Wanted to simplify the OP a bit and add a recent news section.

>>64785432
JAKL bullpup FRT anon here. Having trouble with the super safety. Im pretty sure my lever is getting too tall and causing the bolt to bind to the rear as well as not cycling the SS mode even though its going far enough back that it should. Swapped in a DTT frt and it hand cycles just fine. Going to take it to the range friday with the DTT before I mess with the SS more. After I figure out if everything works correctly, I plan on swapping in an ARC fire for testing. IF that gives me trouble, I might pick up one of those partisan triggers.

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s3igu2 just posted this on his instagram, is this a normal MP5 lower?

>>64785483
what chassis did you go with? a3?

Anything new at shotshow?

>>64785570
Atrius was there but didnt show anything new

https://youtu.be/OVshw816IuU

>>64785493
yeah

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frts are getting made

>>64785432
>ps90 frt announced
>3 position with progressive pull like the real deal
>four hundred and fifty fucking dollars

>>64786174
ps90 is niche af you should be glad you have the ability to buy something imho

>>64786174
Poorfag problems

Is there any chance the ban in Florida gets overturned? I cannot live with not being able to live out my GiTS fantasy.

Anybody else having issues with super safeties in semi mode? In both my arc-fire and hoffman super safety releasing the trigger slowly will drop the hammer almost every time. I've tried swapping parts around but nothing seems to fix it. Any ideas?

>>64786174
This >>64786180 it's expensive as fuck to get a production pipeline going, and for such a niche product, you should honestly be thankful it's only $450

>>64786218
>to get a production pipeline going
Their parts dont even include the trigger pack itself, it's three or four CNCd and coated pieces

>>64785975
this is for the VZ58 right

>>64786205
probably the trigger cut?

anyone know who actually makes 1911 frt? CashIncllc's $70 one seems to be a scam, according to the yt comments. one guy had to charge back after waiting 3 months, another guy says they sent a false tracking number.

>>64786267
That's my first thought. I just think that's unlikely since both triggers were cut by the people that made the safeties.

>>64786174
I bought it and I dont even have a ps90

>>64786373
https://pembletonandsons.com/products/dillinger-1911-2011-frt

a lot of people are not posting images of their devices so people cant make it and send it to scs to get a ton made for cheap

>>64786246
yes

>>64786474
sick

>>64786218
>be thankful it's only $450
I have no problem with this. Just the audio on thier video of it. Wtf.

>>64786438
You will, you will.

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Duality Arms Co. PS90 FRT footage

>Here's a test of our commercial prototype from this past weekend. The takeaways, $250, 3 POS, and no modifying the FCG. Other options are on the way.

>>64785486
this seems to be what everyone wants right? FRT in a normal mp5 housing

Wonder when it will come out

>>64786944
Nice optic.

>>64786443
>rail mount front grip
How is this not an OOW?

Want one for my stribog but the only option looks like the ar compatible lower with the gay ass scorpion magazine conversion

>>64786944
Did I order from FN Specialties to soon?

>>64787099
>Want one for my stribog
I want one for m Uzi Modal A, but no one here has an answer.

>>64787106
depends, Duality Arms Co. got into a lot of heat for their Kriss vector FRT launch

>>64787099
you can wait for the asdesigns variant

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>>64786953
>>64785486
this was announced at shot show. I didnt even know they were there.

>>64785432
>have an ASD lower for my MP5
>love it
>now they're coming out with a 45deg lever
>NICE
>except my lower has SS markings
This is going to tickle my autism to no end. Is there any way to redo the markings?

>>64787184
Mine was worse, I had 2 lowers, one that had a super safety in it with markings then the ARC came out. I obviously wanted a lever so I then ordered a ARC lower with markings.

I'm done though, not buying another lower. I think it's fine. I'll probably change the selector style though

>>64787197
I'm retarded, so bear with me. Is there any way to redo the markings to get pictograms on it once the 45deg lever comes out?

>>64787128
Damn. I thought the rest was a straight mag for 10mm.

>>64787223
I know what you said, I replied with that I'm also retarded with money so I just bought a new lower

The alternative would be to sand blast the entire thing, get it coated again then apply new labels

I guess you could also use cold blue on it, but I'm not sure what that would look like

>>64787235
>use cold blue on it, but I'm not sure what that would look like
Shit.

What's the wait time on an ASD lower anyway? Assuming no fancy grips or triggers with the regular SS.

When will they have AUG triggers that dont require modification to the stock. I know you don't NEED to do it, but I'd rather be able to have 3 position

>>64787390
s3igu2, the guy behind the mp5 frt, ak frt and ARC selector, also made the AUG frt. He isnt developing it any further currently which means someone else has to pick that up. Same as the ak 3 position, which is possible now

>>64787361
https://activesafetydesigns.com/shipping-estimates/

>>64787516
>implying i trust that bullshit
Post the real wait times.

>>64787128
anyone know what booth?

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>>64787688
40805

>>64785432
Are these common use yet? Like have courts ruled these things to be legal? What's the status on these in states like FL?

>>64787705
thanks brah. idk why I cant search good.

>>64787756
>Are these common use yet?
Pretty common now
>What's the status on these in states like FL?
Still banned

>>64787756
Legal everywhere except faggot communist stats. And yes, FL is a faggot communist state now.

Partisan on dvor for 215, worth it?

>>64787390
IRL auto AUGS never had a selector switch, only a safety So you tell me. It was all progressive trigger.
Irish and Aussie AUGS have a semi-auto lockout device for said trigger, mounted entirely on the trigger..
It's going to be drill or else, a lockout mounted to the trigger or a true progressive FRT.
You're never getting a conventional selector

>>64788590
>all progressive trigger.
I would like to see a "progressive trigger" that shoots faster, the harder you pull.

What bipod do you guys like for your retarded autorifle builds?

>>64788585
they work in ARs and if that's what you are going with then yeah

Did anyone from the last thread pull current quotes for HK21 and 23 builds

>>64788672
There's a progressive frt in development for the PS90 (which uses a clone of the aug trigger pack with some different internals). The P90 series haa a progressive trigger with a rotating selector under the trigger for safe, semi-lockout, auto.

Pictured is an Irish Army AUG with the semi lockout on the trigger, notice it is literally a plunger that locks the progressive trigger from moving past semi. When pushed UP the lockout is deactivated and F/A is possible

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>>64790141
Forgot pic

>>64788672
Depending on your set up, a hard pull might actually slow down your ROF with current frt's.

