>>64812434
I wonder how long until we start reaching total aircraft death
I don't hear about zigger jets being shot down too often but the sheer number of hours on the airframes has got to be taking a toll

Alleged losses at this point (expecting a couple to turn out to be double-taps/near misses)
>1xMi-28
>1xMi-8
>1xMi-26
>2xSu-30SM
>2xMiG-31
>2xSu-27
>3xSu-24
>2xAn-26
>ammo depot
lmao

>>64812474
>ammo depot
Nuked again???

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>>64812434
>just leave it out in some shipping containers blyat!

>>64812474
The ratio of cost to effectiveness is kind of fucking astronomical at this point. Even one of those jets is somewhere in the vicinity of tens of millions to replace

All decoys. The supposed ammo depot is a fertilizer factory, staffed by hohol pows. Porkies can't stop roasting their own )))

>>64812488
This. You can tell because of the immaculate paint on the "airships". Bird strikes are a normal part of combat sorties.

>>64812488
You jest but the Ukrainians droned the oil depot in a town that's literally called Hoholsky.

>>64812434
Was this another spiderweb style deep strike?

>>64812448
>>64812474
Please understand all of these are minor damage that will be fixed in days :^)

>>64812478
I hope there is good footage of it, I love going into Toropets threads and saying it was a nuke and Russia is so scared they just let themselves be nuked without retaliation.

>>64812434
>what air defense doin?
its job but low iq /k/ nigga tards dont seem to understand how survivorship bias works
and that for every drone that we see lauching a turret in to the great beyond there are 99 of them getting jammed you will never see.
>muh zigger bot shill nigger whatever
that goes both ways

>>64812501
Couple of guys and a cement mixer, well he says he's called Ivan at home but he mixes cement

>>64812508
>there are 99 of them getting jammed you will never see
Official stats are ~10% hit rate on the front and until I see any tracers flying in these deep strike videos I find it hard to believe it is there or if it is there that they are crewed 24/7.

>>64812508
Why are you getting upset at the meme of 'what air defense doin''? That was what a Russian said on telegram after something got hit. It has nothing to do with people believing that all drones hit their target and shit. What a baffling conclusion leap on your part.

LURK.
MOAR.

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>>64812434
And once again an airfield quietly exploded.

>>64812488
But where are the orphans, the world wonders

>>64812434
>>64812474
Wait wtf did I miss. Please tell me we'll get aftermath pics and vids

>>64812530
>we'll get aftermath pics and vids
The OSINTbros will have already paid for the before and after satellite pics. So you just gotta wait.

>>64812434
Spiderweb 2: Arachnid Boogaloo?

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You degenerate westerners don't undertstand! Constant humiliation is what brings back the strong men which bring good times. Humiliation is good for the spirit of a people!

>>64812434
Catbox version with higher res?

>>64812434
>Appears that Ukraine pulled a fairly major attack on some Russian airbases recently
This isn't one strike, it's a 2025-best-of clip showing some of SBU's Alpha group's aircraft kills through '25.
They presented it in economic terms.
>5 airfields
>15 aircraft
>$1 billion losses
▪
>11 винищyвaчiв i бoмбapдyвaльникiв: Cy-30CM, Cy-34, Cy-27, Cy-24, MiГ-31
>3 гeлiкoптepи: Mi-28, Mi-26, Mi-8
>1 тpaнcпopтний лiтaк: Aн-26

>>64812548
Unironically, yes. Russia has forced onto their people the idea that going without and living in hardship is a positive and makes you (not us) stronger. Unlike the degenerate West who have everything and it makes them weak. Conversely, if you're indoctrinated to think having little is good then when you lose what little you have through hardship (like a war) then you don't have people rising up because they have been taught that this is actually positive for the people. Anybody who might question it are told that when 'total victory is achieved, everybody will benefit' and that they will get what little they had back, maybe a bit more (but not too much) the fact they don't and won't is irrelevant.

