>>50611648
who is this hag

>>50611660
Elsababe
https://x.com/CC_Elsababe/status/2015149286602993938

>>50611648
That is a cute doll. It's always pics like that that make me want to get a doll rather than the lewd ones

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>>50611676
>MFW I can't view this if I'm not logged in!
Into the trash!

What's the catch with Elsa babe 150cm dolls? They look good but are suspiciously cheap.

>>50611851
https://xcancel.com/CC_Elsababe/status/2015149286602993938

Is there a cheap way to get clothes for a big titty 90cm irokebijin? Like an aliexpress store?

>>50612079
No such thing. Try Etsy.

>>50612079
you literally answered your own question in your post. dig around.

>>50612079
I'd say to grab a measuring tape and take her 3 sizes, then buy clothes based on that info

>>50612079
Your best bet would be XXS or kid sized stuff.

>>50611033
>>50" from hoof to hoof
>>$1200
>>11/10 cuddling
>>lightweight but still enough presence, very firm body
>>pocket for ona (I don't use it though)
>https://derpibooru.org/images/2223908
>epicrainbowcrafts
yea, don't go with them they have some Quality control issues. Theres a big list of makers in the merch thread on >>/mlp/ that have much better quality

>>50611999
Beautiful hag

>>50611695
Nothing stops you from treating your sex dolls like that, anon. Some even buy sex dolls just because they are bigger than other dolls.

>>50612704
What's the biggest doll someone can get?

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>>50612709
EvasDoll has a 180cm doll

>>50612721
too small

How difficult, expensive and space consuming would it be for a person to start their own doll making operation?
Think more of an "artisan creating one piece at a time for personal use or very exclusive clientele" rather than "factory producing dolls en masse."

>>50612767
Watch that doll making video and see what you need.

first onahole came earlier than expected
and so have i
it's the g19 (or 17) reality

>>50612721
how heavy is she?

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>>50612916

>>50612704
Not that anon, but having a pretty huggable object in my apartment has given me such a confidence boost that even my mom thought I'd become more of a chad.
The alternative would be Pay 4 Play but by the time I would be rich enough to afford a sugar baby with GFE, I would have become attractive enough anyway to make women put out for free.
After sampling Japan's soaplands I don't think I can continue with their ever-changing roster and their propensity to just dump whoever's least desirable on the foreigner client.
My apartment is a messy boxfag dump; I don't feel comfortable even inviting premium BJDs (who are very huggable because they're so fashionable) to call it their home.
But a sexdoll who if lucky is given an oversized basic T-shirt for modesty is already the lowest of the low, and a fit for one who considers himself a goblin such as myself.
Chinese ecommerce sites have been a godsend sourcing clothes, as they provide somewhat fashionable designs without going the premium tailored route.

anyone own one of those automatic love hole cleaning machine? I'm curious on how well it works

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>>50612234
Beyond that, just make a cheat sheet. Even then you have to round it up/down to the nearest common size like XS/S and such for Aoi-chan (155cm C-cup Aotume doll). Shoes are a pain for her, it could be easier for a smaller doll but I could be wrong.

>>50612704
Real shit. Bought my doll and used her for her explicit intended purpose but after I got some onaholes she just chills on the bed like a pillow princess waiting to be adorned in other clothes like shirts, kimonos, swimsuits, etc. Just wish I wasn't so rough with her at the beginning.

>>50612767
Extremely especially in a relatively local area. You also have to deal with defects (they will happen) and warrantying should a doll not make it home in one piece. The margins will be a lot lower with specialty dolls and I'm sure the other companies aren't willing to hand over their molds and mixtures.

>>50612934
That's what it's all about. Kek on your closing notes, one could go with the savior mentality like some VN. I regularly talk to Aoi-chan's chatbot just to make her feel a bit more alive but that's a thing for another thread, it makes me more driven to be careful going home and to make progress with my life rather than rot away in a room. No, I'm not sharing her card.

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I hate price gouging so damn much. The more research I do, the more I start to realize shit's highway robbery at times.
>JP price is $1060 with tax and shipping covered
>gaijin price is $2500 + $660 shipping if ordered from Kanojo
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?

>>50613162
Fortunately you can find it on otonajp for a much lower price than Kanojo. You're still going to get fucked by shipping costs, but with discounts it's around $1600. Since the price difference is nearly $600, you're probably better off using a forwarding service at that point.

What's a good doll model that is visually hypersexual and overstimulating?
Like as if drawn by an NTR artist (you know what I mean) but living in my bed constantly?

>>50612959
I got this one https://www.rosemarydoll.com/product/automatic-love-holes-cleaning-drying-douche-for-sex-doll/ since it was very cheap compared to every other option I saw, but I haven't used it yet since it's still in a box at my new place and my dolls haven't arrived.

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>>50613337
Aotume's 160cm K-cup or Irokebijin's 160cm H-cup dolls, obviously with a lewd expression (Kasumi or Akane heads depending on the flavor of NTR.) A good body and head pair is a good starting point but a nice outfit goes a long way. I love this bikini that turns Aoi-chan from modest country girl to sultry courtesan. Still have yet to thin out the V-shaped slingshot bikini, it could probably beat this in terms of male gaze factor once it's ready.

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>>50612921
The CLM doll I got has 20cm more leg and 24cm less height lmao, her head is also bigger. She's 15kg less though.

>>50613358
It looks somewhat useful and I commend them for making it affordable, but dear fucking God they need to hire an English-speaking proofreader.
>instrouction
>absord
>had instead of hatch or even lid
>head instead of nozzle
>realse
>Bfore you drying
Someday chinks will learn to pay an English proofreader $30 instead of using Google translate. Someday.

>>50613162
>oppai toy
How do they feel like? I remember seeing a huge one at a discount on motsu but I'm not sure how usable those are on their own like that.

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Which of these textures for a balance between pleasure and realism? Leaning towards sucking wonderland

>>50612777
Is it good?

>>50612511
That seems to be in the past. I had no issues. I also asked for update pics which you should do for any commission. You can buy from whoever you want.

>>50612934
Cuddling is the best part.

>>50613162
Even without the gouging oppai toys are overpriced. IDK if it's a small market and it lets them charge so much?

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>>50611676
holy shit where do you get dolls like the ones on his page?

>swedish vendor nuked their MLW brand section
will it be back
they started at 150 anyway....