Considering we can now 3-round "burst" a SS/ARC, progressive FRT's are coming

>>64790141
>>64790143
Also note that on the P90 and Irish/Aussie AUG there is no true selector function like a normal F/A trigger. The Lockout being off on an AUG or the rotating "selector" on the P90 being on AUTO still allows semi auto fire with a half pull, requiring a hard full pull to engage F/A.
Progressive triggers are neat

>>64790141
>Did anyone from the last thread pull current quotes for HK21 and 23 builds
I'm also looking for this

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ASDesigns cancelled the other G3 lower but reinforces their cassette style drop in for factory housing.

>>64785623
They launched their merch store under High Ready and are most likely releasing an AK lever soon during or after Kalashbash.

>>64790261
>releasing an AK lever soon during or after Kalashbash
source?

>>64790256
So does the cassette drop in also work on MP5s as well?

>>64790608
yes

>>64790615
>still waiting on ASD lower
>have to get back in line for this shit
Ah shit, here we go again. Ideally I still want both, as having access to an AR FCG is waaaaay better than the shitty HK style trigger.

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clearer picture of the asdesigns cassette hk trigger for OEM housings

>>64790746
I have a mighty need

>>64790608
>>64790615
What about AP53's and the HK33, HK21 and HK23?
We're still waiting on the AP53 trip for the ARMP5 lower

>>64790256
>I have attached a picture of our prototyoe,
So post the picture.

>>64790833
https://youtu.be/jJHbC8ERr04?t=3784

>>64790746
Is it two or three position?

>>64790876
3, that's just semi only marked lower

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i get the awful feeling we are flying too close to the sun
should i use my family's factory to quickly shit out a hundred thousand super safeties?

>>64790945
Yes.

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>>64790141
Like an actual build quote? 3k at the cheapest could be more, you’ll need a PTR receiver, RCM barrel, kit. So $5k all in bare minimum, probably more than that since you’ll want a couple barrel. Waiting for AS Designs to come out with their FRT for them after enough of us demanded it.

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>Shot show 2026
>No one releasing a 3 position AK FRT SS
Reeeeee

>>64790746
Based
I am curious if it will work in SEF housings. So far I've only seen pictures of it in NAVY housings.
Hopefully it is durable with good longevity, and has the correct design utilizing leverage and other mechanical advantage so that it is reliable even under strong trigger finger pressure. A four position would be sick too, but I don't mind a 3 position.

>>64791110
Yeah, there's 4 different builders who will do a HK21 - Michaels Machines and TSC Machine, Parabellum Combat systems and I honestly forget the 4th one it was in the previous thread. MM and TSC do HK23 builds as well, including the converted HK53 belt feds (don't do this, you need a quick change barrel)

>>64791211
>but I don't mind a 3 position.
Getting a little pick in your old age? FRT is (could be) a blessing to the community that far surpasses bumpfire stocks. Which never impressed (me), but I never owned one and I'm sure it could help you miss faster.

>>64792025
Bump stocks were a meme due to how much they jerk around. FRT/SS by comparison is literally "we have machine gun at home." The proliferation of them pretty much killed my interest in buying a MAC10.

>>64792048
>Bump stocks were a meme due to how much they jerk around.
Not saying they aren't minute of stadium.
>The proliferation of them pretty much killed my interest in buying a MAC10.
And stoked my reinterest in my M11/9. Awaiting accessory now.

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I hated the selector screws so I modified the ARC to look like milspec. It took serious machining on the existing hardened parts and 2 new heat treated parts so hopefully they'll make something like this a factory offering eventually.

I have two MAK-90s, is there an FRT that I can install in one of them that doesn't require me to drill the receiver? Any recommendations for a particular AK model?

>>64793663
>>64793672
damn that looks fantastic! I wish I could buy

>>64793672
>>64793663
how do you install the arc lever itself if there are no screws?

>>64794010
You just put the cross pin in while its sticking out the left side of the gun, then put it back and install the detent/grip

>>64794109
ah I see, thanks for the explanation. I hope asdesigns have this as an option. I'm not sure though because their mp5 housing FRT also have a screw, but you never know I guess.

>>64793663
You should message the AS designs head guy with your stuff, their pretty easy to get in contact with.

Which FRT should I get for my 300 AAC?

>mfw asfrtacc is a thing

>>64795794
depends on if it's an AR platform, if it is, I recommend the asdesigns' ARC

Is there a list of PCCs that are known to be compatible with FRT/SS? Looking around for one and one requirement is being able to work with one. I really want a UMP45 clone. Was also thinking about a SP9 but AFAIK there aren't any FRTs for it. MP5 is kinda boring imo.

>>64797893
>I really want a UMP45 clone.
No you don't
>MP5 is kinda boring imo
Because its the correct choice. Stop trying to be as special snowflake. If you still want to stand out like a fag get the kriss vector

>>64791110
Only 5k? I have a new life goal...

>>64797893
The SP9 stribog was one of the earliest prototyped FRT'd PCC's after the MP5, it's coming.

> I really want a UMP45 clone
Literally get a Stribog 45, there's a UMP lookalike kit that brings the fixed irons and aesthetics, but the Bog is roller delayed blowback and much, much more enjoyable - there's a reason the MP5 is so lauded and its because of rollers

>>64790141
To the belt fed bois interested in the HK21, M240/MAG and M249S ----
Zastava is trying to bring their M84 PKM to the US in semi auto, they have it at SHOT.
7.62x54R only, est. retail of $4k-7k

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>>64798912
>Zastava is trying to bring their M84 PKM to the US in semi auto, they have it at SHOT.
i would buy it in a heartbeat and start development on an FRT for it immediately (yes i have the skills)

>>64786205
I have the ARC installed, let me give it a try.

>>64793672
Nice work.

>>64798912
>7.62x54R only
he also mentioned on TFB TV the possibility of bringing in a .308 variant of it as they have developed that recently.

>>64798912
wonder if the ak frt would work

would be awesome to see an FRT for the GHG type 100 "clone", it uses a semi auto sten FCG so perhaps a talented individual could kill two birds with one stone.
>>64799254
no, the semi auto PKM FCG is entirely different.

save

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Fartsausage sisters, my dad is getting bolt lock on his super safety. He says the function test at home works fine, but he can't go super safe irl. Says the bolt locks back on the first round. Googling the issue took me to redd*t, who said to put two quarters in the buffer tube. That seems kinda gay though. Is there a different fix? Maybe a different spring to use? It's on a shorty with a brace fwiw.

>>64803258
likely the upper needs to be cut or the quarter trick yeah

https://activesafetydesigns.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/158000420527-ar-upper-troubleshooting

Be aware, for ARC no cutting of the upper is needed

>>64786174
That is a completely reasonable price and you wouldn't bat a lash at it if you actually had an SBR'd PS90.

