why is he made of chocolate

>>7857505
highly recommend resource for artist starting out. it really leveled up my art.

Temu Dynamic Sketching

>>7857505
I don't like brown people.

>>7857517
...how is this related to drawing?

>>7857505
drawabox is only good for exercises

you're honestly better off drawing and studying boxes found in real life: dressers, chests, cabinets, beds, couches, houses, cars, shoes, books, speakers, game consoles, etc.

Not a /beg/ but he uses way too many words to explain a very simple concept. You can replace his entire website with that one page tutorial Tracy Butler made.

>>7857525
it's for autists that need everything explained

>>7857525
Care to post the tutorial?

>>7857534
https://lackadaisy.com/how-to-draw.php

And as a bonus:

https://lackadaisy.com/how-to-paint.php

>>7857542
thank you!

I think he helped me understand form a little bit more, but the real value is that it filters all the no-hopers by forcing you to actually do boring practice

is lesson 2 worth checking out?

>>7857525
This. Also it's boring as fuck and seems like it's designed to make you hate drawing. Literally any other course or tutorial I've tried, even when I didn't find it particularly fun, was infinitely more engaging and tolerable than this shit.

>>7857505
A single look at his "artwork" should tell you all you need to know about whether he knows jackshit about drawing

>>7857519
The creator of drawabox is brown.
Hence his course is shit, hope that helps.

>>7857694
Holy shit it's bad. He's a total beg. Not even intermediate

>>7857528
No wonder it's so popular here

>>7857694
This. The artist's finished work should be the main metric you use to gauge the usefulness of a course to you. All courses are just different ways of doing the same shit, there's no way to know if it will help you without trying it. So you might as well just pick one from an artist whose style appeals to you and stick with it.

>>7857694
That doesn’t really apply here since his course is just a more kid-friendly version of the dynamic sketching curriculum

>>7857715
Do you have finished work? No? 99% of people starting out do not. Then you’re in no place to judge him; you’re in the position to get humbled until you surpass him.

>>7857723
>starting out
What? Irshad is an established artist. But he sucks, I don't want to learn from someone who sucks, and so his course will not be taken seriously by me. I really don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>7857726
only Da Vinci himself is good enough to be your teacher, right? And he has to do it for free too kek. Goddamn you’re stupid

It's clear to me Irshad has strong fundamentals, but what his art lacks is appeal, which is a different skill from form and rendering. As long as you look at artists that you want to emulate, I think you should be fine if you do his course. But to be honest, I recommend Dynamic Sketching more, as it's less intensive, time consuming and more succinctly explained.

>>7857730
I have standards, if you want to learn from that soulless jeet then by all means buy his course and enjoy drawing your boxes

As someone who had finished all the main lesson, with at least receiving one critique before progressing except for the last one (drawing vehicle), I personally do not recommend it. Or that if you do want to do it, just do half of what the assignment is telling you to do.

It took me like 3-4 years on and off to finish it due to how dry it is, even with the 50 percent draw rule. It is much better to go to the video course thread, pick a title that sounds interesting, and draw while going through the course slowly. The if you finish one you can jump to another course or just continue drawing. The rule that you need to have confident line while not having any mistake is almost impossible. Many of my lines are confident, but they feel very stiff after going through all the exercise. Not to mention that the “community critique” or official are very very critical in a way that if your drawing don’t end up good or clean (because you can’t erase your mistake due to using fineliners) they will slam your drawing and told you to redo it over and over again. Sure, you can try the official critique, but I ain’t giving them money. This is especially apparent starting the plant lesson. Not to mention that community critique is slow, and tbe only way to guarantee one is to join the discord and critique 5 others from a google sheet before they critique yours.

Most that recommend drawabox are those artist that are already good or have years of drawing behind. If you wanna do it, just cut the exercise by half or until you get bored.

>>7857505
I have no experience in it. After seeing the owner's art, I experienced diarrhea instead.

