My guess is most people who find it annoying/a chore probably either
a. aren't drawing what they want, but got tricked into "doing studies" or "grinding fundies", even if those aren't related to what they want at all, or
b. don't actually like art, they just like the idea of "being an artist".

I think people are just dramatic. These are the guys who would probably be whining about how some shitty Star Wars show broke some esoteric canon if they weren't here crabbing people who just want to draw anime titties. For them crashing out is the point, some people's genetic code calls out to them to find a safe place to stop and be lazy. In another time and place they may have crashed out into some beg-friendly adjacent career, like being an art critic, but there are too many people fighting for too few eyes a the world is increasingly demanding you to be a complete self-starter to prove yourself. No wonder they get mindbroken.

>>7866426
u r very very right especially liking the idea of being an artist thing

>>7866419
I am having fun once i start its kinda like the shower first you don't wanna start and then you don't wanna stop because the in between sucks and your nervous system is doing backflips for no good reason. And while i am trying to will myself to get rolling I am quite susceptible to instead just ruminating on it

>>7866479
oh dude i have a super good hack for that. 2 minute rule so like if u dont wanna, dedicate at least 2 min that day. so if ur really not feeling it fine but if it was js the mental block theres not the pressure of a dull session but now u can get into the rhythm for one

>>7866426

b. applies to me. i don't actually enjoy doing art, i just want the final product and the having the skill/autonomy to not have to rely on paid commissions from other artists if i want some art made. still won't stoop to slopping though,

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Im havin fun :3

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I used to enjoy it as a kid, then it became a chore as I attempted to get better at it. Now I just draw what I want when I feel like it, I'm having fun and I actually draw more than I used to

I guess that I am, now. I did have like three anons tell me that my drawing levels are /beg/ as fuck, and yet I like my drawings now and so do some other people. It motivates me to draw despite being mediocre.

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>>7866419
Having fun is like just draw. Its a meme right?

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>>7866819
picrel

I'm not having fun anymore, but I'm also as good as I want to be so everything I draw is just a product to make me money now. I don't have time to draw for fun anymore and I dont have soul left in me because life beat it out of me long ago.

>>7866419
The act of drawing itself can be hit or miss for me, but I always get a kick when it starts coming together. That's how it's supposed to be with any project, delayed gratification and all that - you shouldn't expect art to be some joyous thrillride the moment the tip of your pencil touches paper.
There's a lot of frustrations, and headaches, from drawings not going how you want, and a lot of work to get through the 'ugly' period of a drawing to where the drawing starts looking good.

I actually find studies meditative and calming; no need to worry about being judged for quality, even by yourself, as its a learning process and it shouldn't be expected to be great (though put the effort in, obviously. You want to improve after all).

it doesn't feel as pointless and hopeless as it once did, so i guess i am having fun. it's nice to feel like i'm contributing to my future self in some concrete way

I don't think I'll ever even manage to reach the point of figuring out if I enjoy drawing. I don't enjoy what I'm doing, but my process looks nothing like an actual functional one used by people who know how to draw. Even when I watch relative beginners draw, I can't make any sense of what they're doing. Drawing looks like it would be fun if I understood it, even if I was still terrible at it.

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starting is hard but I can get sucked in for hours if I feel good
i know people meme on ADHD here or whatever but it's genuinely annoying because I've missed plans and shit because I get too sucked in and i think its created a negative feedback loop where I'm so hyperaware of my surroundings and time now that i sometimes can't push myself when I know there's nothing happening for sure because i might ruin my sleep schedule or something, which has been happening all week anyway

>>7866941
same

>>7866419
I don't even draw, but I want to try. I used to copy stuff from anime but that phase didn't last long.
So I'm hoping I can switch to realistic art even if it's just copies.