>>64803270
Ah brilliant. Thanks. Should've check their site first.

>>64803258
>put two quarters in the buffer tube
I'm just doing this in advance to all my ARs anyway. Kind of like an Easter egg.

>>64786174
>>ps90 frt announced
>get on notify me list
>get notified
>says in stock
>order
>awaiting fulfilment for 5 frikin days
Wtf? FN Specialties a scam?

>>64803367
it's a preorder though, does it say it will ship in 5 days? I ordered it too, but I assumed it'll ship in like a month or something

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FL legality when

>>64803665
thank god I dont live in commie florida and live in a state that believe in my rights as a gun owner in Maine

>>64803672
They just gave us open carry again. It's not all lost.

I've been living under a rock and I just read the "non-comprehensive list" in the OP and had my mind blown. I had no idea so much progress had been made, last time I paid attention everything was just AR super safeties.
I'm so insanely hyped for the VZ-58 and VZ-61 super safeties. I finally have an excuse to pick up a PS90 and Vector as well.

Has anyone taken a crack at PPS43 (very AKlike) or Sten FCGs yet? Both of those are at the heart of a lot of tube gun semi conversions and you'd probably get a lot of milage out of one design.

>>64803700
>Has anyone taken a crack at PPS43 (very AKlike) or Sten FCGs yet?
not that I know of, would be super cool though I agree

>>64803674
Fudds have always wanted that. They hate FRTs because of THE BLACKS and it'll hurt the value of their MAC-10s.

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Replaced the ratl-r with the mamba. Function tests fine, forceful reset even with a retard grip on the trigger so hopefully it'll run without the ratl-r's bullshit "features"
>>64797963
Rude!

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>>64804221
>off by one

>>64803653
Yeah, but the in-stock notification, and subsequent order form, did not show the preorder click box now presnted now. I'll have to wait until march. Which is not what I was led to believe.

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>>64804221
>>64804232
cool, I have the ratl-r I bought it before I owned the gun itself. Still pretty worried that it wont work

Interesting enough s3igu2 teased this. Maybe he is working on something, the interesting part is that ASDesigns specifically states that the kriss vector is not something they are going to pursue and has not updated that since.

Anyone know if the firing pin latch on a Rattler LT needs to be removed for a FRT to function? Some people are saying that it needed to be removed the first gen Rattlers but I can't find anything conclusive on the new gens

>>64804730
I would email asdesigns to know for sure

>>64804686
You should try it out. It's an easy install except for maybe getting the sear pin out the first time, it can be tricky.
My ratl-r was fine, it works, put 3k rounds through my vector from new with it and everyone that shot it and I loved it but really hated the extremely small frt "sweet spot" operating window where it reverts to semi if you pull the trigger too hard and I didn't care about a semi third position, I ran my ratl-r in two position with the stock safety cam.
I know duality didn't want the trigger to be confused with FulL aUtO so he pussyfooted it and the people that wanted a semi position were very vocal.
The mamba seems promising, very forceful reset, no sweet spot, two position only, so hopefully live fire testing goes well.

>>64805484
hope so as well, please report back!

What's the best buffer weight for a short barrel? H2?

>>64805811
start with h2, yeah

for reference, I run a 11.5 with the A5H2 (5.33 oz) with a flow through can and it runs beautify with the ARC

>>64803700
You can get Vz61 FRT right now, just with a printed AR fire control compatible lower. I would wait though current work is being done to integrate the rate reducer

>>64790945
why havent you already been doing that?

>>64790945
Are you awaiting an invitation? You're invited!

>>64803665
>>64803672
There's no law restricting the possession, transfer, or use of FRTs in Florida.

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how is this a brace?

>>64806469
look at the fourth image

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Has anyone here tried out the KynSHOT RB5000 buffer with a FRT? Thinking about buying one and it seems like it'd be a good purchase

>>64806469
>in addition to being a pistol stabilizing brace, this brace doubles as a personal defense tool and can be used as a club or defensive shield
I hate it when some stupid handgun gets stuck to the end of my perfectly good club

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>>64806529
>perfectly good club
Defendive shield.

>>64803258
AS Designs says to use an H3 buffer on any gun with an SS, so I'd check that before cutting anything. If it's already an H3 (5.5 oz, just weigh it after pulling it out of the spring), try the quarter trick. If it's a pistol, an H3 buffer would probably help cycling in general as well.
That's what I had to do to fix my ARC in a pistol at least.

>>64805842
Cool, thanks.

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>>64806710
Ah is that so. He has I think a 9" (lol) with a brace. I asked him to check the buffer today and he sent me this pic (lol). It looks like the bumper on the buffer shattered at some point. He has no recollection of this happening (lol). lmao even. I think the broken buffer could be cause alone for the bolt getting locked back, even without a super safety.

To play it safe and establish a functioning baseline, I'm going to tell him to buy an LMT H2 buffer and a Sprinco blue buffer spring. Those should function together just fine, super safety or not. Rooftop has them both in stock, and apparently there's a tungsten shortage in the US and buffers are sold out in a ton of places (Brownell's, Optics Planet, etc.). If the super safety has issues with this, we can resume our troubleshooting.

>>64788590
This is not true, the old parts kit I got has a 3 pos push button selector. The semi auto pos simply blocks the trigger from going all the way back to the auto position though while the full auto position lets you do the semi half pull or all the way.

>>64807740
>>64806710
Actually, I think I'll tell him to go with the Geissele H3 buffer and braided spring (also in stock at Rooftop). That's also what Juicy says works best.

https://youtu.be/hIPaBanf0_M

>>64806513
>KynSHOT RB5000 buffer
yeah I run one of these with a tubbs flat wire spring with a suppressor on one of my builds, runs super smooth and the rof is very controllable

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MPA Defender FRT/ART by Advanced Reset Tech

Released as a printable component on odyssey

They will likely sell it on their webpage as well

>>64786956
I know I’m going to sound dumb but there’s actually three different iron sights on that gun as it is

>>64808110
Does it actually do as advertised? Mostly interested in the recoil part

>>64808888
kinda subjective but it does for me, it's not dramatically different like a compensator

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Did anyone see a legit three position AK FRT SS release at shot show this year? Still waiting on that.