>>7857730
>>7857736
in one hand, I agree that it's good to have standards, in the other hand too high standards might delay you in just draw and studying from only the very best at the starting level might be a bit overwhelming since your technical skill is leagues below to them and your stuff will always look much worse.

you guys remind me of my art trauma, I was doing studies of Loomis Proko and Hampton but I still couldn't even do a single guideline alone on my own, I had a friend who was constantly asking me if I was doing Mikeymegamega tutorials and said no because he always seemed to draw like shit to me even at my earliest stage and he told me I should do them because I never drawn in my life and I don't know step one in the how to, things like "start with a circle, that circle is your head" "don't worry, you just started" I did them so he would just shut the fuck up but instead it was like "now you know the rules of the game, and now you have to workout to improve them""you just learned how to walk now and you're trying to run a 10 mile marathon"

Ok, yeah, I admit I improved a bit from doing real time follow along step by step simplified tutorials rather than trying to copy loomis profesional art from books or doing the time-lapsed demostrations of Proko of his head course, but fuck him so much, as if Mikey is the only true in the universe in learning how to draw? if you do anything that isn't Mikey tutuorials it means you've never drawn anything in your life?

In the end I got sick of his shit and left, he said he was trying to help me, but what he calls help is being a condescending piece of shit towards anything that doesn't involve forcing on you his homoerotic fantasies of having Mikey's testicles in his mouth as much as he does.

But point is, yeah a not so good artist with slower simplified explanations might help you if you're in a very beg level and you're struggling with simple things when trying to learn from very high level artists.

>>7857505
His website, sure.
Dont go to the subreddit thoughever.

>>7857505
He failed to realize that Dynamic Sketching isn't really for absolute /begs/, but he tries to sell DaB as being for absolute begs without adjusting the curriculum. He completely needs to rethink how he starts people off because it turns out the 50/50 rule sounds nice on paper but people leave section 1 of the program afraid to make their own work worried that they may not be drawing in their free time the right way. If people going through your curriculum have no drive to play and experiment because they think they need the appropriate amount of Fundies to have fun drawing than your a shit teacher

>>7857845
Which courses don't have this problem?

>>7857845
>He failed to realize that Dynamic Sketching isn't really for absolute /begs/, but he tries to sell DaB as being for absolute begs without adjusting the curriculum

When you say that kind of thing you should tell what is absolute beginners stuff then. If DaB isn't absolut beg then what you think is absolute beg?

Even art curriculums from art colleges and online platforms based on art colleges like ArtCenter college design and CGMA respectively start their curriculum with a syllabus on perspective and one in Dynamic sketching

>>7857860
Not that guy. But can a beginner even draw a reasonable circle, ellipse, boxes, etc.? I watched Peter Han videos, and he started with those. And then the weird organic form + contour lines. It’s just too much for someone who just picked up a pencil.

>>7857863
that's why I said the FIRST lessons of Han and DaB ore the beginner stuff where he makes you grind a bunch of circles and boxes when you can't even draw the simplest of shapes.
if you're tired of repeating those lessons over and over but still can't do even simple shapes you might try to do first Brent Eviston lessons on the art science of drawing, Yves Yumol absolute beginners or NMA introduction to drawing for beginners. Maybe watts Atelier drawing fundamentals phase I II but I last time I tried Watts fundies it kicked my ass so I really don't recommend it for beginners neither

>>7857860
>If DaB isn't absolut beg then what you think is absolute beg?

Pretty much what you'd get taught at some 101 art class in a community college. Drawing still life, measuring with the pencil, tone, basic perspective, values, and then putting it all together for a final project training your hand and eye coordination. I think that's more valuable starting out than jumping head first into draw a box because it's a shit test to see if you like drawing or not.

If you start with DAB it'll only make you hate yourself and quit. If when you realize you suck at drawing boxes then you use DAB. You don't have to listen to everything Ishrad says, you don't have to do his challenges, and you don't have to spend money on sharpie pens.

>>7857865
I meant, how can you grind if your circles, etc. are really bad?

>>7857866
I live very far away of the city on a third world country, can't really go to a community college for art class 101 and even paid courses in some colleges in the main city of my country I'll say they look like crap IMHO, care to tell me if there are simple online class alternatives similar to DaB or watts atelier drawing fundamentals phases that cover everything that you say for people that can't go to class?.