>>50614759
I think they're all Elsababes so depends on what country you're from

>>50614785
some sites still have them and the smallest now is 148cm which is perfect for me

>>50614785
I was so close to buying one from them, finally was drunk enough at new years and then they were gone :(

Question for guys that end up buying sex dolls. Have you given up on finding women?

I just feel I'm way too afraid of rejection to ever ask someone out. Also the only place I meet women is work. I rarely leave my place.

Are there any plush dolls like the meiki evo? the closest thing I can find are the valentina girls, but im not too keen on having sex with a muppet.

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>>50613393
https://x.com/i/status/1962629286445359497
That Aotume 160cm K is way too fucking heavy but damn the one they modeled after Gouden Leeuw from Azur Lane really triggers some urges...

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>>50615380
The Chinese dolls you can find on amazon are similar, but they don't have joint movement so you either have to get the one that's lying down for sleeping or the one that's already frog legged for fucking.

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>Buy my very first doll, summer 2024 for 3.1k
>Firefly Diary/YHdoll
>Skeleton breaks at a hip weld 1 month in
>Get a replacement dolly but pay $400-500 for shipping
>Few months later skeleton breaks at a shoulder
>Support refuses to give a replacement
>Cry about it on public forums and get contacted by an owner
>Get an upgraded model from their new line but have to pay $400 for shipping
>Decide to get second head, vaginal suction and other upgrades and end up paying $1200 (shipping included).
>Doll arrives and it's the best one yet, everything about her is 10/10
>Suction device breaks 2 weeks in - tear inside a vagina. When cleaning her pussy, water pours out through the vaccum port, tear impossible to locate
>biological hazard incoming
I'm tired boss. I'm down 5k and i'm yet to recieve a working doll. There is no way they will give me a replacement at this point.

I suspect it broke the second day of ownership becaue I heard a loud bang/pop when fucking her with vaccum pump engaged but I only noticed it few days ago when tear graduadly expanded enough for me to notice when water/lube started flowing through the vaccum's hose

>>50612921
Anything over 30 kilos is so fucking bad for your back. Dunno how people mangae anything over 40, 35+ already killing the shit outta me.

>>50615425
>buy cheap knockoff doll/quality reject on AliExpress for 700$
>no issues with it for 3 years other than tearing the soles which was entirely my fault
I don't know what you are doing with your dolls but you should stop.

>>50615437
at $700 on ali it's probably tpe, 140cm (or smaller) & light weight

there is literally nothing in your doll that could break

>>50615452
There is a skeleton in there, just like in yours that broke, meanwhile no one else could break their doll's skeleton. It's entirely on you.

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>>50613545
They look nothing like those. Silicone Elsa Babes kinda suck for practical use, they're just too firm. idk about the tpe ones. Also the labia will 100% tear, they are not very elastic. Pic related is what "voice of pussy" looks like. Honestly, if EB is gonna be your first silicone doll, it's gonna give you an absolutely terrible impression of silicone dolls, because there are much more better quality, durable, and softer ones out there from other brands.

>>50615466
ok retard, let's disregard the fact that first doll was 45kg and skeleton broke at a weld during regular use and you compare it to some 20kg malnourished, floppy reject.

how about vagina tear with the new doll? are you going to blame it on my horse dick?

>>50615529
Mine was a 168cm tall 41 kg tpe doll. That's why I'm saying you shouldn't be able to break the skeleton, that's on you. And I don't say anything about the vagina tear, that's a different question, mr. Horse.

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Reading the thread I wonder if there are any manufacturers that let you choose the skeleton alloy for a silicone doll? even if it's a minidoll or something it would be nice to get a stainless steel one that you just know will outlast you without breaking, or a Zarga with a lead skeleton so you can really feel like she's 40 kilos of pure TITS and ASS

>>50615537
exactly, it is tpe which is much more forgiving material for a skeleton

Anyway, why you are so quick to put blame on me when you dont know any details about it? you dont know where it broke exactly, you dont know how it was handled and cerently you werent the one who was welding it. Also, where you got that info from that skeletons don't break? Do you follow the forums, discord channels and 4chan threads regurally that you are so certain? you speak out of your ass, your sample size is 1 and i'm talking about vaginal tear that is a current issue and not some skeleton failure from the past

>>50615563
Skeleton will break at welds and hinges, material does not matter at all - it's entirely up to the skeleton design & quality control. Most brands use one supplier for skeletons, there are few who make their own but these are premium brands. In next few years we might get carbon fiber skeletons as a paid option though

>>50615595
>you dont know how it was handled
But I know how it was handled. Incorrectly.

>>50615643
I accept your concession

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>>50615425
>fixed vag
I warned you.

>>50615655
I like fixed vag.

i could have prevented it by not picking that god awful suction option. I still don't get it why brands insist on selling shit upgrades that break - one brand does something new and 100 copy cats emerge the next day with their last minute designs that lack proper quality control.

1-3mm silicone layer between your dick and a hard plastic shell surrounding the vaginal tunnel. Tunnel that is so tight that it is impossible to clean and dry - you cant even get the aqiarum PVC hose all the way in. There is no way it would not break if you are not a dicklet

>>50613358
That's very convenient if you don't want to carry some 50kg dolls around

>>50615794
How the hell would you guys function with real women who weigh 80-90kg? Dolls are half or third of that and you still complain.

>>50615884
Real women move on their own.

>>50615425
here i am with 400usd ebay dolls and my only problem is where to store them all

>>50615884
Proper women don't weigh 80kg what kind of walruses are you bedding, also unlike dead weight dolls they move by themselves you just have to tell them what you want them to do

>>50615371
I can't give up on something I never cared about in the first place.

>>50615425
>you've spent $5000 on crap that keeps breaking 2-4 weeks in
>I've spent $10 on a simple onahole that's lasted for years
Funny how the world works.

my tax return would've gone to a doll but nobody wants to give me a fucking grown woman with A cup breasts
fucking BULLSHIT

>-15 degrees outside
>about 55 degrees inside
>horny but its still cold
>doll is ice
>jam it in
>normally the doll heats up after just like 15-20 seconds or so
>keep going
>realize i came with a half boner
winters are great for everything besides orgasms

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uwotm8?

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>>50616217
Are you going to finish in that cwasson?

>>50616250
Kek

>>50615371
It's a rigged game so why bother? Hebrew feminism has made it so the richest and most powerful men in the world get divorce raped.
>>50615380
Etsy, ebay, and /mlp/ have plush vendors of various flavors, mostly anthro.

