>>64811528
>obsolete
Missing a picatinny I guess but that's fixed with the GG&G adapter. Not really obsolete.

Everyone knows the USP is obsolete. So obsolete in fact that, if you attempt to use it, the bullets will simply bounce off of your attacker. Sorry anon, time to buy a Glock :(

>>64811528
getting into collector's item territory.

>>64811545
for what? a flashlight? I'm not a cop.

>>64811528
It's not.

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>>64811528
Handguns haven't really gone obsolete for over 100 years now, they just get better ammo and a more efficient size package.

>>64811528
How very interesting that you didn't post a picture of the gun you own.

Or a firearm at all, given the image is airsoft.

>>64811748
>posting personal information on the internet
Only one type of person would be interested in that. Gee yourself

>>64811796
You already identified the make, model and caliber. Are you too retarded to censor your serial number, or to post the side of the gun that doesn't have a serial number?

No. You're just noguns larping which is much worse.

>>64811801
I guess you are right, couldn't possibly be anything other than what you said. It won't let me delete my post otherwise I would. I am so embarrassed right now.

>>64811805
We know.

>>64811810
You cracked the case.

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Pathetic creature.

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>>64811649
it went from the handgonne to the matchlock arquebus/musket in about 100 years
the in another hundred it went from the matchlock to the wheellock
them another 100 years from the wheellock to flintlock
then 100 years from flintlock to percussion caps
then 100 years after that we get smokeless power and both automatic and semi automatic rifles
it's been nearly 100 more years since then, where's our next great leap in firearms?

>>64811839
Wheellocks were a red herring. It was really just match to flint. That's where we are now btw. Wheellocks are probably caseless guns and we're still waiting the flintlock equivalent.

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>>64811528
Well, are you a big guy?

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Wtf HK why cant you make more of these

>>64811839
It would have to be some rechargeable energy gun. Even caseless ammo doesn't really increase the effective capabilities of a gun for the average Joe nor reduce the cost to fire it. We're already at the point where a skilled shooter can put 5 shots per second into a person's chest at handgun range, so all that's left to do is figure out how to make those bulletholes bleed more and make the gun easier for a completely untrained ape to use it effectively.

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>>64811876
>*pap* *pap* *pap*

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>>64811801
Not that it's an excuse, but USPs have the serial number visible on the left, right, and bottom.
>>64811876
The least they could do is make batches of the weights every once in a while

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>>64812024
Nice USP

>>64811528
everyone is immune to .45 now.

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It is not obsolete.
Has been superseded


>>64811649
>Handguns haven't really gone obsolete for over 100 years
Broadly this. You can still shoot and carry all those designs

>>64812337
lmao the HK45 is a stillbirth. Worse recoil because single spring vs USP/Mark 23 dual-spring setup, same capacity somehow and a grip where they didn't even let you change the side panels like on the VP9.

Easily one of the worst pistols HK has made.

USP owners need to stop acting like they own a usp for any reason other than vibes.

>>64811876
Combine contract dried up

>>64811649
The UC is a retarded design that is explicitly designed for youtuber's that don't like revolvers. The thing is heavier, bigger and with the dumb sights more snaggier than the 442. The perfect pocket revolver already existed but because people can't comprehend they don't need sights at 5 yards, Smith made a model for idiots, the UC. I have no beef with 32 H&R though.

>>64811796
Why did you make this thread? You don't own the gun you said you owned, your question is lazy (and you have no reason to care about the answer), and you're not even trying to cover for yourself. What is the goal here? Are you a bot?

>>64812435
>makes .45 feel like stout 9mm
>ergos good for not moving the sight when you pull the trigger
>literally can’t miss if the target is within 20 yards and your front sight post is on it.
Mines a beast.

>>64812435
Yeah

>>64811649
In that image, the PPK is definitely obsolete. It is considerably larger than the P32 and LCP, and the same size as the hellcat which holds 12rd of mm instead of 8 rounds of .32acp

>>64811545
>>64811590
fp is reaching for anything that might be used to argue that the usp is obsolete. ultimately the usp is such a 'solved' example of sidearms that the pistols that came after it (hk45, p2k, vp9, p30) bring only minute ergonomic improvements. USP (and several handguns from its era are/) is basically perfect.