>>7857869
hmm, I don't know what to tell you if you can't even grind circles, Han and Irshad both try to tell you how to hold the pen when they show you that you have to grind the lines and circles, if you're not convinced with their approach on holding the pen to grind that stuff maybe try checking how Brent Eviston teaches you to grind circles and allipses with his whole arm using a pencil on the first videos of his art science of drawing series, other alternatives are Heather lenefsky on nma, or artwod beg fundamentals course

>>7857875
>care to tell me if there are simple online class alternatives similar to DaB or watts atelier drawing fundamentals phases that cover everything that you say for people that can't go to class?

New masters academy maybe? I think going in person is different, though. Having a teacher clarify how to set up an easel, sharpen pencils, what to look out for when drawing the still life and what not was a different experience. While they would just play videos off of youtube the instructor paused it and chimed in his own 2 cents so you're not left confused. And seeing other people work on their stuff in close proximity was nice. But I think the most value was just realizing how in the zone you can be. I would get into class by 6PM and the teacher would have us JUST DRAW all the way up to 9PM with a small break somewhere in between.

So from there you'd realize you can actually draw for long periods at a time really early on. But yeah, any basic course should be fine as an alternative.

>>7857505
It's ok. Dynamic sketching but free. Many people don't like the challenges and get filtered by them, but they are incredibly easy.

>>7857933
Been wanting to go to one almost my whole life but haven't found a single one in Buenos Aires in which all "instructor paintings" look more like smudges of paint by a kindergarden, and it's the main city of my country, other cities most likely don't even have ateliers for the most part since most population is centered in the capital and for the most part when you need something like doctors or college you most likely will end up travelling to the capital, I hate living on the third world

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>>7857505
For reference I'm what the kids call low /int/. This was the go-to for people back in the 2010s. "Do Drawabox!"

I quit doing art for 9 years because I was convinced that the overly formulaic, autistic aspects of art found in drawabox were the make it or break it key to art. I became so demoralized by spamming boxes and not actually doing anything fun (this is back before he "refined" the course by saying stuff like 'make your own art now!'). The prevailing mindset was "if you can't draw perfect perspective boxes, you'll NEVER make anything!" Ironically, doing DS brought me back into the fold in a way that was infinitely less autistic.

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>>7857969
i honestly think forcing begs to be able to freehand elipses and cubes in perfect perspective is a mistake, rulers and stencils exist for a reason, there's no shame in not being able to freehand them as a beginner, you can gain an intuition for what a cube should look like by doing a lot of boxes and shit using tools.
every artist before computers had a shit ton of tools for drawing curves and shit, and all modern drawing software also has tolls for perspective grids and ellipses and whatever else you need.

>>7857976
No, see, if you can't freehand a circle, there's no point to even beginning. If you can't do the 200 box challenge with perfect perspective you're NGMI. You can't even try. Art isn't supposed to be fun. It's like a chore. It's like installing furniture. What, you don't like installing furniture? I guess you're lazy. I guess you're NGMI. You CAN'T paint fruit. You CAN'T draw anime girls. Just draw a box.

how hard is it to draw 200 boxes. Shit takes like a week if you're consistent.

>>7857969
What is DS?

>>7858010
dynamikkk sketching

>>7857505
oh so creator is brown ? now it makes sense why course is so shit... fucking nigger.

>>7858086
A brown is more rich than you. And this pains you deeply.

>>7858097
He is rich wooow.
Now my whole world crumbled by he is more wealthy then im what im going to do... oh noes... bruh. I would rather eat potatoes all day then be a fucking nigger.

>>7858099
the seethe is delectable

>>7858104
Sure is brownoid.

>>7858106
so mad. and /beg/, too.

It's one of the best free courses out there, honestly.
Unfortunately for him the paid stuff has torrents now so there's no reason to not just download everything and cherry pick the things you like.

>>7857976
>>7857992
>retards who can't even handle freehanding lines and circles thinks they can get good by drawing ass and tiddies
Don't bother with the pyw. You're worthless just like all the AIsloppers out there

>>7858099
thank god you will die alone

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>>7858141
If you draw guns, cars, fruit, asses and tiddies 200 times you'll literally be doing the same thing as DAB but 9000x more fun. You'll also be training observation which is equally as important, if not moreso, than mindless box construction which produces trash artwork like pic related. Maybe "trash" is too strong, but we'll call it "uninspired."