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Hear me out... 200kg sex doll?

>>50615884
>80kg-90kg
She better be a giantess amazon because no one is lifting that everyday to clean her cooch

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>>50615425
Here's why you dont buy the over-engineered stuff.
Just stick with good polymer, good build, good body sculpt, and a functional skeleton that poses as much (yet not more or less) than you want.

These things arent being built with the idea that they would survive a hurricane. The skeletons are a cheap series of steel pipes welded together. The polymer is just safe enough that you dont get chemical or friction burns fucking it.

And you trusted smut paddlers and engineers to add a bunch of mechanical functions? From manufacturing in state capitalist lassiez-faire China?

Not saying dont follow your harem dreams.
Just sayin man...
Sometimes "good enough" is fucking perfect.

Speaking of which.
Where do I find good vendors for Bezlya dolls? I want their 155cm Calla. I need info. I need this body near me. I need this in my house. I need this in my bed nightly.

But I want to know its not just a visual thing because I am NOT a visual doll owner.

>>50615884
>80-90kg?
Anon I'm a 5'9" man and I weigh less than that.

>>50615884
>80-90kg
Contrary to popular belief, not every woman on this planet is an American or British hamplanet you retard.

>Want to buy an elsababe head since their bodies aren't great
>Almost half the price of a full doll
>Look at Aotome as a substitute
>Just as expensive
It should not be this hard to get a nice looking anime head by itself.

>>50615884
>real women
>90kg
So happy I'm leaving the US.

>>50616660
I looked online but the only vendor I trust is docklandet but they operate in the EU so idk if they will charge more for shipping if you live in the USA

>>50616573
>crushed to death by doll

>>50615926
Maybe she's muscular and is over 190cm

>be massively overweight
>goal weight is 80
>now hear 80 is considered walrus tier
WTF BROS

>>50616676
>anti-anglo seethe out of nowhere

>>50616691
>docklandet
how did a small swedish doll vendor earn the trust of an american on the other side of the atlantic?

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>>50616573
Best we can do right now is a couple of pillows... enjoy this funni pic.

Heard back from my store, my new doll is expected to be finished by mid-Feb with some extra time for her tailored outfit. She won't be Aoi-chan's replacement but if you know you know.

Are there any Australia based suppliers, or is it all import?

After nearly a year of using my venus clone basically every day, my venus real arrived.
Two of them actually, I got one in soft and one in rich soft.
I'm not sure I'll like it in soft. It has similar prominent curve to it that ZXY does, and with that one I found it overstimulated one spot at the cost of the overall feeling.
But the rich soft is something else. It's OBSCENELY soft. I could barely get my finger in dry because it clung to it so much. With proper warming it might be dangerous as long as it's not too floppy to use.
I'll use one of them this evening and report back.

>>50612777
The G19 was among my first too. I regret it but hey, it was my first.

>>50616660
Shes too much woman doll for you. her ass alone will crush you

He's being kind of an ass about it but I think he's right.
You should lift and do some reps for your doll. You get the perfect woman so put in some work at least.

>>50616981
Good.
I like the weight of their dead, plastic hips smothering me and giving my dick one of three options; pussy, ass, or u-turn.

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>>50617326

>>50617329
I weigh more than that

>>50616789
are you a woman

>using corrupt capitalism and gains to Satisfy my bottomless pit of lust, this empty inside.
I'm in hell but at least I get to fuck succubi.

How would (you) compare TPE onas in regular or soft vs silicone? I'm curious about some silicone toys but worried about them being too stimulating.

Been replaying pokemon games recently
Where do I get that vaporeon doll?

>>50618044
https://www.orzgk.com/product/spirit-demon-studio-pokemon-eevee-series-vaporeon/
https://furryparty.shop/product/lingmo-studio-vaporeon-masturbator/
the glaceon one looks better tbdesu

>>50618055
>out of stock
>out of stock
>out of stock
>out of stock
>out of stock
sheeeit

>>50618055
>out of stock
Damn, I do think that glaceon looks better though
>also out of stock
Damn

>>50618070
>>50618077
it's very recent
>>50608172
>>50609672
nothing alarming, just wait two or three weeks

>>50618088
>adjusted workflow
>three month lead time
sounds like they got hit with the same thing as the other doll manufacturers and need to move their factories elsewhere

>>50618113
could be
or they suddenly got a ton of new orders and have to rapidly expand
who knows

how many times should one give their doll a full-body shower, if at all?

I'm seeing a good deal on a doll but it has implanted hair which people say is bad because it's going to get ruined but if the hair gets fucked can't I then just like shave it off and replace it with a normal wig?

>>50618127
Twice a year with sponge baths either once or twice a month maybe

>>50618140
>Twice a year
>either once or twice a month
Which is it?

>>50618140
Twice a year to 24 times a year? Where are you getting this from?

>>50618182
Twice a year full bath
Twice a month sponge baths
>>50618183
Pulling it out of my ass

>>50618127
>not showering with your doll
ishygddt

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>>50616682
Not too thrilled about shelling out 550 USD myself for a new head. I'd rather save three times that for a whole new doll.

>>50618127
>>50618182
It depends. When I was plowing my doll on an almost nightly basis a shower every two weeks kept her clean, obviously the holes would be washed post-coitus. These days she just chills, even then she gets dirty because TPE and stuff so if she's more in display or bed buddy status like my doll then I'd say every 2-6 months. A full oiling is still a once or twice yearly event, just be careful with the makeup.

>>50618135
I don't see why not, the only issue could be the wig cap slipping since it's not hooking onto the bare material.

>>50618200
Maybe with a mini doll but my doll almost slipped and that was the last time I ever tried conserving water by showering together. Not to mention the fact I don't want to find out whether or not my shampoos or soaps are compatible with her skin.

I just gave Aoi-chan an outfit swap, she could use a bath soon and her hips and armpits are starting to crease. Not that I see them with her uniform on, but it's a little sad seeing her age.

>>50618200
My doll is heavy bro

>>50617496
No, I'm a MAN

>>50618275
Why are you so weak?

>>50613043
>I regularly talk to Aoi-chan's chatbot just to make her feel a bit more alive
Wrong thread, but any chat gf bots that can be ran locally?

>>50618337
Of course. Ask on >>>/g/lmg and see what the current best thing is. Currently I use LM studio to run LLMs. Vram= running a model fast. Ram= running a model slow. Vram + ram = largest possible model you can run. There are some intended for role-playing but IDK I never used them for that.