>>64812337
>the USP has been superseded by a much larger gun with worse capacity
Are you retarded? The HK45 is more of a Mark 23 replacement, and it's inferior to that too because it has a bigger grip but only holds 10 rounds instead of 12.

>>64812435
>strawman
I'm pretty sure most of us explicitly state that we love our USPs and Mark 23s for "second kind of cool" reasons.

>>64812627
>second kind of cool
The first kind is that they are nearly perfect and still unsurpassed

>>64812671
>still unsurpassed

what does it do better than the px4 besides looks?

>>64812695
PX4 is unnecessarily wide. USPs are wide, the fact that PX4s are wider puts them in fat boy status.

>>64812695
>px4
There it is.
Low and behold it was a beretta troon the whole time.

>>64811528
It's mainly just the proprietary rail and no optics that make it "obsolete", but really it still is the softest 45 in the market.

>>64812994
>optics on a pistol
LMFAO

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>>64813013
>REEE RED DOT BAD
Cope grandpa

>>64811545
What if he wants to mount a VCOG or a RED DOT like everybody else on youtube? Mean girls would tear you apart at the range or the beauty salon in the mall. Everyone would be talking about you, and to add you probably forget to put on your deodorant for the last couple of days and you look greasy too.

Not keep up wit the fashion is a real wrecking ball move

Back in the day way before when it was trouble to red dot a glock my buddy used to get so pissed off at pistol accessorizers

For what a handgun is for extra gizmos do take away from the simplicity of a pistol starting out in a holster in a close quarters ambush

You'll have no time to be fingering lights and aligning perfectly behind a red dot

>>64811528
No, it's a great pistol but it is kind of chunky. Perhaps look into one of the many modern concealed carry pistols to complement it? There have been a lot of tiny 9mm pistols released in the last decade with generous magazine capacity and at least decent shooting characteristics.

>>64813204
I wish they would make a slim version of the P2000SK or P30SK to complement the CC9 (which sucks imo). If they could bring either of them down to 1", heck even 1.0X" wide, I would buy in a heartbeat to have muh micro USP

>>64812420
>>64812624
>>64812627
>>64812671

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkwjbQo16ZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1pKfxhKNuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr5rJ7NL14

>>64813514
Oh it's this faggot again who posts the same 3 youtube videos every time the HK45 comes up. Fuck off noguns. You don't even own an HK45.

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>>64812695
>>64812988
the Px4 and HK 45 / P30 are the finest modern combat handguns available
next would be CZ's P-09 / -07

>>64813079
>RED DOT
I hate pre-cut slides. I prefer to send it to a shop and get exactly what I'd want instead of needing an adapter plate.

>>64813524
>hrrduurrrrrp 'dat one same tree videos n-noguns'
Keep malding and seething videogameairsoftlarper never-touched-a-firearm noshoot.
Dilate harder with next response below this line
_______________________________________________

I love my USP 45. Kind of wish I would have just thrown more money back and gotten the USP Tactical or a Mark 23 instead though. That being said, I'm not at all opposed to buying more USPs in different forms and flavors.

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USP thread? Count me in.

>>64813581
How's do you compare your USP Compacts? I held one one at my LGS but wasn't entirely sold on it despite loving my USP 45. Maybe it was something about it not being as "compact" as other compact models on the market. But that aside, how do they actually shoot?

>>64813669
NTA but it's laughable that the USP compact is called a compact, it's why I never bought one. Get a P2000SK, it's as close as you'll get to a truly compact USP.

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>>64811528
It will be standard issue soon

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I also picked up a old complete 9mm slide (back when the barrels were rifled instead of polygonal) to swap on my USP 40 for shits and grins. Eventually I'd like to buy a standalone 9mm USP Compact just to have all 3 frame sizes.

>obsolete
>firearm
Jesus christ

>>64813514
These are on the same level as that boomer retard that said to not put a suppressor on a Mark 23 because the barrel will snap lmao. The HK45 is the reddest-head step child of all the modern HK pistols. They should scrap the P30 and HK45 and just focus on updating the USP series and VP9.

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>>64813669

The 45 shoots amazing, the 9mm is fine too. They're basically the size of a glock 19 and I've shot the 19 and my USPc back to back at the range. The USPc45 is my favorite gun so I'm pretty biased, ngl.

