.

Hey go be a good Samaritan and stop an ICE agent from arresting someone wont cha?

>>7869766
NTA but lack of standards invariably creates a low quality place which can be disappointing if the place was originally known for being high quality
Not like this is a new thing anyways, the board has been on a downward trajectory since 2016 and is somehow still reaching lower heights in 2026, shocking really

>>7869815
Where was I defending the beg tier work? By saying that being overly critical isn’t achieving anything? And where was I shitting on them? Where in my post did I insult them or their work? I haven’t said a single negative thing about that person’s work.

Also, quit samefagging.

>>7869818
No, I agree. The presence of standards isn’t the problem, the problem is individuals such as that one who feel as if they are the only ones to dictate that standard. Or even a few people. And there’s also the inability to view art in a way that goes beyond rankings

>no works posted in 24 hours, just bitching from shitters and nodraws
Board is dead and it's not because of a lack of skill, but a lack of drawing. Stop feeding this nigger of a troll and just fucking pyw.

>>7869822
it's both.
> Stop feeding this nigger of a troll and just fucking pyw.
but do it after grinding 9999 boxes, please.

>>7869824
Post your work. Surely you have more work than the two things you posted, right?

>>7869826
Those two guys left. You're arguing with a bad-faith retard right now. Seriously, stop giving him attention, you're just giving him what he wants.

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Uhhh guys the fuck are you all talking about

i like ic because i enjoy letting anons take a shit on my face and chest. This is a wonderful place. If it was in bad taste to shit on other peoples drawings, this wouldnt be the ic i know and love. Let the man say his piece. If his shallow words are enough to make you stop drawing, then maybe ic isnt for you or maybe even drawing in general.

but i like i said before, i never felt like i earned the privilege to post in draw, but now its the only general that is left to post in. My very presence is a sign of the quality bar being lowered. It’s not like anyone regulates these things, but it used to be one of those generals that you felt too beg to post in. But now people have no shame and we make do with what we have.

>>7869828
What a cuck thing to say. Nobody owns this shitheap. This place is a festering dump. It's privileged by every person who posts a drawing instead of whining about something.

>>7869829
>This place is a festering dump
Used to be a community of like-minded individuals. Not a Newsground 2.0 where the mentally ill libs can circlejerk their ugly drawings.

Imagine being bullied by dudes making ecco the dolphin screensaver art

>>7869818
Standards matter because the loudest person dictates the culture, not those with the most credibility. If you don't gatekeep spaces on objective merit, newfags will always turn it to shit.

>>7856722
1, 4, and 7
6 is well-designed, but he screams K-Pop star

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I've been using /ic/ since 2018. If there's one thing that's constant, it's the cycle of people showing up here, gradually improving over a few years, and then leaving. I remember when artists like Pantsu Ripper and FireZ posted here. They're long gone.
So I guess we're in a bit of a slump right now. A point where good artists have left and the new people haven't improved enough yet. It will get better again, but it'll take time.

Do I fault people for leaving this place? No. Given the overall reputation that 4chan has, you can't expect people who want to get into the mainstream to stay connected here. Especially now that there's a loli drawing general!? (like WTF, how did we let that happen?? That shit alone has caused a huge chunk of artists to run off for good.)

But I also understand why beginners don't want to post in the /beg/ thread. It's become a ridiculous circle-jerk where critique is no longer the focus. Sure, it's great to have all good art in one place but I don't give a shit if there are some less skilled works in between here. Every piece of human-made art is a plus in the era of AI.
Time to shout out some anons who've stuck around during the years. Tableguy, Dareike, that chick who does super flowy figures (mostly posts in the Tower Girls threads), Raxav, the line art binary tool guy with the werewolf OC and Mike MacRae as well as some others. Seeing your works always elicits a smile. We've been in this hole together for a long time and I feel a sense of camaraderie with you. Even if you probably don't know me.

>>7869828
Shitting on other people’s drawings accomplishes nothing. If he’s frustrated that the bar has lowered, there are more productive ways to say that besides “omg why is there beg trash in my precious draw thread.” Saying “I feel that the standard has lowered and that if many of the anons here worked harder to live up to their full potential, this would be a stronger thread” wouldn’t have upset anyone.

Like the other anon said, the people who actually post drawings are who make the thread, not the faggots that sit and criticize others and won’t post work until they’re made to.

>>7869885
>Given the overall reputation that 4chan has, you can't expect people who want to get into the mainstream to stay connected here
Notch never hide it
Egoraptor sort of
Johntron never hide it
Pizza Tower
Snoot Game
Katakawa Shojo
etc

This is a modern problem but of course you wouldn't get it, /beg/ might as well be called /discord/ general.

>>7869978
>Critique something
>Faggot chimps out in anger

Negative.nu-fags and leftards are not here to get better or be criticized, they are here to draw the most abhorrent dogshit art possible while sucking each others dick. Wasted text falling on deaf ears.

