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>>64827013
NAA Mini, Unitarian.

>russian orthodox
fake christian. you just like the rituals and outfits.

>>64827013
I'm in no need of a gun at my church, Jesus is my only protection.

Leave it to a Muslim to ruin a perfectly good religion thread.

Deus vault

>>64827013
>CZ Rami
>Self Enlighten

>>64827047
>perfectly good religion thread
>starts mentioning russian """orthodox"""
Bait thread is all it is.

>>64827181
My God, a vengeful God, will punish you for that remark.

>>64827024
trvth nvke. every russian orthodox ive met that lives in america is a big larping faggot.

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>>64827038
>Sunni Muslim
Sall’Allahu alayhi wasalam.

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>>64827348
He will also punish you when you put down this phase religion in 6 months.

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>glock 17 with rubber bullets
>church of atheism

>>64827387
Not me pally. I'm a Unitarian. Like, next best thing to Chosen.

>>64827013
>my dick
>Cult of Dionysus

Beretta 21A Bobcat. Also my work carry. Very specifically for the tip up barrel so I can make absolutely sure the chamber is clear when I get in the building. All the horror stories about NDs really got to me I guess

>carrying in church
do christcucks really?

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>>64827502
https://files.catbox.moe/mt0ysu.mp4
this couldve been a mass casualty event if fudd didnt have his 1911 on him.

>>64827520
Why do I feel kinda bad for the shooter desu. He got downed like a pathetic retard and lost all of his aura.

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>religion

>>64827526
My school went on lockdown during this.

>>64827541
mudslimes are tautologically evil

>>64827571
islam

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>>64827601
it's a better one than yours

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>>64827013
Are Russian Orthodox churches in the US the same arm of the fsb shit as the "real" ones or are they separated?
I feel like I remember learning they're a different deal since the cold war but I'm not sure

>>64827607
>Also White Muslims exist. I am one.
you're not white, you're brown. you gave up whiteness when you embraced brown spirituality.

>>64827013
>686
>Baptist, but I haven't been to church in a while
Think I'll attend next sunday, services are probably over today

>>64827623
no, it was created by a brown subhuman pedo and that's who it's for. enjoy your goats.

>>64827663
Engrish goatfucker.

>>64827745
1/10 bait, nonmuzzie.

>>64827610
No. They are separated. My church is entirely American converts. Even the priests.

>>64827520
Pretty sure he had a Sig

>>64827879
Ya it was a p229 in 357 sig.

.454 Casull
Anglican Church

>>64827769
Ok. I accept you as a convert to a heritic cult.

>>64827912
Based

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>S&W 642
>Discordian

>>64827013
smith 629. every step I take is in the house of God

>>64828437
Kino

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>>64828437
oh shit

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>>64827013

>>64827571
Proof: >>64827566

>>64827348
Your """god""" will get droned like a pathetic faggot, just like your countrymen.

>>64827531
religion is fine as long as it's not practiced like in burgeristan where it is a fucking fashion statement

a nation should have its national religion that mostly just takes care of the practical everyday affairs like burials and weddings
the religion's moral code should be deeply embedded into the national identity
at that point rituals and other faggotry are not required, religion has done its job and the society is ready to advance to the next level

>>64827348
no christian talks like this, dude. you are a performatively christian atheist.

>>64828601
>anon has America Bad tunnel vision to such a degree that he literally knows nothing about any other country
typical

>>64828649
interesting projection

>>64828601
I’m an American Christian and my faith isn’t performative.

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>>64827013
vp9sk
behdin

>>64827520
And the woman go ape shit, screaming and crawling.

>dress is different for church
should be easy to carry a full size in case some mudslime or tranny weirdo wants to do the attention seeking thing.

>>64828778
I can magdump that p32 into a watermelon at 15 yards. I’ll be fine.

>>64828916
Why do you hate watermelons so much?

>>64828925
It's thanks to men like him you never have to find out

>>64827013
If I were going to a church, I would just bring gasoline and a zippo lighter.
As for defending my place of worship, either Beretta 92X Centurion or custom GLOCK 26 consisting of Glockstore M1X frame and gen 5 frame.
My religious views are folk religion. The particular folk religion I embrace is Germanic/Nordic paganism and I differentiate a god from his story version used in the metaphysical lessons that are the mythology.

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>>64828959

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>>64827520
Love this bitch

>>64829035
do you have the gif of her touching herself to her python

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>>64827013
Mark 23
Baptist
Gondola stays home though

>>64829089
How do you hide that big boah

Given what we know about the Epstein/Bannon things molding 4chan from what it once was, it's sad to see how many people have been PSYOP'd into moving towards Christianity.

>>64829162
5'oclock if I've got shirt that can go over it.
Or a small backpack with my Bible if I've got wardrobe restrictions.

>>64827013
1911, government
Catholic
>>64827038
>russian orthodoxy existed in the first century
>im Muslim btw
Never change anon. Not all religion are so much so JUST the rituals and outfits, secondary to a local cult. It’s the issue Catholics always had come up when introducing God to any given barbaric population, to the point it became accounted for as a feature; and it is what your prophet, in the most generous sense, attempted with the Arabs.
>>64827430
>
What a honker on this one.

>>64829169
I wonder if the shepherd girl character was created in reaction to all the shapiro “kosher-redacted” and banana atheist posting, or was she just co-opted by genuine Christian’s after. Never image post, but most people who do post her seem pretty sincere when they do, not counting the obvious kikes and pozz golems who would spam her getting beheaded etc.
Feels + man.