For reference I carry a CZ P01 or G43 when the weather is hot (so all the time, I'm in texas)

>>64813731
Funnily enough, after holding that USPc9 and not really being sold on it immediately, I ended up going with a CZ P01 as well. Interesting that there's some overlap here.
Idk, the more I shoot 9mm, the less and less it does for me desu. Maybe I'd appreciate the USPc45 more than the 9, but that being said, I haven't actually fired either. All I know is that I really love my USP45.
I won't rule out the compact models entirely, but I'll say that I'm still leaning towards upping to a Mark 23 before grabbing a "Compact".
Glad to know that the small difference in size isn't so off-putting to the actual shooting experience though. Maybe I'll change teams later down the line.

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>>64811528
Glock 21 better.

>>64813779
No it isn't.

t. carries a Glock but owns a USP (USP is too big to carry in my climate)

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Maybe a bit out of date but I switch to carrying my compact from a P-01 after I bought it last year

>>64813787
Damn sounds like the Glock is better since you actually carry it.

>>64813819
It's smaller, fuckstick

>>64811528
>mk23
>usp45 tactical
Which and why?

>>64813884
So better because you can actually carry it.

>>64813906
Nah it sucks dick but it works. The USP is nice to shoot but I can't carry it because I don't live in the frozen wastes.

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>>64813759

Yeah, I get it. I bought the 9mm compact last, its alright but I prefer the P01 when it comes to compact 9mm. The USPc45 is different though, its fun as fuck to shoot and I feel perfectly comfortable carrying it, I just don't want the cops getting their grubby hands on it if I ever have to use it, whereas I can replace the P01 easier.

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>>64813779
Every single thing about Glocks bites except for the reliability. They're bulky, the triggers are complete ass, they're ugly, they're overpriced, and wristlets can cause them to jam by being wristlets. Every glock fanboy puts so many aftermarket parts on their glock to make it decent that they only have an original slide and piece of plastic left. OTOH, every single thing about the USP is great except for the rail. It's reliable, it has a nice trigger out of the box, it looks sweet, and even the most limp wristed pantywaisted fag can get it to cycle. USPs would be much more common as carry guns if HK wasn't retarded and made a compact that is actually compact instead of keeping the grip basically exactly the same size and shortening the slide an inch like retards. Glock even repeated this blunder with the 43x which has a G26 size slide but a G19 size grip, and glocktards ate that shit up like siggers ate up the P320.

>>64813725
>hurrrrrrP 'd-dey shuld scrap duhh peethirdy a-annn updoot USP1!1!1!1!!!!!!!!' Derrrrp
Watch and comprehed the armorer videos in post (You) replied to Dumb Fuck nogunz Fuckbag plebbitard.

>>64813900
checked,

Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr5rJ7NL14
is the answer

>>64811528
I started playing with mine again recently and I forgot how much I liked it. Hadn't shot it since new years 2023.

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>>64814017
wtf are you on about? This Glock is completely stock. I put a little texture on the grip cuz I like it. The stock trigger is perfect.

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>>64814041
You left-wing leaning parasite. You expect me to sit here and read your drivel? You're going to the gas chamber.

>>64811528
>literal perfection is obsolete

If HK did a USPA1 then they would sell out immediately. I'm surprised they haven't seeing as beretta turned the 92 into a money printer

>>64812420
>more springs le better
kys

>>64813725
Spent $600 more for a outdated HK .45 for vidya nostalgia slave reddit updotes and is malding on my insufficiently-gatekept hellsite award

>>64813900
Which for what? The Mark 23 is unquestionably a better range toy, but unless you're massive or completely autistic you it's useless as a carry gun. I would guess you're not going to carry a USP tactical either, so in that case I'd say just get the Mark 23.

>>64814117
Not that anon, but the HK 45 is objectively worse because it was made for the 2005 gun contract test which was to outfit every single military branch with the same 45. It was made to achieve a price point, not to be a special forces/limited production gun like the USP. You cn stop coping and just admit that the hk45 is worthless compared to the USP full size, whereas the hk45c and usp45 are more comparable

>>64814135
*hk45c and usp45c are more comparable

>>64811528
Dots and lights but there's adaptors and people who have figured out the cut for dots.
It's real downside is holster availability. I spent so fucking long looking for a holster for my own USP. Other then the holsters it's a fine pistols if a little dated

>>64813900
USP 45 Expert with a threaded barrel is the thinking man's Mk23
>>64814017
>USP
>Nice trigger out of the box
Absolutely not

>>64812435
I mean there's a whole list of objectives qualities I like about the gun such as being basically bomb proof when it comes to wear and tear, a proven record with LE and MIL use and it's a decent pistol for CC use even in its full size configuration. And yes it is a fucking vibe.