>start drawing anime as a /beg/ and had fun
>over time realise my stuff is shitty, want to get better, started studying fundies
>fun meter craters, realised there is so much I don't know
>every drawing session is a struggle now, can only manage around 1-2 hrs of study a day at best before burning out, sometimes skip days when I'm not feeling it.
feels bad

>>7866822
>mediocre
That term is getting diluted to just mean bad in general. Mediocre is not bad but not good either. Mediocre would be like low /int/. This is low /beg/, there's even MS Paint circle tool in the top left.

>>7866822
Why are begs so delusional and how can I as a beg prevent dunning Kruger?

>>7866419
I'm a perma-beg
that means I suck, which I do not enjoy
BUT it also means I get easy wins all the time
I'm constantly surprising myself with the cool shit I draw. so yes, I'm having fun :)

>>7866419
I've been taking commissions for like 7 years now so it becomes... eh, the magic is kinda gone. I'm trying 3d modelling next and for the sole purpose of just having fun and making up character scenes.

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i love drawing

I don't have fun anymore. I would enjoy the process, if I could draw things that are actually fun. I don't get better. And all I get to draw since last year are fucking boxes, cylinders and sometimes complex forms in perspective and gestures. I would love to grind Loomis heads, I would love to grind figure construction, but I'm unable to even construct a figure from ref as a basic box mannequin. It's easy to have fun when you're not stuck on level 0 fundies for an entire year.

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drawing has to be a ground wire, if you are too overwhelmed by the shit outside try to forget about that. Are you depressed? draw, are you bored? draw, don't know what to draw? draw doodles. It happens to me many times, and I try to at least take some time to draw or come up with a new idea.

I do enjoy drawing. But ADHD is a curse. It's either all or nothing, and I have an incredibly hard time actually focusing my efforts toward a goal even when I do have the gas. Not to mention I have bipolar II on top of that, so when I get hit with hypomanic episodes it's like my brain goes into overdrive and I'll go on a drawing bender, and it's like ideas and inspiration flows like water and I'll draw at a much more elevated level than normal. Then when it's over, I'll be depressed and demoralized because I can't draw like that anymore. It's created this complex where I basically can't draw without these natural highs. I just can't work consistently. Even in the good times, though, I still don't do much more than a lot of compulsive doodling. I don't make complete work at all. I'm a mess. And after starting lithium the high periods aren't as high and they don't last near as long. I enjoy drawing but there would be so much more to enjoy if I could actually focus and direct myself. I could be so much more without this damned brain disorder holding me back.

I have fun. Then I post my work here and get told I’m shit and I should KMS and YWNBAW and all the fun is gone. Maybe I should stop coming here?

>>7866419
>other form of expression
Like what?
Music won't give me the scenery and characters I want.
I wouldn't be able to show with written words.
I'm too clumsy for modeling
irl actions would lead me to imprisonment or death.

>>7869167
Very cool style ,post full pic please

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>>7869285
thank you! still working on it

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>>7869482
Banger, keep it up, anon!

>>7869280
idk js bet better or some thing
>>7869482
beautiful!

>>7866419
Until the stuff I make looks like the stuff on Pintrest, I will NEVER have fun >:( [spoiler]real though[/spoiler]

>>7869642
try have fun building up 2 that, make inspo boards n try analyse then copy the styles. when u succeed, it will feel rlly good trust mee

>>7869647
okay... I'll give it a go. But it BETTER WORK.

>>7869649
it will! just give urself grace and time :] also try the 2 minute hack, if u dont feel like it try draw for at least 2 minutes bc sometimes its js a mental block and u gotta get in the groove and if ur rlly not feeling it js leave till tmrr its better than having done nowt at all

It is physically impossible to draw more than 4 hours a day. I have to sleep 15 hours straight and doomscroll for 4 more hours to be able to draw again after that marathon.