>>64828745
Isn't it crazy? How they just start screaming whenever anything happens. Can you even imagine doing that? Like in the most tense, scariest moments of my life where my death was a real possibility, I've never even thought about screaming or even making any kind of sound.

>>64827013
>CZ RAMI
>LCMS Lutheran

>>64829308
Biological programming. In a tribe, woman scream, men act.
If they don’t scream, they die and no one acts

>>64829169
>go to church
>everyone is redpilled on the Jews
>actively trying to do anti-jewish things
idk bro just don't go to an Americanized church and you should be fine
>inb4 illiterate fedora tier response

>>64828688
If your goal is to get everyone to hate mudslims even more, you're doing a great job
Keep it up

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>>64827013
>Uberti Cattleman II and the gun with no name
>Southern Baptist.
Honestly, I'm only one because it's all I've ever really known, but looking at Christian history and their practices has me considering joining Catholicism or Orthodoxy; I need to know more about them though.

>>64830056
Hair curler or eyebrow dryer?

>>64830455
>Early 2000s anti-muslim boomer tier stuff does not work anymore
Works for me goatfucker. Renounce your heretic cult religion for Jesus Christ.

>>64829485
There is a sizeable part of the church in the us that understands the nature of the Jews which is shown to us in the Bible, you just need to avoid the mainstream evangelical megachurches

>>64830465
I find that guys who are down on the church and aren't Jewish simply haven't read into the deeper teachings of Christianity at all and have zero nuanced understanding of it beyond MAYBE a Sunday school tier understanding, thus you see a lot of guys saying it's some kind of Jewish scam to make you a pawn or something ridiculous. You are a pawn, a much loved pawn of Christ whether you want to be or not

>>64828168
>discord vc chime
>what are your sins, my kitten?
>m-my gun has a lock on it
>very well. 3 fortnite raids in moisty mire, chat ban for 6 hours and in that time i want you to reflect upon your nitro subscription

>>64830475
>MAYBE a Sunday school tier understanding
Sadly, less than that. Abosolute ignorance flavored with baseless contempt.
>rreee church pedos
Lame diversion.

>>64827013
>agnostic
>Glock G43

>>64830493
Predictable.

>>64830497
Yet pragmatic ;D

>>64830056
Join orthodoxy fren

>>64830508
These choices do dispense with some cumbersome overhead. (Praise Jesus).

>>64828565
>The anger of theLordburned against them,and he left them. Numbers 12:9
Don't be like Miriam or you'll become leporus.

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>>64830480
>what are your sins, my kitten?
>m-my gun has a lock on it
they make no-lock 642s, as well as a couple other models. S&W is slowly, slowly, sloooowly coming around on this issue.

>>64830739
Yeah, I know they've been making them for literally like 10 years, but I bet it still has a lock on it.

>>64830800
they released a non-lock version like two years ago.

>>64830808
I think it's been longer than that
they've been making no-lock 642s specifically because that model was popular with cops as a drop gun, I mean as a backup gun. But now they're doing their new vintage model 10 line without locks as well, so now they're moving back into the regular consumer market with lockless revolvers.

>>64830870
But you place a heretic above the Son of God. As much a cult religion as the Mormans. You might as well worship Quetzalcóatl.

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Colt Cobra

Reform Jewish

At work so no picture

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>>64830895
Okay fine here's picture

365 Flux Raider, I wear it under my cassock
Eastern Orthodox

>>64830925
Post pic, you lying cossack!

>>64831072
Would if I had one, I'm at work rn.

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>>64827013
Catholic. Nearly every dude at my parish carries.

>>64831181
Doesnit make sense to choose ou daily carry based on the holster you want and what it fits? I think 99% chose a gun and complain about the lack of holsters available for it..

>>64827024
Silence heretic, you know nothing of tradition since you've spent the last 500s destroying it and atomising yourself.

>>64831271
I have made holsters myself, kydex is not difficult to work with. I did this for a steyr s9a1 that had no commercial holsters at the time I bought it. The holster in my picture is a basic vedder though. 2075 Rami has plenty of options if not as many as a glock 43 or something.

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Kahr T9
I work as a musician in a liberal United Methodist church. It's a good job but the church is fallen. Obviously I have to hide my power level at all times
I am looking for a truthpilled, non-fallen church. That is surprisingly difficult to find. I always hear this rhetoric from the liberal "Christians" about the supposedly ubiquitous scourge of "WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM" in the US. And I'm like... Yeah!! Where are those scoundrels at?? ...But really though where are they

>>64831282
you arent on stage so why are you talking like that?

>>64831332
I have liberal relatives. They really, genuinely think the Klan and Reaganite Evangelicals are pulling all the strings everywhere. They won't even address the fact that the KKK is basically irrelevant and has had a literal avowed FBI informant as Grand Wizard, nor do they make any effort to reconcile the decline of the influence of evangelicals and Christianity more generally, nevermind the fact that the white population is actually falling. It's bizarre.

I want to be a wizard!

>>64831339
It's monday time for /druk/

>>64830461
If you put a lighter on it for long enough it can be both actually.
>>64830562
Why Orthodoxy over Catholicism in your opinion?

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>>64830562
>fren
there's nothing quite like getting religious advice from someone who uses babytalk on 4chan

>>64831501
Orthodox are self ruling, so the chance of some retard patriarch fucking up the whole thing is small.
Catholicism is centered around the Pope, one "bad" Pope and the faith goes rocky for some time.

>>64831520
>I wouldn't want a bad pope to make some wild calls
>so I will choose an entirely different religion with different dogmas
this thought process doesn't make any sense. shouldn't you just be choosing whatever church you believe to be closest to the truth?