>>64809352
not at all, but atrius will be at khalash bash so maybe they will announce something

>>64809352
Bruh did they make that with a fuckin dremel

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ATF inserts itself into RareBreed lawsuit against Hoffman Tactical LLC
>ATF inserts itself into RareBreed lawsuit against Hoffman Tactical LLC

>What makes this case extraordinary is the federal government’s intervention. The ATF’s filing explicitly states that it has a “strong interest… in discouraging unregulated manufacture of forced reset triggers.” It argues that enjoining Hoffman would advance public safety and support the agency’s broader efforts to limit the proliferation of FRTs.

>The ATF openly admits it is not taking a position on whether Hoffman actually infringed the patents or on the other factors required for an injunction. Its sole contribution is to argue that the “public interest” factor should be “weighed heavily” in favor of Rare Breed because stopping Hoffman supposedly advances public safety.

>Hoffman is not alleged to be selling complete triggers commercially on a large scale... By siding with Rare Breed, the government is effectively endorsing the use of patent law as a tool to suppress non-commercial sharing of technical information.

>While the circuits are split, the Northern and Southern Districts of Texas have both held that FRTs are not machineguns. The ATF’s own settlement with Rare Breed implicitly acknowledges the weakness of its prior legal stance. Yet, the agency now seeks to achieve indirectly, through private litigation, what it could not accomplish through direct regulation.

https://www.ammoland.com/2026/01/atf-intervenes-in-forced-reset-trigger-patent-lawsuit-for-public-safety/

>>64809507
Thats wild. This will for sure tank their sales. One thing to be greedy but to have the blessing of the ATF which 100% of you customer base hates saying they are buddy buddy will not go well. Fuck raregreed

>>64809507
This is annoying because it really stops FRT/SS development to new platforms, honestly there isnt a leg to stand on here, RB design is completely different from hoffman

This is like IHOP suing McDonalds because they both sell food

>>64803367
450 bucks and still have to mess with my trigger pack
Why won't these people make good decisions

>>64807828
There is no push button selector. That's only a safety

>>64806477
???
>>64808282
link to vid?
>>64809507
yeah their company might be finished after this. No way to recover from stuff like this.
>>64809567
I don't think it does, there's already millons of people making their own version what's rareb gonna do sue every single one? They'll run out of money and clients by that point. They really shouldn't have accepted that devil's deal.

>>64810468
Yeah, it should be drop in, not come with an assembly jig.

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>>64785432
Gib me your best rotary super safety/frt for the AR there is

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>>64810961
It's a selector. Middle is semi-auto only by locking the trigger out of being pulled to full auto. At least on this ancient Steyr-made surplus parts kit. The Malaysian kit I have is the same. In the nylaug project someone made a 2-position safety since we were cutting up trigger packs making them semi-auto only.

>>64811826
What does it mean if the nylaug can fire and eject a round, but has a failure to feed a new rounds from the mag. These being oem stery aug mags.

>>64811764
what do you mean by rotary

>>64812131
Like, traditional looking ar15 safety. Not the push button.

>>64811214
>link to vid?
it's on IG by advancedresettech

>>64811764
>spoon feed me now because I don't want to read this thread

>>64812008
I dunno, mine just werked (tm) with feeding

>>64812008
Actually, did you modify the cage thing properly? You do need to dremel it until it allows the bolt to smoothly go into an AR barrel extension with no resistance.

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Mini14 FRT

>>64813093
The onl good thing about it.

>>64813099
idk, in a sea of AR-15s, it's a breath of fresh air. Not using normal ar-15 mags is still a shame though

>>64811826
Yeah no.
Middle position on the selector a TAKEDOWN position, it does not block the trigger, it clears the reciever to be removed from the polymer stock, it doesn't even usually have a detent (at least not on US market AUGS) unlike safe and semi, meaning you have to fish it with two fingers on civilian AUGS.

Ask yourself seriously why would the Irish and Aussies settle for what Steyr offered them - a plunger style semi auto lockout on the BOTTOM of the actual trigger if a push button 3 position was available? They wouldn't.
The Malays weren't a later adopter either, they bought their A1 AUG's right around the time the Irish bought them and the aussies did the F88

I heard someone managed to make their P365 super safe with a botched manual safety install. My grail gun is a conceal carry with full auto capabilities, do we think we'll see micro compacts getting frts/super safeties or is that too retarded?

>>64813539
you can today put a frt in a glock 43x

https://youtu.be/BbsZNrT9-20

Putting it in a carry gun is not smart in my opinion. Optically it looks terrible and you wouldnt be accurate with it which is not safe for you or people around you. Another thing is reliability, handgun FRTs will malfunction if the trigger is pulled to hard which is is bad in a situation in which you need your weapon to be operational.

Handgun FRTs are for fun only in my opinion, there is a reason why glock 18s and cz 75 autos never really picked up

>>64813155
>a sea of AR-15s
Trust me, I get AR fatigue, too. An FRT for the Mini is a good, if not great, thing! I say, let FRTs rule and why aren't the factories shipping yet?

>>64812832
I did the mod I saw from a vid. But I could give it another pass.

Man I really hope the new ARC selectors for ARC V2 can also work with the ARC V1

>>64813539
>I heard someone managed to make their P365 super safe with a botched manual safety install.
sounds neat. i should buy a 365 to see what i can do.

>>64813626
The only other thing I can think of maybe is if you did the aluminum sleeve for the right side guide rod or just went printed only for the receiver parts. I went with the sleeve and mine cycles super smooth.

>>64813693
>he bought the beta product

>>64814004
I used a brass tube, but it doesn't sit flush with the aluminum trunnion. It sticks out by a few mm.

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What are the FRT possibilities for this guy?

>>64813610
>>64813093
You young-ins don't know anything. Old fags just used a staple and got binary mode out of their minis.

>>64814387
from my understanding it's kinda difficult because the jawbone uses a 45 degree detent with SS, ARC or any of the cassettes needs a 90 degree. I would think drop ins like a kabuto style would work just fine, but getting 3 position capability would be difficult I would think

>>64814414
>don't know anything
I have heard of "the staple trick" here before, probably you flexing. But I never googled it because I don't want to get creamed by rabid ICE agents or murder/death/kill anticyber terrorist death squads.

>>64814497
Probably easier to just go with a CMMG Banshee? I just liked the obnoxious Tec-9 profile.

>>64814497
>>64814387
looks like this guy did it so it's possible

https://youtu.be/U-EFJ-c69vc

not sure if a super safety would work though

>>64814504
CMMG Banshee would work with everything, the problem with AR9s with super safetys at least was the fact that you had to cut the weight on the bolt. You could remove the bolt itself but less mass in a direct blowback AR9 isnt a good idea because of bolt bounce or OOB.