>>64813019
Paying 400 bucks for an optics cut is a lot but they do some very nice work

>>64814108
I mean they did, it's called the P2000.

>>64814186
Unfortunately LTT doesn't just have a cut, it is a proprietary cut that they then try to sell to the companies. They just got beretta to now do their specific Rdo cut for the 92

>>64814162
>Absolutely not
You must have bought a clapped out gun.

>>64814196
Oh I'm talking about wright not Ltt. Ltt is like half their price. Wright straight up refinishes the slide which is what costs so much and adds so much time to their work

>>64814244
What do they refinish it with?

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>>64814251
'QPQ black nitride' with options to add their NT7 Teflon coating which I understand is very nice but it's like an additional 200 bucks

>>64814281
They're expensive as fuck but they seem to take a lot of pride and care in their work and I have yet to hear anything negative (besides that $450 price point) about them unlike LTT

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>>64814287
Forgot my image

>>64814192
>they did, it's called the P2000
Anons itt need to watch the HK 45 James Williamson armorer video upthread
Complete engineering development history of the full USP / Mark 23 / Tactical / P2000 / HK 45 handgun series

(also a separate vid on the P30 series)

>>64814281
>>64814287
>>64814290
I know you haven't had it for a long time, but how would you say the finish holds up compared to the original one? I have considered getting one of mine milled for an optic but I love the original HK finish.

>>64814320
I try not to, I always end up masterbating

>>64814424
Sadly those aren't mine but from the USP master race Reddit and wright's store. I just got out of a minimum wage job and intend to send mine and a EPS for them to mount next month now that I have the capital. From the reviews I've seen it's about 95% of the durability of the original coatings from HK and much better then cerakoat. It obviously is a uniform coating so you're not going to have to worry about color matching.

>>64814017
>it has a nice trigger out of the box
You have never owned a USP.

>>64814592
How to trigger a trigger elitist. USP has a good trigger, which it does.

>>64814623
It's better than the lelkek p11's so if that's good enough for you to call good, more power to you. Every USP I've handled has had the break of a carrot with a long reset. Stoning the sear and swapping the springs will get you a decently crisp break but the reset is a boner killer.

>>64814623
USP expert* has a good trigger sear
HK45 is the same btw

>>64814592
Correct, not "A" USP, two USPs.

>>64814623
worse yet, he's an elitist that doesn't own guns, preferring to parrot nonsense posted here (by other people who do not own/shoot guns)

>>64811528
For .45 ACP handguns it's still pretty damn good but the FN 545 is able to hold up to 18 rounds which is insane these days but I can tell the magazine pops out while 12 round mags generally don't.
For .40S&W it's still the best and sometimes I wish I had one
For 9mm it is super obsolete and guns that came before and after it are better.
I mean for a 9mm it's fine but we have the Beretta 92, Glock 19/17, VP9 and plenty of others that do 9mm better

>>64814718
>the FN 545 is able to hold up to 18 rounds which is insane these days
545 with a flush mag holds 15 rounds, that's more relevant. You can get extended mags for a USP as well so the extension is kind of irrelevant. It would be really nice if the Mark 23 had a 15 round flush mag capacity since the grip is nearly identical in size to the FN545

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>>64811528
you shut your whore mouth

>>64814969
Snake's gun if he were a midget

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>>64811528
This + 2 mags of 230gr HST are my daily carry. Eat my farts.

>>64811528
Should I get this or a Sig P320?

>>64814999
Checked, me on the left

>>64811528
It was obsolete in 2001.

>>64815082
>was obsolete in 2001
No (still is not today), it was superseded.

Hey, Josh.

>>64813204
Do you still have one and still live in California?

>>64815628
No and no. They fell off roster and I sold one for a hefty sum before I left. I sold the majority of my guns before escaping specifically because they are far more valuable in California than outside of it. Doing this went a long ways towards covering the costs.

>>64811528
I don't know, how well have you maintained it?