>>64831332
Christian Nationalists are almost uniformly the Calvinist answer to rabbinical Jews, terrible Christology, a lawyerly approach to scripture, and a blind eye to internal crimes like csam and chomo activity. The definition of a fallen church. Your best bet are churches that were mainstream but retreated from their mainstream sects when the mainstream churches went too hard in the paint on the issue of women leaders and fag leaders, but they aren’t going to be the overtly nationalist club you want.

Try out a Lutheran Church in Christ’s Mission. They’ve got good Christology, but split from the mainstream Lutherans over the push for fag preachers back in the day. It will be too inclusive for you if you’re looking for Christian Nationalism, but it’s hard to reconcile good Christology with the hardcore Christian Nationalist beliefs.

>>64831533
Technically, no. All claim to be truthful and in the defence of truth. Religion is not something you choose on a whim.

>>64831501
Orthodoxy is as close as you can get to the original church.
>>64831517
Newfag

>>64831684
>Newfag
"Fren" and all the other frogposting babytalk came here with all the redditors from /r/the_donald in 2016.
>fren
>comfy
literally just 4chan's version of heckin' wholesome. red flag for failed men

>>64831644
What he means is the Lutheran ideology that every man is a capable interpreter of scripture and theology so long as he has the education to be exposed to The Word of God and the Doctrines of the Church. This is why there’s a million little variant Lutheranisms, every time a Discerner has a disagreement with his pastor, he founds a new sect consisting of him and those that follow him, with its own theology, Christology, and Othropraxy.

In practice though, if you’re choosing a church and not founding one willy-nilly, there is merit to the idea of experiencing a church by talking to a minister about the theological and Christological precepts that govern the church’s choices and participating in worship there, to see if it fits your heart.

And there are aspects of church life apart from othropraxy and Christology and Theology that are important, too, because the way that a church reacts to human wrongdoing inside its walls is also an important factor. You don’t want a church that asks you to pray for healing and drop the issue if a deacon molests your child, no matter how well the day to day life in church fits your heart.

>>64831693
You are weird

>>64831705
uh oh, did I make the thread uncomfy? maybe you can suck on your pacifier a little and feel all better

I EDC a P32 but that's more because I'm a skinny twink and it's all I can realistically conceal.

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>One
>Holy
>Catholic
>Apostolic
Yep, I’m thinking the trve chvrch

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>>64828964
GLOCK is incomplete. I also want to have the mag release moved to the other side.

>>64831844
>have the mag release moved to the other side.
Why would you fuck with perfection?

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>>64831806
Erm actually Pope Michael told me Rome fell into modernist heresy after Vatican II

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>>64827013
>G43x
>Episcopalian

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>>64831684
>Orthodoxy is as close as you can get to the original church.
Except, of course, for having the Vicar of Christ, head of the Bishops, which Christ kind of appointed...

>>64832246
>even people who aren't Christian agree with me!
Wow! That's so cool anon, what next, are we going to ask the Jews to affirm our views on Christ? You pagan idol worshiper.

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>>64832251
Despite Vatican II and libtarded bishops trying to muddy the waters, it really cannot be argued that Muslims and Christians worship the same God if you deny the divinity of God the Son.

>>64832251
>Im Sunni first
Yes, pagan rock worshiper.
>second Christians and Muslims worship the same God
I have no doubt you worship the god of the Jews. This is not my God.

>>64832262
Quiet Baalspawn.

>>64832263
Bodied that freak

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Church of Christ (hispanic, non denominational)
I'm not exactly making fun of the biblical character of Mary herself, im having a little laugh at the catholics

>>64832251
Christians worship and serve the specific God Yahweh, the "I am" and the creator of the universe who is three (Father, Son, and Holy spirti) but also one infinite God. He also happens to be the ONLY real God.
If you choose to serve someone different such as "allah" (invented by a pedophile illiterate from the middle east) who claims to never have a son, its not the same god, its not even a god.

One of the more interesting things I learned when studying Zoroastrianism, was actually early Islam's critiques of Zoroastrianism. Chief among these were:

>You guys follow a bunch of books and beliefs that aren't in your original scripture
>wasting time throughout the day to recite manthras isn't holy it's lazy
Which is utterly hilarious because now Muslims have taken on both of these. The vast majority of Islamic belief and law comes from hadiths, and not the Quran, and of course they have their regular prayers throughout the day.

>>64832262
the claim that mudslimes worship the same God as Christians do is because deep down. they think that lying is not just acceptable but preferable to being honest. because the claim isn't made for theological reasons but to try and trick people into reciting the shahada.
this also shows how they have a magical, childlike way of thinking; if you recite the magic words, you are theirs forever. it doesn't matter if you did it as a joke, you did it while drunk, break every single rule and doctrine of their faith. you said the funny words. so you are theirs and what ever good you do will be you "converter's" blessing

>>64832462
Ra wasn't the God of Abraham you silly idolater pagan.

>>64827610
depends on the denomination. OCA are zigger-free, ROCOR and the Serbians are basically fifth-columnists, and most of the rest are in-between.

>>64830056
don't, you were right the first time

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Jewish, non-practicing

>>64830056
Papism is for spics and if you aren't Russian, joining a Russian Orthodox church is just larping

>>64827013
Two swords. Amish

>>64832513
respond to all the other posts except for the one that explains specifically that Christians believe in the trinity, an absolute complete and utter destruction of the pedophile muslim "god of abraham" to try to lie your way into heaven. It will not work, you will burn along with your child rapist prophet.