CMMG uses radial delay which the bolt itself locks in the barrel like a AR-15 and the bolt doesnt need a weight so there isn't anything to cut. I've seen a lot of footage where it's drop in with anything pretty much

>>64814517
>You could remove the bolt itself but less mass in a direct blowback AR9 isnt a good idea because of bolt bounce or OOB.
I meant remove the bolt weight

>>64814507
Seems nice with the Glock mag compatability, thus drums.

>>64814553
belt fed AR9 is pretty cool

https://youtu.be/wtKJ21S2LY8

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>>64813093
Who's developing this?

>>64814507
It's interesting to see gun mfgs actually putting official demonstrations of the FRTs on their YouTube page. I know Turk Force Arms are (relatively) small, but it makes me wonder how soon we'll starting guns equipped with FRTs from the factory.

>>64813813
>super safe botched trigger
Isn't that just full auto

Bit late to this, are there any FRT/SS that work on the MCX?

>>64815030

- There is a trip bar you can install in the upper which allows usage of a Rarebreed.
Footage: https://youtu.be/mGMGiaYGAOI
- ASDesigns has a separate trip in the lower that allows for super safeties and their ARC selector.
Footage: https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/ARCMCX.mp4 - @s3igu2 on x.com

>>64813208
Dunno what more to tell you except that you're retarded and wrong. I have a 3 position aug selector in my hands. Two of them in fact. The selector does not have a "takedown position", once you remove the trigger bars it literally just pushes all the way out. Neither of these kits has a plunger style semi auto lockout.

>>64814942
One of the ASDesigns developers @_009515 on x.com

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>>64815377
Okay then moron explain this pic. Look at the trigger

Then provide any sort of documentation or proof whatsoever that what you say actually exists and functions as you describe. A picture of a safety from a Malay A1 kit does not a valid argument.
. You have parts, not a functioning rifle

What you actually have experience with is airshit
There are airshit AUGS where the push button safety works as you describe - but that is not how the real rifle works fag.

Here's another Irish AUG with a plunger selector (semi lockout) on the bottom of the trigger

>>64813208
>>64815377
>>64816325
Staging the safety in the middle on the AUG is sometimes done to disassemble, there's a separate pull button to remove the reciever, but the reciever sometimes gets caught on either the action rods or the trigger linkage (not sure which) when the gun is in a cocked state.
You can also just dry fire it.

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Reee ASD when LAW ARIC slip trip

>>64809507
It is absolutely sickening, spiritually, how far the nation, the people, and our governmental system has strayed from the notions of objective truth and hard reality. IP law has always been a bit dubious morally, but at the very least one could have hoped it would be internally consistent within some degree of what mechanisms or technologies approximated or were unique from others.
This is just bullshit, and definitely seems to add credence to the theory that this whole time, the aggressive IP legal engagement that raregreed has been bringing to bear on competitors has been about more than just greed, but perhaps something worse (infringing on the rights of others for the financial benefit of themselves).

>>64809393
Ya am goonsmiff
It doesn't work anyway, but that doesn't have to do with my custom selector but more to do with the way the cam and trigger bar interact in order to get three position function out of a cam ramp profile that was originally spec'd for two position function.

>>64812568
well yeah

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>>64816325
Apparently it's an export model used by both Malaysia and New Zealand. I cannot tell you why other militaries opted for the plunger except that they must have done so intentionally to force soldiers to use a tool to disable it.
I couldn't find official English documentation online but it is mentioned on the wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_AUG
Other users discussing wanting the kit for this safety specifically: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Best-pricing-on-the-indonesian-or-malaysian-Steyr-AUG-military-suprlus-parts-kits-/43-529726/

In my Malaysian owner's manual it says:
>Apabila kunci selamat ditolak ke kanan (kelihatan titik putih) senjata berada dalam keadaan "selamat". Apabila kunci selamat berada di kedudukan sebelah kiri atau di tengah (kelihatan titik merah), picu boleh digerakkan; jika bensi peluru ia boleh melepaskan tembakan.
which when translated from oogabooga means and references a middle position
>When the safety lock is pushed to the right (white dot visible), the weapon is in "safe" condition. When the safety lock is in the left or middle position (red dot visible), the trigger can be pulled; if the hammer spring can release the shot/firing.
I can look for more pages if you like, but it's a pain in the ass translating each manually. I do have a functional nylaug by the way.

>>64816410
>Reee ASD when LAW ARIC slip trip
what's going on here? is there a trip for the ARIC? Interesting

>>64815377
>I have a 3 position aug selector in my hands.
May we see it?

The pastebin says the CZAR print can use Super Safety since it uses AR parts. Anyone heard of how well they hold up after use?

Reformed the FRT list to be a bit easier to read

https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.html

>>64817733
Longer than you probably think, implying you're using the latest designs, follow the documentation, use the correct settings and materials, it should last for thousands of rounds. There is a guy that sells 3d printed lowers for the vz61 so the confidence is there.

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>>64817716
Yeah if the webm wasn't good enough here is the Steyr manufactured one. Three detent positions.

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>>64817838
Top view so you can see how the middle pos blocks the trigger from going to full auto

>>64816511
AUG A1 and A3's also have a white and red dot on the backside of the safety.
SAFE = White
FIRE = Red.

Whether semi occurs or auto occurs is entirely on the progressive trigger. Half pull = Semi.
Full pull = Auto.
It is not a selector, it's a push button safety only.
The trigger plunger semi lockout on Irish Augs and some F88's did not require a tool and the trigger was still a progressive trigger.
DOWN - which had to be pulled out from the trigger = Semi lockout - trigger cannot physically move past the semi auto break point on the progressive
UP = Auto capable progressive trigger can be bumped up with forefinger easily.

New Zealand had export A1 AUG's and F88's, Malaysia had export A1 AUG's.
Functionally the only difference between Austrian StG 77 and the export A1 Aug is the flash hider and a spring

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>>64818187
Austeyr F88A2 - looks like there's a hole where the semi lockout plunger is supposed to be on the bottom of the trigger.

I think Force Reset Trigger is lame, just come to Switzerland and suck some guys dick

>>64818212
Yes, FRT is very lame, you will have more fun coming to Switzerland and suck some guys dick here in Switzerland

>>64818187
It's a selector with three positions. See
>>64817838
>>64817839

Not that it any amount of evidence is satisfactory apparently. I'd tell you to go buy a kit yourself but they're no longer $150 as scalpers have bought them all up.

I'm the Nation of Switzerland and I think OP should just come here and suck my peoples dicks.

What's wrong with sucking on some penis?

>>64818235
Absolutely nothing! But OP better do it in Guam.

