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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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Yep, I'm thinking they won.
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>>50592266
Blessed thread
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cursed*
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>>50592266
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>>50594164
Mii...
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>>50594297
Pain!
Without love
Pain!
Can't get enough...
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>>50594164
>Keiicih doesn't deny it and blushes
>Mion is the only one who freaks out and denies it
LOL!
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>>50594329
Mion is easily worst girl, I haven't met a fan who liked her for any reason besides she's a le quirky tomboy. love as deep as a puddle
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>>50595157

I like the whole mess of the Yakuza stuff on the background and how she tried to carry it (even feeling guilty due to the positition she ended up in) and help others with what she can do, rather than lashing out on others over her problems.

If anything I'm disappointed R07 doesn't seem to want to touch on this with a ten foot pole. I thought her disappearing even during Watanagashi in Gou might be related to some family complications, especially with the conflict in a family meeting in the credits, but there was nothing, just the line about being busy with school after all.

And then Reiwa just completely removed her position as the successor and gave it to Akane, and then even split the Sonozaki yakuza into a separate family, just to not actually deal with the initial set up around Mion's character. It's frustrasting she has set up for a good story, but R07 is too cowardly to touch on it nowadays.
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>>50595157
Mion Sonozaki is literally the best girl in Higurashi, what are you even talking about? Did you get psyopped by her landmine of a sister?
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>>50595157
>people like Mion for her quirky personality rather than tragic backstory or whatever
>anon baffled
kek
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>>50592266
I have Satoko fatigue
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Fucking love Tomato.
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>>50596398
Don't pay any attention to them. Just your typical scatokofag.
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>Seething about Satoko out of nowhere
Behead Miitroons
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leave /vn/ alone
>>>/vg/554588990
thanks
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>>50596672
Let him cook up a fixed Reiwa ending too
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>>50596398
Mion doesn't even have a personality.
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Ange is literally the best girl in Higurashi and she isn’t even in it but by going to St Lucia she is a part of it and the biggest success.
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>>50599112
That would be you, anon.
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>>50599112
This
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>>50599416
This. Mion has a much more complex personality than the lonely virgin bait that is Satoko.
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>>50599746
>lonely virgin bait
Satoko isn't that either, she's a cute girl that needs her nii-nii.
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>>50599746
Lonely virgin (based) bait are osananajimi and thus Rena.
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>>50597976
It's sad really, seeing Mionfags react like this and attacking one of her dear friends because they're insecure about Mion is just kinda pathetic. Mion would get so mad at them for disrespecting her friend Satoko if she saw their posts.
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>satoko bait threads now generate a response rate of 2 posts per day.
07th expansion zombies…..we need more fresh meat to stay alive.
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rika OC from last night, i thought it might be appreciated here