>>64832658
the retard illiterate pedophile "god" of muslims rejects the concept of having a son that came down to earth to die for the sins of humanity. Specifically, Jesus of Nazareth born in Bethlehem.
This means he cannot be the true God, he is specifically NOT the god of christians

>>64832500
>ROCOR and the Serbians are basically fifth-columnists
This isn’t true at all.

>>64832679
No, you are pagans who do not worship our God. There is only one God, our Lord Jesus Christ.

>>64832679
Did Allah have a son, born on a manger in Bethlehem, who is 100% Human but also born of virgin birth and 100% God, and does he share a body with the trinity, the Son, The Father, and the Holy spirit, and did Allah's son, which is also himself, die from crucifixion at the hands of roman occupiers in Jerusalem only to come back to life 3 days later?

If Allah did not do this then he is not Yahweh. He is a demon created by a pedophile who raped his 9 year old wife in the desert and fooled you into praying to him.

>muslim thought Christians would actually agree that they worship the same God
almost feel bad for the guy

>>64832697
>If your only critique of Islam is atheistic liberal feminist polemics, you have nothing to stand on.
Answer the question, pedophile apologist.
Did your "god" send his only son to be sacrificed for the sins of humanity?
NO, he did not. He is FALSE. We do not praise that demon.

>>64832705
>God's worship is not dependant on "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16)
>NOT DEPENDANT ON AN INFINITE PART OF HIMSELF

Tell me, braindead follower of a pedophile illiterate rapist named Muhammad, how do you claim that MY God is not real yet also in the SAME BREATH claim your god is the same as mine.

>>64832697
pedo detected.
>As Mahomet says that his Al-Coran is the sovereign wisdom, so says the Pope of his own decrees. For they be the two horns of Antichrist
Uh
>The Turks have spread far and wide, and the world is full with impious despisers of God
Hmm
>Although the Heathen keep still their dotages; although the Jews be wilfil in maintaining these false expositions of the law; although the Turks hold still their Mahomet’s Al-Coran; although the Papists be still entangled in their superstitions – all is one! For they hold fast this principle, that there is a God. Meantime, they worship a puppet.
Well, it doesn't look Calvin agrees at all. Why, what a surprise, a Muslim is misinformed on Christian theology and belief, far from the first time!

What does Luther have to say?
>From this anyone can easily see that Mohammed is a destroyer of our Lord Christ and his kingdom, and if anyone denies the articles concerning Christ, that he is God’s Son, that he died for us and still lives and reigns at the right hand of God, what has he left of Christ? Father, Son, Holy Ghost, baptism, the sacrament, gospel, faith, and all Christian doctrine and life are gone, and instead of Christ only Mohammed with his doctrine of works and especially of the sword is left. That is the chief doctrines of the Turkish faith in which all abominations, all errors, all devils are piled up in one heap.
I'd say that's pretty definitive.
>>64832730
You are an idolater pagan. Your opinion on theology is irrelevant.

>>64832730
>>64832742
There is no such thing as worshiping but "not in fullness" that is something a retard who fucks 9 year old children would come up with.
You either do or you dont. God will either cast you aside into the pit of fire or Jesus Christ of Nazareth as your personal savior will be your advocate and redeem your soul.

If you reject Jesus then you simply are not praising the same god, the END.

>>64832705
>No, but do miaphysites worship the same God
Yes, they are simply wrong about God's nature.
>>64832742
>Did arians
Hard to say, but I am inclined towards no.
>nestorians
Yes
>ebionites
No
>>64832758
>Those are two reformers
Those are the reformers.
>even protestantism is failed now
A lie from a pagan.
>Akhi we worship the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob Alone lmao
You worship the god of Ishmael and Jews.

175+ posts and not one sign of a fellow Presbyterian.
And I mean PCA (Presbyterian Church in America), not those false churches that allow abhorrent lifestyles and sham marriages.
Carry, depending on the mood/day, is either the P365, 642, or 1911 Commander.
I've also carried the SAA 5.5" in a crossdraw a couple of times.

>>64832758
WE Christians do, YOU muslims dont. You do not believe in salvation, you do not believe in the grace of God, you do not believe in His sacrifice. You reject HIM and you will burn. Its as simple as that
>>64832760
>>64832758
You cannot appeal to majority in the face of facts. Jesus Christ of Nazareth, a third but also infinite part of Yahweh, died for our sins. If you do not believe in that then you are WRONG. This is fact. This is exactly what christians believe and if you've noticed that your stupid retard "we worship the same god" bullshit doesnt work at all, ever, it is because the entire christian belief is based on the fact that we are redeemed only through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. I dont CARE if you praise some abrahamic DEMON as if it were a god. If you reject Christ and refuse to accept christ as your ONLY savior then you have absolutely nothing to stand on, you will simply crumble and DIE.

>>64832777
>Why are Christians so butthurtt over the idea that Muslims and them worship the same God
because you worship an invention from a rapist pedophile who fucked his 9 year old SLAVE WIFE and pretended like it was fine.

>>64832780
>Muslims and Christians worship the same God
this doesnt work, you are wrong, we all know you are wrong, and either you will curl up and die a demon worshipper or get killed by a true christian in crusade. Thats it. we dont care what YOU believe, its wrong.