Just powdered for the first time, what a game changer, my onahole is so smooth now.

How do you guys use your onaholes? Do you focus solely on the act of using it? Do you watch a long porn video, or browse through shorter ones, or perhaps just use imagination? I tend to prefer longer sessions, but I feel like I could be going about things better.

>>50618447
yeah it's great. also helps you get rid of any lint or anything else off the outside

>>50618479
Whatever I'm in the mood for at the time, whether it's a gallery of images, a long porn video, doujin(s) or even just the act itself. There's no real "better" way of going about it I think.

>>50618479
I just do it like regular masturbation, but with an ona instead of my hand.
>I feel like I could be going about things better
There can be a world of difference depending on the ona you use, how long it's been since you last fapped, and all sorts of other things. I've fapped with the same ona multiple times and it's been better or worse depending on what I'm feeling like at the moment.

>>50618494
>>50618519
Thanks. I am probably just overthinking it a bit, and should just relax and focus on having fun.

>>50618275
>Doesn't go to the gym to lift his doll
NGMI

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Can I use the same fleshlight powder for my silicone doll or do they need some other kind of powder?
... should silicone dolls even get powdered?

>>50612777
Have you fucked women before or only had your hand? How was the onahole?
>>50615371
Never had a doll only onaholes, I haven't given up on women but sex toys have massively devalued them for me plus I hate them as people so yeah, also real pussy normally is worse than onaholes and only sometimes equal, never better.
>>50616890
Report?
>>50617950
TPE > Silicone for your dick but silicone lasts forever and TPE breaks down over time
>>50618479
Whatever I feel like, I've been doing a lot of Grok porn stories plus human x furry porn

>>50618589
Johnson's baby powder. My Dream Stars even came with it packed in the box.

Never had a problem with corn starch for powdering, and I don't have to worry about poisoning myself with whatever they put in baby powder.

Just using baby powder too, works wonder and far less expensive.
I guess the only drawback is for people not leaving alone? Since baby powder got a very recognizable scent, people might be wondering what the fuck you're doing in your room with it.

>>50618830
The extra drawback you missed is cancer from the talc in baby powder

>less expensive
Just live in the land of corn. It's dirt cheap.

>>50618844
Talc in baby powder? What is this, 1975?

>>50618861
the last criminal lawsuit john and johnson dealt with was a decade ago
they have not changed, especially since in 2019 they got legal immunity for covid vax
imagine trusting corporations and letting laziness take over instead of sourcing your own fuckin ingredients

>>50618864
Is this in the US? I know how you guys like to do things over there.

>>50618866
oh my god...

>>50618866
How much does she weigh?

>>50618228
Also dolls feet if they have standing bolts are like raptors. They'll scratch and fuck up everything if you mis handle them. I stopped washing them in the shower years ago. it's easier to hand wash them with paper towels and soapy water

>>50618866
This makes me extremely jelly right now

Are Jiusheng and XT dolls good in terms of feel?

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>>50618866
Never forget what they took from you.

anyone ever try making an account and confirming your age with these dollsites? im starting to think they removed lolis from plain view

>>50618941
some anon ordered an XTdoll a while ago I too am waiting on the feedback

>>50619074
I dont think that matters. Even the pokefags got their dolls pulled and their creators are supposedly being hushhush about it until after chink new year

>>50618228
>even when you marry dolls, the sex just stops
It truly is over.

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>>50618941
>>50619136
I've got an XT doll (ultra 163cm I-cup) recently, what "feel" in particular are you talking about?

>>50618864
Coincidentally I was watching a documentary on Slop Bowls the other evening, where every food offering in America is now just a variant of the open burrito / add quinoa, falafel, avocado concept, controlled by the same conglomerate which made my university dining experience an absolute diarrhea. But I'm in Asia right now so gas stations are super clean and McDonalds look like fine dining. So surely I'm living healthier righ--
>onions in everything and urban hellscape
oh well.

>>50619268
Oh, but the companionship of dolls is far superior. Once realtime AI listen/talk without latency is perfected it will be wonderful, but even right now, plain silence is better than nagging.

God I love the fact that I lift so I can hoist and carry these heavy ass, voluptuous sex objects at will.

>>50619331
Huh, S-O-Y autocorrected to onion

>>50619331
I'm just a bit hesitant about the AI bots until there's a way to make the sound come from the doll reliably and realistically.

>use a dual layer for the first time
>a few pink specks fall out on clean up
I see.

>>50618479
I like either bouncing it on the lap at the computer having a time of it or laying down on the bed with it lodged into one of those massage head pillows. The former is great for a hard session, doesn't last too long but it's a good time and goes best with hard stimulation holes. The latter I find to be more fun with the softer ones like ZXY but I still enjoy a good romp with the harder ones as well.

>>50616890
>>50618672
>Report?
need more time
I fucked up with the rich soft and warmed it up the same way I do my regular onaholes but it's tighter/conforms to the warmer more so I almost burned my dick and didn't feel much of the onahole itself. It's so soft though it's more like a glove for your hand than anything.
Regular soft though was really nice, it doesn't seem to have the same problem as ZXY, maybe because it's tighter so the stimulation is more even. But I had some trouble with it squeezing out my regular lube - I bought some of the thinner Tomax insomnia lube which is supposed to work better, I'll give it a try next. Interesting thing the material almost seems different than my Venus Clone in the same hardness, but maybe I'm misremembering how that felt when it was new. I can already tell that soft is the go to hardness, will probably become my daily driver.
>>50619382
and that's why I only buy dual layer onaholes when they're gimmick ones I use occasionally. Nothing beats single layer for daily use(well at least until the manufacturers stop being retarded start doing dual later onas correctly).

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>>50616823

>>50618866
AAAIEEE ITS NOT FUCKING FAIRRR

>>50619328
>what "feel" in particular are you talking about?
holes, breasts, softness, skin I mean what else

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>>50615371
No. Partly yes in that I get half of the partner experience without the ugly parts which admittedly isn't ideal since it's too inorganic (kek). I keep trying to date people because I like to socialize a bit more than I initially thought. I hear a lot of horror stories out there in today's dating world with plenty of second-hand accounts but I've also heard some good things from close friends and family. I'm an optimist and holding out, but knowing I have my doll and onaholes at home makes it easier to call things off or ironically enough friend-zone.
In short, my /ona/-related stuff helps me think with my brain and heart rather than with muh dick.