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I need more .45 ammo

>>64815008
As someone who owns both, just get the USP.
You could probably afford a P320 a little later since they are getting a little cheap

>>64815008
>should I buy a gun known for its cool looks and durability or a gun that is known only for possibly being faulty enough to self-discharge in isolated cases
GEE I WONDER

>>64815748
Damn the USP is not on the roster?

>>64816030
Not me, got a garage full

>>64815178

...Adam?

>>64816608
Apparently the subcontractor that provided springs for H&K folded, so they started sourcing springs elsewhere and to the CA DOJ that constituted a design change. As a result they yanked the USP series off the roster overnight with no notice. That's the story I heard. They could have just discontinued the USP series for different reasons, but if that's the case they could have kept them on roster until at least the end of the year. A manufacturer can also pay to keep discontinued models on roster after they are out of production as a courtesy so that CA gun owners can continue to bring them in, but that's not super common because it's a waste of their money to do that if they don't intend to bring that model back in the future.

>>64812024
That weed looks like shit

>>64811528
Not obsolete, if you cared about it

>>64814465
Do you like the EPS? I was thinking about getting one

>>64816699
Yeah, lol

>>64811649
What is the point of making guns uglier like that Hellcat?

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>>64811528
Maybe not obsolete but it is sexy.

>>64811528
>Chonky Blaster
>Two world wars!
It's timeless if you ask me

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i luv my usp

Ok where can i find a decent holster for this thing? I didn't even find one on safariland

>>64819006
Have you tried typing USP holster into a search engine?

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>>64818889
kek

>>64812621
Similarly, the USP is larger and heavier and lower capacity than the equivalent Glock, therefore, the USP is obsolete.

>>64819712
Yeah but the Glock shoots worse, has more muzzle flip, and is less reliable in the examples I’ve fired. Also with a follower swap or modification, the USP .45 can hold 14 in a stock flush mag.

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Haven't shot it in a while but man I love this gun.
This, the Glock 19, Beretta M9, 686, and 638 are the only guns I absolutely must keep with me at all cost

>>64819718
>the Glock shoots worse, has more muzzle flip, and is less reliable in the examples I’ve fired.
That's interesting I've had the complete opposite experience. In the example I fired, the USP .45 couldn't make it through a single magazine without malfunctioning, while all the Glocks I have ever shot ran flawlessly.

>>64819749
Fresh out of the box? Or capped out range rental? Or your personal gun that you never maintained? I threw in the last one to be generous.

>>64819762
Two different friend’s personal pieces, one a short frame with the different texture. Both sucked, Glocks were never meant to be in any caliber past 9mm.

>>64819762
Range gun. I also rented a Remington R51 the same day that was unironically more reliable than the HK.

>>64813731
That L9A1 from the turks has been holding up?

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>>64819739
wtf is that mag release? is it easy to engage?

>>64819843
Thats a stock USP mag release and it's never given me an issue
Stop being retarded

>>64819789
Range guns that everyone wants to shoot are always clapped to fuck and only an idiot would take them as a representation of that gun's performance.

>>64819712
This mindset is what caused me to miss out on a lot of good things when I first started the gun hobby.
Simply looking at things “on paper” instead of actually realizing what makes a gun good is way more complex.
A Glock is superior to essentially every gun if going by the spreadsheet metric of size and weight; that’s literally their whole shtick. They are built very light, minimalistic, and make certain sacrifices in order to achieve best in class size and weight reduction. Glocks best feature is simply being comfortable to wear on your hip all day compared to a lot of other guns.
When it comes to functional shooting, glocks do have low muzzle flip for how light they are, but I still think most other guns that don’t make any compromises to be super light and sleek are better shooters in terms of feel and making accurate shots.
A .45 caliber USP is a better gun overall than a .45 caliber Glock in my opinion.

>>64811528
Not very, Bullet is bullet.
>>64811590
It's mostly a QoL thing with hot swapping optics. Like if you wanted to try out a holosight or scope a picatinny makes it easy.

>>64819957
yeah i dont think an R51 is getting rented that often, dude. plus people who rent guns fire maybe 200 rounds total through them in a session.

>>64820081
I was talking about the USP being unreliable. You can say whatever you want about the USP; bulky for the capacity, trigger isn't great, overpriced, all true. But the second you say "unreliable" you're either lying or you used the most clapped unmaintained examples around. USPs are Glock levels of reliable. If they weren't, I wouldn't own any USPs to go along with my Glocks.