>>64812554
>Catbox version with higher res?
Knock yourself out.
https://t.me/ButusovPlus/26516

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>>64812558
Don't forget the 'Good old days'
We're going to have a war, clean up all our borders and then Russia will be back to the good old days going forward. All the pensioners cheer as they get enough cash to buy and extra can of cat food for sunday lunch, safe in the knowledge that while they live like niggers, the decadent west is hanging out for heroin tuesday and had to eat all their sparrows.

>there was never any good old days
>it was always fucking awful

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No, those attacks were over 2025 and posted only now as year ended

>>64812478
I-IS THAT A MUSHROOM CLOUD???? SAVE ME HIROMOOT I AM GOING INSAAAANE

>>64812501
>Was this another spiderweb style deep strike?
No it's a compilation of strikes from 2025. Many of them never before seen though.

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>>64812534
We must go deeper!

>>64812534
someone should draw a spidergirl bondaging alpha chan.

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>>64812557
>>64812595
Dang, I had my hopes up for a second.

>>64812474
>not quite spiderweb level
>like 9 fighter craft
dude that's basically on par, that's fucking nuts

>>64812508
The implication being that Ukrainians managed to infiltrate 99 other drones for every one we do see hit a target.
What is border patrol doing ?

>>64812474
>>64812999
these vids are a collection from the last 6ish months.

>>64813015
ah ok then

>>64812474
>2xAn-26
Transport ones or did they lose another two strategic bombers?

>>64812486
>replace

>>64812434
>again
cmon what the fuck

>>64812575
>safe in the knowledge that while they live like niggers, the decadent west is hanging out for heroin tuesday and had to eat all their sparrows.
kek I save that one for later use.

>>64812733
I strive to be as tunnel focused and autistic as him everyday.

>>64812497
Xaxaxa was hoholsky oil

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Time to fly, fly again
Under the blow of the Patriot missiles

>>64812448
They have a lot of spare flankers and mig31s to pull parts from in fairness

>>64813902
Patriot or AMRAAM

>>64813954
idk, only that it's eternal flight. Might have just crashed and burned itself

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I'm impressed/scared that both sides are still getting Su-24s up. Maintenance-heavy swing-wings that weren't exactly the most produced design to begin with, and some have been pieced together to keep flying. The conflict's given me a respect for them.

They bag any TU-160s yet? I know triad escalation but one can still ask.

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>>64813902
What could have gone wrong?

>>64812434
>Appears that Ukraine pulled a fairly major attack on some Russian airbases recently.
I've seen nothing about a major attack and I follow several Ukie sources.

>>64813995
that anon is retarded who didn't read source. It was just summary of 2025 in Crimea, still huge but not one time event

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>>64813975
Those pictures of Su-24's with Storm Shadows underwing gave me a boner the first time I saw them.

>>64813954
>Patriot or AMRAAM
They're saying patriot near Odesa but they're saying a lot of things, information is unreliable for now.

There was a second one that landed a bit hard, 2x200.

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>>64812434
any idea what the top indicator is?

instinct says heading tape but i don't recall arched designs and it seems moot since it's the arrow that moves instead of the band itself
is it just an extra roll indicator?

>>64814078
I don't get why there's all this "reeee this aircraft isn't capable for firing XXX missile"
Like, just put the missile on the plane, are they stupid?

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>>64812434
>Attacks on air bases inside Russia almost from the beginning of the war
>Scores of literally irreplaceable airframes destroyed
>Fighters, supersonic bombers, AWACS, everything you can imagine
>Billions upon billions of dollars gone up in flame
>Three years, eleven months on...
>Planes still stored on open tarmacs
>Half the revetments don't even reach wingheight
>Not so much as a tarp draped up to make target identification a teeny bit harder

>>64812508
In war, what matters is the end result. Just like in football. No use boasting your goalie managed to block 9 balls but 1 got through and you lost 1-0.