i like all the higurashi girls. besides shion, i’d beat her to death with a rock
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also, does anyone remember higurashi mei? i got reminded of it recently and went to redownload it, but it got EOS’d. i miss it
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>>50601919
Cute Rika! Who's your favorite Higu?
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>>50601919
Thank you brother I love it. It's very warm.
>>50601923
EoS was like half a year ago now I think? I had fun collecting my Rikas but it was inevitable I guess. I never checked what the resolution to the story was.
I'll remember it for the cool cgs, faint hints of cool possible plotlines and crossovers.
Shitsugou really should've just been a Mei shill anime I think.
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>>50601894
Last time I checked it was a Rena thread that ended up dying before reaching bump limit before the 15 day autosage rule
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>>50601940
i’d probably have to go with satoko, but it’s a close tie with rika. i’ve seen a lot of hate on satoko’s behavior and storyline in gou/sotsu, but i thought it was very interesting and i can understand a lot of her behavior
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>>50601942
i never really tried to translate the story enough to understand what was going on, but i also liked to collect the cards. i thought it was cool that they added akasaka’s daughter, too
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>>50601950
I just hate that Satoko doesn't do shit, not even in Tatarigoroshi, and is unpleasant. She's worst girl by far.
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>>50601950
>i’d probably have to go with satoko
BASE-
>i’ve seen a lot of hate on satoko’s behavior and storyline in gou/sotsu, but i thought it was very interesting and i can understand a lot of her behavior
lol
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>>50601953
You sound like a faggot and a secondary as well, promptly consider blowing your brains out after reading the VN
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>>50601954
i am a simple man and if i lived in such a nice little village with a group of friends who loved and cherished me i would do anything to keep it that way forever
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>>50601953
>Miicuck still seething
lmao
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>>50601953
i can understand that, i don’t usually like the smug/stuck-up anime girl trope anyways so i’m not sure why i love satoko so much
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>>50601959
There was some development in Minagoroshi 7 chapters in, you have to read a whole Bible to get to a good Satoko moment.
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>>50601962
>Wanting to stay with her dearest friends who are pretty much her family
Makes sense
>Fucking off to St.Lucia because Rika really wants to go there for some reason and brutally murders her friends hundreds if not thousands of times becasue now she has some fucking weird obsession with Rika that came out of nowhere
doesn't make sense. I love Satoko more than anything, but how she was portrayed and how the story treated her in Gou is nothing less than fucking disgusting. Satoko could give less of a damn about the village if it wasn't where she was waiting for Satoshi to return to (Something Satoko doesn't seem to give a shit about in Gou btw) and where her friends are at.