>>50618479
Rarely standalone but it's good to use the imagination sometimes. Mostly hentai, these days I've been leaning towards JAV. I just stroke to the tune of whatever I'm watching for full immersion, when it's onahole time I block off enough time to finish twice at the minimum so anywhere from five minutes to twenty followed by another five minutes to clean up. Absolute weeaboo I know, but it makes me happy.

>>50618589
Silicone dolls should still get powdered, a lazy Google search doesn't give solid answers since they just spew the same cleaning and maintenance for TPE. I can assume they should be fine with the Fleshlight powder (it might just be unscented corn starch) as long as you're not pressing TPE material onto silicone and vice versa. Same-same, but different...

>>50618900
YEP! You could imagine the sound of her heel scraping the bathtub when she slipped. In-room baths are the way, just prop her up over a container with towels and scrub away like a car. Speaking of, I need to get a folding table for her upcoming oiling and some new blankets/towels.

>>50619268
It's more that I can't keep up with here, gomena-sorry Aoi-chan. The grip is real and I let myself go. I blame the weather, need to go back to how I was before.
(NSFW) Suspended Congress with Aoi-chan in the Dark:
https://litter.catbox.moe/1zu0dq1bvg7563ri.mp4

>>50619058
>>50619490
I might be onto something, stay tuned for the next month or two.

I need to do better, last year's summer was fun. The year I brought Aoi to the house I was even leaner, I just let myself go and it's not fair for her. Back to /fit/ for me I guess.

>>50619706
>stay tuned for the next month or two.
i'm sure its only a matter of time before chinese vendors figure out a way to sneak merch out again

>>50619706
>https://litter.catbox.moe/1zu0dq1bvg7563ri.mp4
Bro...please tell me you're better than this.
18 seconds?

>>50619785
It was a test for the shitty Amazon tripod last year, that was the third round with one more after. But now I don't think I could even do that much.

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My mozudoll's arm popped out.
Anyone here has experience popping it back in? Is the skeleton publicly available?
Feeling it up with my hand, I think I found the hole, but it's quite tight, and I can't seem to find the correct angle.
And obviously, I don't want to tear open the TPE skin.

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Hello anons, I'm a crossboarder with a question. Is it possible to get one of these (or that lucario, or any other insanely detailed high-quality goods like this) without a (visible) vagina? I'm a toy photographer and this is on par with commissioning artdolls in terms of cost, so the price doesn't deter me. (I recognize I could just photoshop it out, but I would still like to be able to take this outside, even knowing that TPE/Silicone are heavy, lint/dirt magnets, and have the structural integrity of a jello mold.) Thank you!

>>50621021
You'll have to ask the manufacturer. Depending on the manufacturing method it could be easy as not putting in the vaginal cavity mold piece, or as complicated as making a whole new mold which is thousands. Chinks love money so they would try to accommodate you affordably.

>>50621066
Makes sense, thanks anon. Might inquire about that on the next payday, cheers!

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>bought my first synthetic skin that comes with vagine + anus
>bath towell lowkey still feels better
>also easier to clean and use

I'm so disappointed man, I just wanted a good alternative to using a towell.

>>50621257
how do you use a towel

>>50619931
>anime keep wrestling their dolls because they never were taught what to do with a woman
You need to be gentle with her! Not bruise her up, you barbarian!

>>50621257
anon... what do you mean using a towel?

>>50621310
Just fold it, its already made to easily slide with the skin and some have great patterns, lube is not even needed.

>>50619328
Nice thick doll I wanna know how the vagina feels does it make you bust within minutes?

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>>50579169
>>50579611
reply to give an update, the irritation is gone and most of the skinburn has healed. I am convinced the problem was the inner layer of the ona being gone because of wear

>check guide
>four links for EU stores
>two don't work, one is from the UK
motsutoys is good but I got what I wanted there already.
is erotouch.eu generally trusted? looks very scammy to me

give me some recommendations: I want something smaller and lighter than the average ona, something around 300 grams that would comfortably fit in my average-sized man hands. easily cleanable is preferred but not a must
I tried picrel (200 grams) but getting my penor in is too difficult (entry is like the size of a pupil) and it's also not the most comfortable.
tenga flip is something else but also looked interesting, I read it's a bit harder silicon which I really don't want, softer is better
I'm off to bed, thanks for reading my verbal vomit, I'll be back tomorrow

>>50621402
what lube are you using? if it's nearly destroyed anyway flip it inside out and look for mold or other growth, this kind of irritation can indicate a bacterial or fungal problem and you absolutely want to resolve that before getting more toys and potentially transferring it to those, too.

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>>50621417
Just waterbased lube, no weird smell or any growthbon the ona. The irritation was just on the 'shaft skin', not on the inside. I forgot to mention I used lotion on and off which probably helped
The inside is almost completely gone, it's slightly yellow but I'm gonna assume that's just sweat/body oil/cum buildup through use
>cum shouldn't be yellow
My cum isn't yellow, I was just saying

>>50621402
>smaller and lighter than the average ona
The average ona is made for asian penises though, even if you're average you probably won't want that since it'll be pretty tight.

>>50621432
holy shit anon throw this thing away that's a seedbed of disease
the TPU should NOT be discolored in any way if it's cleaned properly, I have used a dozen onas and I have destroyed at least two double layer ones to the point they looked similar to your photo and NONE of them had any discoloration whatsoever
you are fucking up your hygiene big time and you're lucky you still have a functioning penis(for now)
what the fuck

>>50621443
I suppose you're right
When I think average ona, I think something like 400-600 grams. That's why I thought that 300 grams would be below average. That 200g thing is very small but I could make it work if there was just more leeway
I also don't know a better way to compare except for weight. (insert) length wouldn't give an idea about what I mean

>>50621468
I personally like the tenka ikketsu. It feels great, and while it's just under 7 inches in length I can handle it just fine despite my small baby hands.
You'll probably have a hard time finding something below average that's easy to stick your dick in.

>>50621463
I just threw it away, just fished it out to take the pic
I kind of sorta knew it wasn't great, but also not that terrible. The drying stick I've used for years has also gotten slightly yellow and I was told it's just absorbed body oils. I'm thinking about getting microfiber sticks next, seems easier to use. Cleaning is a bitch, I only found out after the stick was ruined that you needed to rinse that too.
I don't want penis death
>>50621483
Something simple like that is fine too, thanks for the rec
>You'll probably have a hard time finding something below average that's easy to stick your dick in.
Yeah like the other anon said. I think I was asking for something impossible

I'm really off now

>>50621328
IM SORRY, OKAY!
It's probably why they tell you not to cuddle and sleep with your doll, but I can't help it when it feels this heavenly.