>>64832777
>we put the gays to death
>I mean, we rape little boys, but like, that doesn't count because uh, it doesn't
>moral society
>marry children and commit every deviancy possible, just don't drink (ok sometimes is fine) or eat pork (it's icky)
nah man.
>No, and Jews worshipped the same God Christians do
Maybe they "did" but they certainly "don't."
>Why are Christians so butthurtt over the idea that Muslims and them worship the same God
That would be simply because you do not. Christians do not agree with this idea, and it is not religiously required of us to; it is required of you to believe it. Hence the conflict. You can say, "look at my quran!" but it does not matter to a Christian.
>>64832789
>but Aisha was 15
I'm sure she was 15 at some point, yes, that's how aging works. However she was 6 when she was married and 9 when she was raped. Weasel words won't work, you're not a Jew so you're not good enough at that. Just admit you don't see anything wrong with fucking 9 year olds.

>>64832789
>larping
>muslim that serves a pedophile demon instead of God but claims he serves the same God as Christians, Yahweh.
If you were to say, even as a joke, "Jesus of Nazareth, born in Bethlehem and died on the cross at Jerusalem, died for my sins" im absolutely certain you would simply die on the spot.

>>64832802
>specifically stated in my holy books that aisha was raped at 9 years old
>deny the holy books of my religion for the sake of an argument on the internet
lmao not only did you fail to convert any christians you have also condemned your own soul, not that it wasn't already.

>>64832796
False. Muslims are willing and encouraged to lie about their faith. This is how it is easy to determine it is false, as Christianity does not permit this.

If you were to threaten to kill a muslim if he did not admit Christ is God, he would do so, and it would not be a sin in his eyes.
>>64832802
>She wasn't 9.
She was nine years old when Muhammed raped her.
>>64832807
See? I didn't even get to finish posting before he admits it himself. A "religion" without truth, is not Truth.

>24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
>25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
>26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
These are the words of God. You do not worship this God.
>>64832813
Arguing about this does nothing, because he is fully permitted and expected to lie about his religion.

>>64832817
You're right. Its actually impossible to argue with a person who is allowed to lie and still be accepted by their demon pedophile god.
I guess its what makes us better than them.
I'm gonna play videogames instead.

>>64831332
Join the Orthodox Church. See if you have any local to you and go check it out. Pick whichever church speaks the most English. Some can be entirely in Greek or Russian. There are a lot that are made up entirely of converts though.
t. OP

>>64832846
I hope you one day join one of the Eastern Catholic Churches.
They have the Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom but are in communion with the Holy See.

>>64832823
I read it and discarded it. She was 6 years old when married, she was nine when raped for the first time by Muhammed.
>No I said that simplying aaying words without believing in them mean nothing
Indeed, it is called lying. Your religion encourages it; this is because it is false. It promotes falsehood, permits it, and encourages it.

>It is acceptable (for a Muslim) to eat the meat of a dead animal at a time of great hunger (starvation to the extent that the stomach is devoid of all food); and to loosen a bite of food (for fear of choking to death) by alcohol; and to utter words of unbelief; and if one is living in an environment where evil and corruption are the pervasive norm, and permissible things (Halal) are the exception and a rarity, then one can use whatever is available to fulfill his needs.

>The Prophet saw 'Ammar Ibn Yasir crying, so he wiped off his tears, and said: "The nonbelievers arrested you and immersed you in water until you said such and such (i.e., bad-mouthing the Prophet and praising the pagan gods to escape persecution); if they come back, then say it again."

My religion is Truth. It condemns falsehood, demands honestly in all things, and adherents are expected to die rather than deny God. You do not worship my God.

>>64832831
It is the fundamental difference in theology that to me provides all the evidence necessary that Christianity and Islam cannot worship the same God. I would genuinely sooner believe Zoroastrians worship God. Jews and Muslims simply cannot. God is Truth, and He does not permit lies. The god of the Jews does; the god of the Muslims does. Their 'prophet' instructs his followers to lie.

Even that guy admits it. They cannot understand that fundamental difference between us.
>oh well I didn't mean it so it doesn't count
is just not a concept Christians can accept, on a fundamental level. Muslims have multiple terms for it, verses on when and how it is ok to lie, commentaries on how what you say and what you mean can be different. It's repulsive. I think every Christian, all of us, no matter denomination can agree to that. You just hear this nonsense and it makes your skin crawl. It is wrong.

>>64832919
No, we do not. God does not permit lies, and no prophet of God has ever told his followers to lie.

You cannot understand this.
>21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
>22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
God says you WILL be persecuted, and put to death, and should endure it to the end. The god of Islam says you can lie, and when living among nonbelievers act as they do to preserve your life.

>26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
>27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
>28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
God says you should speak every Word He has revealed, none of it is to be hidden. Even on pain of death to have no fear, but to face it knowing that mankind has no power at all. The god of Islam says you may conceal or lie about their faith, dying is bad and you should avoid it.

You do not worship my God.

>>64832928
>Yes that makes perfect sense you have to have Niyyah and your heart must accept it.
Of course it makes perfect sense to a liar.
>Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
You do not worship this God. You do not worship God. You do not believe in the Truth.
>second it is not allowed all the time but just in life ir death circumstances
That doesn't matter in the slightest, and only goes to show your religion is false.
>Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
>As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

You do not worship my God.

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>Godfather is the TRUE story of Michael Corleone. You don't even know who Michael Corleone is
>No, Michael Corleone as depicted in Godfather II is the REAL Michael Corleone. You deserve to fucking die
great thread guys

>>64833026
>uhm, let me just compare my religion to fiction!
Great point Mohammedan. I do not feel the need to add anything.

