>>218980950
>Italian yet wishing for the destruction of Italy?

This nigga bragging about being from southern Italy

>>218980950
Who the fuck cares what retarded old worlders think? I'm going to come to your cuntry and fuck your women and say I'm one of you and throw wads of money at you while laughing while you scramble around on the ground picking it up

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>I was born and bred in Basilicata

Europeans on Nafris
>A rat born in a stable is not a horse
Europeans on Italian-Americans
>You are an American, nothing more

>>218981602
We don't like you both

>>218981624
Take back your eurodivergents. We don't want them here. Ellis Island was a mistake. They've made this place worse ever since Andrew Jackson let them in.

>>218981647
I don't know what that is but the last thing this continent needs is even more foreigners

>>218981667
They're diasporas to you not foreigners.

>>218981667
They aren't foreigners, they will never be Americans, they're euromutt 48er garbage and they WILL be getting sent back to your second world has been (or in krautany's cause, never was) shithole.

>>218980950
>I'm a proud son of immigrants!
>I love trump he's kicking the immigrants out!

não bate a bota com a perdigota

>>218981647
Trvke. Especially the krauts; dumb cattle who have outlived their usefulness as janitorial middle-men slaves to the Old Stock mastetrace. The innate German tendency of being a pliable and stupidly inoffensive oaf is just not compatible with advanced civilizations.

>smug europoor
It's like a corpse speaking.

this is such a boring conversation to have because people will refuse to acknowledge blood-ties out of political correctness. I always think of my niece: she was born and raised in germany. does anyone in our family consider her german? nope. neither does she. if she had a family with an italian who was born and raised in germany would her offspring be german? probably not.
if a nigerian spanws a niglet in china is that niglet chinese? probably not.
so unless the american in question is gigamutted, he's still ethnically italian

>>218981860
white americans in the U.S south/appalachia are (unfortunately) just british.
the ones in the upper midwest are some weird scandi-pollack-kraut mutt hybrid though, and have all the worst traits of those groups

its kinda funny, americans with italian heritage are actually really rare, they basically only exist in the coastal northeast in any real numbers

>>218980950
Italian Americans stick together over here, other white American groups aren't like that.

>>218981708
>If you don't like losing why are you beating your enemies?

Peak Goyim brain

>>218980950
Euros will gladly let in millions of Sub-Saharans, but the second a 95% genetically matched diasparoid starts talking about how much they love the homeland they turn into the Waffen SS

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>>218981860
I'd say it depends what kind of culture does the 2nd generation embrace. I don't think there is a single Italian looking like this.

>>218981982
>other white American groups aren't like that.
A lot are but they do it different ways.
Either through geographic isolation (Appalachians) or religious isolation (Mormons, Amish) and sometimes linguistic (Acadians, Cajuns)
White America isn't a monolith and there's never been a single "White American" culture or identity.

I'm a 3rd gen Italian (and only half at that) and every time I've told an actual Italian that I'm Italian they've agreed with me every time
this "you're not a real European" thing seems to only occur online

>>218980950
Why is it always irish, german and italian "americans" say im italian, german and irish. Ive ever heard this from dutch and french/huguenot americans

>>218982695
I've never heard a "German-American" claim such a thing. Usually it's Catholic exclusive, the US is Protestant so they feel like they have to emphasize their original ethnicity. Protestant Americans, however, usually assimilate fast and while they identify with their place of origin they do not hyphenate.

>>218982695
>german
>dutch
>french
All have been here long enough to develop distinct American identities here.
Irish and Italians came over like just a little over a century ago. They're new.

>>218982990
Yeah igaf what euros say the new jersian is more italian.

>>218982695
italians know they will never belong here. Nobody thinks of a shitskin wop when imaging a white guy.

>>218980950
>Nice that your family has stayed in that one region for millennia herding cattle, but ours has not.
Brutal. Martini Terrone's never gonna recover from that one.

I'm venetian sir

literally the same argument as with trannies

if italian-americans were italians then there wouldn't be the need to call them anything else than italians

>>218983153
please stop
tears are welling in my eyes

>>218981681
>>218981647
kek imagine being from a shithole like kentucky

lmao these mutts are delusional

>>218983358
it's the exact opposite argument actually you dumb Europoor

>>218980950
We're Italian whether some finook overseas likes it or not. Afangul you little bitches.

>>218982695
Dutch and French Huguenots were already assimilated into being "WASPs" by the 1700s

>>218981602
Yeah but if starts acting like a horse and has horse blood in it it's not really a rat either now is it
it's just a freak

>>218980950
The main reason they aren't acknowledged as "Italians" is because Italy is such a young nation that the little history we have in common throughout the peninsula started just as most Italian-Americans were leaving. Italian-Americans should call themselves Sicilian-Americans and Neapolitan-Americans.