>>64813931
Reconditioning a jet aircraft is not like refurbishing a tank. You're looking at millions of dollars in repairs for each one.

>>64815017
>Enlisted- not my problem, I don't fly a plane. Getting blown up with the ammo dump? Couldn't happen to me.
>Officers- not my problem, I don't fly a plane. Getting court marshaled for incompetence? Couldn't happen to me, I'll just suck my superior's cock and be fine.
>Pilots- not my problem, if my plane is damaged or destroyed I don't need to risk my life getting in that deathtrap. Getting reassigned to assault infantry? Couldn't happen to me, I'll just spread my cheeks for the higher ups if I need to.
>Command staff- not my problem, I don't fly a plane and the budget for those shelters will be much better served buying me some new boys to buttfuck and a golden toilet. Consequences for my incompetence? Couldn't happen to me, I'll just give my boss a chunk of the budget I embezzled and maybe one or two mobiks to rape and I'll be fine.
Please note that none of these examples are gay, being gay is illegal in based and trad Rasha after all.

>>64814991
Looks like it's just a roll indicator. It seems to only correspond to when and how far the drone is tilting.

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>>64815017
It's the revetment one that gets me because it's not like there's money required. You can't shrug and say it's because the general embezzled the hardened aircraft shelter budget. They're earthworks. You can made them out of whatever you find on the ground because they're literally *made of ground*. "Cheap as dirt" isn't an expression for once. Do you have at least one hand? Then great, you have all the tools you need to build a dirt mound.

>>64815069
>Oh, but Russians are lazy
I'm not expecting the mobiks to show initiative in the matter. I know morale is non-existent, the pay is laughable, no one wants to be there. Ok, sure. But the Russian military is built on subservience. For fuck's sake, the rank structure is basically a pyramid of prison rape hierarchy. The mobiks are more slave-like than ACTUAL SLAVES were. If a plantation owner had called his slaves faggots and ordered them to walk straight into gatling gun fire, they would have brained him with a hoe and sprinted North. But a Russian with a loaded gun will salute and shuffle off to a painful death. We've all seen it happen.
Which makes the aircraft revetment (or lack thereof) issue wild to me. Russia might be the first civilization to collapse because the slave owners (officers) were too lazy to check to see if the slave overseers (sergeants) were too lazy to make the slaves (privates) do all the work.

>>64815122
Mobiks serving far away from the frontlines bribed their way there. Meaning they are from the wealthy families who would be pissed if their offspring were being used for hard work.

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>>64812434
kind of wacky how even one drone gets through air defenses, and most certainly on radar. despite russian policy of moving aircraft overnight, they still get drone'd.

>>64815204
nigger what? there are far better ways to not serve in the russian army. e.g.
>leave the country
>go to college
>work in a "critical industry" e.g. as a programmer or a firearm designer
>alternative civilian service (it's 2 years though so not a popular option)
>bribe a doctor to say you have bone spurs or something

>>64815266
It is a prestige thing, you need to be able to say you did military or you are a pussy or possibly a traitor, but that does not mean you actually want to serve where you could get killed.

>>64815266
>>bribe a doctor to say you have bone spurs or something
only works in the US. Russia is now desperate enough to use people with missing limbs and physical disabilities that would make physical labor extremely difficult or impossible

>>64815284
"prestige" is basically worthless though. russia is a capitalist country - if your prestige doesn't help you pay rent or something then nobody cares.
in the USA, military service has prestige AND monetary value (through the GI bill, DEI for veterans and veterans' discounts) but army service is still generally unpopular here anyway.

>>64815292
proofs? have we seen an amputee russian get droned or something?

>>64815295
>"prestige" is basically worthless though.
It is the only thing that matters when it comes to actually powerful circles.
Of course it does not matter to slave class.