>>64833031
clearly I'm a different person, you dunce

>>64833033
Nice taqiyya

>>64832873
Based

>>64832503
Why would you say so?
>>64832549
There are some beans in my blood yes, but regardless I'm not here to larp nor fulfill stereotypes, I only wish to seek the truth and pursue it after finding it, even if it means I'm the only one in the pews wearing a sombrero and poncho.
>>64831520
Certainly convenient to be self-ruling in some respects, though I wouldn't say it makes them any less susceptible to corruption nor would our corrupt nature invalidate Catholicism's entire being. The Israelites (God's chosen people to lead by example mind you) of the Old Testament for example had their fair share of low points, but these low points do not refute the Lord's will, rather it only showcases our vulnerability and need for Him.
>>64831684
>"Orthodoxy is as close as you can get to the original church."
Have any video(s) on the matter?
>>64832239
You too if you don't mind.

Thanks.

>>64831544
>50 shades of heretic cope
You’re almost as bad as the raghead shilling for the orthodogs.
TURN TO CHRIST
RETVRN TO ROME
COME HOME YOU PRODIGAL FAGGOT NIGGER RETARD

man who would have thought this religionbait thread would have devolved into off-topic religious shitflinging.

the "go to church to find a trad submissive gf" psyop did irreparable damage to 4chan.

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you guys sure are serious about religion

>>64828959
Disney owns the rights to your "gods" lmao

>>64833432
>"go to church to find a trad submissive gf"
I did this and found this. You didn't and found nothing. I don't know what to tell you anon, you miss 100% of the shots you are to lazy and blackpilled to take

>>64833506
Not him, but I go to church because it's actually the truth. The waifu is a side effect, though I do love her and my children greatly.

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>all of these pedo death cult muhammadeen pigs on my board
Fuck off pedophile apologist scum.

>>64827013

Greek orthodox
Pic related

This thread has gone to shit.
>>64833724
Nice oak.

>>64833209
Because it's irrational for tradition to have the same authority as the word of God. It might be useful for interpretation, but it shouldn't be treated as the be-all end-all like the Catholics and Orthodox do, and I think you can dismiss them both as being in error on that basis.

>>64833696
Well that's a matter of course anon

>>64833760
>tradition
>stand up
>sit down
>kneel
>sing
>repeat
Hope I don't go to Hell for getting the order wrong.

>Catholic
>Beretta Px4
>>64830493
I don't mean this as an insult, but you're an actual default skin
>>64828168
>Discordian
I didn't realize you guys existed off of /x/

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Tempted by this just this morning. Found it while researching the "Ice Out" pins worn at the grammys (I did not watch). We all want to display an emblem of our beliefs. The Rememberance Poppies in UK, a crossed Stars and Stripes with the Star of David flag, a "Fuck the Man" thing for the rebelous youth. Anthing that shows what we stand for. The Chi Rho lapel pin tempts me.
https://www.zazzle.com/gold_chi_rho_lapel_pin-256879531177587526

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>>64833851
I am not the pin wearing type but I did put a St. Benedict medal decal on the back window of my truck.

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>>64833875
Thus is the exact emblem display I mean. From a Van Halen tee to a "From my dead cold hard" bumper sticker to tattoos as a form of "psychic armor". We are disposed to self-identify our enthusiasm. A more oblique aspect were the inner city youths and their boomboxes, establishing a "sonic territorial ownership". They didn't have property, but they could own the park or street corners with thier audio pee scents territoial markers. I don't bumper sticker my cars and trucks for a more covert lifestyle, but do have 20 "Right Wing Extremist" stickers in my cart for random tagging.

>>64833724
Based as fuck

>>64833209
Rather than give you any videos, I just ask that you read the Church fathers.
Should that be too much of a task, just check "What did the Church fathers say about X."
If but one book you choose to read, consider the Confessions of Saint Augustine (I recommend the Sheed translation from the 1940s).
Us moderns are going to give you our skewed views, see what those closer in time to the apostles have to say.
In reading the Church fathers and their practices, it's quite hard to remain protestant.

>>64833957
>white american living in america feels the need for 'psychic armor'

how much of your anger at the world is derived from screencaps of tweets and news headlines?

>>64834114
>need for 'psychic armor'
>how much of your anger at the world is derived from screencaps of tweets and news headlines?
Zero. I heard that term used to describe tattoos. I have none. But point out that Mormons will wear "holy underware", Muslims wrap their wounds with pages from the Quran and Indians eat cow dung. None of which is relevant... or is it? But, no. No anger on my part, just dismay for the qts who mark up thier bodies. I am not looking forward to their bad choices aging.

>>64827013
Makarov, greek orthodox

>>64833760
You're correct, if tradition if rated too highly then it's easy for one to become like the Pharisees, however I do have to wonder if your accusation is true and if yes, if there is nuisance to it.
>Corruption
Went over that in my previous comment.
>Different sects
Apparently, there's different flavors of Catholicism and the Orthodoxy, perhaps some of them fit the bill while others do not.
>Protestant "shyness?"
Not saying we're all like this, but I've noticed that when "tradition" is mentioned, Protestants tend to get awfully defensive and love to shoo away church traditions entirely.
Regardless, I certainly have a lot to look into, please pray for me.
>>64834029
Thanks for the insight, you have any particular church fathers you would recommend that I should especially look into? (aside from Saint Augustine, he's been on my radar for quite a while now)

>>64834742
People from the Greek parish in my town always show up in my church during coffee hour to eat our food kek

>>64834029
On the contrary I find numerous of them refused icon veneration, were married, and issues of faith were tackled by open debate rather than papal decree.

>>64835000
>Not saying we're all like this, but I've noticed that when "tradition" is mentioned, Protestants tend to get awfully defensive and love to shoo away church traditions entirely.
That's because all the Protestants you know are Baptists.

