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Remember when people thought the russian army was a credible threat? How would this game work today?
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No? People criticized the invasion of Washington as implausible on release. If you believed it as an idiot child, then that's fine. If it took the invasion of Ukraine for you to realize that the whole Russian air force flying over all of Europe and the Atlantic with nobody noticing was unrealistic, then that's not fine and you should not advertise even anonymously that you're that much of a fucking retard.
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>>64823424
>russia having the manpower and logistics to drop two divisions deep into american soil complete with mechanized ground vehicles, helicopters and air support
>and repeating said feat in europe assumingly having left their forces in america to be completely annihilated
Yeah I don't thing the Mission Impossible plot device is the thing most people have an issue with.
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>>64823309
I wonder how much Western media made by dorks contributed to reinforcing the meme that Russia is strong
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>>64823309
Exactly the same, because the people who pay attention to the war are a tiny proportion of the public and news media still hype up Russia as a competent military threat. Also people simply don't care, it's a game not a documentary.
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>>64823986
No the next COD will probably be about North Korea or special ops incursions into Tibet.
There's already been two games where we team up with China (BO2, BO3), several games where we fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, BO1 where we fight in Cuba, Europe and America (MW1, MW2, MW3, Ghosts), South America (Ghosts, AW), Space (IW, Ghosts), China will be the enemy in the new games soon.
If the old "stronk Russian enemy" plot device gets used again it's not going to sell since COD is already in the shitter for two years in a row.
BF4 made us fight China 11 years ago and it was pure kino.
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>>64824049
Yeah that was retarded but the game itself was pretty good. Filled with hackers now like the rest of the franchise unfortunately.
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>>64824049
There's a mission depicting a highway of destroyed retreating Iraqi convoys. it implies the russians did this and you have to snipe them from a far before a friendly airstrike flattens the highway again. The mission is quite literally titled "highway of death". keep in mind the us army has oversight on all of these games. zigs freaked tf out but it was actually justified this time. The funniest part is that the highway of death wasn't even a war crime. they could have just not brought it up and been fine but the bbc and polygon had big articles about it. still a good game but they fucked it up with the sequels
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>>64824097
>Only russia
Not really, because there was mainstream media coverage from the first world about it.
You see, in 2019 when we weren't fighting Russia it's a social faux-pax to attribute US warcrimes to Russia.
But in current day, a piece of pre-war media made by an American video game studio attributing a warcrime so horrible that it ended Desert Storm the next day to Russia is actually just a propaganda psyop by Russia to get their people agitated against America.
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>>64823309
I don't have a clue what you zoomers are talking about itt, but your next big vidya in 2045 will probably be about mexo-amerimuttoids jumping over Paris to save arabo-frenchoids from their brown islamic overlords, with Keltec ARs in 6.5 sneedmore versus rusted butching knives.
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>Putin took this from you
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>>64824136
Russia is thin skinned but at the time there was concern about Activision re-writing US warcrimes as never happening.
It would be very based if the writers wrote the story accurate to real life, but they didn't. They had to sneak and hide the truth like rats because they saw it as a predictive programming opportunity.
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>>64824000
>the best mission they had in years was a simple raid on some london terror cell
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>>64824208
Modern cartdriges have Oxidizers already inside
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>>64823309
don't forget that the Russians invade from the EAST cost BWAHAHA MY SIDES
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>>64824043
But there is nuance.
The game devs were aware of places in Syria dubbed "road of death" or "street of death" because if civilians tried to cross the pro-Assad forces would kill them, or aid couldn't be moved through because of ceasefires breaking and convoys getting attacked as a result.
So they decided to use "highway of death" as free marketing. People are talking about it to this day.
The attacks on humanitarian convoys in Ukraine completely vindicates the MW reboot. What was supposed to be cartoonishly evil is actually common Rusnigger behavior.
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>>64824152
Confirmed retard.
The original "highway of death" was not a war crime. And the highway of death in MW has nothing to do with engaging enemies who refuse to surrender past the deadline. It's inspired by actual events in Syria, which have been confirmed to be Russian MO in Ukraine.
