>>64821911
Are they buying it or are they just looking?

>>64821911
Why would they when they're a part of the F-35 program?

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>>64821933
Let me rephrase: Why has the KF-21 escaped public notice in the current Canadian debate about what fighter jet to buy? The Gripen is practically a household name now in Canada.

Because they aren't. It's not even listed on the KF-21 Wiki which is policed by VANKcopers.

>>64821943
I see articles about 6 months ago so it seems to have not unless there's something new happening.

>>64821937
Because KF doesn't have a kill switch, and South Korea doesn't want to annex Canada.

>>64821953
>killswitch meme
opinions disregarded

>>64821953
>killswitch
Which would be?

>>64821943
Because no one really takes the KF-21 seriously, even if it theoretically could fulfill the mission role, it's a brand-new fighter from a nation with little to no experience building 4.5th+ gen fighters.

Obviously it COULD end up being a decent jet that Canada is “missing” out on, but presently it would be an unproven gamble for Canada to go out on a limb and place an order for KF-21s. Before the KF-21 even officially enters South Korean service.

Also, the KF-21 still uses countless US components, so it's hardly fully divorced from the US either, whereas the Gripen at least theoretically COULD be re-engined with an EJ200 derivative.

>>64821943
Gripen is a package that guarantees Canadian jobs and AWACS while the K-21 isn't even developed yet.

How many years has canada said they were going to gget new fighter jets? LOL the real question is who will canada buy more used legacy hornets from?

>>64821943
Because Saab is offering large industrial benefits and Korea is not.

>>64823069
I thought SK usually offered great benefits?

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>KF-21
Not a serious aircraft.
>Canada
Not a serious country.

>>64823548
perfect match for Canada to start buying weaponry from thirdie shitholes

>>64821962
>>64821963
Economic & software update maimswitch, or price increase.
That would still be kind of a nuclear option for Trump (if he isn't as dumb as he acts) but you anon act as if he didn't openly and explicitly threaten withholding access to US product if you don't cave to his caprice.

>>64822097
They've already bought 16 f-35s that they can't go back on. Deliveries start next year I think.

>>64821953
>Killswitch engaged
>F35 becomes a HOLY DIVER

>>64821974
Your leading choice is a long running flop of a program from a nation with little to no success building 4.5+ gen fighters.

>>64823808
The leading choice is F-35 you dumb faggot cunt.

Ignore the media bullshit.

Canada has PAID for 16 jets and is on contract for dozens more, to get out of that contract they'd need to pay even MORE money.

>>64821911
Because it doesn't exist?

>>64821962
youre a fucking shit eating tamil retard
>durrrrrrrrrr its not a literal read button labled "kill switch" the US presses like Dr. evil! its not real! hurrrrrr

you people are insufferable
also, no one wants korean dogshit

>>64823819
Leading Choice in terms of retard politicians throwing a fit about the Orange Man, Anon.

What the hell is wrong with this captcha today, ffs.

>>64823615
>>64823826
>Economic & software update maimswitch, or price increase.
So why wouldn't the KF-21 be subject to the same thing? SK could just as easily withhold maintenance and software support from their customers. The only way around this concern is to develop and build a fully domestic aircraft.

>>64824262
Anon, you're missing the argument:

USA BAD

that's it.

>>64823615
>anon's idea of a killswitch is the equivalent of warranty ending
K

Does Canada even have pilots to fly jets? Isn't their military comically undermanned?

>>64824262
no they couldnt. korea's entire business model is that it does not come with the strings attached a US jet has.
it would be fundamentally idiotic for them to do that

>>64824279
>Does Canada even have pilots to fly jets? Isn't their military comically undermanned?
this is the real issue here^

>>64824398
>it would be fundamentally idiotic for them to do that
sorta like the US doing it, huh?
Lockheed wants people to keep buying their stuff too

>>64824398
you dont know what the flying fuck you are talking about? if you actaully think korea is making Free as in Freedom aircraft you are retarded
In no way, shape or form do they make a mordern militatry aircraft without proprietary software you fucking dunce, any aircraft will be tied to the engineering of that manufacturer -gps, engine mgnt cpu systems,radar, flight sys cpu- all running code you cannot have the source to - you are a fuck wit

>>64824279
We actually have more pilots then we have planes, and have stopped accepting recruitment for pilots because we have no way to train them, our shortages are largely in the Army and navy, not the airforce. End of the day there is never a shortage of people who want to be fighter pilots

>>64824402
>sorta like the US doing it, huh?
lmao, no

its a very easy and obvious way to maintain vassal allegience.
true "soft power"

>>64824479
i never said they did dipshit, merely that its marketed as some kind of 'alternative' with less geopolitical strings, i never said it was some turn-key blank slate w/blueprints included

>>64824792
>vassal
zigger begone

>>64821911
>more kf21 spam
Can we please stop all this spam? At least keep it to a single thread.

>>64824398
>it does not come with the strings attached a US jet has
The KF-21 is almost entirely made of US components and software.

>>64824262
Are you pretending to not understand the concept of balance of power and mutual interest?
The ideal is to develop a domestic aircraft, sure, but can you afford it and will it be any good?
Most of those deals are political, we know they'll buy crappy stuff just in the hope the sellers feel like they have to support you or lose a client. At least until you meet a manchild who think he is running a protection mafia.

>>64824276
>warranty end
>equipment instantly become crap
Would not buy again

>>64823529
They're doing so for the subs (car factories and steel mills) but not for the jets.
Gooks also usually import gooks for all the cushy high-paying jobs and will probably staff the rest with jeets to cut costs so it's questionable how good of a deal it actually is.

>>64821962
Afaik you can only make use of a lot of the F35s advanced features if you upload missing planning data and maps into the jet, and to do that you have to go through Lockeed's servers.

Not sure if this is still the case, I read an article where some countries complained about this.

>>64826681
Yeah what we really need is another "what's your favorite semi automatic pistol" thread, there's not enough of those

>>64831346
>complaining about guns threads on /k/
>defending VANK spam that isn't meant to discuss anything, only overt shilling the same way chinkshills keep making j36 threads
fuck off back to bilibili or whatever bugman boards you have in bugland.

>>64821953
>kill switch
This forced meme is how I know beyond all doubt that the F35 is the most lethal airframe and platform in the world, and that thirdies and chinks are shitting and pissing their pants at the idea of everyone they want to exploit having them.

Sowing this sort of FUD is only worth doing if the F35 represents a genuine threat.

>>64831414
>everyone who disagrees with me is (country I don't like)
I accept your concession

>>64831555
>if you don't like VANK spam/flooding that is paid by the WK government then it means I win
Cool?

>>64826682
>The KF-21 is almost entirely made of US components and software.

well...
then like the gripen, it will get kill-switched if someone thinks they are going to do something with geopolitical consequences the US doesnt like

sounds like the J10c is the best bet for any nation who wants 'freedom' with their export-model purchases

>>64832242
The US is going to block the sale in the first place. IF someone even wants to buy it LMAO

>>64823808
Koreans only manage to dress up trainers and pretend that they are real fighters.