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>>64824255
I smell pussy.

>>64824255
>hey babe, i heard you like big swords
*unzips*

>>64824255
Is there a version of 'weeb' when its china rather than japan?

>>64824284
yes, it's called fifth columnist pinko traitor, or necktiers for short.

>>64824284
>>64824288
They're called Sinophiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinophile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinoiserie

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>>64824292
I call em bug chasers

It's a sword. That's like asking thoughts on a spatha, or zweihander.
>but sooper sekrit acient chyna numbah wan martial arts!
Nobody give a shit anymore, sword construction and techniques haven't been relevant to the battlefield for nearly four hundred years at this point.

>>64824255
Dancing is not martial arts

>chinese
Still weeb trash

>>64824284
Qiaboo

>>64824362
You can't even dance

>>64824387
No but I can throw a punch unlike chinese martial artists

>>64824284
commie

>butthurt chinkshill is at it again
Grim

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>>64824255
I like the dadao instead.

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>>64824255
That’s very cool from a choreography and athletics perspective. Don’t know how useful for fighting it is. At least she’s in shape.

>>64824284
Wumao?
Little pink?

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>>64824259
The last guy remaining is a political appointee responsible for more ideological aspects, there's no professional military member on the commission now

>>64824597
AAAAAHHH WHY IS SHE MAKING THE TINY DICK GESTURE AAAAAHH YOU BITCH!!!!!

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>>64824624
Why would you be offended by that?

>>64824624
That was the finger heart symbol retard

>>64824624
>>64824650
Lmao

Chinese martial arts are all strictly performative

>>64824284
canniboo

>>64824255
I prefer the miso hohni

>>64824650
Usually. But from her to him, he got the correct translation.

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>>64824751
>miso hohni

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>>64824255
Chink lovers get the rope

>>64825219
She can take my ropes of cum anytime, if you know what I mean.

>>64825219
What if you like Chinese women, but hate Chinese nationals and China the country? Ralphie May put it best I think, Chinese people raised anywhere other than China:fine, decent, regular people like yoilu or me, Chinese nationals:SCUM OF THE EARTH.

>>64824255
well obviously i can't take this sort of dance routine seriously (let alone petty chinkoid nationalism, especially coming from a huwite woman) but i think it's nice that she gets to exercise and can't help but imagine her all musty after 3 or 4 takes to get everything right for tiktok or whatever, just waiting for a hand to go down there to the horse's mouth before putting benis in bagina, if you know what i mean

>>64824597
>black socks with white sneakers
nevermind, absolutely disgusting, it's over

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>>64824284
Dunno, but it's almost always whites for some reason. Blacks are usually only into the martial arts aspect of Chinese culture and are also usually weebs. Non chink asians are also always weebs or koreaboos.

>>64824259
Promotion time!

>>64824388
why would you punch someone when you could hit them with your big ass sword?

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>>64824597
This editing is awful.

>>64824311
GET OUT

>>64826003
I don't want to ruin my dancing sword

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>>64824255
its the same as odachi from japan
japs and chinese very obviously copied each other's millitary tech all the time

>>64824421
Did they actually try to use mass sword formations to rush into gun fire? Did they not learn that was a bad idea when they tried that shit on the British during the opium wars?

>>64826090
They did it again during the fucking Boxer's Rebellion too

>>64826096
And in WW2 against the Japanese as part of the 'big knife' units equipped with the dadao sword
Now they mostly just stick to shopping malls, kindergartens and train stations for their games of knifey-choppy in China

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>>64824362
That's because you never had rhythm.

>>64826086
Swords with different grips and blade geometries are different.

>>64826090
The Han have been losing fights for all of human history, they're the product of thousands of years of selective breeding to produce people terrible at war.

>>64826539
they both serve the same purpose as horse cutting swords though the chinese have a few more variants simply due to being larger and having more regions

>>64824284
its "white monkeys'

>>64824255
that's a big kitchen

>>64826090
a night attack with melee weapons in the 40s was quite viable

the japs had bolt action rifles as long as themselves

I bet its an okay big sword. The flashy moves however make it hard to appreciate as a weapon.

>>64824255
Why is it so floppy and wobbly?

>>64826766
Spring steel

>>64826766
She's somewhat attractive but not enough.

