Before him the noref flex was common online, I don't think he had a huge impact on that.

>>7868787
Im not gonna read all of this.

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who cares what the crabs think art should be. think about yourself first OP, thats how this world is designed now, self-centered and egoistic. aim for a goal and go there with whatever means and i mean whatever means. if youre satisfied with it, then its exactly what it needs to be. references, gridding, constructing even algoslop (at least for conceptuals) is allowed. anything goes, nothing is true all these rules are made up. honour is a made up concept.

be free.

>KJG
i dislike his art, i think it's distasteful

>>7868787
feels like I've seen this thread before

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'Gi was a fine arts students, grinded quadrillions of boxes from the very start, and learned discipline and actual weapons (thus boxes) from obligatory worst korea service; no contemporary artist now has this combo

>>7869180
don't forget he grinded cylinders and ellipses too, as a kid he was obsessed with drawing bikes(thus bike frames and wheels) and that never stopped..

>>7869180
Korean artists are great, all of them.

i fell into this trap and my art wwas buttcheeks and booty hole.. now im out of it and improving way more

He was kind of damaging. Not his fault, but the sheer spectacle of his raw savant-tier talent hypnotized a generation of kids who grew up on social media. It's not something anyone can or should aspire to do. More of a gimmick than a practical way of doing things.
Funny thing is, he used reference. He talked about it all the time, he was a reference studying machine. But people are idiots and like the spectacle. So what can you do, let them suffer by their own hand.

>>7868787
Not really his fault. He constantly said he was able to do what he did after years of experience and practice with references. Everyone else didn't listen because they were too focused on how he drew.

>>7868787
I see it a lot. Lots of YouTube channels trying to teach “how to draw like Kim jung gi” and stuff like that. People outright mimicking his style. It was inevitable because he’s one of the few artists that could produce so much without reference, making him an artist people look up to. He does use it a lot tho as he shows in his YouTube videos plus he drew from life a lot. It’s not like he just woke up and could draw from imagination like a beast so idk why people think not using ref is necessary. And yeah, unfortunately, a lot of their art is bad, and that’s because KJG’s art isn’t honestly all that appealing, and this is coming from someone that owns a book of his . It’s well made from a technical standpoint but it isn’t consistently beautiful imo and puts more focus on the “drawing” element- perspective, anatomy, form- but not how to make those communicate in an appealing way. He was great at drawing but he wasn’t as great of an artist, if that makes sense

>>7868787
>>7869611
are zoomers genuinely retarded that they can't admire someone better than them without either falling into depressive despair or non-reflexively treating them as the next issue of the gospel?

>>7871612
>>7869611
how is it not his fault? he literally purposefully did all of these shows and interviews to hype himself up he purposefully and consciously collaborated with the most viral agencies and corpos in korea, thats his whole shtick, thats what makes money that was his goal from day 0.

>>7874835
He can't help that he's extremely good at drawing and people want to see him draw. But you can maybe help not being a dumbass who falls for the hype.

> I do think it's a interesting exercise to try drawing how he does but for actually learning it's horrible
Can you post a work of yours applying these fundamentals that are good for drawing

>>7874841
what? nigga can you read? he purposefully designed his shows to look like as if he was drawing from imagination with 0 training and preparation he has sinned and is now in hell.

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I think it's more accurate to say he empowered a kind of person who's overly obsessed with process and methodology to get the wrong idea about art. It's as much about self-discovery and letting the serendipity of chance guide you as it is folllowing a preset path.

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>>7874851
Nigger what? He was drawfag, it's not that complicated. He was a dude who compulsively drew nonstop, could not stop drawing. The direct-into-ink thing he did isn't even noteworthy in and of itself, I do that shit all the time with honestly okay results. What made him remarkable is that he had basically transcended the art of drawing to such an extent, that he wasn't just doing scribbly made-up shit, he was doing really detailed perspective and figure work off the cuff.
It wasn't a larp, it was just like taking a shit to him, but that doesn't mean you then have to corrupt and stunt your entire practice to badly imitate his 3rd-eye bullshit. Be your own person.

>>7874856
learn to read negro. im saying that he purposefully and consciously misrepresented artistic process for hype and money meaning that >>7871612 >>7871628 are wrong he knew and did it anyway and made money off of it meaning he is definitely responsible and is at fault.

nothing you said has any relevance to the chain of discussion

he literally got killed by the covid shot

>>7874864
>misrepresented artistic process
ah yes the coveted formulated set in stone artistic process
he drew in a way that was the most comfortable to him and people like it, he followed the praise, if you're such a room temp subhuman nigger that you got mindbroken by someone getting rewarded for what he was good at then remove yourself from the genepool immediatelly

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>>7874864
I can read, you're just a big doodiehead, basically - and wrong! I never got the sense he cared that much one way or the other what people took from his art. You can tell he was simply a Faustian personification of drawing itself, wasn't thinking much else apart from "just draw." Draw draw draw. That's the lesson you SHOULD take from him.
However, the lesson people instead take from him is "I have to draw exactly like him, aping his style and process, before I can make art the way I want to." Because they're fucking stupid. Well, it can't be helped.
If he can be criticized for one thing, it's the lame-ass box shit that he emphasized. I think his intentions were right and maybe he really did think in boxes, but it's genuinely useless advice that is lost upon the vast majority of people, it's machine language. It's like Michael Jordan telling normies to "have grit" and they can dunk the ball. KJG is not unique in this though and I think he just wanted to be able to offer something more concrete than "just draw" because as you'll notice, retards will not accept this if you say it to him. They will resist it tooth and nail.

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>>7874864