>>50601966
Don't even bother to respond to that anon genuinely, he's just a butthurt retard who hates Satoko because he sees her as a threat to a ship.
>i’m not sure why i love satoko so much
There are a million and one reasons why someone might love Satoko more than anything, maybe it's her cute outfit or her radiant smile, maybe it's how sweet and kind she really is beneath her mask she puts on, maybe it's seeing her will power in action enduring Shions torture to the very end refusing to let herself be weak even if it is a brutal flaw in her character.
Satoko is a little girl enduring a hell no one her age should ever face, and yet despite how much she's been hurt and how much heartbreak she's had to deal with she's still someone who's kind and understanding going out of her way to check up and grow close to the new boy Keiichi. She's one of the most admirable and loving characters I've read in a VN and my love for her still hasn't gone down one bit since I read this story all those years ago
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>>50601971
>Satoko refusing to give in to her pain to Shion
>Satoko being the one to comfort Keiichi and tell him that his past doesn't matter in Tsumboroshi
>Satoko backstory reveal in Tatarigoroshi and how she really is once you get to spend some time with her
>Satoko solo'ing the moutain dogs
>Satoko finally learning that she doesn't have to suffer so that one day Satoshi can come back and see how strong she is
Yeah blow your brains out already faggot
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>>50601952
She's a cute karate kid.
I'd read a spin off about those three newbies.
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>>50601985
Anon... 90% of Tatarigoroshi she was off-screen.
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I still don't know if you guys (and girls) like or hate Satoko...
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>>50602014
Satoko has 50-60% of the screentime of Tatarigoroshi, and the reason for this is because the whole point of Tatarigoroshi was to make YOU the reader worried sick about how much Satoko was suffering using your imagination like Keiichi as to what was happening to her and when she finally has her mental breakdown (You) and Keiichi come to a synthesis in reasoning leading to the 1500 seconds moment and making you despise and wish death for Teppei.
It is a matter of IQ and reading comprehension not to understand this
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>>50602019
Only irony poisoned losers hate Satoko
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>>50602019
We like
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>>50602019
I'm Shion pilled on Satoko.
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>>50602019
There's two Satokos, one to like and one to hate
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>>50601945
probably because rena doesn't have two psychos obsessing ove rher like you and the teppeifag are doing for the last couple of years
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>>50602023
>>Satoko has 50-60% of the screentime of Tatarigoroshi
Anon... 90% of Tatarigoroshi she was off-screen.
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Are Chuds the bad guys in every Ryukishi story?
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Well yeah, he's openly into boys.
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It's a real shame Ryukishi wrote a story about AI before it all blew up and now if he ever starts writing it again it'll just be seen as a reactionary work.
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>>50603687
They are not the bad guys in any Ryuukishi story.
In Higurashi it was Nomura's moderate faction of Tōkyō who planned the GHD, Koizumi from the far-right faction was a good boy.
In Umineko the Italians are portrayed in a good light, Kinzo is the one who plots a the massacre.
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Rena’s boots look stupid
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>>50603700
oh irie… the pedophile with a heart of gold
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>>50596672
Rika... aren't you a bit too old to be dressing like this?
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>>50604515
And don't even get me started on mein furher from Higanbana, forced to take up the mantle of dictator to fight the evils of the bully-democracy.
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Finished Tsumihoroboshi yesterday. Probably my favorite chapter so far, but maybe that's because Rena was my favorite since the beginning. The last few chapters were so intense that I kept reading them for like 8 hours straight until I hit the ending. I liked the ending and the final fight, but the disaster happening right after it makes everything meaningless and really pissed me off.
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>>50605731
>but the disaster happening right after it makes everything meaningless and really pissed me off
Congrats! You have become Rika.
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Good news!
Ciconia phase 2 has a release date of May 2020!
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>>50606028
A succulent appetizer right before pride month.
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smol or big?
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>>50608066
I may have been damaged by the waifufag here, but I have to go with bigtoko. She's so much more compelling as a character when she has adult motivations, and PLOT. Gaki to mamoru doesn't really dokidoki my kokoro after enough whining. I want real characters with agency.
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>>50608271
>She's so much more compelling as a character when she has adult motivations, and PLOT
lol
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>>50608066
Both, I love her the same no matter how she looks
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>>50608066
both, although i wish her older design had a bit of a different hairstyle. maybe a side ponytail? i should draw that
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Why did she do it?
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>>50608066
Big. She's cuter.
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>>50608066
I like all Rika from 137cm to Mionmogging height
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>>50609822
If only our Rika knew that somewhere out there, there's a Rika that DID grow that womanly body she so badly wants.
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>>50605731
Hopefully you read with console sprites so Hatchet Rena's embarrassing down syndrome faces could keep you immersed in the story.
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>>50610408
Oh and on that note Bern from the epilogue was cute too
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>>50610580
epilogue bern still looks like a stick, bus stop Rika has some curves
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>>50610530
I was playing with the mangagamer sprites actually, and had to switch immediately because of how awful that was. I didn't like the console ones that much either, maybe because I don't like its artstyle, but they were still passable. This might have been the only instance so far where I thought these stupid sprites were getting in the way of my enjoyment.
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>>50610633
I'm mentally generous when it comes to Deen
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>>50610408
rika butt
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Good news!
Ciconia phase 2 will never be released!
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>>50604335
Art is always reactionary and always reflects contemporaneous truth. There are actually grown ass men who think that DDLC has "aged poorly" because of generative AI, completely missing the point. I'm sure you could make countless comparisons like this for other stories and themes.
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Sad news: My Jessica figurine was stolen

Glad news: I found another one in mint condition for cheap. One trip to Michaels later and rhe
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-shrine shall be complete, unlike the last post.

That being said, the framers never in when I call, so maybe I should look elsewhere?
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HIGURASHICHADS, UMINEKOBROS