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>>64824284
Xiaboo

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>>64826748
Its not its a flashy dance enhancer. These chinese props do shit like perfectly round handles which is nice for spinning but not something you want on a real weapon.

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>>64824255
Why the blade bit so wobbly?

>>64826910
Because it's a show dance piece barely thicker than foil, not a functional weapon.

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>>64826090
>Did they actually try to use mass sword formations to rush into gun fire
Yes. But they were somewhat intelligent in what context they should use mass sword formations in. The Jap 106th division mainly consisting of reservists managed to get themselves surrounded by 8 Chinese divisions and 2 corps. The Japanese division commander (Matsuura) had a 9 day plan consisting of speed and surprise so he packed only 6 days worth of food with the remaining 3 days acquired by stealing from Chinese peasants and then went into an area that is the most shittiest terrain you could imagine for speed and surprise, no trucks could be used so they used horses and some of the paths were only wide enough for 1 man and 1 horse. Shitty ground, thick forest and naturally lingering fogs proved itself to be excellent terrain to get ambushed in. Japanese intelligence also incorrectly assumed there was only light Chinese or no Chinese forces in that specific area.
>22 September, 106th division (136th and 111th infantry brigade) consisting of 12666 men take of for the hills. Another 6400 men existed but they were put on rear guard positions and did not get encircled.
>26 September the 106th advance is very slow due to shitty terrain, poor maps and high iron content of the rocks in the area even render compasses inoperable. They also get spotted by the Chinese 102nd division and are constantly getting harassed
>28 September the 106th are now surrounded, on the west they got 91st, 142nd, 187th and 13th
divisions and the 6th Reserve Division’s artillery regiment and to the east they got 4th and 348th Infantry regiments (58th Division, 74th Corps) as well as 66th Corps, and the 90th and 155th divisions, Matsuura get told by aerial recon that he is off-course by 10km, his force is surviving on aerial drops for food and ammunition.

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>>64826969
>Jap army commander (Ookamura) realized the 106th are about to die so he sent a force consisting of 3 infantry battalions, 2 arty batteries and 1 company of tanks commanded by Saeda to save them but they only actually leave on the 8th October due to delays and having to wait for 2700 replacement men, he latter sent another relief force led by Suzuki with 3 infantry battalions and 2 arty batteries to help.
>106th try to breakout but are unsuccessful. They do however on 6th October force the Chinese 58th division, down on 500 men to get replaced by the 51st thanks to one Japanese regiment doing multiple suicidal banzai charges. The 6400 men part of the 106th that got left behind in guard position try and help the main force but make no progress.
>7th-8th October 3 Chinese regiments part of the 51st scale a 50 meter cliff on the south and attack the Japs with 100 of the fittest men leading the charge in the night, if they take the hill the can zerg rush down the hill straight into the 106th headquarter that is less then 1km away from the hill. Only at dawn with the help from 2 air brigades can a Japanese counter-attack push the Chinese back but the air support cant provide support when it become dark again so the hill changed hands 5 times for 48 hours and losses are severe but the Chinese managed to hold the hill in the end despite suffering 5000 casualties.
>During this the Japanese again try to breakout to the west but is stopped.
>10th October The 51st and another Chinese division the 90th decide to do another night attack only this time it is a complete moonless night so they have everyone strip to the waist and cut down anyone not dressed as them. At one point the attacking Chinese were only 100 meters away from the 106th command center. Matsuura was seriously considering suicide then getting captured by the Chinese but the Chinese failed to completely wipe out the 106th so they stop all major combat operations after the 10th October.

>>64826974
>13th October The 2 Jap relief force meetup and push towards the 106th from the west. The Chinese decide to withdraw instead of getting themselves encircled
>17 October the Japanese relief force finally meet the 106th. Only about 1500 men are alive from the original 12666 men, all the horses they had are dead and all heavy equipment got lost. The Chinese losses were equally as severe or higher but despite this they successfully delayed Japanese advance long enough that vital Chinese civilian infrastructure could be evacuated in time to Chongqing from Wuhan

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>>64826768
wet noodle steel

>>64824255
Yea no. When the camera man moves more than the martial artist I can not be fucked to take them seriously.

