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It's time to finally make it out of begdom bros
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>>7867751
>No link to the course
>No mention of the teacher
>Can't be bothered posting any relevant information
>Can be bothered posting a vague fucking screen shot
Fuck I hate how every thread is like this, why does every fucking faggot op do this? It's always a vague screenshot from a youtube video, or a vague screenshot from an article, or a screenshot from a tweet, with all the important information like the author fucking cut out. No links... I DON'T KNOW EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S POSTED ON THE INTERNET YOU STUPID CUNTS! POST A LINK! DROP A NAME! FUUUUUUCK!!
I HATE OP! I HATE ALL OPS!!
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>mogoon/chyan/nekojira
nah not these actual professionals
>rinotuna/krenz
nah not these established teachers either
>vilppu/huston/loomis
nah doesn't count too westoid
>this spic troon that literally just does 1girl 'illustrations' and not even that many
YES THIS IS THE ONE, ILL FINALLY EXIST NODRAW STATUS IMMEDIATELY AFTER HOARDING THIS SUPER SPECIAL COURSE
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297 bucks to learn boxes
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It is the strangest thing to me not that con artists like this exist and peddle their con, but that people genuinely fall for it and want to waste their time watching his meme videos even for free. Like genuinely baffling. You're voluntarily downloading a psychic virus.
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>>7867891
People think (specially begs) that buying courses (or expensive art equipment) will automatically give them skill. They desperately hope that by shelling out cash, they'll somehow be able to skip the grind and immediately learn how to draw without practice and become pros themselves. "I just have to watch all the videos and I'm done!"
Most of them won't even finish the course.
Begs are the easiest creatures to scam.
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>>7867905
>""Please OP, waste more of my time, also please continue letting me suck your cock!"
If you like having your time wasted, good for you, but I prefer if dipshit OPs stop doing to everyone else and in basically every thread, you stupid faggot.
>"Y-y-you could have searched for -"
Why should have to search for any relevant information that the stupid dipshit OPs want to talk about? What's the Point of the Original Post if it doesn't provide all the context needed?
>"are you posting from a phone by chance?"
No, and there's no chance of you getting my number, dumb faggot.
Also, fuck you.
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>>7867948
>title of the course is literally in the picture
The generic title that brings back dozens of courses from irrelevant links? You could try being less fucking stupid when acting smug, it'd help your case.
And again, my entire point is that I shouldn't have to hunt around at all, because the thread should supply all the relevant information. Why should we have to search around for the info that OP wants to talk about?
Why are you defending this time wasting laziness? Eventually you'll be on your deathbed, looking back at your life, and you'll see all the time (years, surely) you wasted looking up information that the fucking OP should have provided in their goddamned post!
>crying about not being spoonfed
I'm not crying about not being spoonfed, I'm crying because we're only being served a crumb trail.
>I am amazed by the people who post here sometimes.
Aww you, you're making me blush, I'm not that great.
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>>7867778
https://www.oridays.com/accelerator
Reviews on Ori's page (but the reviewers were already good before the course existed):
https://x.com/orideizu/status/2014730945031766343
https://x.com/orideizu/status/2015435063429923148
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>>7867977
Yeah, costing $100-150~ more than Coloso courses is a strange move.
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>>7867965
>No it doesn't, you lying nigger.
Oh, so it only returns that single result for you does it?
Because I could see anime courses for udemy, art and illustration courses from various universities, skill share, blah blah blah. I could see what was likely the right course not too far from the top, but before clicking on that random link I thought - "Why the fuck am I hunting around for something that should have been supplied by the OP? Surely no one would be retarded enough to disagree with that sentiment?..."
To my surprise, I did meet someone retarded enough to disagree with that sentiment! Are you enjoying the (you)?
>Even the google AI assistant at the top of the search results tells you what it is.
Eww, you keep that thing on, and you're telling us? Have some shame man.
