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I am planning to go to a historical art museum with a group of friends and do some sketchbooking, using the paintings and statues on-site as references. The plan is that we'll do several 15-30 minute sketching blocs and meet between blocs to give feedback/thoughts.

I suggested that we don't bring pencils, but sketch directly with pens/markers/paint to train eye-hand coordination. Is that a good idea? Do you have any tips on how we can get as much out of this trip as possible?
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>>7864895
>I suggested that we don't bring pencils, but sketch directly with pens/markers/paint to train eye-hand coordination
it's a good idea if you've already been practicing that for a good amount of time and for some reason want to draw directly despite it being a completely useless, performative skill
otherwise, you're wasting a trip awkwardly attempting something you haven't worked on for literally no benefit
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>>7864895
>with a group of friends and do some sketchbooking
First of; fuck you, super jealous.
Secondly; it might be a good idea to make space for however people prefer to make art. There's a massive difference between rendering in gouache, pencils, charcoals, and pen. Similar to what the other anon said, each requires a different set of skills to train. Limiting what tools you can use just isn't fun for most people. It might be a fun challenge, but I'd leave it up to the others.
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>>7864895
make sure if your museum would allow wet tools
you'll realize 15-30 minutes isn't a long time but have fun
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>>7864942
>make sure if your museum would allow wet tools
Seconding this. In the Met in NYC, for example, they only allow pencils. No paint, charcoal, markers, etc.

When I visit museums, I usually head to the statues and sketch while the rest of my group wanders. I think your plan with your friends is excellent.
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>>7864895
>>7864905
Using a permanent medium is useful to force yourself to think more and be more deliberate with every stroke, but like the other anon says, don't try to oneshot everything and don't try to immediately "make a pretty picture", you won't learn as much. Check out Peter Han's dynamic sketching for this.
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>>7864895
Providing art students the opportunity to draw from the original is actually one of the responsibilities of a museum. Some museums have forgotten that, but most will gladly comply and a lot of them will also allow oil paints if you talk with them and come to an arrangement. I was in the Pinakothek in Munich recently and not only they allowed me to draw, but they were glad to hear that offered me chairs that they have reserved for artists. We artists tend to be shy and always feel we are invading spaces when we try to draw from life. In his case the museum has to serve us, it is their duty. As unimportant as our work might feel to us, we also have a duty to use everything that the teachers of the past have provided for us.
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>>7865470
wait until you fond out what custodians are actually for
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>>7864895
Call up the museum ahead of time and see if they allow anyone other than pencil. I've had to toss pens I've brought into museums. Natural History Museums haven't bothered me about it, but art museums tend to be more strict for obvious reason
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>>7864895
>I suggested that we don't bring pencils, but sketch directly with pens/markers/paint
>>7865508
This, check the policy before going. The art museum closest to me allows sketching but no ink or wet media.
>to train eye-hand coordination
Drawing from observation practice you might try with pencil sketching
-contour drawing and blind contour
-negative/positive space drawing
-drawing without an outline using the side of the pencil to shade areas of light and dark
-drawing objects in perspective using simple 3D shapes without detail
-drawing study of a detail/section
-thumbnail compositions
-maybe paper viewfinders for looking at sculpture from different angles
Have fun drawing OP
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>>7865475
please tell us
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Hmm I was forced to do a art museum trip in college for homework. I didn't realize my city had such a big museum in the area (really should see the sun some more). Enjoy your time, Op.
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>>7868092
I would probably explore if I didn't hate car driving.
Sure, I could go by bicycle, but my area is pretty hilly, so I would end up sweaty as shit.
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>>7864895
Did this once. Some guy with a heavy french accent took it as an opportunity to complement me and then ramble on about random nonsense for about 30 minutes. I had no idea what he was talking about lol.

expect comments and attention from people.
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>>7868231
>expect comments and attention from people
I hate this desu. Makes me feel rushed.
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>>7864895
I wish I had art friends. What does it feel like, OP? Sometimes I dream about having a small group where we all love drawing and I eventually get an art GF. Still, it’s all fantasy. I tried going to in person art events and found no success at making friends there, nor did I find a GF. I’m just too ugly and I’m also 5’5 lol. Anyway, a man can dream. I hope you enjoy your trip anon.
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>>7868231
>>expect comments and attention from people.
Would love it if I were actually good at drawing.
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sooo how'd it go?
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>>7872924
We didn't go.
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>>7872959
rip. I sketch myself in a free zoological museum (at least I used to a lot), it was/is a very good experience. The manager/supervisor/whatever recognizes me and gives me special access to a separate area normally closed of to the crowds. Only downside was that plebs like to bring their noisy small children sometimes.

I wish I had art friends to draw with there (or friends in general).
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>>7872959
lmao how much of a loser do you have to be to pretend to be me?

We're going this weekend. I asked way ahead because I wanted to get some responses. Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the advice!
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>>7873453
You can use whatever you want, but I always bring fineliners, copics and a white gel pen. Mainly because Peter Han told me so but they are also just extremely handy for mobile drawing. Though for specifically an art museum this would probably be a poor choice, I'd probably pick just a mechanical pencil, maybe my staedtler leadholder alongside it, or even just a regular pencil, since these are more forgiving and you can build gradients easily. The copics and fineliners force you too much to oneshot things rather than feeling things out, which doesn't seem suitable for specifically what you're going to. Thoughbeit I never sketched in an art museum so what do I know.

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