You're getting hung up on the name "highway of death" and not understanding the outrage bait. Nobody pinned a "US war crime" on Russia. In the game the fictional Russia committed a war crime that has nothing to do with the 1991 Iraq War but is inspired by real events in Syria. They just named it in a way that would make people think about an American engagement.
Activision shoved its arm elbow deep into retards like you and used you as puppets to promote their game by making you whine about CoD. MW2 had No Russian. MW3 had a child get fucking gassed in Paris during a cutscene for shock value. For fuck's sake EA hired actors to stage a Christian protest against Dante's Inferno to promote the game. And they announced they'd add the Taliban as a playable faction in the Medal of Honor reboot only to walk it back after the controversy. This is marketing and you fell for it.
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>>64824076
>I still play Titanfall 2.
>>64824085
>on ps4
I see you /fast guy/
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>>64824736
>mfw Russia invades via the Mexican border
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>>64824234
Even with all their futuristic bs and augmented movement AW and IW feel more CoD than the nu ones. They honestly don't feel like CoD at all. Then there's also the visual clarity, which is simply not existent in nu-CoD. And no, its not because I'm getting old because I don't have that problem in other fast paced games.
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>>64825192
Amazing people know almost nothing on Gulf War 1 beyond the most broad overview. If we invaded from the coast, Saddam would pull back to the cities and deserts in Iraq and make it a brutal urban fight the public would not be able to stomach. The entire point of moving so many units between Kuwait and the larger cities in Iraq was to make that impossible. Those weren't civilians, they weren't surrendering soldiers, they were soldiers fleeing/attempting to regroup behind safe lines and garrison Iraqi locations. Absolutely fair fucking game.
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>>64823309
>Coronal Mass Ejection
>Neutron First Strikes
>Dirty Tactical Nukes in Western cities (blamed on Middle Easterners, actually Russians)
>Helter Skelter pre-positioned ghouls, Russian, Chinese, Cuban,
>Pole Shift precipitating significant enough ocean current alteration to tank crop yields (Russians moving on Europe and Central Asia, butting heads with Chinese going toward India)
>Bioweapon releases in Africa, major front for agricultural and mineral output
>Rogue AI trying to do any of the above with a General Killgore from Dr. Strangeglove type faction (mixed with Collins Elite, viz. "ayys are literal demons').
>Abrahamic countries attempted end times bootstrapping bullshit in tandem with the above (like that one Mission Impossible)
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>>64823485
IIRC they reabsorbed Belarus and Ukraine and then conscripted anyone who could walk.
Those VDV guys you're slaughtering in "wolverines" are 16yo conscripts
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>>64824124
You're a third world ape
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>>64823986
Absolutely not.
I'm guessing EU invasion of mainland US. The commies take over the whole east coast before they get beaten back with the help of Russia, China, and India. Just when it seems like it's finally over a German superweapon is revealed to act as a cliffhanger.
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>>64823309
>Remember when people thought the russian army was a credible threat?
I never thought that, all the russia fear mongering came from boomers who have childhood trauma from the cold war
Russia hasnt been a threat to the USA in our lifetime
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America got invaded in MW3 because a high ranking corrupt and bitter general paved the way to let them in all because he lost 35k men in a nuclear strike in the first MW and the world just fucking watched.
The unbelievable part is Russia invading across 2 fronts, reached Paris and burned Washington DC to the ground.
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>>64830516
>because a high ranking corrupt and bitter general paved the way to let them in all
even then, the russian military couldn't even get through ukraine (on their own border) without their logistics imploding
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>>64823316
The retard is you.
The premise of MW2 was that the USA discredited themselves internationally by being involved in the (doubly false flagged) airport massacre. The entire Russian Air Force in that FICTIONAL story got through because the USA was politically isolated, internationally hated, and the Russians copied the security ciphers for the new-fangled fully-automated early warning system. For all we know, in MW2's setting, the Russians could have nuked the USA without early warning systems ever triggering.
>inb4 USA international isolation is bullshit
The game's story was written at the height of US failure in the Middle East. I'm going to remind horseblinder-wearing zogbots and teach clueless zoomers: it wasn't 2004 anymore when bombing towelheads was still cool because of 9/11, MW2 was released 2009, the story was written 2007-2009, at the end of Bush and the dawn of Obama, when the USA was becoming notorious for killing civilians. The famed wedding drone strike happened in 2008.