>>64815303
Homie, the powerful in Russia aren't sending their sons off to be enlisted men at an airbase outside Pisspoorgorod, Noonegivesafuck oblast. If you're going to try and post fanfiction here, at least start with a less retarded premise.

>>64815330
Of course not the truly powerful, but their third cousins have to go somewhere and that wont be the frontlines.

>>64815336
I am of very believing of you, comrade.
Additionally, you are of making convincing slavic speaking soundments.
We are both Russiamen.
>does head noddings

>>64815330
They don't even really run the draft through mosquecow and pidorsberg, thats for all the eastern colonies to carry. All the buryats, tuvans and mutt-mix siberians get to go because they're cheap, useless eaters and owe russia for even being allowed in the first place to exist.
Moscow Meat is expensive, there's reason those niggas get ratio'd to fuck

>>64815330
if russian oligarchs needed to donate sons to the army to farm prestige, they'd probably make them pilots or snipers or some shit, not E-1 roles that nobody cares about

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>>64815298
Ask and thou shall receive.

>>64815548
Anon, that doesn't count : this is old picture from May 2025. Russia introduced new tactics. The situation has evolved a lot : it is now even worse.

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>>64814078
>>64815013
That's nothing; consider the Frogfoot of Doom:

>tfw you will never own a Mig 35 or a footfoot
yet its always flankers in the news.

so sad.

>>64813112
>strategic bombers
Unfortunately that would be Tu-95.

But seeing how those as well as MiG-31, Tu-22 lob missiles at Ukraine I wonder why there aren't more attempts on deleting them. Or maybe the missiles don't do that much of real damage and is a good way to waste Russian resources.

Loosing Tu-160 would probably hilariously piss off Monke, but AFAIK they're not used and DESU i'm a little sad seeing such pretty planes burn.

>>64812434
War Krym

>>64814991
>is it just an extra roll indicator?
Seems like it.
It's the inverse of an artificial horizon.

>>64812497
>>64813655
Literally lmao

>>64815017
>Billions upon billions of dollars gone up in flame
All of them will be gone like dick in ass

>>64815266
>leave the country
no money, basically need to do this before turning 18 just to be safe, more enforced now, 70+% never left the country overall

>go to college
Screws were being tightened over the years. Now less colleges provide "deferment" from service. Now colleges generally provide less positions, especially for non-technical positions. Also, during college if you use the "military class" you'll be automatically in reserve and ready for mobilization. If you don't do "military class", you're still on the hook for service until you're 28 (or did they up it to 30?), so after finishing college you're still not free.

>work in a "critical industry" e.g. as a programmer or a firearm designer
The "deferment" there is a willy-nilly type of deal. Today you have protection, tomorrow your own boss rats you out for mobilization.

>alternative civilian service (it's 2 years though so not a popular option)
Almost impossible to actually get it, it's not a "just choose this option" type of deal. Read up how much of a shitfest it is.

>bribe a doctor to say you have bone spurs or something
This was easy a decade ago, they're slowly tightening the screws. You can easily get a non-ideal "health class" and not get conscripted for regular mandatory service, but you're still eligible for mobilization.

>>64815298
>have we seen an amputee russian get droned or something?
Many times.
You've seen them too.

>>64812528
Either being raped by subhuman vatniggers or abused in some other form that usually involves breaking their wills, eradicating their identities and then indoctrinating them to place these abducted Ukrainian children in russian "families"
This is the kind of shit every single zigger in the west is carrying water for

>>64815330
>the powerful in Russia aren't sending their sons off to be enlisted men at an airbase outside Pisspoorgorod, Noonegivesafuck oblast
They get sent to Kursk where they pilot long-range drones.
Or that's where they used to go to earn participation trophies and come back a decorated war hero, blessed by Putin and ordained to carry the siloviki into the next generation.

Ukies bombed several of those oligarch daycare postings so they're probably a little less concentrated and a little further away now.
Combat medals matter though and if you're not a kadyrov then you need to show up a little to justify the award.
The medals matter because siloviki are supposed to be hard, ruthless men who will fuck you up if you cross them and aren't afraid of anything.
We know the truth of course but image matters a lot in face culture.