>>64818243
Fuck you Guam, Turkmenistan needs its Dick sucked more than you. Come to TUrkmenistan OP, suck Turkmenistan dicks

Come to Palestine, OP. We give you big automatic rifle no need for FRT, and plenty of dick to suck

>>64818216
Is it true you cover your Swiss dicks in the finest of chocolates before you let others suck them? Some people can't wait for the cream filling

>>64818317
The make cockcoo clocks out of wood, they are stuck in thr 1800s.

>>64817838
>>64817839
>>64818221
Oh man you gotta love the excess material hanging off that "middle" detent position, real quality airshit you got there.

>>64817838
>>64817839
Why are you trying to pass off airshit as a real gun part. That's from an AUG AEG, linked to an electronic gearbox

>>64818339
>>64818539
Whatever you want to believe bro. I've provided third party sources. I'm sure the guy with the nylaug that doesn't feed can confirm too.

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>>64818582
Forgot pic

OP Here, I decided instead to just Go To Switzerland and suck some Guys dick, I met a fabulous guy from Switzerland in this thread and were going to get gay married and I can play with his rifle on full auto as long as i just suck on his dick. I will save a lot of money in the long run its cheaper than buying fully automatic guns, when i can just suck some guys cock and use his for free.

I'm in Switzerland right now, its great. I just suck some dick over here and these guys let me play with their Rifles on Full auto. The dick is kind of weird and foreign and uncut and smells a little strange, but it is so worth it.

>>64818582
You provided a safety with a cut 3rd detent just like an Airshit gun and absolutely no proof - every publication and document mentioning a fire control outside of the progressive trigger references the Aussie/Irish plunger Automatic Lockout System(ALO).

Thr push button safety blocks the trigger bars (ie trigger linkage), it has absolutely nothing to do with fire control otherwise - that all takes place in the trigger pack at the back of the stock. They went with a progressive trigger in the first place so they didn't have to do what the Famas and SA80 did with a unintuitive rear mounted fire selector. Bar goes back a certain distance - semi, goes further - full. Progressive in a nutshell.

A 3rd detent on the safety of an actual F/A AUG rifle does nothing because there is nothing for it to do - it's mechanically impossible - a lockout on a progressive trigger has to actually LOCK OUT travel past travel required for a semiautomatic shot. There's no mechanism to frigging do that on the safety, the plunger ALO's literally block the trigger from moving fully to the rear. The P90's safety/ALO operates like a rotary cam - stopping a lug on the bottom of the trigger and preventing it from moving fully to the rear.

What you continually fail to grasp is they would have to completely throw out the progressive trigger along with the trigger pack entirely for what you think it is to work.
On an AEG though? Shit just switches a lead to the gearbox allowing automatic or semi automatic BB's.

Go to any AUG forum and tell them what you think you have though,

>>64819145
Must have been part of the Malaysian contract. New Zealand too. I don't know why it's hard for you to imagine how it is mechanically possible, it's extremely simple. But you're right I've just been fucking with you this whole time. I edited wikipedia, went back in time to make an arfcom post, bought a Malaysian user manual for some reason, and shoehorned a real aug bolt into an airshit stock all to fool you. You're a genius man, you saw right through me.

>>64819177
A 3 post Arfcom thread with 3 faggots who don't know what they're talking about and a Wikipedia article that says this verbatim:

"The AUG features a progressive trigger (pulling the trigger halfway produces semi-automatic fire, pulling the trigger all the way to the rear produces fully automatic fire), and a safety mechanism (cross-bolt, button type) located immediately above the hand grip.[10] In its "safe" position (white dot), the trigger is mechanically disabled; pressing the safety button to the left exposes a red dot and indicates the rifle is ready to fire. Some versions have an ALO or "automatic lockout", a small projection at the base of the trigger. This was first included on the Irish Defence Forces variant of the rifle, and soon after, the Australian Defence Forces variant. In the exposed position, the ALO stops the trigger being squeezed past the semi-automatic position. If needed, the ALO can be pushed up to permit automatic fire."

The ARFCOM post actually had one grain of truth . There is a 3 round burst trigger pack.... for the AUG A3

>>64818986
/k/ - a special place

>>64819266
It's still a progressive trigger. All the 3-pos selector does is prevent the trigger from being pulled all the way back to full auto when it's set to semi only, as I have said many times. Just like the dingus on the bottom of the trigger in other variants, it's merely another way of accomplishing the same thing. The printed 2-pos selector I made does the same thing, locks out pulling it all the way back. Since I cut up the trigger pack why bother having all that overtravel if it's semi only anyway right?

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>>64819266
the wiki section

>>64806459
>or use of FRTs
Yes there explicitly is, you god damn retard. It was the law passed last year before the ATF came to agreement on FRTs. The boomers jammed through a bill that banned ANY device that modifies the firing rate of the weapon. A rubber band, a clothes hanger, binary triggers, a switch on the blicky, FRTs, etc. it's all banned under the law. You can absolutely buy them, you can possess them, but you 100% cannot put them in your guns. It's a felony.

>>64819266
Here's a youtube of some redneck with an 07/02 that made a post-sample machine gun using one of these parts kits. He also shows the 3-position selector.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrYiuayosI

>>64785432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TCxtl1qwE
There are deranged people who scream on the Internet they are going to snap and commit a mass shooting. The FBI will not act until it is too late, then we hear "he was on our radar" as has happened countless times. It is shameful we are not protected.

>>64819321
Why didn't Steyr carry the 3 position safety onto later AUG variants??

>>64819465
That my friend, is a question I have no answer to. 3 pos push button seems better than a trigger dingus to me.

Prototype M249 FRT footage, not sure if it's the asdesigns version

https://youtu.be/EleoO6m1yQk?t=50

>>64820298
This shit is gonna get Executive Ordered SO FUCKING FAST. ou are a fool if you think Trump wouldn't sign that in a heart beat.

>>64820475
true, but this is really priced out for most people. A M249 is 10k. You could effectively do the same thing with a cheap PSA, Magpul drum and a super safety for very cheap though

>>64820483
This, anyone running belts out of an M249S with an FRT likely has multiple actual transferrable machine guns anyway.

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>>64819465
Looks like, from what I'm reading from New Zealand ex-servicemen issued the IW Steyr (Kiwisteyr), the selector would commonly and quickly wear, leaving the weapon unable to be put on SAFE, but with the lockout and normal AUTO positions working. The part takes abuse from being slammed by the trigger linkage (which also wears prematurely)

The EF88 (F90 variant) retains the trigger mounted ALO
The F90 can also have a sliding (back and forth not push in) selector with SAFE/SEMI/AUTO and the trigger pack can be removed and set to 3-round burst instead of auto.