>>7858301
Is the real reason he made drawabox because he has a cube fetish?

>>7858097
>>7858104
Only browns defend browns on an anonymous board, you fucking brown

why is a /beg/ replying to me

>>7858301
I tell you what, those are creatively bankrupt, but goddamn if I've never seen better cubes than in that bottom one. They look like they could be 3d models

>>7858470
This anon clearly doesn't draw boxes

>>7857525
Real shit. DAB is truly a beg trap that has lasted the test of time though, I wish I came up with it myself. It's such a perfect way of scamming beginners.

>>7857517
>I don't like brown people.
how to tell people that you are homo without telling them.

>>7858563
>Defending browns using subtle but unmistakable ESL language
How to tell people you're brown without telling them

>>7858566
doesn't change the fact that brown haters are all homosexuals!

>>7857523
nature is the best teacher. train your eyes and mind to see it. DO NOT COPY OTHER ARTISTS, COPY FROM THE SOURCE (REALITY)

>>7857505
The first 3 videos were alright.
It was all about learning how to draw a straight line and a good circle/shape. I was searching about Accuracy control and Line control and his video came up to me, the excercises he provided were nice, thats all I needed from him.

It's like a great filter for those who can think and those who cannot, the other videos from him are a test of common sense, to figure out what is shit and what is not. And the rest of it were all bullshit.

>>7858566
You live in a trailer park I live in a wealthy Jewish neighborhood. Mald more.

>>7858663
>t. self hating mizrahi jew

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>day 1727 of drawing boxes and circles

Does this guy legitimately have autism or what? I thought muh asian jeans was a cheat code. And no, the illustrations on the side on the right is what he made nearly 5 FIVE
>5
years ago.

>>7857860
>>7857863
>>7857976
I have an interest in old art instruction books, particularly British and American books from the 19th century. I collect and study them. A lot of these works were aimed at schools, to provide a sort of curriculum to teach drawing to children, as well as students of trades that require drawing skill (such as industrial design and architecture), but were also sold as courses of self-study for anyone wanting to learn. Something almost all of them have in common is that they start with drawing short, straight lines. First horizontal, then vertical, then oblique. The student is instructed to draw two points, marking the start and end of the line, and then to connect the points. This is all done by eye. The horizontals and verticals should be parallel to their respective edges of the paper, and the paper should not be turned. As the course progresses, the lines are made longer and grouped in various ways to make simple designs. Then curves are introduced, using straight lines (which have been mastered by this point) to rule and judge each curve. Everything is done freehand. It seems VERY basic compared to the stuff in these video courses, and yet most people here would struggle with these basic tasks. The aim is training the eye and hand to a high degree of accuracy, proficiency and judgement. And think about it: If you can't draw a square freehand, how much harder is it to draw a box in perspective, or a human head or figure? I think a big source of frustration for beginners is the unrealistic expectation of rapid advancement, and the disappointment that comes when there isn't a solid foundation for what is being attempted.

>>7858796
you can get pretty far with just observation skills, mindlessly drawing boxes wont do shit for those. also boxes are pretty fucking easy to draw, if you havent hit a plateau after half an hour then you might be a retard

Some of the early tasks are pretty good for newfags and/or long time doodlers with no actual theory. A lot of people are habitual finger/wrist drawers and it's never even occurred to them there is any other way to do it.

However, the teacher is a seething sensitive cry baby bitch to the point it comes across in the material, and also quite a bad artist, the website is dogwater. The extremely autistic fixation on doing things exactly as he commands, and him crying and pissing his pants if you deviate is just kind of pathetic and probably has filtered many would-be artists.

Anything good about it is just watered down dynamic sketching.

>>7857723
This mindset is retarded. If your goal is to shoot a bow accurately, you're not going to take advice from the guy who's landing shots vaguely near the target just because he's fired some shots, you're going to the guy who can hit it.

>>7858945

>if you [totally made up "what if" scenario that will never ever happen in your life ever] metaphor for an activity that doesn't require a life and death situation

Did you think your post through?