>>64827897
Actually I'd like to amend that.
In a movie, with decent direction, she would blow 99% of current action starlets out of the water.

>>64826022
That style of editing has been used in Hollywood for decades now. It's very useful when you want your actor to be clearly visible in a fight scene, but said actor has no fucking clue on how to make his fight moves look convincing. I'd imagine the intent here is somewhat similar in nature.

>>64824430
>how useful for fighting it is
Not at all. Is this your first experience with traditional Chinese martial arts? It's performance theater. There's a reason why CMA is only effective against other practitioners of CMA, and why you don't see CMA used competitively outside of CMA-only competitions. That scene is so bad that the PRC had to literally sand the serial number off of unified MMA and rebrand it as a Chinese invention in order to get the rest of the martial arts community to take them seriously.
>tldr china steals invention and takes credit for it
>nobody believes them
>many such cases
>sad

>>64827903
She could blow me too.
But given choice I would much rather be blown by any of the starlets.

>>64824255
All that posturing and camera movement. Give a thin man a steel pipe snd she would still get bodied.

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>>64824597
So many stabby-stabby opportunities.

>>64826090
Sword + Handguns, not that bad of an tactic if you get the drop on the enemy.
Besides there are many many acounts of people being shot 5+ times and still killing the shooter in melee.

>>64830790
>That style of editing has been used in Hollywood for decades now.
I never thought I'd say this, but Hollywood's use of camera effects is downright tasteful compared to whatever bug shot this slop. It's simultaneously as silly and over the top as 300 while being as eye-rapingly unwatchable as the Bourne movies.

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>sproioioioioioinnnnngggg

>>64830846
Tall guy or short spear?

>>64826086
Japs copied better.

>>64830916
hallmark of a fake/shitty sword.

>>64831147
Wushu ain't real, never was. It's sports gymnastics.

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>>64831190
Scottish Claymores are also floppy. With spring steel if the blade is thin, that's normal.

>>64831147
Yea, that is excessive wobble, even considering the length.

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>>64824311
Crouching tiger closet faggots

>>64826090

It was done out of desperation due to terrible logistics and shortage of modern weaponry. This approach worked okay against European powers in the 19th century, but more mixed results against the Japanese who were using 20th century firepower.

>>64826741

Not that viable against the Japanese. The average Japanese soldier was well trained in CQC and hand to hand combat, especially when it came to bayonet drills. According to accounts of KMT officers, to win a melee engagement the Chinese needed to outnumber the Japanese 3 to 1.

>>64830790

>Not at all. Is this your first experience with traditional Chinese martial arts? It's performance theater.

That's most TMAs, you can easily say this about Korean and Japanese TMAs. Most CMA are pretty good on their martial art theories and logic, but due to centuries of being suppressed by the Qing, the KMT, and the CCP most of them have been reduced to museum pieces. Most CMA masters don't have a grasp of the fundamentals of their style and as you've said just engage in play acting. There are a handful that have retained their combat effectiveness like shuai jiao, and I don't understand why the CCP propaganda department doesn't promote it more.

>>64831101

Nah Jap swords are shit and a weeaboo meme.

>>64824255
>this is NOT a japanese sword
>it's a KNOCKOFF of a japanese sword

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>>64831505
>hey everybody it's the scholar general mo jiang dian bing
what the fuck happened to this guy. he needs to make more videos NOW.

>>64832759
CMA is retarded, just stop. the forms are retarded and reflect a retard's understanding of fighting. it's not that they just didn't do live sparring enough so they aren't good at combat, the fundamental techniques and precepts of kung fu are just goofy bullshit.

>>64826989
Lancer class always gets done dirty. I want just one FATE story where the main servant is a Lancer, do he/she is allowed to win fights.

>>64832811

Their shit isn't any goofier than forms and mechanics you find in other systems. Problem is that they're often taught out of context and the meaning is lost to both masters and students. Live sparring doesn't always translate to effectiveness; most popular combat systems are retarded and suck for self-defense. The shit you see popularized in MMA are min-maxed for tournament fighting; styles like BJJ are heavily sportizied to the point that most practitioners don't train for actual self-defense situations and scenarios.

>>64833280
>Their shit isn't any goofier than forms and mechanics you find in other systems
absolutely false

>>64833280
It's rhythmic sports gymnastics with different props.

