>>64823129
How are those essential?

>>64823130
hello sirs

>>64823130
your shit has bacteria that can make you sick or kill you, and in a trench there's no toilet or toilet paper, so you need something to wipe your ass to avoid illness

>>64823177
Well yeah, but if toilet paper is an option why would you use a tiny 24 pack of wet wipes? Toilet paper would be more essential then those things.

>>64823200
there are no showers in trenches. Enjoy your swamp ass

>>64823177
>in a trench there's no toilet
Yes there is. These wipes dont solve the problem even if there wasn't one

>>64823200
use a wet wipe after you've wiped with toilet paper. you'll be surprised by how much brown there is. kinda like how you wipe soda off a table and it looks clean, but it's still sticky, which means you didn't clean it completely.

>>64823206
>Yes there is
a shallow hole that will fill up with water and spread illnesses even faster is not a proper toilet. And the problem remains: you have shit on you.

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>>64823200
TP has no disinfectant.
Saturate the wipses with mild isopropyl alcohol or hydrogen peroxide.

>>64823206
Okay but making sure your own hands aren't a biohazard suicide bomb gives you a hell of a lot more time to solve the toilet problem.

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>>64823129
Weight first an foremost with a side of economics. Its heavier to ship compared to the billions of rolls of TP the military already has stockpiled. Honestly washing your hands is more important than washing your ass, wiping 90% of shit off yourself and leaving a thin layer of it isn't going to actually hurt you unless you have open wounds or sores on your ass, in which case even your sweat, dirt, contaminated water etc can fuck you up. Keeping dry is more important than keeping clean, and keeping the parts of your body that are going to facilitate you ingesting food is paramount. Can't speak for other branches but officially the army uses bars of soap for the same reason, saves weight, all the little hand wash stations overseas with the foam dispensers are actually a pretty big luxury that I don't think would stick around in a true maneuvering war.

Economics side of thing, cheap, AND it's a pretty solid psychological creature comfort. Look at the people in this thread, I don't blame you, I'm the same way, I want my ass super clean and the thought of shit particles stuck to me until my next shower disgusts me, so I go to the PX and buy wet wipes, puts money back into the system, gets people paid.

Worth mentioning all MREs come with a small pack of TP and moist towelettes, save these, these become gold, when you need to wipe, wipe with the TP and finish with the wet wipe, if it's not perfect, move on, don't waste so many that you can't get your hands clean, eater clean is better than shitting clean.

Oh and if you're stuck in a trench, shit into a container and pitch it when you can, no amount of wet wipes is going to save you from standing in a makeshift sewer.

>>64823129
Wet moss is optimal for wiping your ass.

>>64823232
What if its dry? Would I need to cum on it and eat it?

>>64823221
>so I go to the PX and buy wet wipes
That's the point. It's shit that everyone buys on their own. It'd be more efficient for supply to just issue packs of wet wipes.

>>64823241
Logistics to a built up area that can have a PX is different than logistics to an active combat front during a real war.

>>64823236
What? What kind of insane question is this? You can't wipe your ass with it if you eat it.

>>64823266
He's being fuuuunny!

>>64823266
It would clean your shithole when you shit it out, It would also be moisturized by your digestion system

>>64823129
Honestly yeah and these are pretty good for cleaning stuff in general.

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>it turns out in war you lose various modern conveniences, including proadaptive ones like basic hygiene and running clean water and toilets
Wow, ack ack ack ack, who came up with war? Fucking retarded game.

>>64823302
You are not very intelligent

>>64823302
Meanwhile for some like yourself they never had that in the first place.

Jesus christ
Yes, you need a latrine if you are going to stay somewhere for more than a day. A squad has 12 guys producing a lot of shit and even animals make sure it's not where they eat and live. Yes, you should probably have toilet paper because it's fucking nasty without, wet wipes are nice but not mandatory but you will need to wash your ass at some point. Desinfectant hand wipes are much more essential if soap and water are in short supply than making sure your ass is spotless, and those are usually provided with MREs (depending on the country).

>>64823129
Stop buying the oversized wipes.

>>64823423
>oversized
how tiny is your butthole?

>>64823129
can't we make TP that you can wad up and use as an accellerant or explosive?

>>64823266
right you never licked a girl's butthole, sure

>>64823129
>Incapable of doing anything without handouts

>>64823130
>>64823200
Imagine being on /k/ and not knowing wet wipes are a must have when in the field

>>64823923
Most of anons here never leave their basements, no suprise there

In Europe these are included in MRE.