>>7869885
pantsushitter still comes around because he has a fragile ego and constantly egosearchs
I don't think dairenke is that old to be "someone who stuck around"

frankly, /alt/ had a considerably higher quality overall than /draw/, and you actually had big names like don, sketchy, ortamaws... hell, even wakkawa is older and arguably bigger despite his insane dunning-kruger and mindworms.

>>7869990
The reputation of 4chan took a nosedive after 2016 and arguably before that with the stormfags.
before that it was edgy anime/vidya website, nowadays it’s incel neo nazi freak show .

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eekum bokum

>>7869993
>I don't think dairenke is that old to be "someone who stuck around"
Probably true. My saved pics of his only date back to 2020 and it can be debated if he's still around. I really like him though.

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>>7869828
>i enjoy letting anons take a shit on my face and chest
oh wow
>>7870074
Real nice hatching there

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>>7869854
>K-Pop star
I don't mind that too much they are supposed to be male gaze cute (but not too much). I'm more concerned people don't like 4, maybe without his pony tail in the picture he has too much plain Jane energy.

Either way thank you for answering

>>7869828
The critique here isn't even good. That went out the window along with the good artists. Why the fuck would I want some retard /beg/ to throw empty insults at me? I don't value him or his opinion, that shit's just needless masochism for masochism's sake.

lol the schizoid incel neo nazi got triggered

>>7854485
This looks sick, nice job mang

>>7869042
>calls other people's art shit
>doesn't draw
/permabeg/ crab mentality

>>7870383
Your post is rambly, but I totally agree with you. I post on /ic/ because I know I'm gonna get jumped unless I made good art. The hurtbox forces me to git gud or die.
>>7870388
Nice strawman, pussy.
>>7870398
go back to bluesky you filthy immigrant

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>>7870383
Let me just give some examples.
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>>7857920
>>7862464
This isn't just "ur bad gtfo to /beg/ kys >:)", these posts are actually just straight up posts that belong in /beg/. Scribbles, extremely glaring basic fundamental problems, extremely basic beginner questions. Again, that's not being mean. That's not saying that you're bad. That's LITERALLY what /beg/ is for, for working on problems of and relating to fundamental skill and posting your progress on improving them. Even /int/ were herded into there for that purpose and to incentivize people of higher skill level to help beginners. It's primarily a learning/progress thread. This thread is for posting work. A certain floor level of skill level and *completeness and polish* should be expected here.There are posts here that are still pretty /beg/ that are at least fairly complete and polished pieces and they aren't asking "how do I shot web" tier questions with really obvious answers like
>what is wrong with my anatomy (has glaring basic anatomy errors, this is fixed by studying anatomy more)
>why is my drawing so stiff and uncanny (literally just into gesture drawing and practice drawing facial expressions more)
>why is my drawing so flat (can barely into loomis and doesn't understand basic perspective)
>i can draw from reference but my imagination drawings are bad I don't know what to do <:( (just crack open fun with a pencil damn it, fucks sakes)
Again. Nothing wrong with /beg/ questions, I'm not trying to be mean, we were all there at some point, all that happy horseshit. I can't stress enough that I really, really, really hate to be mean and I actually don't want to hurt people's feelings and crush their hopes and dreams especially when they mean well. But there is A THREAD FOR THAT FUCKING UUUUUUSE IT PLEASE AAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>7870383
>I post in sketch/doodle, sketchbook, and /beg/int/ because that's where my art belongs, peruod
/pol/tards are never ever beating the "right wingers can only draw loomis heads poorly" allegations kek

Does this board have no moderation at all? Something needs to be done about this freak. Literally derailing a thread for 3 days straight now.

>>7870410
Thanks m8

>>7870435
If this board had moderation we'd all be Frazettas, Yoh Yoshinaris, John Singer Sargents by now
The answer is no

>>7870447
I know right? Your art, which I'm sure you've posted, is waaay better than any chudcel.

lol that nigga still mad, imagine how mad that nigga gonna be when he cant get his insulin kek

>>7870435
The thread got derailed because one (1) anon complained about /beg/posting in the general that specifically says not to /beg/post and that made a lot of people mad. I'm not that anon, btw. But I felt I should say something seeing the absurd pushback against daring to suggest there be any form of curation at all.

>>7870460
You are a mad foreverbeg venting and soapboxing because you can't draw or create on a fundamental level, and therefore choose to destroy, and it's hilarious to me. Miserable loser. You will continue to lose while other people get shit done.

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>I heckin' love drawfagging!

>>7870469
Were you afraid you'd get bullied for this? Is that why it took you so long to post, and stop being a bitter ironic faggot? God, this website is a mental institution.

>>7870473
this website is a dead nigger site or something like that

>>7870473
>>7870469
That isn't me, your blatant samefagging fools no one.

>>7870484
Too late for take-backs, you've been outed, begtard. You're still welcome here provided you actually post art.