>>64831505
wow, swords really dominate spears when the spearman thrusts once and stops moving

>>64824612
>now
There never was.

>>64832786
That is the most /k/ picture I have seen in a long long long time

>>64832786
I've always been super interested in the sword in this pic. Swords in China circa 1900 are super interesting to me because they're probably one of the best historical analogs for modern tactical swords.

>>64835687
Having done a fair bit of asymmetrical hema sparring, I can tell you that trying to stand way back and poke with a spear will get you killed 9 out of 10 times in a 1v1 against a competent opponent armed with anything else. Using it like a quarterstaff is much more effective. It has the same problem as rapier, you've got exactly one chance to try and poke the guy before he's past the point and your only option is to try and run backwards faster than he can run forwards.

>>64824362
capoeira has been a thing for centuries

>>64835896
>capoeira
Is not to be taken seriously. You only know about it because of Tekken.

>>64834126

It's completely true. And if you want to see really goofy shit, read medieval German fight books.

>>64835815

Swords have no use in the modern battlefield where firepower is king. Its role in CQC was superseded by the bayonet, which is a far better weapon due to it's length and versatility. In WWII, even the Japanese officers and NCOs preferred to use the bayonet over their shin gunto and katana.

>>64835842

That just tells me that no one in your group understood the meta of spears and pole-arms. Spears in particular embody the concept that offense is the best defense; it's meant to be used aggressively with constant strikes that keep your opponent off balance and on the defensive. Holding the spear at the base not only gives you distance, but ease of manipulation of the weapon while exerting minimal energy, allowing you to make quick continuous attacks without exhausting yourself. There's a reason why pole-arms were the primary weapon for most soldiers throughout the majority of human history.

>>64833280
lmao ok zhang, next time your scrawny manlet ass appears anywhere outside of your mountain cuck shed you'll get your face smashed in hard enough to see your butthole again

>>64836204
>Swords have no use in the modern battlefield where firepower is king.
Yes, and?
I don't think you read my post right.

>>64836204
>And if you want to see really goofy shit, read medieval German fight books.
The illustrations might be a bit goofy but the actual techniques are both practical and brutal. Eye-gouging, ball-crushing, armpit-stabbing, kidney shots, etc.

Impressive

>>64832773
japan is literally a chinese knockoff

>>64840919
Arguably an improved iteration.

>>64833280
>judo is goofy because the strikes are bullshit
>karate is goofy because no grappling and the punches suck
>boxing is goofy because no grappling
>bjj is goofy because turtling is gay and leglocks don't actually work outside of competitive environments
>kung fu is goofy because someone thought pretending to be a bird was a good basis for learning to fight
There are levels to this.

>>64824255
pretty impressive I wont lie, but white people doing eastern martial arts will always be cringe

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>>64824255
inferior to its Western equivalent no matter how many circus flips and moderately attractive girls you enter into the equation

>>64841895
Konichiwa dude

>>64835932
wrong retard, I only know about it because the Jamaican guy who taught religious ed at my school was a practicioner

>>64824624
are you trolling or non-koreans have this mental illness too?

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>>64824597
AIIIIIEEEEEEE KOREABROS DON’T OPEN THESE WEBMS!!!!

>>64824255
the bravery of that cameraman

>>64824284
tankie

>>64824284
they're called "faggot"

>>64836204
Spears are king when they're in formations. 1v1's are not it's strong suit, hence why you always saw them dominate in, drum roll, mass formations.

>>64824284
it used to be a very small group of what you'd call sinophiles.
nowadays a lot of them are just contrarian losers who have failed in their lot in life and reactionarily started dicksucking china as "le toppler of rome" (even if chinks themselves don't really see it that way) because they have literally nothing else going for them in life.

>>64824255
>blade flops like wet noodle
Why is this a thing in every performative sword play? It looks like absolute shit.

>>64831505
this is very cute and endearing until you realize that in reality that spear would be a lot longer and there would be a bunch more guys with spears left and right to him who would stab that guy in the throat the moment he committed to blocking that one thrust

>>64840919
it's a knockoff in the way that the western gun is better in every way than chinese firework toys IE better in every single way and actually taken seriously unlike the former.