The game isn't pro-Russian, it's anti-imperialist and anti-American. Get it right.
MW3 then hard-corrected and retconned the story and suddenly America had European allies that needed helping from a general all-out Russian invasion - this wasn't on the table in MW2.
>inb4 it's still stupid that NATO would abandon the USA over what may have been a rogue agent
You missed the point of the pre-retcon MW2 story, then.
It was a set-up by Gen. Shepherd, who wanted America to be invaded. He purposefully mismanaged the entire sequence from the satellite mission, through the massacre, to the "hunt" for Makarov. The whole time, he was trying to get 141 killed by Makarov (and then did it himself) because they were witnesses and Price was close to connecting the dots.
The message was anti-imperialist, since big bad Shepherd believed Americans would only ever become 1945-patriotic again if they got bombed on their own soil. He *knew* Makarov would be "one step ahead"
MW2 = lefty slop
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>Remember when people thought the russian army was a credible threat?
To Europe, yes. Not America. It's as ridiculous as North Korea invading America.
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>>64830791
NTA
Its /ourleftyslop/ doe.
Although I've argued tremendously on the seriousness of fictional stories ITT I have to concede that COD's story lines are not to be taken seriously.
Activision however, IS advised by real life US generals and military analysts/advisors on their storylines.
So the idea that they are "predictive programming" the audience in a sense does hold true. In COD Ghosts they literally capture Maduro in Caracas. The scorestreaks in BO2/3/4/6/7 were mostly unmanned drones alluding to the dominance of drones on the battlefield today.
>>64830815
Do you even remember what Bush America was like? I do. Green Day - Holiday calling Bush Oil Hitler was echoing the opinion of the retard normie hivemind.
Political activism was much more diluted back then but anyone with a brain noticed that GWOT was a sham for something else.
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>overblown sensationalized
Nope, the outrage over GWOT was definitely real.
GWOT was never cool post 2002. The normies were simply willing to overlook it during Obama and Biden because there were millions of other psyops going on.
Both can be true at the same time without GWOT approval being a partisan issue. Especially since both sides unanimously agreed to continuing the wars.
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>>64830791
you're a retarded poltroon shitskin no guns, the whole falseflag shit was to incite 'le ultranationalists' in ziggeria into wanting to fight the US and a greater plot by Shepard to get the US and ruzzia into war for whatever fucked up reason. the US literally gets helped by an international task force and there is at no point a time skip big enough for the US to get politically 'isolated'
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>>64830964
>Nope, the outrage over GWOT was definitely real.
Yeah, because they media over blew it.
>GWOT was never cool post 2002.
There was a sudden patriotism from actors and musicians when Obama came in office, and supporting the troops became the norm.
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Checked. Sheetskeens btfo'd
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>>64830994
not on /pol/, deranged shitskin, your bullcrap doesn't work here, the entirety of the white world, and even some of the more developed non-white world, was bombing towelheads alongside the US right up there until the end. my imperialism = based and redpilled your imperialism = you will get ATACMS'd
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141 had commandos sourced internationally, but not with international backing; as soon as Shepherd labeled the Brits in 141 as most wanted fugitives, they had to join in with the 3rd world underground and unnamed special interest groups.
To quote "Ghost", a non-American in 141, existing only in MW2 and not living long enough to see MW3 (which restored NATO as American allies), "looks like we're all out of friends" - with the invasion of the USA just starting and US forces being unable to do anything, the British literally left formerly British commandoes of the 141 high and dry in Brazil. The moment America got discredited at the airport, the Brits in 141 got thrown overboard like mercenaries that go serve a foreign power.
You as the player weren't evacuated from Rio by America or any American ally, but by a member of the Modern Warfare equivalent of the Black Hand.
In MW2, the USA got instantly isolated after the airport massacre, and the Russians made it into America over Greenland because
1) the Russians breached the security of the early warning system and signaled a false attack from the West Coast
2) former US allies were literally reluctant to warn the Americans about the entire VDV flying right at them over international waters to the east of Canada
As for the "why" of the No Russian massacre immediately sparking war instead of a diplomatic row, that was Shepherd's meddling. That's why 141 had to die in Central Asia, they were there to see it was fumbled and they could soon figure out it was "fumbled" deliberately.