>>64824591
>europe is a single country that has only one kind of an mre

>>64823200
t. never wiped his ass with a baby wipe

>>64823207
>use a wet wipe after you've wiped with toilet paper. you'll be surprised by how much brown there is
This. People should just wipe poo on thier forearm and clean it with TP. The give it a sniff test to see how well TP works. You degenerates can do this at home. Sick freaks.

>>64823200
Go camping for a few days and it'll be obvious.

>>64823129
those aren't diapers OP

>>64824704
Do you mean leave the apartment? Fucking nutzo!

>>64823449
Nitrocellulose TP...
better yet, make them wet wipes so they only light when dry

>>64824691
wtf

>>64824591
You could've read the rest of the thread, let alone read up or watched some videos on the subject matter before making this post to realize that MREs come with moist towelettes as well, for the purpose of hand sanitization, as is the same for most rations around the world. Maybe I'm just ignorant and you're welcome to enlighten me but I don't know of any that come with wet wipes for the purpose of wiping your ass.

>>64823221
Anon people chaff and get sores on their ass plenty in the military. Keeping dry is ideal, and prevents the vast majority of problems, but it's not always possible. I'd rather spend that little extra weight on extra disinfectant wipes to keep troops fit and slightly more comfortable.

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Do we tell Americans about this?
Part of me doesn't want to. They seem to enjoy suffering in their ignorance. They seem to enjoy spending more money doing an inferior job with single use wet towels.

>>64824766
This is not the /ak/ thread.

>>64825327
Shut up about your douche, douche

>>64825327
>takes a long time before weight savings break even
>takes longer for bulk savings to break even
>requires a considerable amount of water
>still requires TP to dry yourself
>requires good cleaning
wet wipes are inherently superior, especially in cases where water is a limited resource

>>64824766
You ever had the displeasure of changing a baby's diapers?

>>64823129
8520-01-587-1740
Towelette, Skin Cleansing

Case of 15 packages. 80 wipes per package.

Hard part will be convincing your supply nigger to order them for you.

>>64825379
>The item does not have a nuclear hardened feature
This is unacceptable, our military is wholly unprepared for nuclear war. I need my nuclear hardened, heavy metal removing, chemical weapon de-activating wet wipes. This is an issue of strateg...
>SCENTED; ALOE TOUCH
hmmm they'll have to do

>>64823232
Enjoy tardigrades in your butthole.

>>64823129
> wiping your ass
Humans never evolved to wipe their ass, it's unnatural.
>b-but, it stinks
It only stinks because jews convinced you humans are supposed to smell like chemicals, in India we get used to the natural human smell

>>64825506
But they're so cute!

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>>64825592
Silence, turd worlder. The humans are talking

>>64825592
BO, shit, and absurd amounts of spices are not "natural human smell" Sanjay.

>>64825592
..your nose can't pick up the smell of shit?

>>64823221
Big soap doesn't want you to know this but foaming hand soap dispensers can be refilled with watered down normal liquid hand soap.

>>64824691
>>64824858
There is a point being made, and it's why toilet paper is inadequate for wiping your ass. Bidets are the answer because people are retards and cannot not flush babywipes down the toilet and clog pipes. Toilet paper is specifically designed to "fall apart" when soaked in water and flushed. And for those that say what about "flushable wipes"? Thats a marketing gimmick that's bullshit as they do not fall apart during the flush cycle and then proceed to clog pipes. Plumbers love to overcharge people to unclog that shit because it's either an easy fix or you're paying him to rip up half your house/floors to get to the pipe. Also the garbage disposal is a marketing term as well, do not try to dispose of half a roast that way, god my coworkers were retards.

>>64823923
if you aren't shitting in your pants, you aren't really in the field but on a camping trip

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>>64823129
The loitering munition .... is the 21st Century equivalent of the mortar.

Soon, it will be as natural for us to see the loitering munition platoon as an integral part of an infantry company in the same way that the organic mortar or ATGM platoon is. In fact, the loitering munition will eventually be able to replace both.

In time, instead of a grenade launcher, every rifleman may even handcarry a packed FPV drone which can be used to drop explosives on the heads of the enemy. Signallers will not need to carry a sognal set or anntenae, a loitering UAV overhead will be able to function as a aerial rebro station. Forward air controllers will be obsolete as the UAV takes over. Commanders will not need a GPS, compass or binoculars, the UAV offers unlimited and unhindered line of sight as a navigation aid. UAVs will be able to carry out resupply missions by delivering ammunition, rations, and medical supplies to isolated units.

Eventually ..... we may not even need to carry toilet paper into the field. The UAV will wipe our asses and act as a flying bidet

>>64826492
0/10, no uses of the words "modular", "agile", "interoperable", "warfighter", etc.