>>64811545
The rail adapter is shit and will fall off with any hard use.

To be updated the USP needs a pic rail and the ability to mount optics. Maybe some slight alterations to allow for greater than 15 rounds would be good too. I wouldn’t wait for it. HK is too autistic to update their classic designs and they haven’t been relevant since the 90s. Sorry

>>64811876
Forget about Freeman

>>64811528
absolutely god like duty pistol that none of the strikerfire 9 mememeters can compete

>>64811528
It's fine unless you want something with a slimmer grip, which would be the USP 45 Compact or HK45 Compact.

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>>64819804

Yes, though be aware like all Hi Powers the extractor is a weak point in the design. I spent $30 on a Browning extractor kit and a thin file and replaced the extractor and spring, its actually one of my favorite guns to shoot.

I own Glocks and a USP and both are fine guns that excel in their purposes

>>64819957
Exact opposite. If a range gun works fine for a year then you know it's good.

>>64820107
Use the surefire adaptor then, that shit will never come off. It can also take optics there's a few examples in this thread. If you want an updated USP the p2000, p30, HK45 and the other improvements exist.

>>64820914
Very hard to find. Then you have the headache of finding a working holster. For all that grief you’re better off carrying without a light. Then you have to deal with reduce capacity and extra weight. At that point you may as well carry a Glock since it will just do everything better. I love the look of the USP but it’s incredibly dated at this point

>>64820110
MY
ASS
IS
HEAVY

>>64820965

Holsters are easy for the gg&g adapter, hell just go look at KT Mech.

>>64820965
Yeah like the other anon said, KT Mech has been the go to for USP holsters for ages, at least 10 years, where have you been? The rest of your arguments aren’t even worth addressing, they’re that weak.

>>64820904
>a year
Ok, how long has that clapped unmaintained rental you were using been in use?

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>>64821052
Idk I just worked at a range for a year and we had several guns that couldn't stay in the case for more then a month at a time

>>64820965
DeFender.co started making reproduction critically using a 2 part body the thing that gives the old surefire it's strength

>>64821205
dead site

>>64811528
I don't care about lights or red dots but the way you still have to hammer out a takedown pin seems obsolete from day 1 when the P226 and M9 solved this years before.

>>64813525
>CZ's P-09 / -07

do these have a long metal rail embedded in the inside of the frame

>>64811528
What is the origin caliber the USP was developed for? I heard Small Arms Solutions mention that it was for the .40? Did I remember wrong or did he told me wrong?

>>64821247
Yup. Unobtanium

>>64821285
>hammer
Get ye to the gym

>>64820388
>?si=Psy-qH4VXrEVG8DY
thank you mossad

>>64820107
>will fall off with any hard use
>WhAt Is ThReAd LoCkEr?!?
Retard

>>64821322
No it was one of if not the first purpose built .40 cal guns.

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>>64821470
It’s never going to hold a candle to an integrated rail. Enjoy your cope adapter. If it makes you feel better the 92fs is also incredibly outdated. The 1911 is too other than the fact the trigger on it is incredible and the 2011 brings it to a modern era.

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>>64821602
Thank You, Sir.
Thats why I bought the HK45, when I wanted my first gun in Gods caliber, in the only beautiful polymer gun I ever saw and decided to buy the USP .40 later even it has the perfect grip for me.
Meanwhile they stopped the production of .40 USPs in Germany - bc very low demand for that caliber.

>>64811528
always been because the mk23 is superior

>>64815008
>should I get a gun designed by krauts made in krautland, or a suicide device designed by 56% mutts and made in the sphincter of asia?

>>64821722
not gonna lie, the HK45's rounded grip feels so much better than my USP tactical 45. it feels very natural in the hand whereas pointing a USP or a Mk 23 is like aiming a brick. i'd like to have one.

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>>64811528
everything evolves into the USP

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Universal
Self Loading
Pistol

>>64822744
So buy one, they're not expensive. They're also fucking massive. Like half an inch taller than a mark 23 since you mentioned that one.

>>64821622
>2011
Opinion discarded

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This thread is making me want to go to the range today

The USP mags feel so fucking cheap and shitty. 50 dollars a pop is fucking insane.