>>64815936
>Read up how much of a shitfest it is.
Sounds tasty, drop some sauces / keywords to start?

>>64815963
My favorite was that Russian charity proudly announcing that they were able to scrounge up enough money to buy a new pair of crutches for a soldier who had his blown up by a drone. Not only are they sending cripples out onto the battlefield multiple times, they're not even providing them crutches to waddle out there on.

>>64816080
1. Denials of "alternative service". You can find media describing cases where young men applied for this "alternative service" several times, but the draft board rejected them, and the applicants themselves subsequently became subjects of "military service evasion" cases. I.e., attempts to exercise their legal right raised suspicions of evasion and even the threat of criminal prosecution.

2. A long battle through the courts and numerous refusals. Forum 18 and other human rights organizations describe cases where individuals - often various religious fucks, such as baptists, have applied for alternative civil service multiple times, been denied, and were forced to go to court. Such cases drag on for years and can result in conscription into the army without alternative service.

3. Problems with enforcing the laws about access to alternative civil service. Although the RU constitution guarantees the right to "alternative service", legal mechanisms are poorly implemented in practice. This means there is no clear procedure for ensuring this right in practice, especially if the military commissariat objects.

4. It's difficult to get a referral due to the commissions' demands. Basically, by law a person must prove to the commissioners that their beliefs truly contradict military service. In practice, this is a complex, personal process: they must justify their reasons for refusing military service, gather documents, and testify before the commission. The commission could simply refuse, even if their beliefs are sincere.

Some links:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/10/03/conscientious-objection-rejected
https://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2954
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B1%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8

>>64816508
Thanks.
>https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B1%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8
Thanks for readable links, wikipedia.

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>>64816652
Modern browsers support unicode URLs.
On Firefox you have a setting that lets you copy full links without conversion, Googlejew doesn't.
But even without the setting (or Googlejew suppport), you can always just copy only a portion of the link so that it doesn't automatically change into ASCII-encoded blocks.
I went to the page, copied the link withou the first h and ctrl+v gives me:
>ttps://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aльтepнaтивнaя_гpaждaнcкaя_cлyжбa_в_Poccии
Add the final h and you're golden, the link will work on anything and show vodkarunes/moonrunes/dunerunes/whatever odd crap you can think of that unicode supports and someone made a viable link out of.
>https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aльтepнaтивнaя_гpaждaнcкaя_cлyжбa_в_Poccии

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>>64815034
>>64815879
thanks anons, you were right
>Horizon-stabilized roll scale / arc roll indicator
>fairly common variation in modern aircraft HUDs and some EFIS/PFD setups
>precise bank angle awareness without needing to interpret a full artificial horizon ball

to my shame i found something very similar in a screenshot and used a cropped version as the favicon for my osd-sim but didn't save the whole photo and later just assumed it was made up

>>64815936
>no money
we're talking about what rich people can do to evade service. and honestly some places that you might visit to evade the draft, such as georgia or armenia, have even lower col than russia
>tomorrow your own boss rats you out for mobilization.
they have literally no reason to do this if they wouldn't fire you. (you have to be really incompetent to get fired as a programmer)
on the other hand, you are right that this does make it more awkward to change jobs, if you lose mobilization protection when you leave your job. but there is a standard trick to avoid such problems: start your new job before resigning from your old one.
>Basically, by law a person must prove to the commissioners that their beliefs truly contradict military service.
if you say that military service contradicts your beliefs then the burden of proof is on them. they have to prove that it does NOT contradict your beliefs to draft you. if you do this, in practice they likely won't bother.
of course, few people do this because it means losing 2 years of your life and not just one.

>>64818440
correction: alternate civilian service is 21 months apparently, not quite 2 years. same point though