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this style really pisses me off. what makes tumblr users think it looks good. its ... so.... uglyyyy......
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like this
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>>7865625
It's their way of rejecting the beauty ideals of society at large. The point of the style is that it's ugly.
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>>7865624
Tumblr still exists, and the Tumblr art style still exists with or without Tumblr. It's not like this way of drawing stopped existing after Tumblr fell out of popularity.
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>>7865613
How would one describe this artstyle beyond shit like "bean mouth" and such (since I don't think anyone actually does the bean mouth anymore)? I don't actually think it's ugly (but rather a little boring and flat) and I don't dislike it off of associations with "lesser" trannies since I'm not totally self-loathing but I'm paranoid one could clock me being FtM off of my artstyle alone. Something I do notice is thick-ish lineart with that "fluffy" brush and not much variation in line weight, as well as this awkward mix of anime and western cartoon influence (pot calling the kettle black if I ever showed my art, I know).
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>>7865616
>2015 was 11 years ago
Don't remind me.
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>>7865745
ohh u said describe. my bad. well the whole beanmouth thing came from the shift to softer less edgy cartoons in the 2010s and people obviously wanting to emulate what theyve seen on tv, and the nose in the pic is clearly inspired by animal crossing and the colour pallate is quite cosy, but not really appealing so it just looks flat. here some of the harder shapes have been added back in, discerning it from pure beanmouth style by having a small amount of edge. so i guess its just the natural evolution of this style as we as a culture slip back into having more edgy media influence us, with them still clinging to leftovers of the original softer one
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I can't be mad at beanmouth tumblr SJW cal arts or whatever you want to call it anymore. I'm old now and mellowed out. At least these lesbian tranny style persons are drawing. Just draw, brother
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>>7865613
I can’t really judge since my style is pretty basic anime, and hers honestly isn’t bad. I’ve seen much uglier art styles. What I don’t understand is why some artists deliberately make certain body parts look awkward or unappealing, almost like when someone feticize on a specific body part and ends up exaggerating it in strange ways. For example, the way she draws arms that look almost fat, and the disgusting freckles
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>>7865699
Maybe a better way of expressing my point is this: the point of the style is that it's ugly *to most people.* It can't be a coincidence that these styles are widely reviled, containing elements that are largely considered displeasing. The fact that most artists who have the Tumblr style are counter-cultural freaks reinforces my belief.
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>>7865743
was baking some cake... but here's a little collage of some of my recent stuff, including some doodles and art for others in other threads (the one in the bottom left corner is a WIP still, btw, so I know about the hands and the tragic face)
I suffer from the lineweight issues because I don't like how my stuff looks with a pressure sensitive pen, but I don't like it all being uniform either, so I do that thing where I chisel away at the lineart, which I'm pretty sure is a crutch that's going to be awful for me in the long run. I need to be better in that respect.
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Oh for sure
>>7865836
I wouldn't say anything in that drawing in particular is overly exaggerated or sticks out all that much, if anything I guess something I could say about this style is that it's trying to be cartooney/anime-like but is holding itself back from fully realizing either (I feel like I suffer from that also...) Cute girl btw
Tell me if I should just bring this /beg/ lol (although I guess when asking the question, "is my artstyle tumblr", this thread would be good for that no?) I guess a word I'd describe this artstyle would be very... restrained. It's similar to how I feel about that generic late-2010s anime artstyle. This is all to say, I wish my art had some more bite too.
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>>7865688
>It's not like this way of drawing stopped existing after Tumblr fell out of popularity.
yeah, but WAY less people draw like that now, especially, since most of the people that draw like that either quit art, posting art online, or changed styles.
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lmao i watched a bit of her when i went on a dive on youtube to see what these pngtuber videos were like. i drew her and two others
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>has animu fatigue
>has western fatigue
Ever tried to dumpster dive in old and obscure media at this point?
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>>7867274
I'm guessing you did a lot of heavy thinking due to the lack of syntactical continuity between the post you replied to and your reply itself. What are you because-ing? The question you made up in your head?