>>64835000
>Not saying we're all like this, but I've noticed that when "tradition" is mentioned, Protestants tend to get awfully defensive and love to shoo away church traditions entirely.
That's because it's inherent in their spirit of rebellion, they just dump things because it's easier that way. It's the inertial direction of protestantism. Research the early days of protestantism, much of it was done cynically as a political move to gain more power by local rulers, not from some genuine desire
>Regardless, I certainly have a lot to look into, please pray for me.
Good luck buddy!

>>64835252
>political move to gain more power
The Lutherans and Anglicans have lost thier way, too.

>>64834540
I mean this in the nicest possible way, anon, but you sound like a sexually frustrated nutcase who loves to hear himself talk

>>64835219
>were married,
You realize there are many Catholic priest that are married in the Eastern Catholic Churches and Anglican Ordinariate, right? It's mostly Latin Rite priests that cannot be married.

>>64835710
>You realize there are many Catholic priest that are married
No there aren't.
>anglican
I think I have more respect for the devil infested dens of communism in Georgia and Russia that have icons of Stalin than for any Anglican. That goes doubly so for meme Anglo-Catholics. Literally just not Catholic because their king centuries ago wanted an illegal divorce. Wow, what a beautiful and valid church tradition.
>Eastern Catholic
What makes them Eastern Catholic and not Catholic? Is it the part where they're not Catholic?

>oh uh yeah we're so proud to be part of the one church that is so important
>also we're just gonna ignore all the rules we don't like
I'm proud to announce I am an Anabaptist Catholic. I don't believe in infant baptism, icon veneration, or the papacy. But I slapped Catholic in the name so you just have to accept it ok?

>>64835223
Understandable to assume that, I should've been more clear, apologies: By "we're" I was referring to all flavors of Protestants, and while some of them were Baptists, I've seen others as well both in-person and (mostly) online.
>>64835252
Thank you.

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>>64827013
>Greek Orthodox
>I don't carry at church because the bishop told us not to and I'm pretty sure if somebody kills me at church I go to heaven automatically at least I hope so

>>64835042
The more the merrier. I started cooking for mine. I'm new to the church though so I figured cooking is the least I can do. Plus they seem to like my baked ziti.

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>>64827013
Christian, nondenom. I try to maintain “mere Christianity”.
Glock 43 in a pocket holster. It conceals well, which is what I want.
I’m boring.

>>64835855
Predictable

>>64835855
Generic Christian, Generic gun
fitting

>>64835323
>t. Mormon

>>64835741
>No there aren't.
I went to a divine liturgy celebrated by a Ukrainian Catholic priest. He's married. There are more Sui Iuris Churches under the Catholic umbrella than the Roman one. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about.
> Literally just not Catholic because their king centuries ago wanted an illegal divorce. Wow, what a beautiful and valid church tradition.
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
The Anglican Ordinariate is a group that has reunited with the Catholic Church and are entirely separate from the Anglican "Church."
>What makes them Eastern Catholic and not Catholic? Is it the part where they're not Catholic?
You could have spent 2 seconds to google this.
Not gonna spoonfeed you.
TLDR you have no clue what you're talking about and nobody should take what you say seriously.

>>64836709
Sorry I disagreed about your not-Catholics not being Catholic. But that's why they're not called Catholics.

>>64836756
If they are in communion with Rome and submit to the authority of the Pope they are indeed Catholic. Sorry you are unable to do 5 minutes of research on the organizational structure of the Catholic Church.

>>64836797
>submit to the authority of the pope
>ignore canon law
literally pick one.

>>64836800
Are you referring to priests being married? Because that is only in the Roman Church (which is 1 of 24 Sui Iuris Churches that make up the Roman Catholic Church).

>>64836808
>only the Roman church
>making up 1.3 billion people has that rule
>my church of twelve guys doesn't follow it because like, we're built different
not Catholic.

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>>64836813
Well, I've attempted to explain in good faith the simple reality of Eastern Catholic Churches (which are indeed Catholic and in communion with Rome and the Papacy) but you are either trolling or are too stubborn to accept reality.
Have a good day, and may you one day act charitably towards our Catholic brothers by ceasing to engage in falsehood and lies.
Dominus Tecum.

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>>64836813
classic example of the dumbest individuals always being the first to denounce others

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>>64835855
43 is slept on. Easy to conceal, aim, and reload than any J-frame. Plus, the ammo selection of 9mm vs 38sp is laughable. Revolver cucks need to sit this one out…in a chair in the corner.

>>64831332
ive left 2-3 churches for this exact reason. orthodoxy would be the ticket

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>>64837127
Your reasoning WOULD be solid, except... Why would you carry a G43 when you can get a 9mm with way more capacity that is exactly the same size? The "micro 9" class made the G43 obsolete by being the same size and width with 3 to 4 extra rounds.

>>64836829
He likely doesn’t even know what Catholic means.

Rare janny W for cleaning up the trash while also not deleting a quality thread.

>>64837248
Should have left the part where the Muslim freely admits he'd lie about his beliefs, profess faith in Christ even, without a second thought and it wouldn't matter at all.

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>>64831282
R E T V R N

>>64833724
muslims are like troons where they will advertise the fact they are not normal as a point of pride

>>64831282
I genuinely cannot think of a worse response to being accused of LARPing.

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>A gen 1 LCP
>High Church Continuing Anglican

>>64829326
>Shiite Lutheranism
>still based though

>>64831332
Any Global Methodist Church affiliated parishes near you? Could be a good fit if you genuinely think Wesleyanism is cool but they need to dial it back with the rainbows and parades.

