>>7867592
how the fuck do you actually learn to write

>>7867592
writing is hard and nobody told me that im trying my best.

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>in the era of brainrot and illiteracy
>expecting any writing
unc das cringe fr og why you b malding tho

>>7867592
writing > drawing

>>7867592
I'm esl so it screws me over

>>7867594
By doing it.

>>7867594
Reading and writing. For dialog, I also recommend looking into script writing since that translates better into comics than traditional novels.

>>7867594
If your IQ is not above 120, give up.

>>7867623
fascinating, just like any sort of script? You got any recommnedations

>>7867596
>>7867624
This is the board where anon thinks using em dashes and knowing stuff means your post was written by ChatGPT because how else?

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>>7867626
I used movie scripts as a guide since that's what I'm most familiar with. There are also theater scrips, which are slightly more to the point. For movie scripts I use imsdb.com

You should also read books, it's helpful to understand how to grow a story, but dialog specifically gets a little lost in the details.

Picrelated is what I mean. It's good at providing details, but it becomes a little hard to translate all of that into a comic unless you're literally writing all of that exposition into your speech bubbles. Script style is to the point and explicitly highlights character angles and settings (which is necessary for paneling).

>>7867632
Yeah I am making my own game but I dont know how to uhhh I guess "study" writing? I do read, though I should read more. But I dont know how to like study on like building up the story in arcs? or like how to build up tension? I know like with Brandon Sanderson casue I read the Stormlight before the last book was so dogshit i dropped that series all togeather. Anyways, I know he always has a "payoff" at the end of each part. The story always stumbles into 3 climaxes in each book. So if I were to write a story I guess I could just imitate that structure? or for a game, ever 5 levels is a arc, and then each level gets harder and progresses to each 5th level where there's some huge level and then it kind of resets? Like I dont even know what those story arcs are called? What would you even call that? See what I mean by I dont know how to study writing?

>>7867627
That is really not exclusive to this board.
Knowing shit and using words in an almost playful manner enrages the Norman in ways one can only fathom through the power of imagination and assumption.

>>7867592
>not popular
Heh, this thread isnt about me.

>>7867592
>They're bad at writing
You gotta do something to get better at that something. Besides, I assume this is a webcomic? You shouldn't expect professional writing (or even drawing) from something like that; the standards for indies should be different.

Also, what's the comic? Let us see how bad the dialogue actually is.

>>7867627
I don't think I've seen this once?... No wait, someone accused me of being chatgpt, but I wasn't being smart, I don't think I can be.
Anyway, so I have seen it, but I haven't seen it applied to an intelligent point (regardless of whether or not I believe/agree with said point).

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>>7867592
Yeah of course. writing is essential for story telling .
That's why I cut back on the drawing and only use stick figures in my comics now.

>>7867594
Chatgpt does a great job

>>7867743
>Mr.Stikk
You're trying waaay too hard at making this a thing.

>>7867745
>The "It's not just X, it's Y!" Machine
Yeah, it's not just shit, it's really shit.

you need to be born witty and creative, thats what good writing is.

>>7867765
>you need to be born witty and creative
I don't know, I feel like it's a matter of influence and taste, rather than something born into.
Can a humourless person learn to be funny? I don't know, I've never heard of such a thing, but the absence of such cases doesn't mean it's not possible.
Likewise with being creative.

>>7867745
Its not good for asking for ideas. Its good to get facts and data out of. Asking it to check cadence, grammar, spelling, and technical details is usefull.
Treat chatgpt as a machine that can produce fabric. A loom. It makes a fabric, provides data, that you edit, cut and sew into a story.

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with how the average consumer now has become more and more illiterate, somehow lacking in any and all life experiences and knowledge or even any shred of empathy and unable to understand things unless they are explicitly told to them, there is not even hope in literature anymore.

>>7867796
>there is not even hope in literature anymore.
There is hope, so long as you write erotic fiction about women falling in love with, and fucking, monsters.

>>7867800
based post; reposting pasta:

you need to understand that the great majority of markets and products now are heavily developed, directed and sold towards a female audience.
Hard to believe but Vtubers are targeted towards a female audience.
Webcomics? All female consumer base.
Pornographic fiction? Majority Female audience.
Most gacha cancer also has a big female audience.
Paradoxically, even shounen is soft-targeted at women.

Why females? Because females are always the most obsessive market ready to buy up merch and consume like maniacs.
Without women, you wouldn't have concerts selling out, cosmetics brands making gajillions for putting monkey poo in lipsticks, and pieces of cloth costing 20k just for having a brand name on it, or tiktok gurus selling shiny rocks and making 5k a person for telling she is an ayy lmao and can see radio frequencies from the lizard people living in the antarctic nazi ufo bases.

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>>7867800
lmao
>>7867807
>pasta
ey, it was my original recipe

but good art is part of what I want to make, comics are still a visual medium

>>7867592
>been writing since the age of 7
>have published multiple if games, some of which are very popular
>fanfics always popular
>when i rp'd, i was popular
>at 26 now
>realize i've always used writing as a way to avoid facing my true passion, art
>have entire stories, scripts, etc. written in google docs that i can't even hope to illustrate
by the end of this year i pray i can make simple comics at least it hurts too bad

>>7867831
but also dialogue is really, really difficult to do, dialogue is like a separate skill from prose writing

>>7867828
Then form an artistic partnership with a half decent writer; let them do the thinking when it comes to dialogue and plot.

>>7867831
Similarly, you could get together with an artist to have your stories made.
Maybe you and the other can get together and fuck.
Also make a comic together while your at it - though it may be difficult in the middle of fucking, so do it before or after.

You only have a limited number of skill points. The meta has always been to put them into one branch of the skill tree rather than spreading them evenly. I’d rather be amazing at one skill than mediocre at many.

i am mediocre at everything but i have fun with my pencil

What about glorified artbook comics like Blame?

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>>7867746
>You're trying waaay too hard at making this a thing.
Mr stikk is one of the lowest effort shit things I've done . I didn't even draw him. He's a stolen stick man

>>7867592
Gesturemaxxx and just don't use words, ezclap

>>7867876
Blame! isn't a glorified artbook at all, wtf?

>>7867594
>Get something down
>"This is good but what could make it better?"
>Repeat until satisfied
>Feel free to skip ahead if you're stuck and come back to it later

>>7867592
I learn from bad examples anon, what's the comic?

>>7867594
To learn to write you can literally do the same as learning to draw:

> 0. read the bare minimum of theory
Get a copy of On Writing Well by William Zinsser and speedrun it
> 1. get a high quality template and study it
Read classical literature from whatever period interests you the most. If you don't know where to start, just list your interests to chatgpt and let it choose for you
> 2. try to emulate the high quality template
Read a chapter and then write 1000 words trying to emulate the same style
> 3. refer back to the template, correct your mistakes
Fix all of your clunky sentences by using the expressions you find in the book chapter

Do this for a year or two and you will prose-mog and dialogue-mog 99% of your competition

>>7867592
well whats the comic in the op?

>>7869928
What classical lit would you recommend to a gooner?

>>7870127
not here, GPT

I am already great at writing (or so my fans tell me). It is my art that is below subpar.
If I had to say, in art/writing mixed mediums it's art that brings people in, and writing that keeps them there.
Nobody remembers beautiful works with poor plots.

>>7867624
100*