>>64824331
You're just poor

>>64811528
Pistols are all obsolete, fuckwit.
If you like it, it's perfectly adequate

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>>64824138
lol, we great minds, think alike, anon, and yes, the pain in the rear of the box is shit, mine got scratched.

>>64824331
Only the .40 s&w and 9mm mags are polymer, the .45 mags are steel

>>64824350
I actually make a very good living. Just because I don’t like spending my money on cheap poorly made shit doesn’t make me poor.

>>64824368
Are these toys or tools? Jfc

>>64821602
>>64821722
>>64822744
These anons get it.

>>64823995
Watch the first video here : >>64813514

>>64824541
tools for what? Ever shot anyone, dipshit?

>>64811528
>no rail
>not cut for optics
>frame isn't modular
>DA/SA
>exposed hammer
>.45 ACP
Yes, Boomer, it's obsolete. It's not the 20th Century anymore. Get a Glock in 9mm.

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>>64811528
You may not like it but it's mine.
>inb4 not finished
I know.

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>>64824725
>Boomer
Yeah

>>64824580
>Watch the first video here : >>64813514
Why did you reply to me with this? I don't want to watch one video about them let alone 3. Are you autistic or are you trying to shill your videos for views?

>>64824725
>USP is obsolete, so get a far more obsolete gun!

>>64811590
>I'm not a cop

Yeah neither am I but I've used a pistol light to illuminate and shoot an armadillo one night. Don't have to be a cop to have generally useful items on your guns mate

>>64811528
It's gonna be a classic and it's good. So when guns are obsolete soon I guess.

>>64821205
>>64821247
>>64821336

https://www.machinecraftreplicas.com/products/mr-nein-mr09-alternative-for-full-size-usp-models

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>>64824541
A Glock is a tool, the USP is a range toy/queen safe. If I ever get an intruder I will shoot at him with my Glock, since I rather the cops will take it as evidence.

>>64824725
let me add
>huge trigger guard
>terrible trigger reset
>low capacity
>terrible and expensive mags
>the slide is the size of a barn

>>64825142
>Yeah neither am I but I've used a pistol light to illuminate and shoot an armadillo one night
Jesus, you're lucky to be alive

>>64824937
Glocks can't be obsolete since all the other manufacturers just copy them.

>>64824861
How is that comp? Any noticeable recoil reduction?

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>>64824927
>'r-reply to me'
idgaf who (You) fucking are = a Fucking plebbitard Faggot.

It's for the Fucking plebbitard Faggot # 64823995 <--that does not belong on this board
>"DURRRRrrrrrrrrrrp d-dey're fucking massive," "half an inch taller than a mark23"
*whoever the fuck* typed ^that incomprehensible midwit slop

luv me USP

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a worthy successor JMBs masterpiece

>>64828798
You should have renamed the image file name as well for the full effect

>>64827850
Ok so you are autistic. Thanks for the confirmation.

>>64829015
big miss on my part

>>64811590
>not positively identifying your target at night

>>64829502
That's what muzzle flash is for.

>>64825237
nogunz as fuck

given that ripperdoc prices for subdermal armor have crashed, yes - your gun is obsolete

>>64826940
NTA but it makes the gun louder and more fun to shoot

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USP 9 full size or compact?

I'm in California so I can only buy used. I literally went to all the gun stores in my area the past week and found 2 compacts, one of them had the Gray Guns short reset kit and flat trigger, but what I really want is the full size. I also already have a P2000 which is already so similar to the compact that I feel I should just wait to find what I really want.

Thoughts?

>>64829686
The P2000 is quite literally an improved USP compact, including cheaper cost and a functional rail with a slot. I'll never understand why HK decided to discontinue it and still keep the USP Compact going. Get the fullsize if you want variety, or get a compact if you want more-or-less the same thing.

>>64829663
I use m80s for that

>>64825237
>huge trigger guard
Feature, not a flaw
>terrible trigger reset
Either you're lying or mine just happens to be pretty good.
>low capacity
12 rounds is excellent for a .45 that’s functionally equivalent in size to a beretta 92 but is in fact slightly smaller in some dimensions.
>terrible and expensive mags
The .45 mags are good but yes, expensive
>slide is the size of a barn
It’s not that big

>>64813779
i always think the 21 is one of the best-looking glocks, its just so satisfyingly chonky. will probably get one eventually even though i have absolutely no need for it lol
also nice stippling or checkering or whatever on the frame, who did it?