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>>64830988
>>Nope, the outrage over GWOT was definitely real.
>Yeah, because they media over blew it.
Both can be true.
>>GWOT was never cool post 2002.
>There was a sudden patriotism from actors and musicians when Obama came in office, and supporting the troops became the norm.
Both can be true.
All of this can be true because both sides agreed to start and prolong GWOT.
The anti-war messaging 2001 was not much driven by the media, the media is just an arm of the government that manufactures consent. News stations, radio, etc were all effectively in favor of retaliation to the middle east boogeymen. Don't believe me, look up articles, speeches and interviews from 2001-2004 about the aftermath of 9/11 and public support for GWOT.
2008 and beyond the anti-war messaging to the public was largely disseminated from the lower enlisted who served.
The real problem is, you are unable to discern what the social climate of the world was back then from what the world currently is right now. You are only willing to see certain events that reinforce your views and not the objective reality.
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Uhh or maybe GWOT was just a pointless endeavor that lined the pockets of the US MIC? The smoke and mirrors have dropped already for 2 decades on this topic. Why are you pretending like what I'm saying is some secret Ruskie Glowie Psyop tactic?
It isn't a secret anymore that Israel stood to benefit the most from GWOT, even the most dipshit normie retards understand this pill. Only you don't because you're too attached to Ukraine to realize that not every event in history revolves around Ukraine.
>bombing towelheads
They were blowing us up too and veteran suicides still outpace the total GWOT casualties to this day because GWOT was utterly pointless.
Please ask any vet that was deployed or involved in Afghanistan or Iraq 2001-2021 about the purpose of GWOT.
Not one soldier wished GWOT would keep going except deployment dodgers and neverserved, mentally ill faggot.
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>>64831009
Imperialism is only Imperialism when you win the war and colonize the land.
We fucking lost GWOT, killed millions, got shit tons of service members killed and scarred for life and for what? Sport?
Fuck you.
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>>64831170
I don't disagree with you that the media exaggerated like they always do, I just disagree that the news media and celebrities are the only gauge for public opinion.
That's like saying most people now agree with celebrities who won Grammys speaking badly about ICE operations now. It's just not the whole story.
I remember when Obama said he was pledging to deploy 50,000 more troops to the middle east and the public outrage (non MSM) was enormous over that.
So your memory that Obama was purely only loved and that war was only seen as cool during Democrat rule is not fully true either.
A lot of people took issue with the story that Obama authorized drone strikes on schools and hospitals that the talifucks were in too.
GWOT as a whole was a shitshow of epic proportions and no amount of rose tinted glasses on the topic will diminish that.
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>50,000
30,000* sorry.
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>>64831238
Ah you got me! It's over. I got checkmated. I lost.
All of my other points are now moot. Time for the topic to die.
I posted something you don't understand so I guess I'm just a glownigger foreign agent FSB ruskie after all, time to put on my ushanka and tell my Sergeant it's time to rape my asshole with a bed post.
/thread
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>>64831258
Because the news media and hollywood are an arm of the federal government and used to manufacture consent. They are controlling not just the debate but the topic and tempo of the debate.
The truth is that the opinion of the masses is always going to be ignored in favor of the loudest and strongest minority voice.
That voice then in-turn, becomes the historical opinion of the time even though it's not the actual opinion held by the masses.
Just because that is what you are choosing to focus on, does not discount the other details.
Do you copy?
>>64831278
He isn't me, he started with NTA. If you don't understand that then you shouldn't be posting here.
>>64831280
No, you. Stop being lazy.
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>>64823316
Don't forget the Washington is almost difficult to pull of due to America's location and pretty much every citizen or most have access to guns also if they go on both sides to get to Washington they have to deal with fucking tornadoes and the desert along with the mountains
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>>64830344
>I'm guessing EU invasion of mainland US.