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>>7865613
teh power
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Your tastes are dictated by the communities and content you consume. If you eat shit all day, you'll develop tastes for shit. It's why you should look around in many places for things you like. There's a reason being well traveled was a compliment for the longest time before it became a past time for neo babies. Being exposed to different cultures and ideas allows you to expand your tastes and refine your own creations. As ugly as this style is, you should ask yourself why it is you dislike it so much and make note of it so at the very least you're actively refining your tastes.
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>>7868080
I agree, which is why I wish people were able to articulate what they dislike about this artstyle and others beyond just "tumblr vibes" or whatever. I think trying to verbally describe your artstyle and others' is a good mental exercise
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>>7866085
I started watching her video and didn't get past the part where she's apologizing for anyone who could possibly be offended and taste is subjective and this video doesn't even matter and bla bla bla - bitch, just tell me what you fucking think, get to the point
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>>7868089
Absolutely. It's a form of mindfulness and critical thinking or critical deconstruction which is extremely important for your own development. It makes you consider many things. How the artist came about the end result, what their intentions were, what you like, what you dislike, how to reverse engineer the things you like that they did, etc. It's basically the process you'd be going through when doing a study. The difference between passive and active consumption.
There's this thing called constraint driven creativity in which you intentionally introduce bad, awkward or hostile constraints. Like an ugly color palette, ugly style, etc and instead of rejecting them, you find a way to make them work. It's a really good tool because it forces you to use your own knowledge and skills to find a way to make something work. It's one of the things I do for studies sometimes to keep things fresh. I highly recommend.
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>>7865613
Resident chud here, allow me to explain:
That art wasn't made for us. It was made for lesbians.
That's why it looks like a combination of 90s anime shoujo and modern american cartoons. Its style is based on the artist's tastes, who is most likely a woman in her early to late 30s who watched a lot of anime as girl and turned into a dyke after being treated like shit by bad men.
Pay no mind to it. If anything we should feel flattered some lesbians like masculinity even though they don't like men. They can deny it all they want but "butch" lesbians are choosing to look androgynous because they like how men look, even if they aren't sexually attracted to us.
>>7865636
See this? This woman is obviously choosing to look like a dude, or trying hard to. Man haircut, thick brows and black shirt. The admiration for the masculine is more than evident.
Either way, since it's none of our of business I'd say ignore and move on. Just like we don't want Karens bitching about our art or art aimed at us, it would be hypocritical to force art for women to cater to our tastes.
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>>7865613
I actually find it kind of cute, only problem is I can't tell if it's faggot shit.
If you just added huge tits and made her explicitly a bio woman, it'd be very appealing to me with no other changes.
Even just making it explicitly a bio woman would be enough actually
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>>7868127
Just cause art isn't a concrete thing like math doesn't mean you can't apply logic or critical thinking to it. It's just a visual language, and as for constraint driven creativity, it sounds like shit you'd do only if you're on the spectrum, but it's just a long winded way of doing something like what the internet did with the picture of Frieren. That's just a much more simple and straightforward case, but hopefully you get the point. There's levels to all practice. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a high level artist that doesn't think critically, either consciously or subconsciously about visual language even if they can't articulate it. It's pretty much a requirement for progression in any skill.
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>>7868118
You put it a lot better than I could. I was the guy that posted the artstyle samples, but I'm thinking of maybe making a thread dedicated specifically to that sort of critical artstyle dissection and discussion since that would probably be a better place to discuss this sort of thing (if there isn't one that I somehow haven't seen up right now). I'd want to make a small compiliation of some of my favorite artists and write a little about them first, tho. Admittedly (and as is plenty apparent in my art) I'm a pure hobbyist and a casual in comparison to others in this board, but this sort of practice is still worthwhile to me because I want to make art that I like (as does everyone), and part of making what you like is knowing what you like.
The second half sounds fun. Do you have any examples of your attempts at it? I'm curious how you pull it off.
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>>7865613
The target audience
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where's le heckin mascetomy scars, we can't let the TERFs win this my sisterinos!
In all seriousness, the tumblr retardation is just fatherless behavior. I've met enough of those creatures in my life to know that they have been sexually abused and make themselves as ugly as possible so that they don't get raped again.