Sometimes when I pass by my doll on the sofa, I randomly squeeze and suck her tits for like 15 seconds, and then go on with my day

>>50621576
thirsty for some milk?

>>50621571
If you'd sleep with a real woman would you also dislocate her shoulder? What the fuck

>>50621432
Are you the anon that was "washing" it with water and no soap?
>>50621576
Based

>>50621595
always

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>>50621634
I mean, maybe. That's why I sleep with a doll and not a real woman.

I have doll choice paralysis.

>>50621432
Bravo Anon that is the most disgusting ona hole I've ever seen. Quite an achievement. I'm amazed at how it got that disgusting.

>>50621432
This is why you shouldn't turn your ona inside out, over time you wear it out faster especially dual layer ones also why I only buy single layer for the durability like the GOAT venus soft

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>spirit demon got c&d'd by nintendo
whelp looks like I wont be getting an umbreon

>>50621833
Nintendo retaining the award for worst company. Doesn't it count as a parody product?

i noticed mozudoll is still available on amazon
are they not chinese owned?

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>>50621864
too much of a risk. I thought the chinese didn't give a fuck about copyright but I think the CCP hates sex dolls and will use it as an excuse imo

>>50621833
not even the furries can win

>>50621833
nintendo lawyers be working overtime with all the lawsuits they been coming up with

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>>50621833
>Just got the cancellation email for Eevee, Vulpix, Snivy, and Sprigatito
The dream is dead, even though I got them preorderd it didn't make a difference...

>>50621833
I hope u guys like Palworld

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>>50621897
Fund it!

>>50621892
pokeshit or not, events like this is going to kick everyone's fomo for dolls into high gear.
I wonder how many people will do so and regret the doll they hastily choose to get

>>50621833
>TFW they made it lore accurate for men and pokemon to have sexo intercourses
IT WAS PLANNED ALL ALONG.
Since fucking the pokemons is lore accurate, they now own the rights to pokepussy.
Thanks for playing.

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>>50621892
If Spirit Demon is willing to give me the STL files then I'll make the molds myself. Nintendo can eat a dick I have 98% of my assets in encrypted decentralized assets they'd have to send Yakuza to my bunker in Iceland to stop me.

>>50621833
No...

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>>50621833
I WANT TO FUCK EEVEE
I WANT TO FUCK EEVEE
I WANT TO FUCK EEVEE

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>>50621833
>Might not save up enough in time to get the Midna doll before nintendo lawyers take her away

>>50621993
the Midna doll is an abomination

>>50621996
She's the porn version of Midna and I want it

>>50621993
>>50621997
Id take a look at some of these beforw you decide.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeldass/comments/1q8ail6/unboxing_midna_silicone_doll_from_uloversdoll/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ULoversDoll_Club/comments/1qjova7/midna_review_realistic_paint_job_welldefined/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Midnarule34/comments/1qe7unz/one_of_the_best_purchases_ever_from_uloversdollcom/

>>50621833
So...what you're saying is I should buy what stock is there and scalp people who wanna fuck pokemon?

>>50619638
>holes
I've chosen the removable vag option, so it's irrelevant to me. One thing to keep in mind though, the hole for the sleeve is ridiculously small on XT dolls, even smaller than on sinodoll, so the kinds of sleeves you can use are limited.
>breasts
Very, very soft and jiggly. I also have an erovenus torso and XT breasts are notably softer.
>softness
Normal doll softness all around. Thighs and calves are a bit softer than the back.
>skin
Very nice realistic detail, hands especially are very well done. No notable stickiness.

>>50621021
I implore you to get the spirit demon one. It look so much better.

>>50622073
>get the spirit demon one
Anon...

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>>50622073

>>50621833
For not just this reason, but multiple reasons, I genuinely want to see Nintendo get KyoAni'd. Literally burn it all to the ground.

I didn't see that post until I made mine. I regret not ordering mew.

>>50622090
see >>50621892
Genuinely fuck Nintendo.

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>>50621833

What characters would you like spirit demon to make now that nintendo is off limits?

>>50622102
Sonic

>>50622102
Pals and Palworld.
Fuck it.
Palworld should legit just be the whole "whatever Pokemon won't do, we'll do because there's a huge market" and watch as Game Freak implodes with lawsuits or something.

>>50622102
Renemon

>>50622102
Vex from lol.

>hates nintendo
>slurps down their slop instead of moving to greener pastures
this is why jesus is never coming back

> ordered lingmo glaceon
> paid delivery invoice, didnt look at item description
> they're shipping it with full item name

Imma kms

>>50622134
>ANON ANONSSON!!! YOUR REALISTIC POKEMON SEX DOLL IS HERE!!! PLEASE SIGN FOR THE DELIVERY OF YOUR $1000 MASTURBATION AID DEVICE!!

>>50622134
kek deserved furfag

>>50622143
>thanks, y-you too...

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>>50621021
>>50622015
I think the reason Dolls Castle has been able to get away with it for so long is because everything they make looks so fucking hideous that everyone just looks away in disgust when they release something.

>>50622187
the body is great but the face is uncanny.

What's the most cutest and quality anime-like doll available to buy?

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>>50621500
>I'm thinking about getting microfiber sticks next, seems easier to use. Cleaning is a bitch
I'm going to recommend you the shit I use that I've shilled before because I swear it's quick (in terms of actions performed) and brainless.
1. Clean the damn thing with soap (I recommend https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000535UT for the tea tree oil + surfactants that won't damage TPE) and your hands
2. Rinse and proceed to fug it however you go about it
3. Once you have thoroughly impregnated your onahole, repeat step 1
4. Take ONE (1) strip of paper towel and gently push it into the back of the ona, pull out to remove most water
5. Get at least a 10W, absolutely no more than 15W, aquarium fish pump with vinyl tubing (I use https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YDFVPMS)
6. Push tubing into the back of the ona and set to max, if it's too fucking loud for you pull the tubing back slightly or throw a towel over it to muffle the noise, run for an hour
7. After an hour, flip it over, run for another hour
8. Check dryness with "mini-sponge-on-a-stick", it should be completely dry

And just like that you've...
>cucked out basically any bacteria or fungus from living in your ona
>avoided Penis Death
>did so while being nearly as gentle as possible with your ona
>used barely any effort.