WE FUCKING WON

MORO ARC CONFIRMED, SURELY UMINEKO ANIME IS NEXT IN THE WORKS, IT'S THE YEAR OF KISEKI
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>>50612305
I don't see how Dragon Ball confirms Umineko
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>>50612866
Have you never seen a shitposter in these threads before? You know the drill anon. If you engage with him you have already lost.
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>>50612866
Without love it cannot be seen
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>>50612938
Sperg….
Let it go.
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>>50612866
Don't talk to the attention whore please
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>>50612883
>>50613131
Right because the FBfag is soooo much worse than the daily garbage that usually plague these threads lmao
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>write longass mystery novel
>near the end
>become anxious that your answers will create a plot hole and won't be satisfying
>leave it open-ended
ryukishi dropped the ball with Umineko
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>>50613560
>pls respond haha
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>>50613643
Anon you lack love, it was never about the murder mystery. It’s about coming to terms with the fact that your entire family is dead and you are a ginger haired woman in Japan.
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>>50615364
well i could give you a very long winded answer about how you've grown attached to satoko after reading a massive VN with her as a central focus in several arcs so your interest in her transcends something as simple as tropes, or i could just say sextoko and be done with it
take your pick
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>>50615385
I want my interest in her to go beyond and transcend not in tropes but ropes
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>>50614603
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>>50613643
Nah. R07 always wanted to leave the story without answer. He even talks in the Higurashi's author notes for Minagoroshi he only ended up giving the answers because he knew people would get disappointed and angry if there wasn't a clear answer and also that there were already too many series that ended with ambiguous endings.

Umineko's ending, like Umineko's main plot itself (going heavy on Western aesthetics, western mystery basic plot set up) was R07 basically doing whatever he liked now he was coming from a huge success from Higurashi and had mor confidence as an author.
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>>50604515
>In Higurashi it was Nomura's moderate faction of Tōkyō who planned the GHD, Koizumi from the far-right faction was a good boy.
I mean, they're "moderate" but still all the same faction. The "moderate" faction gives the same far-right speeches in public events, it's just they are in it for the money. It's not like they were actually moderate politically.
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>>50617078
>"R07 basically doing whatever he liked"
And how did that turn out?
>flop Umineko anime
>nearly killed the 07th brand
>no motivation to write Ciconia
>07h brand resurrected by Higurashi Sotsu
Ryukishi is very self-indulgent like a vtumor woman, he desperately needs a Japanese manager and/or an editor to hold his feet to the fire.
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>>50617121
There so much wrong about those points that I cannot even begin to tell you how much of a shitbrain you are, anon.
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>>50617121
>07h brand resurrected by Higurashi Sotsu
Right that's why Gou is so beloved by everyone and Higurahsi is getting their 20th movie.
Fucking retard
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>>50617436
Higurashi is still getting new Sotsu branded merch. Like the race queen stuff and whatever they will make based on this illustration (they just said there will be new merch based on it, but didn't announce it yet).

Yeah, we don't have any new anime announced but if this kind of stuff continues an announcement wouldn't be surprising. (There's also a bunch of pachinko songs with release anywhere, and last time that happened it was because they were waint go release them alongside Gou/Sotsu opening/endings)
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>>50617436
>>50617494
Does Japan really like SotsuGou that much? Ryukishi seems to be doubling down on making Gou and Witchtoko the new norm in his newest writings you'd think if it was as widely despised he'd just back down.
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>>50617500
If Umineko had unambiguous answers Ryukishi wouldn't have to hold on to SotuGou for dear life.
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>>50617121
Lmao dumbest poster I’ve seen for a long time.
He had plenty of motivation to write Ciconia after Umineko. That’s when thing really went wrong,
The visual novel is mainly dead and Ciconia phase 1 did not work out.
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>>50617918
Ciconia came out years after Umineko ended and flopped.
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>>50617091
So the actual TND truechuds are wholesome goodboys while the "poser" fake chuds are evil?
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>>50609122
from the thumbnail the white and red from the bag looked like her hakama...
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>>50612240
>One trip to Michaels later and rhe
anon got demoned away....
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>>50613643
And then he went back on that in the manga anyway and the answer was still full of fuckass plotholes even though he'd had years to figure his shit out better by then.
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>>50618435
>plothole
name one without mentioning jessica
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>>50618435
The explanation is weird and requires almost the entire cast to have no sense of right and wrong, but I can't think of any actual plot holes. They're just rotten people.
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>>50617500
That Anon really said "race queen illustration, whatever this illustration is and pachinko music" and claimed we were in a renaissance.
A gacha EoS is 10x more proof of death than anything like that is proof of life.
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>>50618121
Yes.
He had plenty of motivation to write it. It takes time. Time during which horse girl gatchas rule the world.
Why do you take so long to take your meds?
>>50619118
Correct take.
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>>50617494
please be figures please be figures please be figures my shrine needs to grow
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Sweet little bumblebee I know what you want from me~
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Canonically speaking, only an uncle can give it to her.
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>>50620544
>>50620560
Aunt troonpei needs to be put down already
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>>50620564
Troons can't help but seethe non-stop whenever Satokei is posted for some reason
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>>50620572
It's best to just report and ignore that loser, xie will ack xirself soon enough anyhow
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In every single kakera.
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>>50620544
But she's only got an aunt
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>>50620780
Satoshi killed her.
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>check 07th account on twitter
>99% silent hill f retweets, nothing on wtc
it's over
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>>50621817
Finally we are free.
Ryukishi moved on.
We can do it too!
In the end all of his stories were about moving on.
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>>50620915
K1 did actually.
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>>50621479
This ship is terrible, Satoko is for Rika.
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>>50622362
Let it go nigga
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>>50621817
>Ruins his flagship series as one final fuck to his "fans" for not liking Umineko
>leaves
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>>50621479
Cute!!
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>>50619118
I'm not saying this is good, but it's a bunch of acrylics, hard boards and stickers based on the Race Queen illustrations, not just some promotional image on the web. Someone has to be buying this stuff.