>>7858949
are you esl or just retarded?

>>7858951

Come on now, formulate a sentence worth responding to. You can do it. Ganbarou!

>>7858953
If you went to an archery range, and two people were shooting, one of which was wildly missing, and the other was regularly hitting the target, which would you ask to instruct you? You think simply because he is shooting, and you don't even know how to hold a bow, the inaccurate one is a valid teacher? Retard. Kill yourself.

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>>7858957
I'd ask the archery range staff and not bother strangers practicing on their own. I expected you not to respond back after seeing how dumb your comparison is but you left me surprised.

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>op is asking begs specifically
>suddenly everyone replying is an /adv/

>>7859169
/beg/s don't know shit

>>7858796
>>7858925
pyb

>>7858963
Please consult the last three words of >>7858957

brown thread

>>7859232
>>7859169
wdym? everyone here is a beg
otherwise we'd be drawing

>>7858149
seethe more brownoid...

>>7859301
Kill yourself no draw faggot bumping a useless thread

>>7857517
Unironically a good rule of thumb for life

>>7859383
You are still brown and it's not going to change... that's a life. Being nigger is hard but you chimp out on public few times and get begged by ICE and be deported to your homeland Africa.

>>7859169
We were all /begs/ at one point.

>>7859253
I consulted with your mother instead.

>>7859426

>is hard

In the soul lottery I consider I won all things considered. And it definitely wasn't an accident, God loves fun games.

>>7859426
I am Indian you negro, and soon we will do what inbred white suparmacits failed to do with your kind and ship you on a boat to west africa.

>>7857694
It's actually awful, I can't believe someone like him preaches this much

I'm 10 boxes into the 250 box challenge. Should I keep going or do you think DAB is not worth doing?

I dropped it in the box challenge. I think part of the problem was at the time I tried to go too hard and immediately added a couple other courses on top and burnt out. It's both bloated and also kind of too much of an overview on some topicsm but the right topics are there and I think if you had the right mentality to experiment with the concepts outside the lessons and genuinely used the 50 50 rule you'd come out with a good base even if it's probably not the best course ever. I think a lot of people just don't know how to learn and the course doesn't give them good direction on how to bring these ideas into projects. I think too many people think you need to earn the artistic right to make things and end up knowing a ton of nuts and bolts art concepts only to realize they're still at step one learning to use those tools to make things.

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>>7860937
If you can do it, do it. It challenges the shoulder muscles and hand eye co-ordination more than anything and you will have better control over your lines as a result (with or without the shoulder drawing)
I drew 5 boxes per session (1 page a day) when I was doing it a while ago. Finished it in 3 months despite doing Inktober at the same time and slacking off for several days at a time.
Box 51~100 is the hardest, since it's really hard to estimate convergence points at a long distance and the back corners will always look off as a result.
If that bothers you a lot than I suggest drawing the back-corner edge first. That will give BOTH of your converging sides someplace to lock on to. Don't be afraid to use a ruler to check how far you're off from the convergence

>>7857505
This guy sucks ass and dick at the same Indian time. Ask yourself: who do you want to draw like? Is it this ugly retard? No? Then go find the person you want to draw like, and copy until you do.

>>7858141
That fucking Indian tard uses his fucking tablet to erase, smudge and lasso in his own fucking tutorials because he's actually that fucking bad, and then tells people to do it in ink, so he can scam retards into staying on his stolen course. Why Peter Han hasn't raped this kid yet is a mystery.

>>7857505
his site gave me the courage to not give up on my art journey when i was a n00b just starting out, i think i just did 1 page each for the first lessons, which was tedious and boring, and move straight to drawing bugs, and realized how easy it is to draw.

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>>7861178
>Why peter han hasn't raped this kid yet is a mystery

I don't know why this made me laugh this hard

>>7857857
NTA but in my opinion a beginner should start with a book like Keys to Drawing, this will quickly make them able to draw more than stickmen.
If you start with only DAB and no one to tell you the very basics (Aka : trust your eye more than your brain when you begin) you will just waste your time making stickmen and cubemen in your free time.