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>>7868142
Ideally it's the way people should approach their studies. Even more so with master studies where you're basically supposed to imagine you are the master as you're painting to help you be even more critical in your study. How they blocked their composition, the colors they chose, the value range, the brush strokes, shapes, etc.
I don't normally save my studies unless I'm extremely proud of them, but for a quick example, with OP's image if I only had to change one thing to make it appeal to the people in this thread while not touching the style, it'd be something for the male gaze, like the eyes. Changing their tilt and making the shape language around them a little sharper makes them more appealing and feminine (at least in my current eyes), remove a line from the nose and all of a sudden this goes from tumblr butch to possible tomgirl dommy mommy.
I don't know if the negative canthal tilt is literally how they intend the character to look or if that's just the style they're emulating because for some reason negative tilts are very common in this style. If it was part of the character I'd have to find another way to appeal to men, so I'd probably focus on the nose, mouth/chin or hands and add more flushed skin tones to areas like the ears or fingers.
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>you should be able to articulate and critically elaborate on things
very based and high IQ
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>the response 101 times out of 100
>"words words words i ain't reading all that shit also ur mad jelly and i think you commit several sexual crimes but also are a virgin lmao and you're pretty much a politics enemy of my choice because i think you are XD why don't you just enjoy things?! you are seething and bitter stop saying things i dont like"
This is for my reasonable niggas; You should genuinely consider what that anon is saying, but let the normies rot in their own misery so that they never get the blueprint for success and betterment.
They'll never figure shit out anyway, no matter how correct you are, no matter even if Jesus himself came down from the Heavens to confirm it. Stop trying to convince animals that they're people.
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>>7866085
I’m trying to watch the fucking video and she keeps running in circles. After 7 minutes of nothing she just explains basic concepts in the most extended way possible. All these tips are exclusively meant to talk to 13 year old Genshin Impact players who think that’s good design. She never mentions how most character design advice on YouTube sucks and only apply to cartoon artstyles
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>>7865884
How disgusting to me that you say you wish you were a man yet you draw a little boy getting his penis bitten off. I take solace in the fact that statistically you are more likely to commit suicide. I hope you kill yourself soon.
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>>7868201
Honestly even just fixing the nose would've been enough, but those eyes certainly are more appealing, so you're onto something.
>for some reason negative tilts are very common in this style
In this case specifically, I think they're going for a half-lidded sleepy look, but my best guess in regards to the prevalence in this style would be that they're softer and cutsier looking.
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I mentioned way up in thread that I read once that this "tumblr artstyle" is largely the result of people wanting to mix western cartoon and anime influence. You would be right to assume I used to be on tumblr and that I grew up in adjacent art communities, which is why I think my hypothesis as to how this style develops has some basis in reality. It goes as,
>Gets into drawing super young via anime
>Starts lurking around online art communities, watches art youtubers
>Watches some fucker like Lavendertowne who harps about western shape language
>Too retarded to properly apply advice to own artwork
>Starts trying to implement western shape language into their art
>Too stuck in their old ways to fully embrace western toons, not enough skill to cohesively combine the two
>Ends up like this
Man fuck Lavendertowne. I'm in a conundrum stylistically where I want to have this mix without it being super awkward, but since I'm finally reeling back and learning the foundationals I've been neglecting in lieu of drawing toons all the time, now would be the perfect time to experiment via studying from both western and anime sources. Hopefully I come back with something more refined and cohesive.
Not gonna directly answer other anon since I don't want to further distract from any further potential constructive discussion on this style, but I guess I should clarify now that that is not a little boy, that's a grown trans woman that I drew in a more deformed-moe-cartoon-whatever style. Piraña is there because I thought it was funny.