And, like I said, the pachinko music is more about how it hasn't gotten a release anywhere, and the last time there was a delay like this it was because they wanted to bundle it with the Gou marketing/music. If they suddenly get a random standalone release, then, yeah, it doesn't mean much.
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>>50622362
you’re right, don’t let the retards silence you
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>>50622362
>>50622761
Daily reminder that Satoko will always belong to her one true love Keiichi
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>>50622787
Not enough info.
She loved him as she loved a friend like Mion or Rena. I can make that assertion. Also it’s a one off Kakera.
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>>50622802
>Not enough info.
No it's pretty clear if you actually fucking read the VN newfag, This is Satoko confessing to Keiichi all of her deepest innermost secrets from what she believes is to be mere seconds from death. It's a clear confession of romantic love.

> Also it’s a one off Kakera.
No again, Satoko and Keiichi grow this close after a mere 2 nights spent together with one of them not even being one on one. Keiichi hasn't even been in the village for over a month, them becoming this close isn't a random one off it's something destined to happen in every single fragment.
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>>50622787
>"loved you" (romantically)
>daisuki
How embarrassing. She said "I-I liked you..."
A confession would've required the use of 'aishiteru', especially since Satoko always tries to sound proper.
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>>50622821
>This argument
>again
You even used this gay ass point in your last post with you claiming she "loved" him as a friend (which is fucking retarded btw) Daisuki has been used in romantic confessions in countless Japanese stories, and in context of this scene where Satoko is LITERALLY revealing nearly every deep secret within her heart her saying "I-I loved you Keiichi... as a friend btw" clashes with the very point of this tragedy. Only bitter trannies like to take Daisuki in clearly romantic confessions and translate them to something else like seen here
https://litter.catbox.moe/emkjo5a8f5wwzkx2.mp4
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>>50622649
Yeah I hear you.
I wonder how much you could ascribe stuff like that to the inertia of the anime and not a set up for something new.
I just think there's no way they'd let the gacha end if *wink wink* there's something big down the line, don't worry.
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>>50622840
This is a correct and Kanon take.
Aishiteru is 8 to 10 Suki can be 2 to 10 it's all context.
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>>50622840
>claiming she "loved" him as a friend (which is fucking retarded btw)
you wouldn't know
you need to actually have friends to love them
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>>50622856
This, this shouldn't even really be a debate to anyone who actually read the VN.
>>50622860
>Utterly BTFO you're now just seething
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Stay mad, True love won!
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>would've required the use of 'aishiteru', especially since Satoko always tries to sound proper
This is actually pretty well done. Maybe if it were some kind of romantic setting she would drop that or "suki desuwa ohoho" but in the height of life or death emotion she drops the suki, when she stopped giving a shit about propriety or acting a certain way.
>one off kakera
The Tatari scenario actually happens enough times that Rika knows immediately when it begins. I'd actually go back further and say Tatari isn't needed to push K1 and Satoko together, the catalyst for their relation is in Satoko learning to cook.
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>>50622862
>True love won!
It sure did.
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>Spamming xir shitted cuck porn now
Why are anti-Satokei trannies like this?
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>posting once is spamming
Deranged.
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Seethe.
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Family members having fun is very wholesome!
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>>50622976
it really is
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>>50623002
>Troonppei looking frustrated is fun for Satoko
What causes this evilness?
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>>50623002
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>>50592266
Probably the #1 newfag question here but if you'll pardon my virginity:
I started playing the first chapter on Steam a while ago and while I had been enjoying it and very much appreciate them making the first game completely free, I noticed the modern-sounding music right off the bat as well as it of course not being made in nscriptr anymore. Would I have to go to the usual places for the original version, or are there fansites for that like what Tsukihime has? Not a very big deal I know but I always like to play the earliest iteration of something possible (same reason I haven't played Detective Famicom Club II on the SNES; I'll just wait until I understand Japanese well enough to play the NES version)