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>>7857505
He's made of fecal matter

>>7858457
Then how do you explain self loathing browns who despise their own race

>>7862555
that is a good way to go about it. But man I gotta get to doing keys to drawing, I skimmed through it and some of the exercises looked pretty weird

>>7857505
There are some good exercises, but I think that many parts are inefficient.

>>7858097
>he's richer than you
literally who cares if he'll never stop being a dogshit artist after ALL that effort?

>>7858097
>rich
Irshart is notorious for begging like DarkSydePhil, he's not a new character. Rich? The dude is a help desk jeet with a patreon. He's poor as shit, he fucking lives in Canada. Anyone with a first world salary could crush that joke with their wallet. And he draws like shit, the dude is exactly what you imagine you get if you imagined an Indian trying to fucking teach something, ie a retarded bitter scammer selling stolen goods he doesn't even understand.

>>7857860
I've been trying to figure out the words for what bothers me about DaB. Because people gain valuable technical skills, but have no idea how to make the things they originally set out to. I think my main critiques are that it's looks at art purely as a technical process with no concern for the aesthetic qualities. If it was clear that you're learning tools to make it easier to analyze subjects within your quick sketches I think It'd be less of a niggle for me. That's what dynamic sketching teaches, right? The ability to analyze objects to build your visual library, not to make finished pieces. To the DaB curriculum a line makes a shape a shape makes a form etc. they don't justify aesthetic concerns, they're just a step in the process. Maybe I'm off base, I didn't do the whole curriculum that's the the off putting vibe I got

>>7861174
When I first started drawing in school all I did was like everyone else i.e. just copy whichever artist's artwork that you like, or draw whatever your favorite character is. There's not really any of that "How to get good in drawing" until I'm like already drawing for 2-3 years in and naturally improved. The time when I 'seriously' started drawing is 5-6 years in and that's when social media starts coming in (deviantart circa 2014 era, I dont think twitter was that popular back then). I think with everyone trying to min-max their art to get the most amount of likes comes with "How do I get good at art fast" mentality.

>>7858764
bro if you need 120 days to draw lines that arent even straight the fuck are you even doing with your life? your not getting better at drawing thats for sure!

why cant he just draw something that is actually challenging or fun to draw for 120 days instead? why is he wasting his time on this boring ass shit?

>>7862952
I havent a clue. Hes legitimately brain dead. I've been watching him since his first week and it seemed like he wanted to get good at learning English, music and art but as time went on all he kept doing was boxes and lines and now here we are. At first I thought maybe he was just doing these warm ups in the morning before serious illustration but then I checked his pixiv and nothing. No art elsewhere, just that youtube channel. AND HE IS KOREAN. He could just walk into some cafe and learn from industry pros at night after work. Loads of them in his country.

So I'm leaning on legit autism. There was one other guy (lady) in a discord I was in who posted circles every single day for 3 years straight with 1 furry head sketched to the side every now and then but she never got better. Later I come to find she literally did have diagnosed autism.

>>7862960
I do have a degree of diagnosed legit Asperger but I still got a job and I'm controlling it to some extent, and I still practice every day, you making me feel like just because my condition I'll never draw, but I still have faith and I'm not doing only lines and circles, I do construction anatomy and longer studies from different styles so I think if I keep going I'll be able to draw someday.

>>7863011
This is why you'll never learn to draw, because you've set an arbitrary "permission point" where it's considered drawing. Someone who starts this way goes nowhere.

>>7859169
/int/'s typically have more knowledge than /beg/'s

>>7863011
dafuq you mean by permission point, and if you think practising lines is autism and doing figure drawing gestures, anatomy and longer studies from references is also autist and it's not considered drawing, then what the fuck you consider drawing? only still life fruits is drawing or you're going to tell me that's also autist and no drawing? make some sense or explain yourself instead of just throwing shit everywhere, it makes no sense

>>7863011
Why are you responding like you’re either of the 2 people I’m talking about? Unless you come to /ic/? Small world if true.