>>64842991
This would have substance if China didn't dwarf Japan today in nearly every metric that isn't kowtowing to a foreign power.

>>64842998
good thing it doesn't then, in terms of soft power and numerous other metrics, it is still pretty irrelevant compared to japan, especially if you throw in taiwan and korea alongside that.

>>64824311
CARLOOOOOS!

>>64825634
Is this real?

>>64843319
MY CREATION!

>>64825473
Are they really Chinese at that point though? Sure they have a racial heritage, but someone like that who spent their entire life in America is just an American.

>>64842998
China doing well for 50 years doesn’t erase centuries of humiliation.

>>64830790
I still think it's kind of cool as dance and athleticism.

>>64838940
i dunno dude, from my experience with japanese and chinese martial arts that sounds exactly the same.

iirc two handed swords in the west were used by bodyguards for large groups of people. also seems pretty similar.

>>64842978
western swords could also be floppy, even war swords.

the amount of seethe this thread generated showcases how fragile and afraid amerimutts are of anything Chinese.

Chinese century is here to stay, Joao. Raging on 4chan won't stop it.

>>64845779
>iirc two handed swords in the west were used by bodyguards for large groups of people.
That was the most common use case for one very specific type of two-handed sword during a period of about ~100 years. The vast majority of two-handed swords were used as sidearms.

>also seems pretty similar.
The vast majority of swordsmanship techniques, globally, are mostly similar between types of sword as opposed to discrete traditions - swinging a ~30" curved sword from a horse involves pretty much the same technique whether it's happening in Texas in 1864 or the Iranian plateau a full thousand years earlier.

>>64846832
Do you think all the flipping is an evolutionary behavior learned to evade escalators?

>>64843610
I'm surprised it took so long for this to get posted.

>>64842342
That's appropriate since divine intervention is the only way he's dancing his way to victory.

>>64846832
>another angry chinkshill post-humiliation victory proclamation
the amount of seethe you express in every single one of your failed shill threads showcases how fragile and afraid contrarian failed men are of anything american.

i'm sorry that it doesn't work chinkshill, but you really need to stop hitting yourself, it's fucking embarrassing, what would your parents think?

>>64826539
He's right, the Miao Dao was derived from the Odachi.
https://greatmingmilitary.blogspot.com/2015/04/chang-dao.html

>>64824255
cool choreography
Dao seems flimsy tho

>>64824255
The video seems to be sped up.
I do like Russian girls tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqn7Umb-_Y

>>64824284
Cheeb or Ceeb

>>64847002
the same way you avoid a diet?

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>>64824288
It's getting a bit silly when you can't even enjoy kung fu or jackie chan movies. Come on guys, stop being fags.

>>64849204
chinks have more fat in their diet than americans though, little chinkshill.

>>64824255
ok but whats the historical origin of all these useless jumps clearly people weren't doing that in battles or even duels so where does it come from?

>>64849204
>y-you're fat, you do physical flips to avoid dieting
Great comeback, wang

>>64849773
Probably a combination of looks cool and exercise. A lot of people like to boil shit down too far or ignore any possibility of simple contextual answers for why X or Y was done with some martial art that's hundreds of years old and shove everything into "how does this specific move work in a fight". For instance jumping exercises to build explosiveness are common to this day for professional or amateur fighters, there's a lot more of a distinction between exercises that are good for fighting and the actual fighting skills parts these days as well. A lot of older martial arts were considered more of a total solution in terms of both exercising for the fight and practicing skills for the fight. That's part of the reason a lot of them are so kata heavy or use stances that build your legs for instance. They make a lot more sense when you consider it within the context of training some DYEL rice farmer a total package for both training fitness and fighting skills in the time before gyms and proper isolation exercises. Also if it looks cool to said rice farmers then that means master gets more disciples which I'm sure was never a factor in some of the more dancey prancey sort of maneuvers.

>>64849773
They were sometimes making some bucks with pre-arranged fights during festivities, like circus artists or strongmen. An impressive show surely paid better (at it seems that when people were throwing vegetables at the performers in China then it was a sign of appreciation - unlike with throwing some eggs or tomatoes in our cultures for example. Because vegetables were highly praised and artists just had their dinner funded)