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>>7867978
>https://www.oridays.com/accelerator
That's cool and all, thanks for trying anon, but my point is that it should have been in the original post. My rants aren't even specifically at this OP, but broadly about so many who make threads that are usually a still from a video with some line like "Do you guys agree with her?" - as if we've all seen the same videos as them.
Same with social media posts.
Articles.
Etc.
>>7867982
If people are going to talk about the course anyway, isn't the entire thread already an ad, retard?
Might as well have the link.
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Why would I want to learn from Oridays? I watched his ten thousand hours video before I even started drawing and it discouraged me a lot, because he still sucked at the end of it. Picrel is my two hundred hours of drawing anime girls, mogging the fuck out of him.
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All I could find from other people so far across the internet despite the course creator saying "hundreds of people" bought the class.
>>7868506
There has to be an incentive to want to right click+save 99 videos when there's no preview of the class besides what's in the image I posted.
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>>7868508
It has literally the same exercises of every other single course in existence, but it's twice the price and from a less skilled artist. Other than sucking a 'big' youtuber's dick, what's the incentive for buying this course?
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This is not an excuse when your immediate competitor, Coloso, offers longer videos for half the price.
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>>7869419
>When a retard westoid tries to constructoid anime
Spending 300 on a course won't change the fact that you'll never be Japanese, permabeg-kuns
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>>7867812
>10 years of being a millennial
Sonic CD PC Port (1996)
Zelda: Majora's Mask (2000)
TES: Oblivion (2006)
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>>7867812
I was fortunate to grow up with every system from the 80s up to the wii since I had step siblings and since my dad owned a moving business I got a load of PC games and computers for free. Rolled a pretty good life on the soul lottery in terms of a childhood.
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>>7867751
I was on his mailing list, I got a 30 dollar discount code, it says it expires "Saturday, 31 January 2026" but I don't know if that's Australia time midnight or UTC, if it is Emu time, then you guys might only have a few hours to use it, but as of posting it is giving the discount (pic rel). I hope Ori-sensei doesn't rape my ass to death for posting this xD
I bought the course on Monday and spent a couple of hours on it so far and I haven't even gotten to the first drawing lesson xD
He spends the first 2 of 14 lessons on basically sport psychology type stuff. Usually I would scoff at this as being a gay and stupid waste of time, but he literally called me out so hard its unreal. I had that depressed_ryan_gosling_meme_rxn.pngmoment when he makes you compile your work into an art progress board thing and I realized that I didn't have a single finished work in all of 2025. I just give up at the first third. I'm the ego, procrastinator, fixed mindset, artist he talks about fr fr.
>>7869267
As a person who was really excited to work through Hide's Coloso course, and failed Mark Brunet's course last year, I can say that Ori's course seems to be much tighter than either of those. If I remember correctly in one of Brunet's vids his kid walks into the room and they have a conversation in polish or whatever and then he goes back to lecturing, like he forgot to cut that part out lmao. I don't want to comment on the effectiveness of Ori's course yet, but I can already tell that you are wrong. Ori includes an ABSOLUTE SHITTON of extra material like his sketchbook and .csp files. If you want to pad out the course to 200 hours just turn on breathing asmr stream and look through his files xD
His course so far seems tighter and of higher production quality than any course if tried so far.
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>>7871400
Before I'm accused of glazing him, I will say that his "30 day money back guarantee" is BS. To get your money back you have to prove that you completed the whole course in 30 days from the moment that you purchased.
Unless you have an absolute hate boner for the fucking guy, if you realize that you don't like the course half way through, you aren't likely to power through to the end and finish it. Also if you have a full time job or go to school, but wanted to buy the course early to use the early discount code for example, then you might not be able to spend all your time to finish it in the 30 day window. This is really scummy because he has the "risk free" BS plastered on the landing page, but he probably knows that the amount of people who could finish the whole course in 30 days and would still want a refund is basically almost nobody.