>>7863011
Don't worry, I didn't think autistic people make it less often than anyone else. They're just more entertaining when they crash out or spiral into permabegdom. Sorry

>>7858764
Just one more box bro, trust me bro, one more box and I will know how to draw everything...
One more box... please... broo ... Just let me draw one more box

>>7863030
0 ability to parse information, too emotional to proofread. Just. Quit.

>>7861210
no one asked talented rat

>>7863011
>but I still have faith and I'm not doing only lines and circles, I do construction anatomy and longer studies from different styles so I think if I keep going I'll be able to draw someday.
In my life, I've been around quite a few people with autism, I myself am on the spectrum, even one of my best friends has Aspergers, and I've also taught a few, one with Infantile Autism. They are all different, but you want to know something? Like with regular people, the majority do actually make something of themselves. My best friend, as an example, used to be an architect before becoming a maths teacher. He, you guessed it, also likes to draw, like with a lot of other people. Do you want to know how? He, and many others, got over themselves and just drew whatever they liked, like regular people.
I might be older than quite a few people on this board, but I know a thing or two about pussies, and you're just a pussy filled with excuses. This is not a "back in my day", some autists, like with neurotypicals, can also just be pussies, and they'll cry about anything, or they'll lie to themselves to cope.
Just fucking draw something other than boxes and lines, it's not that hard.

>>7866025
>He, and many others, got over themselves and just drew whatever they liked, like regular people.
>and you're just a pussy filled with excuses

I'm literally saying I'm not only doing boxes and circles and I do Figure drawing and anatomy because that's what I like to draw, and also a few studies of anime and comics characters that I like, the heck did that come from if I am quite literally doing and encouraging exactly what you are saying?.

Despite the misinterpratation, I still feel thankful to you, thanks, I at least found someone that doesn't tell me because of how I am I'm not going to be albe to draw.

Also good for your friend being an architect and then math teacher, I'm an engineer in materials science doing research using ionizing radiation for polymer processing, and I still draw whenever I have a break on my job or when I go back home.

>>7862555
Nah, id choose brent eviston's beginner course over ktd.

If youre a lazy fag like me, of course.

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>>7868015
I finished the first part of evistons course and I'm a bit confused, I though he was gonna elaborate on how to make the bird from part 1 look more finished and elaborate on the details but part 2 is a whole different thing.

Whats up with that?

Peter Han's exercises but taught by someone who's not a good teacher. Just pirate the Peter Han videos or look them up on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f312sDwg770&list=PLqR-aNpyEIVd91GCwsyOS3oRn6eoRhyio

>>7857517
Wow, that's cool.

>>7857517
But did I ask?

>>7857505
Total dogshit. I tried it and it caused me to quit drawing for years after. If something is so boring and tedious that it causes you to quit, it's worse than just doodling randomly.

And yeah, you need to be able to draw shapes to do construction, but you can practice that by just doing construction. Spamming boxes forever is not productive in any way.

Honestly, people need to trace more. Trace a good drawing, copy it, deconstruct it, draw it from memory, study the work of actually good artists. Stop slamming your head against a wall trying to improve by brute force when you can just see how it should be done. Even writers used to transcribe works of literature to better their skills.

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>everyone ITT: wahhh boxes boring brown man bad
>me, trying to draw a textured piece of bread for lesson 2 part 3:

>>7857505
This indian's art is woefully unappealing. There are better people to learn from who also aren't stinky jeet mutts, which is a nice bonus.

>>7857505
I have no idea what that is

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>>7857505
I started 4 days ago and I'm still at lesson 1 because I have other stuff to do, but it's good so far. Lesson 0 tell wise things about mentality, expectation, pacing, and the 50% rule, which helped me stop consooming tutorials and just draw and to expect mistake. Lesson 1 is about marking and I feel like I'm already getting a return on my investment. pic related; no chicken scratching and serviceable line work.

Well, in my experience, it worked quite well, but i had to try several times because i didnt fell that was working. But for some reason, after a lot o time it started to work. I didnt do all the chalenges, i copied a lot of his drawings until i could understand, skipped the texture video, used normal pencil, althought using pen helped me to see my mistakes. I'm glad i keeped with it, and i was a complete talentless/skillless/useless retard and now i can draw quite good. But dont know if is for everybody.

>>7858764
Who's the artist in the video?