>>218983671
no

the categories are different as demonstrated by the fact they have distinct names, you mouthbreathing australokike

>>218984721
Trannies think changing labels changes biology.
Nationalities are mere labels, acknowledgement of ethnicity reflects biological reality.

>>218980950
>american projecting his geographic retardation on others

AYYYY
GABAGOOL, BUFFALO MOZARELL, PROJUTT, AND-A PARMEGYAN

>>218983738
Nah, it's still a rat. Put it back with the rats and it'll behave like a rat again, any kids it has with the rats will just be rats.

>>218981909
Explains why south US is so full of absolute faggots

>>218984612
>Italian-Americans should call themselves Sicilian-Americans and Neapolitan-Americans.
A lot of them do that. If they were based they'd revive Sicilian in their communities but if they do learn an Italian language it's always standard Italian even though none of their family ever spoke that.

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>>218984978
And if they were GIGAbased they'd lobby the U.S. government to fake a revolution and bring back the Kingdom of Two Sicilies.

I don't consider my relatives from the US as "italian" as my relatives from canada and argentina, because they are far too americanized and dont speak the language. My relatives from canada speak both standard italian and dialect while my relatives in argentina speak with a spanish accent and their dialect Is mixed since they are half friulano or whatever

>>218980950
I have some distant 3rd gen cousins in America and they're Americans despite coming here a bunch of times. Even the 2nd gen is fully American

>>218980950
Yuropoors seething at American trvkes

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>>218981860
>if a nigerian spanws a niglet in china is that niglet chinese? probably not.

The vast majority of /int/ has the wrong idea about China, influenced entirely by their own misconceptions, based on nothing but assumptions. Here's the reality; Chinese civilization started in a small pocket of land between the Yangtze and yellow rivers. In every direction, from the southerners who were hunter gatherers in jungle huts, the northerners who were steppe people living with horses, to Persianized desert dwellers born in raised in the sand. And what did you think happened to these people when the Chinese started expanding in every direction? They became Chinese and their descendants are still living in China to this day, they are the ethnic minorities that comprise 6% of the population. None of these people are what comes to mind when you guys think of Chinese people like Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee, but they're still Chinese; clearly they aren't Han but they're still Chinese.

Your analogy doesn't make sense because hundreds of outside groups, for thousands of years, slowly became Chinese, and will continue to do so for the rest of time. Maybe not Africans because their numbers are so low/their residence in Guangzhou is transient/business related so they don't stay, but to this day, China has a small Russian community that's one of the recognized 55 minority groups. So a Russian who's born in China today would certainly be Chinese/have no issues assimilating into Chinese society. Any other European ethnicity would be welcome to do the same, because that's how it worked for all of time. Any alternate claims made by you idiots are just racist ramblings that you've made up in your minds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_China?wprov=sfla1

>>218980950
You can't be of an ethnicity if you don't speak the language. Even learning a second language has turned the world more american even without leaving their country.

>>218981624
/thread

>>218983018
I think it has more to do with passing white. Italians for the most part look Arab so they could never pass as white Americans, hence they developed a strong connecting to being Italian-Americans. Not all Germans were protestants, and you also had ethnicities like Poles or French in the US but I never see mutts claim they're French-American or Polish-American

>>218983116
>>218983018
>>218983153
>>218983714
Why are the most arrogant? I mean just look how they're so obsessed with mayflower and wasp shit, even polish and eastern european ellis islanders aren't this obsessed

>>218981602
America has developed its own culture separate from the individual nations that European settlers came from. Those settlers have also intermixed to the point that whatever European ethnicity an American claim it's often entirely their own choice rather than anything to do with their genes. They are Americans with American culture and mixed European descent.

When a MENA brownoid comes to Europe they often adopt a mixed culture of their homeland and their new host country. They don't become European genetically (obviously) and they don't become fully European culturally either. And the more of them we get the less pressure there is for them to adopt their host country's culture because they can stay in their ghettos and mingle mostly with their own kind.

So there is nothing contradicting between your two statements. But if it makes Americans feel better the annoyance a European gets from an American claiming a heritage from a country they know nothing of is a lot smaller than the annoyance we get from muslim criminals that come to our country to rape and steal.

>>218987587
the italians who came here are some of the brownest ones to ever exist, even when mixed with poles and anglos.

>>218981602
Europeans on Nafris
>A rat born in a stable is not a horse
Europeans on Italian-Americans
>A rat born in a rat nest is not a horse either

Simple as