>>50594329
She's hot. Rika is much hotter but I would rape Mion's sizable tits anyday.
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>>50623075
You can either patch the game with 07th mod, or just download a prepatched version from the usual joints. 07th mod contains the original music, and tons of other options like voice acting, console art, etc. It lets you choose any configuration you want, including 100% OG experience.
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Years ago I patched Umineko with just Kinzo sprites and changed every name to Kinzo, with the exception of Ange, Okonogi and Amakusa.
My theory was that it was just Kinzo alone on the island being totally schizo so I made it real. Ange is in 1998 so I decided she was really Ange.
I am wondering how bad it would look if I swap all Satoko sprites in Higurashi for Kinzo and change the name. This time just because.
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What was Nanjo cooking here? The emblem of the Holy Roman Empire? I find the backstory of the gold pretty interesting, because it's so bizarre.
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sex with sextoko
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>>50622889
frankly i wish they'd make another higu dating sim, just because rika and satoko actually being written to properly love K1 without any holdbacks would be cute as fuck
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>>50623997
>every single bar of gold was mis-stamped in the same way
fucking retarded. literally just give him the chance to restamp the gold or melt/bar it in the first place after seeing a single instance of the damaged/modified symbol, there's no need for this shit
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>>50625730
rika team epic
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>>50625745
What about Teppei team epic?
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>>50625792
Trans boke? What's this 2021?
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>>50626031
>boke
That's just the sound effect Teppei's punch makes as it hits Satoko.
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Ratka virus aka Hinamizawa Syndrome
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Sorry GODKA smote your home village
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>>50626710
She had such a promising female boxing career... Shame K1 had to throw it away like that.
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>>50632876
Teppei really needs to stop jobbing to kids
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He certainly didn't job against Satoko.
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leave /vn/ alone
>>>>/vg/555805639
thanks
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>>50633795
Lmao.
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Silent Hill F spoilers

So the big plot twist is Hinako is a junkie who went on a rampage in delusion? Seriously? I heard good things about this game but this is not all there is to it right? I see that I still have 4 endings left but that was kind of strange at least.
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>>50634800
Are you actually playing that garbage? Lmao you're a fucking idiot you better pray you can get a refund
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>>50621817
He'll come crawling back, he always does
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>>50619359
i got mad and started making my own. satoko in the works

my hands are bruised from how hard the clay was and the irony of that is not lost on me
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>>50637743
>Nipah virus
Ciconia is never getting a new game.
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>>50628196
+1 day due to the snow. But I will show you all the power of super hyper post ironic waifufaggotry SOON
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I like Mion
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Said no one ever.
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>>50633795
but zhannon doesn't have a penis zhe lost it in the cliffenning
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>>50640963
Kei-chan does too
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>>50639062
Woah looks awesome anon!! Hyped to see the final product ganbatte!

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