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>>7871403
It takes one kind of person to sell a 300 dollar course while themselves being barely mid int. Look at his art, every piece is more or less awkward, he has no special sauce to teach and the fundamentals are already distilled into books by actual top tier artists. You pay 300 to get his dumbed down inferior version.
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>>7871407
You know that paradox of the mid woman that incels sometimes talk about? Like the 10/10 baddie actually gets less swipes on tinder than the 5/10 mid? It's cause people see the 10 and they get intimidated and assume that she must loads of attention, and then they see the 5 and figure that she gets less attention so they would have a better shot with her, so they all message the 5. I personally bought Ori's course because it seems that he actually wants to practically get you from A -> B in terms of a finished anime illustration.
People who are /pro/ don't fucking remember what it was like to be /beg/. Pic related is my drawing from Hide's first fucking lesson on anatomy. Like this fucking fag starts with a 3/4th top down view of skeletal volumes before he even teaches an actual frontal view. Oh and also in the video he does it in the most gay and retarded way "like lego"; he draws the body part/bone of to the side then drags it to it's position, then enlarges or modifies it to fit... and all the while he's talking about how much fun this is right guys???
Like wtf man. Why would you do this to another human being? I had to basically resort to pausing and screenshotting the vid and then all but tracing the screenshots, and even then my version of this skeleton is wrong and different than his in subtle and interesting ways (sarcasm). This shit took me so many hours.
BTW LOOK AT HIDE'S WORK WHEN HE WAS A FUCKING STUDENT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jcZ-qIcgM8
TALENT IS REAL HOLY SHIT. Talented people cannot teach the talentless because they assume that you are talented when you are not, and actually talented people don't need to be taught because they are already twitter famous for their art at 14 with no art education whatsoever. "How did you get that good"? "I don't know, I just drew my favourite anime character a bunch teehee".
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>>7871419
The dude is good at spouting all that psychology bullshit, he has a teaching degree. It's like sects, they aim for the lowest of the low (depressed artists) and carefully tell them what they need to hear to create a dependency and blind trust.
It wouldn't be that bad, if only the guy had the skills to back his words up. He may call himself a pro, and keep showing off his two-three pieces that got popular (like if the fact he has a big motivational talk youtube full with loyal drones didn't have anything to do with it), but he's still lacking. A poor imitation of his Japanese master with all the bad habits of a beginner artist.
>>7868508
You just need to take a look at this side view. Absolute horrible.
Word for advice for begs. Be very careful of who you learn from. If you learn from a not so skilled teacher, getting rid of their bad habits later is hard as fuck and is very detrimental to your future improvement.
>>7871400
That bald fuck brunette is fucking cancer, kek. All these artubers are. Get a real knowledgable tutor if you're so desperate , courses are not the magic cheat code that will help you escape beg.
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>>7871419
Nah, you have to understand that everyone starts out being dog water. Did you watch the end of the hide video you linked, he too was dog water once upon a time. Really the common factor for good artists seems to just be a positive feedback loop and an absurd amount of volume. But for anatomy for example you could consult a proven book like this Xiao Weichun one (https://online.fliphtml5.com/whcke/iopm/#p=1) and go at your own pace.
For perspective and rendering there are the Scott Robertson books:
https://e-hentai.org/g/1588796/313b11d676/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1588812/7c6211fb4a/
And that's basically all the fundies. It's given me a ton of clarity to go to the "source" and not chase the next shiny course/method. Also if you want to watch yt slop, watch this guy https://www.youtube.com/@FZDSCHOOL,he is an actual industry titan and has had a real concept art school running so he actually knows what is up, a lot of his stuff applies to illustration as well.
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>>7871429
fair points all around. I just feel like I need to break myself into actually doing the art thing seriously. I always get really discouraged by my lack of progress or run into a difficult part that I can't overcome, then I get depressed and give up (sometimes for weeks at a time). The Ori course seems concise, easy, and short enough that I'm going to just power through it no matter what.