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Posting everywhere here since it is not making numbers on X like my other art despise me spending more time as usual on it :/

>>7870460
It’s the way that it was said, not that they said it. You walk into the thread and act like an obnoxious jerk, you get treated like one. Like I said before, if they felt that the beg posting was an issue, there were more constructive ways to say that without speaking down on other users

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>>7870074

>>7866674
To anyone wondering how it started, this was the first post. It got ignored by most.
And then they didn’t get the attention they wanted so they said

>>7867703

>>7870516
>there were more constructive ways to say that
No there aren't.
What are you supposed to do? Fix the begs? That doesn't work, that's why 99% of them are begs. You can't fix them, they are incapable of improving. You either tell them to fuck off, or give up on having standards. Oh pretty please mr beg sir, if only you wouldn't have a delusional view of proficiency that would be great and we could all get along and stay in our own threads. That shit doesn't work. They had to turn the beg thread into beg&int because so many of them want to pretend they aren't trash.

>>7870531
Nobody is incapable of improvement. What a stupid thing to say. And yes, there are more constructive ways to tell others that their work does not belong in this thread. Nobody said anything about “fixing” the begs. And like I said before, if you didn’t say nonsense such as others are incapable of improving, you would think that you would be smart enough to see that your criticism isn’t gonna help them get better. But you clearly aren’t.

>>7870534
>Nobody is incapable of improvement
That's an awfully naive thing to say in /ic/ of all places.

>>7870509
I looked through your stuff, you have /beg/ soul. People like your art because it seems like a /beg/ is trying his best and that gives you soul. Actually attempting to put out high effort stuff is contrary to what makes people like your work. You are going to have to power through that or embrace a shit scribbles style

>>7870540
I see.
Well, then it's on me then.
Nah. Scribbles forever. As long as I can show an image I'm thinking, it doesn't need to be perfect or next level skill.

>>7870534
>And yes, there are more constructive ways to tell others that their work does not belong in this thread
X

>>7870624
just us ai then unironically

Why not just make a new /alt/ so people stop fighting in here?

>>7870701
Its one faggot. You do whatever you want. We had fugi arguing he wanted more posters here, hence the beg influx

>>7870636
No. It's fun to draw.

>>7870718
There were just as many begs before that, this isn't a new thing

might as well rip the bandaid off and merge asg too while we're at it

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gimme some good old critique

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>>7870806
I'm a huge fan of Bocchi, very nice.
>>7871168
Don't really have any, you have a good balance of negative space and positive space, Maybe refine a little more and stop?

I tried to draw the moon exactly how I saw it out my window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFTRXi-jbQY

>>7871168
You should incorporate a mix of both hard and soft edges in your rendering. Makes the values seem less defined too.

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>>7854173

>>7871353
kool (with a k)

>>7871391
Thancs (with a c)

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>>7861991
5cm tall thumbnail from imagination

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>>7871064
>asg
We need a real anime thread, copying belongs to /beg/

The fact that there is NO anime thread on the anime board is a crime against humanity. I don't want to see this garbage
>>7871417
>>7871353
>>7871168
>>7870806

I want to see ANIME on the ANIME WEBSITE. I swear the entire board is a psyop against people that actually want to get better.

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>>7871460
This isn't asg though

>>7871461
read nigga read

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>>7871463
start /oag/ then - original anime drawings

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>>7871466
NO U
I'm too mentally BASED to create a general

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>>7871468
I'm not the one complaining

If I start drawing autisticslly Street fighter characters will I get better at drawing

>>7870299
>tfw I liked 4
Feels good to be right desu

>>7871505
If every time you draw you correctly identify what part of your drawing is the worst part and iterate and improve upon that, then yes!

>>7871460
Yeah keep seething instead of learning how to draw you weeb retard

>>7871353
Love the brushwork bro, saved for future study. What size paper did you use?

>>7871460
Lmao you just cannot be satisfied man. There are skulls and fish in anime, boom.

>>7871531
Thank you so much. This is in ballpoint pen btw, but it can for sure be painted, I’m just saying. Paper size is 8.5 by 11. You’d be surprised how much you can fit on there

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thoughts?

>>7871597
Good figure overall

Shower is very lazy

Widen her hips and make her vagina less wide

Don’t skimp on hands

Ear is anatomically incorrect and boring

Background could stand to tell more of a story

>>7871606
there is something weird about her hips but making them even wider was a last thing to try... and it occurred to me that her special area doesnt follow perspective of the room

i drew fingers and later added curls bcs thats an established part of her design. a bit unfortunate but i can move that one hand towards the middle.

ear anatomically incorrect? as in its implied "root" being wrongly placed?

i am thankful for the feedback!

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>>7871471
This is a phase, drawn in April 2019, not the kind of drawing I would do now at all.
You're picture reminded me of mine is all.

>>7871471
So calling garbage pieces will continue until the dead board is deader.

>>7871630
This is fucking horrible and it has nothing to do with the expression, fucking abhorrent drawing.

>>7871630
Now, unpaid if course

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ji3fgSFEyKU?si=h08QGE9WNzsctmnM