If we're talking about FRT's the only way we're getting away from drilling the stock for the selector is a progressive FRT A la what the PS90 is getting. Neither the trigger mounted ALO or a push button solution would work without progressive trigger action

>>64820483
>effectively do the same thing with a cheap PSA, Magpul drum and a super safety for very cheap though
I conceed and have a couple, just sayin' effin' scary 249 brings the magnifier and we are done in a pens troke.

>>64820521
once we start talking about anything other than a MAC, Sten, Grease Gun, Reising, Uzi, and maaaayybe still an FNC we're probably very far north of 10k

>>64820989
>64820989
And just like his last faggot gun ban penstroke we win in the end

>>64821145
>losing for years is a win
Ok smelly Taliban goat fucker.

ok, but who going to Switzerland though?

I have a massive penis, come to Switzerland sometime.

>>64808282
So I don’t have to pay $10k for a transferable Mac 10?

>>64823444
depends if you need multiple position or not

bump

>rarebreed still ships to my state bust ARC doesn't
Well

>>64823444
>>64823494
MAC-10's super safety exists, it has safe, SEMI and FRT modes it requires a printed lower that takes AR parts like the mac daddy, theres also a metal lower that was going to be coming out as well as a rate reducer

>>64825069
>plastic shit
>on a factory piece you could drive over
There must be a better way.

>>64825115
There is, he's talking about the SAS-9 which has frt capability in development

Now that the 3 round burst exists, 2 round when?

>>64825213
would be easy to do now that the CARL exists, just get a different hammer cam with different notch geometry. Theoretically with this, you could do 4 or 5 round burst probably

Did you guys see the video of the Rare Breed CEO talking about how he's received death threats and had to put a 24 hour bodyguard on his wife?

>>64825358
I did not but that's very believable

>>64825358
Not surprising. What a dumbass. Its not just about money its about rights

>>64825358
>put a 24 hour bodyguard on his wife?
Kinky. Not just assigned, but ON.

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>>64825361
https://youtu.be/s_lQU5QOF1w?t=1117
I got you.

>>64825367
I thought his language was a little weird when he talked about having the bodyguard "on" his wife.

You know, there is truly an untapped marked for milsurp FRTs. I would love a PM63 FRT

>>64825373
If this guy gets shot nothing would really change though would it? Either the company would carry on or it'd dissolve and sell its patents to some other ATF puppet. It looks like the only way to win against Rare Greed is to boycott them and anyone they sell their IP to.

>>64825390
>If this guy gets shot nothing would really change though would it?
It would for him and his survivors.

>>64825404
>>64825373
>>64825390
That's the price you pay when you make a deal with the Devil.

>>64825433
Is he really doing anything different from Colt did when they owned the ar-15?

Black Basin shipping Atrius ambis for ~$260.

So if I wanted to buy an AR FRT right now, would I be better off getting a cassette style replacement like the disruptor or the AZR drop in unit? I normally run G$ triggers, I don't know if that messes with the compatibility.

>>64826227
Cassette style triggers completely replaces the trigger altogether so you wouldnt be able to use your Geissele.

If you want to use your Geissele you can use a super safety, ARC fire by asdesigns or Atrius super selector with their new Geissele lever. The super safety and ARC fire requires the trigger to be cut for it to work and a lever blocker that prevent the lever from hitting the hammer in a way that causes malfunctions.

Atrius does not require a cut and the specific Geissele lever probably wouldn't require a lever blocker type feature, but the Atrius has some criticisms on the strength of their lever. I haven't seen any reviews regarding the new lever yet though. From my understanding on that is that the CS is good and a replacement would be sent quickly if needed.

The AZR or azizona regulator from my knowlege is not compatible with Geissele triggers.

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@atriusdev on IG

>>64826227
>>64826312
Adding on to this, personally I think a SS cut geissele and a asdesigns ARC fire kit with lever blocker is the best on the market currently. There are a couple of places to cut cut geissele triggers including asdesigns themselves but you can cut your own too.

Which route you take depends on your needs.

if you want to use a geissele and you're okay with getting a cut trigger and a lever block, you can use the following
- asdesign's ARC Fire
- super safety (push button safety)

if you want to use a geissele and you dont want your trigger to be cut
- atrius super selector with their upcoming geissele lever
- drop in kabuto style frts with the hammer over travel device

if you dont care about geissele triggers then you have a lot more options
check the ar15 section here: https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.html

Ordered my barrel and handguard for my Lima 6 from right hand red. I am excited for when that gets in and can finish everything up. Also to the other and on that was trying to frt his jackal upper with the A3 triad kit. Have you had any luck??

>>64828213
>Ordered my barrel and handguard for my Lima 6 from right hand red
damn that's pretty sick, I like the Lima 6 but having a gas tube for a weapon like this seems counter to the expected operation. I did look up that inconel gas tubes exist though so I would use that if I had a Lima 6

>>64828213
>Ordered my barrel and handguard for my Lima 6 from right hand red
This is a $4,000 cart?

>>64828301
handguard was 500 and barrel was 389. 2k for the lima 6 build kit and 200 for the RS gas block. so about 3100 for the upper which is only about 100 more than the complete lima 6 upper but its built in a way that I find apealing.

>>64828396
Yeah, I watched a couple by RHR and his redesign seemed to have a higher aspect to it, with the bbl profile and custom heatsink, but was as yet(then), unpriced. I recall he said the heatsink would never ed sold separately.

>>64828440
I just got the barrel, if you want the heatsink and all of that, you need the 4200 one which includes everything.

>>64828445
>4200 one
That's closer to what I was thinking. His extruded hg caught my eye, too.

>>64828492
that with the fact that it lines up with the lima6 top receiver and includes a carry handle

>>64828501
Yeah, the RHR is the way to go, congratulations. When does it arrive?

>>64828514
No idea. I'm hoping in 2-3weeks. With my luck it will shop up right when my scar 17 barrel i sent to get chopped comes back as well as my tax stamp for it. then I get test the FRT on both.

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>>64816410
>the aggressive IP legal engagement that raregreed has been bringing to bear on competitors has been about more than just greed, but perhaps something worse (infringing on the rights of others for the financial benefit of themselves).
Bitch, please. The whole point of getting patents is to block competitors from selling the same types of products.