>>64832772
>Mainline Protestants
>TFW the people who actually believe in God haven't been mainline since the 1960s.
Its an abstract sort of feel.

>>64832846
>>64832873
Antiochian Orthodox parishes in the US are almost always English speaking converts, so they can also be a good jumping in point. Bonus points if they use St. Tikhon's liturgy, as it comes out of tridentine English liturgies and will probably feel more familiar.

>>64835741
The Church in England existed prior to the Romans sending a bishop to start one, and it kind of kicked off a few centuries of bad blood. Much like in Greece, Antioch, and Rome, the local Christian expression had its local customs. Unlike most of the Continent, the church in England reasserted its autocephaly and made the local monarch its head and defender, which was common practice in Orthodox kingdoms. It was likely his refusal to get rid of Episcopal rule for fear of losing apostolic succession in the COE that got Charles I executed by Cromwell. The entire point of the Oxford Movement in the 19th century was that the English church nearly tossed out the apostolic baby with the papist bathwater in the 16th and 17th centuries and cleaved too hard to Calvinist reformed beliefs.
>TLDR; its a fractious basket case like everyone else's denomination, but you vaguely know about it because we do all our fighting in English.

>>64839029
>High Church Anglican
Follow Saint Newman's example saar...

>>64839029
Kino

>>64835855
>>64837127
the G43 has terrible capacity for its size. the hellcat and other micro compacts shit all over it in capacity. I really don't know how glock managed to fit so few rounds into the magazine on this thing. it's a pretty good looking gun with the pinky extension, I will give it that.
t. G43 owner
I regret not at least getting a 43x

>>64831282
If you actually cared about Orthodox theology and tradition, you would have joined a Greek Orthodox church. The Moscow Patriarchate is nothing more than a puppet of the Russian government these days. Kirill is completely unsuited to being a Patriarch and has done significant damage to the unity of the Orthodox Church. You only joined a Russian Orthodox church because it's a "based and trad" alternative to Western Christianity. You are a LARPer.

>>64829089
If you're the guy I think you are, you're a cool guy. I want a USP now because of your vid.
>Gondola stays home
Get him a pair of travel pants w/ a loop and a carabiner. Have Gondola Will Travel
>>64829326
>RAMI
Based. Miss my steel babby. Had to let it go quite some time ago.
>>64830493
Get a 43X bro. It's an straight upgrade. Only thing it can't do is take 43 mags.
>>64832536
It pisses me off that IWI made the slides two-piece. Zero reason to do that other than maybe save money on manufacturing. I don't care about being Spike with the railless models, just bring back the original slides.
>>64835789
>caliber shitposting
>"m-my bishop told us not to so I don't"
Just .45 AARP things. Don't listen to him on matters of personal security. What is he, a fucking guard? He gonna bounce the shooter out with his pecs?
>64838606
>t. gaytheist
I would love to see a comprehensive list of how many of you niggers use "no God no law lol" as casus belli to touch kids. It will never happen, because you cowards only profess your faithless religion of "just let me put things in my ass dooood" online where you can't get your head basketballed off the pavement, but still. A real man can dream.

>>64827013
wow op you have guns, go to church, AND you stack le silver??? u r so based and trad dude, who is your favorite fictional child? you should meet the lord by killing yourself.

>>64841595
this guy definitely sips cum at karl's church

>>64841598
You're a faggot that posts about youtubers and jizz all day on the internet.

>>64841618
does that make you a pedophile who posts about fictional children all day?

>>64828735

You do church in the dark?

>>64841659
No. We did when I was a kid, we would have been killed otherwise. But I'm an American now, so that's no problem.

>>64841708
>>64841659
wait nvm you were just joking about the lights weren't you. I thought you invaded my memories or something for a minute there, freaked me out man.

>>64841657
you seem to know more about it than me

>>64832772
I’m here with you my Westminster brother.

OPC to PCA.

Shield 9mm, now mostly carry a Bodyguard 2.0

>>64837127
>>64840973
I like my G43 and I’m comfortable shooting it but I’ll readily admit it was quickly rendered obsolete. I got it within a year after it came out, the original silver slide 43X, 48, and even the P365 weren’t even on the market yet IIRC. Going to a 19 is on my to do list now that department used gen 5s are turning up everywhere.

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>>64832772
>Presbyterian
Here I am.

>>64840973
>the G43 has terrible capacity for its size. the hellcat and other micro compacts shit all over it in capacity. I really don't know how glock managed to fit so few rounds into the magazine on this thing

it just werks thats why. also more rounds = more weight and 6 is fine for a pocket gun.

>>64842872
>calling the G43 a pocket gun
I have a hellcat, same size, same weight unloaded. It's barely pocketable and it's not the weight of 5 extra rounds that is the problem it's the height, it can be done and only if I wear the right pants. If you want a single stack 9mm pocket gun, the PF-9 is choice, since it's 7+1, lighter, and about 1/4" narrower than a G43. I never should have sold my old PF-9 when I got my shield years ago.

>>64842917
the g43 with the flush mag fits in most pockets assuming you arent wearing loose sweatpants or slim fit jeans. its definitely the cutoff for pocket carry size ill admit.

>>64841595
>>64841618
>>64841659
Niggerfaggot, kys

>>64841708
Do you guys have like a temple here in the US that you go to? I've never met one of yall irl.

>>64842979
Yes. Most are in California, where people wound up after the revolution in Iran.
>I've never met one of yall irl
Well, there aren't very many of us. Most who claim to be are Iranian-Americans who just don't want to be Muslim, and that's as deep as it goes. Which is understandable, but not much of a religion