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>>7871170
I should expand a bit on the Lavendertowne bit though, since while I do think she was a huge influence in this sort of artstyle that I dislike and people in the circles tend to agree that she heavily influenced their art at a young age (with mixed feelings, but the most vocal I've seen were negative), I wouldn't want to say it's all entirely her fault. I think part of the issue is that this demographic of people were people who drew as a hobby/were artistically inclined from a very young age and were online and malleable during the era she was huge in (mid-late 2010s, so mid-late age zoomers like me). They were kids who wanted to improve (or hear someone talk about drawing), but were too undisciplined to do the boring shit like studying anatomy or color theory o lo que sea (because they were kids), but character design? Developing your super duper unique artstyle? That shit's like jangling keys in front of them, and because they're kids, they're more likely to just listen the person that is directly telling them what to do rather than curate and study their own influences. I'm thinking of rewatching some of her old tutorials tho, and see if they're really as bad as people say they were, or if people are just bitter that the way they interpreted her advice set them back. It certainly set me back, but I'm old enough to go in and overhaul what I'm unsatisfied with. Her art during that late 2010s tutorial era is ugly as sin though, so I don't have super high hopes.
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>>7865613
>click on video titled "the internet doesn't understand character design"
>this creature slides into view
I'm sure they make plenty of valid points (cos its not hard to criticize the garbage we're seeing on the internet) but man, the fucking gall.
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>>7871184
There is a thing called evolution of self. Sure, they might be to blame to an extent, but it's up to you as an artist or person to develop your abilities and tastes. You for example, are ready to move past the cupcake sprinkles mnm sugary shit, and are developing your style alongside your tastes as they mature. I don't believe anything is truly a setback. Every single experience and encounter you have ultimately results in you being able to create something uniquely yours. Don't be ashamed of a past you enjoyed, rather appreciate it for what it is, recognize that a younger you truly found joy in it, and allow present you to continue forward.
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>>7870933
I'm not that anon, but I think it's a fairly clever way to censor the penor. Like look at the beer can 6 pack plastic thing tied up on the left leg, I think it's supposed to be a zombie that came out of the ocean, so the fish is kinda funny and makes sense.
Although I have to let my autism show through and say that a "floater" would actually look nothing like this. The skin colour is wrong, the fresh, dripping blood and exposed brain makes no sense, and the biggest problem I think is [spoiler]lack of any bloating or skin distention[/spoiler].
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>>7871321
You're right. Even if it's not to my liking now, these influences were what kept me drawing all these years, and it'd be stupid to let the stylistic sensibilities I had as a middle schooler hold me back at 19 when there are people picking up the pencil for the first time (metaphorically) at that age and older. There are still characteristics of my style that I like, but they can be refined and incorporated into a style that is more cohesive and to my current liking. Es decir, I'm going to go on a training arc, open my chakras or my aura pores or some other chuuni shit. (I feel like my posts came off as a little too bitter against one art youtuber, lol)
>>7871413
I'm that anon, and i expanded a little upon it at the end here —> >>7871170 . She specifically dies via blunt force trauma to the head then dumped in the Itaya (tributary of the Amazon), so the exposed brain is a (admittedly nonsensical, yes) way of signalling to that. While this was meant to be more of a cute-grotesque and goofy depiction of her, I could've definitely included the bloating. Not sure why I didn't, since that's something I know happens, but it wasnt the most thought out drawing. I also did get a little too trigger happy with the blood, I'll admit. Thank you for pointing these out tho, since i plan on drawing her corpse in a more serious capacity some time. Would you be able to expand upon the skin color thing, tho?
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I kinda wish you guys would stop saying "this is the ugliest thing ever" and then it's just something kinda okay but not the best. You guys really just drink your own koolaid to the point you're ready to get pissed at just about anything that's not whatever weird idea of perfect you have is.
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>>7871742
There are plenty of art styles that can be appreciated even if they don't align to one's idea of perfection. For example, nobody would scoff at the passionate scribblings of a child, however malformed it may be. Unfortunately, what's presented here possesses so many characteristics that are intentionally, even maliciously ugly, so such grace isn't extended to it. In my opinion, it can hardly be called art, and it along with the social movement that continues to spawn similar pieces can kindle in Hell for all I care.
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https://youtu.be/iXnFqmoCLR0?si=7EgiqVPxD_QKPzT0
Hijacking the thread, but does the bottom counts as Tumblr-adjacent art?
The original game has a nice cartoony comic strip-like aesthetic to it but the art style in the fanmade "remaster" wouldn't look out of place in a 2010s cartoon that looks like Steven Universe.
Not to mention they don't exactly look like Mother 2 or 3's enemy sprites either.
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>>7865613
agreed
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