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>nodraw for years, always highly impressed and interested in learning
>take class, enjoyed it, want to improoooove
>Get paranoid that i may want to draw freak shit in the future so decide to keep this a secret
>dabble on and off for few months at a time
>the longing/want to git gud has stuck around longer than any other hobby (e.g. guitar, languages)

if I trick myself into a /beg/ flowstate it can very fun and rewarding, especially if I impress myself. the frustration comes from there being more 'off' days versus 'on'.
>"What the fuck I did 3 ok figures yesterday why can't i make a cube look appealing?"

frankly, the combination of shit sleep + mind numbing office job + depression makes me a sucker for cheap dopamine so I overthink and procrastinate online when sit down and just fucking draw is literally all i have to do. plus being a schizo about somehow getting good enough to draw weird porn and not seeking irl drawfrens or even mentioning i draw because of it isn't helping (not that I know where to find drawfrens irl)

>>7869482
love the "dirty" colours

>>7866426
explain a. more because I felt that trap when I was trying to do drawabox, but I feel like that's the only way I can git gud and the plight of any good artist. what's your redpill secret? like I rarely ask for advice andrew tate grift style, but art is one of the few things I don't know how to approach. people say 'just pick up a pencil and start scribbling', then I just don't feel it either in free-form, construction, or the drawing from the right side of the brain-type referencing and canvas flipping type shit. Maybe DROB is more complex than the DeviantArt translations of it...

As someone with stage 3 aphantasia and only 15% neuroplasticity I find the act of drawing from imagination to be excruciating.

>>7872543
>what's your redpill secret?
The only secret is you have to have an explicit, concrete idea of what you want to draw. If everyone had ideas, they wouldn't do shit like DaB, they'd just do their ideas. What do you want to draw? Be realistic about it, it has to be something you can at least approximate with your current level of skill. For begs that's basically going to be simple cartoons, stylized faces, simple shapes like fruits.
Put a face and arms on the fruit, and give it legs and tennis shoes. Change the facial expression. Give it a hat. You made a cartoon character, congrats.

>>7866419
Light is at the end of tunnel, but the road doesn't end when the tunnel does. Keep going.

No, I'm not having fun. I didn't take up art just to draw a bunch of boxes in perspective, just to draw random stuff that's necessary for fundamentals but which is boring to me personally. I think if I just swallow the bitter pill now and grind fundies like a soulless golem, then it's going to put a soulless quality into my art, whereas if I continue at my current pace I'll barely make any art, but at least it'll have some life and passion in it.

But honestly, I don't know. Honestly I'm probably fucked. Screwed. There's likely no road forward with my art, this is a dead end.

>>7872592
You don't need to draw a single box if you don't want to. Just Draw but do read the theory and your brain will piece it together. Why people don't improve is either because they know the theory but don't draw or theydo draw but don't know the theory/don't seek to improve.

>>7872628
The stuff I make requires a really good understanding of anatomy. Personally, the thought of sitting down and copying Bridgman makes me want to shoot myself, and the other options aren't much better. I'm thinking instead maybe I'll just study videos of athletes and gymnasts of different sports, compare their body types, and learn that way how the body works.

>>7866419
>ru
Type like a human, retarded fucking talentless inbreed.

>>7866820
Its real, you just have to stop being a slave to your goal, the future, and enjoy the present
What you want to do is to draw and forget about social media, internet point, popularity, and even about being an artist. In my case I work a corporate job and I draw fanarts and porn in my sketchbook with pencil and eraser - no social media, no art account, no fancy $1000 wacom, no comfy drawing set up; just my desk, sketchbook, and pencil. Its simple but its fun; I'm having fun conceptualizing it, having fun drawing the piece, and I'm having fun seeing that drawing finished.

>>7866419
I only enjoy doing things when I’m doing them well. I need to feel a sense of progress and accomplishment. Art has few low skill activities that you can master and you kinda just have to grind at the beginning.

I picked up a pencil because making good art is fun. All the bad art you have to make to get there isn’t fun and never will be for me.

>>7866419
Drawing is not fun for me. It has never been. Yet, I always find myself drawing. It's not about drawing for me. It's about creating. Drawing is just the means for it.

>>7866419
Yes