You'd be right if they were still trying to make cool things, but considering the last game involved fighting giant AI hallucinations I think it will be more along the lines of fighting quirky dems/trump voters and their imagined delusions (who you'll be fighting will depend on the media landscape at the time of post-production)
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>whataboutism
You're brown.
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>>64824124
Why do I have the feeling you watch Hasan streams?
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>>64830335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_h9XY7XMno
Yeah lol they made up a group supposedly called Salvation Against Virtual Eternal Damnation (SAVED) and the main guy breaks character laughing at the stupid shit he has to make up on the spot.
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>>64830593
>Most marketing doesnt happen after the game releases.
The WP controversy happened in August 2019 with release set for October: https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/02/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-de veloper-addresses-white-phosphorus- controversy
The Highway of Death controversy happened right after release, because Russians played that part and review bombed the game as retaliation. Total engagement bait.
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>>64825192
I still have a lot of issues with the MW reboot but I've had to concede over the years that yeah, no, the comically evil Russians seemingly getting off on abusing civilians are more accurate than I ever gave them credit for.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homefront_(video_game)#Development
>The antagonists in Homefront were originally intended to be the People's Republic of China, but were later replaced by a unified Korea for two reasons: the risk of a possible backlash by the Chinese Ministry of Culture and the reality of economic interdependence between America and China that made the Chinese "not that scary," according to Tae Kim, a former CIA field agent and consultant on the game's backstory.
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What does your ideal CoD campaign look like, /k/?
>Black Ops interquel set during the early 2000s to capitalize on Y2K nostalgia.
>First mission takes place on 9/11. Use the inevitable controversy as part of the marketing.
>Most of the action takes place in Iraq and Afghanistan, taking out HVTs. Have a room-clearing mission to rival Clean House.
>Obligatory Saddam and Dubya cameos.
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>Muh drones who could have seen drone war coming?
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>>64832156
The last MoH had a bunch of bin-laden raid inspired shit, including a dlc of multiplayer maps set in zero dark 30s version of the raid, but I dont recall anything explicitly referencing it in the campaign, though you do play the rescue of captain phillips.
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>>64823309
Chechens are Russians. Ukrainians are Russians. They're fighting themselves.
Steel might not bite through steel, but it will sharpen it. And it will slice through western pigs.
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>>64823986
what makes you think that? there have been 4 cod since the 2022 invasion and we got nu-mw2 (le mercenaries) nu-mw3 (le russian mercenaries) blops 6 (glowies) blops 7 (le future mercenaries).
besides they lost their balls by setting parts of their games in fictional countries like when they went to not-ukraine for one mission.
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>>64831813
>Electronic Anti-Christ
This is like one of those schizo-theories where the elite jewish lizard people drop hints about how they're going to harvest everyone's organs in dollar bills and municipal architecture.
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>>64824124
>a warcrime so horrible that it ended Desert Storm the next day
>Desert storm stopped because of le hecking horrible war crime and not because Iraqi troops got mauled in Kuwait and then the Republican guard elements retreating got torn up; as destroying the Republican guard was a day one, explicit objective of the gulf campaign.
Retard
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>>64823316
when I played mw3 I thought russia had nuclear sumarines that could travel to the US coast line.
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>>64830791
Holy shit you're retarded.
>was politically isolated, internationally hated, and the Russians copied the security ciphers for the new-fangled fully-automated early warning system.
Non of that would allow the russian to invade the USA. Do you really think there would be only a single security measure and that the password to it wouldn't be changed weeks after it was captured? Or that there wouldn't be normal radar? Even just getting the troops close to the USA would be noticed well in advance. The story never made any sense.
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>>64832845
>Ukrainians are Russians.
Ukranians don't see it that way you kremlin piss skulled spastic
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>>64825353
It's nice to still see some of you in the wild
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>>64831871
This. Makarov (except from the nu-MW3) is too smart to be a Russian. The comically evil Russian with a gas mask and filthy language you kill as young Farah is unironically the best depiction you could ever get of a Russian soldier/commander
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>>64832612
>Frontlines Fuel of War
>tfw you remember the singleplayer campaign had press ganged russian civilians running around with guns in the last missions.
That shit fucking slapped. I have so many fun memories of playing the multiplayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXnOsuRdi1o