The only question is whether Hoffman's designs infringe any of Rare Breed's patents. I've done analyses of three of the four that are mentioned in the complaint, and two are clearly not infringing. A third isn't literally infringing but could potentially fall under "doctrine of equivalents" (IMHO unlikely since there are two separate points of difference, and neither of these is some sort of new-to-the-world thing that couldn't have been foreseen by the patent author). The fourth is the really ancient one filed in 2003, and I just haven't had time to read through the whole damn thing yet.

>>64816410
>IP law has always been a bit dubious morally,
No it hasn't been, you fucking communist.

>>64819282
I still get horny whenever I think of those posts about the guys molesting does to collect "buck lure".

>>64803258
>who said to put two quarters in the buffer tube
I thought you only did shit like that if you had things like the carrier key hitting on the buffer tube housing.

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Would a cassette frt like the rarebreed function with one of these cut down buffer tubes?

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>>64829472
Why do people like things like this. Get a rifle tube or A5 tube. Enjoy comf and smooth cycling. A half inch off the oal is unimportant.

>>64829472
not sure what the weight of that buffer is, looks like it wouldnt have enough mass to stop bolt bounce

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How much merit does this article have?

Would be interested in seeing long-term FRT use posted by owners in the community before I start using one on my MP5.

https://hitecarms.com/why-using-a-super-safety-frt-is-a-bad-idea-for-the-mp5-platform/

>>64829619
None, the MP5 can't fire until the rollers are in position.

>>64829619
>Bolt Gap and Roller System Degradation Accelerates Rapidly
So this point is just that rapid firing wears it out more? That alone makes me think this article is at best massively overblowing minor issues and is at worst bullshit. Because there are thousands of beat to shit MP5s in police lockers with countless rounds through them that still run perfectly. And roller/locking piece wear doesn't make the gun explode out of nowhere, there are many signs.

>>64829607
>>64829542
The buffer is 3.5 oz and uses an "extra strength spring" so I'm hoping somewhere between H1-H2 at least.
Better than the carbine buffer that's in there.
I'll install it as the last part and check.
Not really magdumping trash with my FRTs just nice having the option for even bursts in all honesty

>>64829798
Excuse me I meant I'm more worried about the geometry, the bolt not being able to trigger the reset

>>64829619
>>64829641
>>64829641
There is *some* merit here from HTA but no solution is offered when one already exists. Are they blowing it up disproportionately? Sure.

They make a good point about rate of fire, this is esp. true for MP5K clones and the SP5K - they are running at 1100 rpm with an frt when they're supposed to be in the 900's. Even full size guns are running a little fast with FRT.
Most MP5's are not set up out of the box with the correct locking piece (and to a dramatically lesser extent correct rollers) for FRT use. You want a lower degree locking piece, one more suited to suppressor use even if you don't run a can. You need to be extra sensitive about this if you run a normal high backpressure suppressor.
Check your bolt gap. Check it again after 500/1000 rounds. Keep checking it as wear occurs.


We want to increase dwell time - locking piece alone is usually good enough, but if you see accelerated wear or bolt gap opening up, change rollers and slow the weapon further, specifically a stronger recoil spring - either a Wolff spring or the MP5F recoil assembly should do and will reduce the wear from stronger loads.

Lastly, You can also increase bolt weight

>>64829039
To be fair I think he's referring more to the dirty side of IP law, like the people who registered random domain and company names back in the day then sued for name theft/breach

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>>64829836
There's a conflict with reliability, though. Automatically going to a lower degree locking piece may induce more failures.

L2Prints has this posted on their website

>>64829857
>AR15 hammer requires more force

This is def a low key issue that hopefully ASDesigns and Rare Greed trigger packs will solve

If reliability is affected by lower degree locking pieces and you don't think it's roller related (bolt gap), increase recoil spring force and go back up higher on locking pieces, consider buffer options, and lastly increase bolt mass

>>64829857
>>64830039
You can also get negative (undersized) rollers. The system running hard, causing reciever dimples, high rof = too large of a bolt gap.
The relationship between locking pieces and rollers changes bolt gap.
Everyone needs to be checking their bolt gap, esp. If you have a turk gun

Bump

>>64829798
so a little less than an h1 buffer? sure try it out I guess. I can see the spring being useful in this scenario. Depending on gas and what not a lot of random stuff can happen, my friend's build would work with the normal h2 buffer and standard spring because the buffer was too heavy and wouldnt push the bolt back enough. I believe we ended up getting it working with a h1 and lighter than standard carbine spring becuase his system was undergassed

>>64830151
>esp. If you have a turk gun
Any particular reason?

If anything I'd think the opposite. The MKE guns have been in production for military/police for decades as a proper machine gun. Only recently modified semi-auto only for US market.

>>64830537
>Any particular reason?
He's triggered by the word and wants to appear knowledgeable about guns, so he regurgitates negativity like an "expurt".

>>64830537
IMHO it's less the AP5 and more the other clones like the MAC & POF, but you can still run into issues. The MKE's are by far the best mass produced (and licensed) clones on the market, QC is better than everyone aside from HK but sometimes things slip through the cracks.

I own a AP5, bolt gap was in spec out of the box towards the upper limit at 0.4,worst I've heard is a new AP5 needing +5 rollers out of the box, but theres been more issues with the non-trilug budget AP5's for example.

Your going to need feeler guages anyway even if you get an SP5 as the gun wears

I don’t know anything about FRT’s.
I just have 2 questions.
>if someone orders one for say a Glock, is that ok? Like will you get a knock on the door from the ATF?
and
>how much do those things cost out of curiosity?

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Battlehawk is selling an AR with the Partisan FRT pre installed. Very interesting.

https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/vktr-vk-1-5.56mm-16-barrel-w-disruptor-frt-installed-black-rifle

>>64832139
>>how much do those things cost
It's not those things, it's the ammo you waste for giggles on a range toy. So priceless?

>>64832139
>>if someone orders one for say a Glock, is that ok? Like will you get a knock on the door from the ATF?
FRTs aren't illegal, but handguns weren't specifically mentioned really so it's pretty gray. There are a lot of people with glock and tx22 FRTs though

>>how much do those things cost out of curiosity?
For glock, depends on what kind of trigger, trips are pretty cheap and it's common to have 3d printed triggers too which are also very cheap. The aluminum triggers are more expensive obviously, but nothing that would break the bank. You can also get a section 8 housing (gen 1-3 only from my memory) which would make the reset easier to achieve because the alternative is to either cut the tail of the connector or buy and install the 3.5 connector on the trigger housing.

>>64832142
>pre-installed
>$1000 value added premium
Good for them!

>>64832158
yeah that price is ridiculous

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3 position separate 3D printed trigger pack by gdi-3d

>>64832200
for g36/sl8