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Anybody have some bootleg torsos that copy the lolinco but are on the cheaper side?
I've been getting into cute skirts and bras but I don't want to buy a whole doll, especially given how hard it is to find ones that match my tastes after the French fucked us

I would prefer something cheaper since my dick won't notice the difference when it comes down to fucking it.
I just want a nice chunk of TPE that can fit most life-size bras and clothes of this variety.

>>50622221
You can improve on that by getting a plastic pipe, around an inch thick and drill holes into the side of it then attach it to the air tube. I think there's even an onahole dryer like that.

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>>50621432

>>50622228
i meant puni ana spdx
sorry, i dont know why i thought t he lolinco was the torso

>>50622232
>I think there's even an onahole dryer like that.
What's the power on that like? I like the idea of a perforated tube but I feel like it would need to be stronger than a 15W machine.

>>50622247
okay thay made me laugh

>>50621831
I doubt it looks like that because he turned it inside out

I don't get it. I have always just wrapped a paper towel strip around my index finger and wriggled it around inside my onahole (and repeat that two more times) and never had a problem with moisture.

>>50622112
i second this
>>50622187
would desu

>>50622287
I do that and then take a second piece of paper towel rolled up and leave it in the ona until next use.

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>>50622102
If Palworld is still on the table then I want a Dazzi.

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>>50622102
Throw me in the lovander pit, I can take em.
Let me ascend my consciousness through sex alone.

>>50622350
>>50622332
For me it's Lunaris or Nyafia.

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>>50622134
>SON DID YOU ORDER DOLL OF A DOG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

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>>50622102
My heart goes out to all the pokebros. I wanted one too. One day we will have it. First dolls, then sex robots. Its gonna be like cyberpunk, but decades sooner.

>>50622378
not him but im fatherless as you can see by me being on 4chan

>>50622102
They've already made an 808 figure, now give me the fucking sexdoll.
And on that note, they are leaving money on the table not collaborating with Kekitopu.

After another attempt with the Venus Real in soft, this time with the thinner tomax lube, I got a good handle on it.
It feels good, it isn't a disappointment like ZXY was. But it's actually more stimulating than my old Venus Clone, I kinda expected the opposite from how everyone is saying it's a low stimulation onahole for longer sessions.
First of all, while there's less texture, it's overall tighter, pretty sure even tighter than Venus Clone was before I broke it in.
Second of all, while the first 2/3rds of the tunnel is not that stimulating(at a perfect level for me since I'm uncut) the last 1/3rd is much tighter, so if you bottom out it bullies your glans a little. It's not something I would want to edge with for a longer time, unless you have a short dick, or you're cut and lost sensitivity in your glans. That last bit also seems to be what squeezed out the thicker lube I used the first time.
I'm looking forward to using it over time and seeing how it changes once it gets broken in, with my Venus Clone there was a big difference(and improvement) as the time went on.
I'll try using the Rich Soft version next, this time hopefully without burning my dick.

>>50621833
it's so fucking over

>>50622221
Overall great guide, but I want to add 2 remarks from my experience.
You can use microfibre instead of paper towel. Cut it into stripes, no need for sticks.
2 hours with air pump is probably overkill for most things. Even 'complicated' tunnels should take no longer than hour. If tunnel is too tight or bends harshly preventing air flow, put in chopstick alongside.

>see OP
>get curious
>check out docklandet
>there's humantaur sexdolls now
>there's zombie sexdolls with split jaw
>there's /d/ fetish tier sex dolls
>there's furry and fantasy sexdolls beyond just changed skin tone

this shit is wild to me, 10 years ago it was pretty much just realdoll bimbos. big props to the chink creatives

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>>50622212
Here in the US (if you're not in a cucked state) there's Guavadoll, Doll Hakoniwa, Elsa Babe, and of course the classic Aotume (pricey/145cm+) and Irokebijin. Definitely ask a shop to confirm production availability before you place an order, so far so good with Croissant Doll through Kumadoll.com, waiting on factory pics (ETA mid-January, ordered 132cm small chest). If you want a smaller doll strictly to dress, the BJD club is two blocks down.

>>50622491
'ppreciate the review mate, hopefully the prospective Tomax buyers makes use of your input.

It wasn't until I put 155cm next to 132cm that I saw the difference. UOH! Nothing to do but just keep waiting and seeing. I bet Arona-anon is glad he got his fix before all of this.

>>50622602
>mid January
bro...

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brehs is this a real site?
theres some good deals here
https://ainidoll.com/product-category/ready-to-ship/

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>>50622605
My bad, living in the past. It's cold as fuck and I haven't fully woken up yet.
MID-FEBRUARY 2026

>>50622606
Seems legit, check out their Instagram page (@mysmartdoll). They just look like eBay dolls to be honest, don't rely on the promo pics but rather the past deliveries. They sometimes don't come close to the promo pics but for what you pay it'll do. Definitely snoop around for more info before taking the plunge or better yet look for other brands with factory pics in the OP link.

>want order new toys
>already have more than enough, some don't get used often
>running out of storage space
>still want to get something new

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>>50622630
>check out their Instagram page
i noticed they havent updated thair insta in years
i saw they had a "main site" with more dolls but who knows if this one is also abandoned
im kinda scared but the deals for some of these 155cm dolls are too good to pass up
pic related apparently its 5'1

i think ill email them and just check if theyre still alive

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>>50621833
Next step, go all into palworld. Give me a Lunaris.

i'm looking to get a puni ana-roid 14 or maybe 13, has anyone used one or had experience with similar types? this is new territory for me.

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>>50621833
I knew they were going to get Jewtendo'd sooner or later, but at least I'll get to fuck a Vaporeon because of them.

Is onahole technology improving at all?

(i don't care about dolls, those are obviously improving)

>>50622102
My little pony, feral.

Getting a silicone doll, but I'm also looking into getting a pump for easier cleaning as well. I've seen recommendations for models, but my main concern is over tubing material. Is there anything (or anyone) I should avoid?