>>64823302
>in a different timeline DSP would be an officer and get fragged because of colossal mismanagement, failures, and stealing from/begging his own men for stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aVqP49d06s

>>64826492
FPV ona holes

>>64824858
you never got a bit of shit on your hand?

>>64824898
That's cool, the military would rather just put more bullets on the aircraft that's transporting actual essentials to the front.

>>64826674
>implying officer DSP wouldn't survive multiple fragging attempts against all odds and somehow getting a promotion

>>64827853
The Joint Chiefs of Staff are detractors

>>64823177
I went three months outside the wire on our longest rotation out of the FOB, then we did two weeks out, three days back. I never once used a wet wipe. Just wipe your ass with the TP they give you in MREs. You'll be alright.

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>>64827953
MRE doesn't have nearly enough TP. Wet wipes can be used to wash hands too.

I once made extra strong coffee with river water that wasn't sufficiently boiled. I was spraying shit water out of my ass every 3 min. No way that tp would be acceptable in that situation.

I HAD TO STICK A COTTON BANDAGE IN MY ASSHOLE SO I WOULDN'T SHIT MYSELF.

So no, MRE tp isn't sufficent.
Picrel.

>>64831395
>I once made extra strong coffee with river water that wasn't sufficiently boiled.
Okay...so don't do that you literal retard. MRE toilet paper is fine if you're not niggerbrained.

>>64831395
>I HAD TO STICK A COTTON BANDAGE IN MY ASSHOLE SO I WOULDN'T SHIT MYSELF.
pics or didnt happen

>>64831421
yeah its enough til you run out cause they give you 5 sheets and need to wipe your ass with moss and pine cones

When are you pimple-faced noobs gonna listen to your NCOs? Put a roll of TP in a fucking ziplock and stash it in your ruck EVERY TIME you go the field. ffs

>>64823129
Sweaty nuts

>>64823923
If I caught anybody in my stick carrying that shit, they'd get burnt a new asshole.

>>64831686
>you can only use the TP in one MRE and have to discard the rest from all the other MREs

You have no experience with the military at all.

>>64832016
Reading comprehension 0. I said that MRE doesn't provide enough to satisfy the primary requirement. Obviously everyone has their baby wipes or spare roll.

>>64833229
Reading comprehension 0.
I'm saying you can fucking collect TP from multiple MREs. Your niggerbrain is showing again, imagine being 45 years old and still having object impermanence.

>>64823177
>>64823219
>>64824691
Layer two pieces of tp, fold them over and get them lightly wet. There, you have an in the field wet wipe. You need to use it as a finisher though since the structural integrity is subpar, leave the main course for regular dry tp.

I'm not military at all so I have no idea, but wouldn't it make more sense to ship disposable dry wipes since they're lighter than wet wipes and pack down smaller than TP? They're also basically just cotton cloths you can use to clean or filter anything.
Or is drinking water too valuable to waste on wipes.

>>64834176
>Yeah let me rip open and contaminate our one food source in the field with my shit-covered hands to get another 5 sheets of tp

That’s what you sound like.

>>64823177
Now that has to be bullshit (pun intended). We're having a grand scale WW1 LARP going on for how long exactly? 4 years already? Five?
And all those entrenched troglodytes _should_ be dying of cholera en mass yet there are NO REPORTS of it whatsoever.
No videos, no articles, no propaganda pieces, no ironic VK posts, no moai posting...
Poo bacteria is not as dangerous as this poster's trying to make it be, else the DoW _would_ provide the grunt with wet wipes, simple as.

>>64834426
>else the DoW _would_ provide the grunt with wet wipes
But they can and do if your supply nigger bothers to order it

>>64834426
Dawg there is an entire weeklong field sanitation class with four months worth of reading material available about the subject on armypubs right now

>>64826492
unless you're the guy entrenched getting hit by arty. then depends is still dependable

>>64834305
>Incapable of even comprehending the possibility of collecting P of tp before shitting
Honestly how do you manage to open doors and cross traffic and stuff, do you have a literal retard handler?

>>64823130
This dude not only has never been in combat, he hasn't even been camping

>>64834305
Save TP BEFOREHAND you absolute fucking moron. Also have you even fucking opened an MRE? Every item is individually wrapped you fucking straight up nigger lol.

>>64834426
I recall seeing several articles about diseases breaking out amongst the Russian troops, including cholera.

>>64834426
troop concentration on the frontline is much lower than it was during ww1. this alone helps to prevent large scale outbreaks.

Winters in Russia and Ukraine will be tough on bacteria. Disease outbreaks were severe during the Crimean War, but the climate there is much milder.

>>64823129
Those clog shitters, anon.
I just used them to cum in