Thread #7867799 | Image & Video Expansion | Click to Play
HomeIndexCatalogAll ThreadsNew ThreadReply
H
How many professional or accomplished digital artists use tablets without a screen? Are there people that get far and do great work with these? Just curious, I'm somewhat of a beginner and mostly draw traditionally.
+Showing all 30 replies.
>>
>>7867799
Yes you don't need fancy tablet
Just get a cheapest wacom one or bambo
>>
Yes, you can do everything the same way as you would with a screen tablet. I think you should actually worry about compatibility, there will always be someone that won't do well with screen less tablets and vice versa.

I GUESS a screen tablet would be better for a beginner since you won't have to train your hand to monitor coordination with a screen less tablet, but that will fix itself as you get used to the screen tablet.

Other than those aspects, i'd say screen less tablets are better since a screen tablet gives you neck pain / bad posture and they're way expensive compared to the other option. Plus, you get to use a high end monitor (if you have one already) instead of essentially having to buy another monitor

This person created this illustration for RIOT Games with a Huion professional screen less tablet.
https://youtu.be/ovFIjtNTfhk?si=LFJg-JdJFmdkKNjS
>>
>>7867799
In those interviews and videos of famous mangaka and animators, they always used large display tablet.
>>
>>7867799
didn't boomer digital artists did their job just fine with stupid wacom bamboo tablet? are you gonna let a bunch of boomers own you, just because you don't have access to display screens/ ahahahahha
>>
>>7867799
Many times when you see videos of animation studios in asia everyone uses screenless tablets, while working on huge screens. Maybe screentablets are cumbersome for their workflow.
>>
>>7867799
I’ve drawn with both, and the skill level you can reach is the same. However, a screen tablet is faster and feels more natural. If it’s a full tablet, you can also draw on your bed or couch, which is really convenient.

Screenless tablets are cheaper, you can get one for around $20–30 and it can last for years. Mine still works and is my main tablet, and I started using it about four years ago. If you’re just starting out and already have a PC or laptop, a screenless tablet is the cheaper option. If you don’t, then getting a standalone tablet is the way to go.
>>
>>7867799
Screenless tablet is better for your back.
>>
>>7867799
Many of my favourite artists happen to use a screenless tablet.
>>
>>7867907
Name 5.
>>
>>7867799
Before screen tablets were widely available, or for a price that was reasonably feasible, everyone worked with the screenless tablets, and plenty of great work was made.
Hell, there are some crazy people out there who work entirely with the mouse, and still do great stuff.

Point is, stop trying to search for the 'perfect tool' as if finding it will suddenly make you good.
>>
>>7867799
Like another anon mentioned in another thread, go look up Craig Mullins. Dude made art using mice, not kidding.
>>
>>7867799
basically any artist over 35 used screenless
>>
>>7867881
since you are tracing lines 90% of the time animating, screen is superior for that.
>>
You can work fine on printer paper and ballpoint pens from your local bank, stop falling into this trap of chasing the shiniest thing
>>
Brian Bolland apparently uses a screenless tablet since the 1990's and switched to entirely digital art. His style is essentially the same as it ever was.
>>
Feng Zhu, Nekojira, Soejima Shigenori, Forrest Imel to name a new
>>
>>7868043
Does Feng Zhu even counts anymore? I think he's done.
>>
>>7867799
My transsexual furry friend borrowed mine years ago and never gave me back... I'm not sure how well his career's doing, we sort of lost contact, hope he's doing well. I don't miss my Wacom though, drawing on a screen feels way better.
>>
>>7867799
the entire first generation of digital artists
>>
There's no excuse not to draw on a screen. All the late zoomies draw on their phones and tablets.
>>
>>7867799
you can get away with a graphic tablet but if you got the money, just buy a screen tablet
>>
It's just about being able to get your marks to land where you expect them to on the screen the vast majority of the time. It might take longer to get used to doing that with a screenless, but we're talking weeks/months of rampup time if even that depending on your natural hand-eye coordination skills. After you reach that point, the screenless isn't hindering your output anymore and it's all about what you find more comfortable and enjoyable.
>>
Display tablets suck - ergonomics, price, delay, hand covering portion of screen, yet they excel at accuracy. I think if you mainly paint, screenless is actually superior.
>>
>>7868279
>My transsexual furry friend
>>
>>7868398
I never judged him to his face, tried to be supportive, oddly enough he cut us off in favour of his Discord friends or something even though we were chill about it.
>>
>>7867858
Everyone does. Urasawa, Murata, Mashima, all videos about anime studios. Not sure why you guys are in denial about this.
Pros use cintiq.
>>
Screenless tablets allow an unobstructed view of your artwork: one hand draws on the tablet, the other hand rests on the keyboard, and your eyes stay focused straight ahead. Screen tablets may feel more natural but the hand and pen often block part of the display, and workflow is frequently interrupted by on-screen controls, tablet buttons, or reaching for the keyboard
>>
>>7868879
>Screen tablets may feel more natural but the hand and pen often block part of the display
Are you retarded? How do people draw on paper?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouh8Sa3oDCI&list=PLvMQH2p-txq1wMYSXZYMFeQM7AITv7dwZ
>>
I want to add that screen tablets will be up to 4 figures expensive unless you get older models. That is viable and many oldies like the Cintiq 22HD are built very well and available for around 200 dollars. But the big drawback is bad contrast and color gamut on these. I think if you do manga/line heavy works it's alright but I found the old screens very unwieldy for painting. You just won't get them to match your modern monitors, phone screens, etc. The chinese ones have good colors but very weird pressure and pen feel.

I have a xencelabs and use it exclusively now. It beats my intuos 5th gen and I do not notice any limitations on it at my skill level (beg lole).

Reply to Thread #7867799


Supported: JPG, PNG, GIF, WebP, WebM, MP4, MP3 (max 4MB)