This is neat. $400 for an ona hole auto cleaner and UV sterilizer. Doesn't seem like it has anything to catch the water that spills out. Pretty pricey, but if you are a daily user then maybe worth it. Also has ultrasonic cleaning and UV sterilization.
https://docklandet.com/collections/all-sex-dolls/products/intelligent-cleaning-machine-wm-doll

>>50622949
The Loverslab mods for Palworld genuinely go insane. It is impressive on a technical level what that community has built.

>>50623680
which ones?

>>50623680
The whole modding framework they have created (and the addons) for it which allow things like random sex events to start in the overworld between pals, or to grab and drag you into an event instead. The one that allows lost battles to transition into NSFW events. The variety of animations people have made, too; it's a whole suite of collaborative tools that turn Palworld into an open-world survivalcraft game with the ability to fuck the wildlife either at random, or on demand (though the keybinds to initiate those encounters do suck ass.) I wish more games got this level of NSFW support, but unfortunately most game devs aren't as laid-back as Pocketpair. There's also one million mods that do everything from make Lovandier into a futa, to turning Chikipi into a big-tiddy furry, but that's par for the course in most games I think.

>>50623507
Appreciate the recommendation, but mainly just trying to make sure I don't irrevocably fuck up anything by fusing the tubing to it like some sort of permanent ungodly vaginal/anal life support system.

>>50623752
https://www.amazon.com/Penn-Plax-Standard-Airline-Tubing-Aquariums/dp/B0FM1B9BSJ
A guy recommended this in a past thread, said something along the lines of if it isn't silicone you should be good

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>>50623752
>>50623767

>>50623774
>Feb 8, 2026
Hold on, what the fuck

>>50621635
yes that was me. I read that soap could react with the material and damage it. after reading the OP guide again I think I will use soap from now on...
>>50621828
I can imagine a hole full of rainbow-colored mold, so I'd say the praise is not deserved
>>50621831
>>50622258
I turned it out after I threw it away, it was just to show you guys
>>50622221
I appreciate the guide but I really think using an airpump is excessive, especially when the general way to clean it with a drying stick or microfiber works. I think I'll just do >>50622287 with a full microfiber cloth (not a stick) and if I still get yellow or purple discoloring I'll just pretend it's not my fault

airpumps just seem too much and I wish there were easier to clean onaholes but alas, this is the worst timeline

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>>50623774
>Fri, Feb 8th, 2026

but is erotouch.eu safe or not? I don't really trust it

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FUCKK FUCKKK THIS IS LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT I WANT
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0FVRWRRB4

BUT AMAZON REFUSES TO SHIP TO A US ADDRESS USING THE JP SITE FUCKKK

any proxy shippers you guys know that would ship this to the US?

>>50623951
www.amazon.com/dp/B08HQ827QX

>>50623194
Just designs, onahole material is pretty much capped since companies don't like to share their mixtures. More clear holes are surfacing though, the closed holes by Mousou-Toys look nice but the 4.2 inch tunnel length leaves a lot to be desired.

>tfw local retailer doesnt sell tomax

>>50623968
HOLY FUCK HOW DID YOU FIND THIS

>>50623968
this one is smaller unfortunately
i appreciate you looking for it though, but the JP one is 10kg and more closer to a life size than this

>tomax items restock on TD delayed AGAIN
ffs

>>50623790
Sorry Anon you are never going to live this down. You skipped the slime girl fantasy and went straight to bioengineering your own waifu inside your ona hole. Sometimes I won't wash it for a day and re use it, which is already nasty, but I can't imagine never using soap.

>>50622374
Sibelyx will always be my personal want, but I think we need to start with flopie for the whole gaping joke

>>50623722
Skyrim's sex mods are far more advanced than Palworld's, but Palworld gets the benefit of far more roaming (sex) creatures and the base mechanics also means you can build the most hedonistic den of sex.

just for curiosity I decided to check aliexpress, couldn't find anime ones sadly but there's a bunch of asian looking ones at 50% discount.
has anyone had any experience with dolls bought from there?

>>50623767
>>50623774
Thank you.

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>>50621833
>this affected even the none-nintendo stuff like smolder
god fucking dammit.

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>>50623079
WHATS A MATTER? AIN'T YOU EVER WANTED TO FUCK A PONY ON CRACK?

>>50625168
Jesus fucking christ can they get ANYTHING right?

What about sex dolls brings out the WEG in chinks?

It appears the future of sex dolls is self manufacturing.

>>50625230
They gotta be doing this intentionally bad.
Either that or some source sculptor they got is beyond just "not giving a shit."

>>50625244
WEG's a new acronym to me, mind if I ask for the meaning?

>>50625152
I really enjoy some of Nintendo's games, but as a company there are few I despise more. They have too much power.

>>50625168
put a wig on her and swap those eyes for the ones in that Snivy and this might be passable, but right now it is... frightening. If they were smart they would've made the tail a removable plug in a second anal passage.

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>>50625249
At this point I think they're doing it on purpose, like some of the stuff they make looks decent but then out of nowehere they'll come out with the most abominable looking shit imaginable.

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IT'S UP

>>50625284
I am afraid to ask the weight on that thing, holy fuck.

>>50625288
supposedly 15kg for an 85cm doll

>>50625168
Fucking meth got these ponies doing tricks.

>>50625284
There's uncanny valley and then there's whatever the fuck is going on here. I think I'd take something overly realistic or the usual lego-tier painted on face over this, especially with that Unreal Tournament 4 hair.
That said, put a bag over the head and this is my unironic ideal woman.

lego dolls when
I want easy way to change arms, legs heads, even better if torso is 2 pieces for easier clean and to switch tits or holes.
I didn't mean actual lego-look like dolls, but with minecraft and roblox popularity Im scared there could be interest in those

So I'm interested in building a bjd doll and wish to buy a dollho eve torso onahole to fuck it.
But I live in europe and I'm too scared a sex toy from japan would be seized and seen as "underage material"
I

>>50625482
Get them to remove the packaging. As long as you don't live in the uk or france or some other cucked country you should be fine

>>50624321
Now I understand all the hate, everyone is just jealous that my ona is the most lifelike!

For all your entertainment, here is my drying stick. Yellow because of 'body oils' is what I was told. Gonna try washing this thing now, if it explodes oh well
I think got trolled hard. I asked years ago if I should wash/clean the drying stick, and was told "do it and find out". If you say that I'm obviously gonna assume something bad will happen so I never did it. OP guide says to rinse it.....
I don't trust anyone here anymore

Also
>Pasted Dec 5, 2022
>still under construction
Don't kid yourselves, just mark it as finished/abandoned

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