>Get a real knowledgable tutor if you're so desperate, courses are not the magic cheat code that will help you escape beg.
Easier said than done, nobody worth their salt would tutor a retarded beg like me even if I paid them (not like I have enough money to make it worth it for a pro to waste their time anyways).
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Genuine question: what do you want to see? I have a dozen quarter finished garbage of every variety. I have digital painting attempts, figures and beans from proko courses, I have anatomy studies from books, pages upon pages of random scribbles, hand exercises etc.
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Thank you for the thoughtful reply. That anatomy book seems really interesting! How would you suggest a beg should work through a book like this? I think I try to copy every picture from my books but many of them are too hard to understand and I don't feel like I'm learning anything (other than copying skills), and that just leads to disappointment and burnout. Should I only copy the easy/understandable drawings? Maybe I'm pet the dog meme rn, but I genuinely feel like I'm doing something wrong.
>Did you watch the end of the hide video you linked
No honestly, I stopped watching part way through because it was too demoralizing when he was flipping through his sketchbook.
>FZD
yeah I listened to the first several of his design school podcast things, but the later episodes just go into pro industry specific stuff rather than learning so I stopped part way through.
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>>7871432
>Really the common factor for good artists seems to just be a positive feedback loop and an absurd amount of volume.
It's really hard to have positive feedback when your art is shit and you and everyone else knows it. Even int level artists get absolutely dogpiled on here and I don't have a person in my life who would care or be impressed by my dogshit art.
Maybe that's why the psychology mumbo-jumbo in his course has resonated with me so hard idk.
I know that volume is important, but right now it just feels like rolling a boulder uphill. I'm hoping to reach a point when drawing fills me with positive emotion rather than negative. Maybe it's the wrong way to think about it, but I'm trying to push through the difficult part so that I can get to the part where I am having fun drawing what I want.
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>>7871472
>Genuine question: what do you want to see?
I'd love to see one of your completed drawings, or one where you put a lot of effort into, even if it's from 2024 or older.
Not to make fun or you or anything, genuinely curious about your current level. I get why the course is very appealing for beginners, but if you have somewhat decent skills anlready and still praise it like you do, then it might actually be good.
Also it would be nice if you posted your progress in the future, a before and after. I don't count on you finishing the course judging by your previous track record with other courses, but it would be nice nonetheless if you could post an update in the future
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>>7871483
>I get why the course is very appealing for beginners, but if you have somewhat decent skills anlready and still praise it like you do, then it might actually be good.
I'm perma-pre-beg.
Pic related is the longest I ever spent on a piece. A couple of months ago I was really inspired by an artbook from a game called "Vampire the Masquerade Shadows of New York". I tried to copy the painting style and spent a couple of days doing attempts at cool photos I found on pinterest. Pic related was maybe 2 or 3 days at most. I know it doesn't look like much but I repainted the eyes like 200 times before I gave up out of frustration.
Wait until next post I'll show you what last week's figure attempt from imagination was like.
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>>7871483
I hate myself for posting this btw. Every time I look at my drawings I want to kms.
>Also it would be nice if you posted your progress in the future, a before and after. I don't count on you finishing the course judging by your previous track record with other courses, but it would be nice nonetheless if you could post an update in the future
If I could reach a point where I draw 1/5th as well as Ori I would post it and be happy with myself.
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>>7871483
also heres a bug I gave up on like everything else.
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>>7871493
Pretty cool study, not bad
>>7871495
I guess you're still lowbeg, yeah. I've seen worse. The face is bad but since it's from imagination I'd say it's not offensively bad for your skill level.
>>7871496
This one is cool
Yeah, you still need to go through the grind to overcome that initial difficulty slope, but if you ever decide anime is not for you, maybe you should consider switching to paiting and doing portraits.
Now I get why you bought the course, what he advertises sounds tailor-made for your skill-level tier.