>>64814999
checked

>>64829686
>>64829768
>P2000
remains perhaps the most under recognized modern legacy handgun of any manufacturer, its SK variant included

>>64818367
Let us know how the gay sex went

mindblowing the usp45 is single stack. I thought for over a decade it was a doublestack 10 round mag. Why the fuck would I want a single stack .45 that isn't a 1911?

Think I might get an fnx45

>>64831821
What? No it's double stack

>>64831821
FNX-45 feels flimsy and cheap in the hand and the extra capacity comes with gigantic mags. G21 or USP-45 are better choice.

>>64829768

The P2000 was pointless IMO and just cheaper knockoff of the uspc. The P2000SK however was a great pistol, rented one at the range and loved. It would be my carry in a ban state.

I wish someone made those translucent P8 mags or clear ones for the 45 USP

>>64832865

I wish mec gar made higher cap flush fits for the USP45

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>>64813937
Not the same anon

You're a pussy, just carry the USP, printing isnt as big of an issue as you think unless you're in a cuck state

>Frozen waste anon but fuck you

>>64813941
You're a pussy too. Telling me if you have to shoot someone you wouldnt want it to be the USP just because you may lose it to the cops? I'd rather be called based online for using a USP.

>>64833135
Suck my cock, snownigger. I don't want some hysterical libshit seeing the outline of a gun through my t shirt and calling the cops on me. There are more of them fleeing to my "red" state every year.

>>64833135

Lmao its because I value my USP more than the life of some scumbag on the streets, the cops can take my glock 43 or CZ and ganging it in evidence all they want, I'll just buy another.

>>64812507
>The UC is a retarded design that is explicitly designed for youtubers that don't like revolvers.
I don't hate the .32 H&R and I appreciate caliber options, but the praise I see it getting with the UC fits that bill well. Everyone is so in awe over that one extra shot that I never see anyone mention how much they actually shoot it considering .32 H&R/.327 Mag starts at x2 the price of .38 Special. I have yet to see anyone share their .32 reloading recipes either when discussing the UC.

>>64833748
I bought a 632 UC and it is quite nice. Noticeably less recoil than a .38, except when using Buffalo Bore +P hardcast rounds. The extra shot isn’t a huge deal, but it is nice. The improved sights, though, that IS a huge deal. Anyone who disagrees has never tried shooting a UC variant back to back for comparison with the awful sights on any standard J frame. Nor have they actually tried to draw it from a pocket. There’s no snag whatsoever, that is complete cope.

>>64832295
>was pointless
>P2000SK great pistol
Latter would not exist without the former

>>64834581

Fair, I guess they had to make the P2000 to be like "wait, this would be far better as a subcompact"

>>64829686
Check CAguns/CALguns for used USPs.

>>64811649
these are dogshit choices. the lcp max is a better 380, or the bodyguard 2. NAA Guardian is better than the keltec and you can get better sights and the hellcat is the second worst option of all the 1.5 stacks. and the ppk hasnt been a serious carry gun in 30 years.

>>64811748
posted by gatekeeping retard who doesnt own any guns

Not obsolete at all. Double stack, polymer frame, super reliable. The caliber has fallen out of favor but is by no means obsolete. And there’s nothing wrong with hammer fired - striker fired is just simpler and allows a slightly higher grip on the gun.

Can the USP also handle 45 super, or is that just the MK23?

>>64835546
>Can the USP also handle 45 super, or is that just the MK23?
Yes, but it's best to use the stronger recoil spring assembly when shooting .45 super. The stronger one is installed from the factory on the Tactical, Expert, and Elite models but the standard model has a slightly weaker recoil spring assembly.

>>64835546
>>64835579
>handle
Yes but HK won't back the warranty

>>64829686
Full size, you've already got a compact. I've got a p2000 and I was not impressed when the front white dot flew off in under 50 rounds.

>>64829768
It's called, the USP looks fucking good. Like it objectively looks the best out of all contemporary HK handguns.

>>64829686
Actually I take my opinion back, get a compact, that way,you have a USP of some kind, and could possibly trade it later on to some fag with a fullsize. They are only going to get harder to get from here on out.