I don't think oridays is at a level where he can teach yet, but if hide and other courses didn't help, maybe that could be to your advantage; but it's up to you to take his methods, improve and surpass him. Don't idolize him, he's not as good as you think, aim higher.
Thanks for posting your work, I hope you can post that update in a few months or so. Wish you luck!
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I commend you on posting your work. Actually, this is a good example to show everyone on /ic/ just how much "acceleration" the anime accelerator can do. If you could make art like Ori by the end of the course then I'll buy it. But that's likely not going to be the case but hey, maybe you'd prove me wrong.
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>>7871473
>It's really hard to have positive feedback when your art is shit and you and everyone else knows it.
This is why you'll never make it. You have a course you want to go through yet here you are explaining to people your whole fucking life story to justify exactly where you are and to why. I don't give a fuck, man, you don't gotta explain shit to me. Just do your course, we've already seen that it's just repackaged exercises you can get anywhere so I'm sure they'll help. We're just shitposting at this point. Go do your course.
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>>7867751
Every concept in every one of these drawing courses have been posted about and discussed here on /ic/, for free, and often years ahead. The difference between these courses and /ic/ is that they are selecting for people who are actually willing to invest in their education. When you are invested, you are motivated, and you are less likely to discard/dismiss the material. Giving up on a paid course feels like throwing money away. Giving up and hopping onto the next thing is easy on /ic/.
Now I'm not saying you all need to pay for courses. But you should be more self aware. What's holding you back is not any of these courses, it's how serious you are in your pursuit.
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>>7868454
>He has to force himself to be happy because if he didn't he just wasted $300 on a fucking course.
Sometimes the commitment is what makes it easy to do something.
Like paying for a trainer at the gym, if you only paid for a membership and didn't set up sessions some people would just not go exercise on their own.
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>>7871650
Which one, the one promoted on anime news network and myanimelist all the time or the one ran by that Christina Dubell lady that shamelessly plagiarized pirated courses by reskinning the presentation in an anime format and flat out copying the format of the teaching?
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>>7871682
There’s a video somewhere that copies 2shams Coloso class on heads, bit by bit. I pointed it out in her comments and she immediately had a melty about it though I deleted my own comment because I couldn’t be bothered because why hate her when she’s proof you can scam retards.
The there is Will Weston and her argument was something along the lines of Will would be okay with it.
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>>7872130
I wouldn't mind paying $300 for a course that would help me improve, but when the internet is full of free or easily piratable courses, why should I believe that this one is the one that will help me escape beg? Maybe fact that I would have spend so much money on course would make me more commited but I don't think that would help me.
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>>7872150
The money is the point. If $300 is a lot for you then you're not going to blow it off versus downloading the hide Colosso course for free.
Plenty of data hoarders in /ic/ are still stuck in /beg/-hell. It's not the instruction, it's the commitment.
Like I said though, giving that money to Oridays might rub you the wrong way. Maybe have a bet with a friend to keep yourself honest or buy a course from someone you genuinely respect.
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>>7872153
I would never have told any of my friends that I'm trying to learn to draw.
I don't even know why I was tempted by this course if I know that instead of wasting money I should just improve my mentality and draw more.
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I've seen some of his vids. He has the right idea on some learning methods (things related to information recall is core in actuall retaining what you've learned) but his actual work isn't pro.
He's not bad either but I don't think this is worth $300 unless he critiques and helps you with some of the lessons, like a classroom.
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>>7869297
I don't disagree but I have six different Coloso courses and they all sit between 15-25 hours of content. Even 3 hours wasted of them just drawing an illustration is still more bang for your buck especially since most Coloso courses cost $150-$200.
I just don't see the incentive for Ori's unless I'm missing something. At that price I'd honestly expect some form of teacher feedback. Even a ten minute a month overview on your progress would make it worth it over Coloso considering you're on your own if you watch their videos.
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Kek, does this mean his course didn't sell as good as he expected?
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