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>>64829736
>die peacefully as a cuck
>get revenge and kys
Which would you choose /k/ and why? We’re going to have a little psych session and lean a thing or two about ourselves.
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>>64829743
If a woman cheats on you then she's a whore, and whores aren't worth dying over. But that's besides the point, the point is Heemeyer was a complete cockbag who thought he should be able to get away with whatever he wanted only to throw the mother of all tantrums once his neighbors and community stopped being overly lenient and permissive towards him.
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>>64829736
His primary complaint was being asked to take care of his poop and piss properly instead of pumping it onto his neighbor's property. Probably one of the most pathetic causes to spaz out over in human history. Still one helluva impressive spaz out though.
>>64829743
There is nothing epic and noble about refusing to install a septic tank or pay for hooking up to the town sewer anon. This isn't India.
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>>64829805
Post gun with timestamp
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>>64834183
That's what I thought outsiders.
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>>64835303
Combination of people who have been fed a steady diet of false information. A lot of people have attempted to rewrite what happened and make him into a villain. Especially the owners of the town who still are corrupt scumbags. The other group are Indians who cannot understand the ideas of morality and individualism. They still pretend that their highest cultural moments were not based on either being controlled by the British or the Muslims. Otherwise it would have collapsed into complete pagan shenanigans the irony being their extremely proud of their culture and believe India as a nation is superior to all others yet desperately all want to flee and turn their host Nations into little India's. When the Muslims pushed into India to fight the Hindus they had a hell of a time just trying to convince them through the use of a swords that not crap on the street and they failed even the British tried. All their gods are pretty much demons by all other cultural standards
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>>64835332
haha you lolbert fags are still at it. threadly copypasta:
>He bought a couple acres for like $45k, planning an autoshop. Fine.
>Said property did not come with a muni sewer connection. It had no real septic at all either, just an old decaying literal cement mixer previous owners had buried, not up to any standard anywhere in the US. Very normal for mostly unimproved rando land in small rural towns.
>Town responsibility: overall system maintenance, public land.
>Your job: your private connection if you want to connect.
>Town reasonably pointed out he could just do a normal septic system instead. Like I have at my house. It's cheap. Go look it up, even with decades of inflation, massively increased labor costs etc, right now, today, you will pay like $5k-15k for a typical system depending on details of area and land. It's no big deal if you're not a pajeet.
>He refuses to do it, he says government not doing it is "extortion" (lol!), and yet he continues his voluntary, unnecessary request to get annexed to the sewer district anyway. Like, wtf you fucking retard?
>Everyone lets him be anyway and years go by. He builds a muffler business.
>Neighbors want to build their own business. He goes NIMBY. They offer to buy his. He says he wants $250k. They say ok. He changes his mind and wants another 50%. They offer $350k. No, now he wants a half mil. They give up.
>Neighbors address public noise/environment concerns like normal. He squanders all potential support. Town planning process democratically ultimately approves commercial development, in this commercial area.
>He appeals on lies, and then sues.
>They offer to settle, to pay for his sewer hookup themselves.
>His shitty buried truck overflows. He just goes and pumps raw sewage into an irrigation ditch behind him on someone else's land. Tries to illegally just leech onto another neighbor's line.
>9 years after being supposed to do this basic thing of taking care of his shit, starts getting fines.
>Spergout
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>>64835340
>(cont)
>This isn't fucking India. The most simple above-animal thing in the world is to take care of your own poop and piss and not pump it onto your neighbor's land. Actually that's too generous because even some animals like cats know how to bury their shit and be inconspicuous about it. Everyone repeatedly bent over for the stupid fucker, not fining him promptly, offering to buy him out at 800% or more what he paid for the land despite it still being subcode, offering to take care of the problem for free. He refused out of sheer lolbertarian spite and invented grievance and because people like that see any form of generosity as weakness and somehow an insult. It's why any code violations should ideally be enforced hard and immediately because if you let leeches get comfortable and have more time they're never, ever grateful for it, they just get entitled.
>>IF DA GUBMINT SAYS I HAVE TO DEAL WITH MY SEWAGE THAT'S A "FORM OF TERRORISM"
lmao lol even
>Killdozer was still cool from a mechanic and sheer autism perspective but there was nothing admirable about how it came about, what led up to it, or him just taking the easy way out and going to hell afterwards.
cope and seethe zoomers. heemeyer did something impressive. but he was a gigafaggot chimpbrain too.
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>>64835303
It's the people who looked into the actual facts of the case and learned his entire dispute with the town was over being asked to stop shitting in a hole in the ground (later amended to stop dumping literal shit on your neighbor's property) and a different neighbor having a successful business. Between spreading his effluence in public, seething at more successful people, and scammy behavior Martin Heemeyer was intellectually, emotionally, and spiritually a jeet. His death even involves a large moving object for extra Punjabi points.
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>>64835343
I take issue with this copypasta. Heemeyer wasn't working on libertarian beliefs but some kind Catholic martyrdom/apocalypticism mentality.
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>>64835349
He bought a bulldozer to put in the sewer line. He tried to work with them on every level they just wanted his property. If you've ever dealt with one of these little small corrupt towns which I unfortunately have when one of their cousins or brother-in-laws wants your property they will do everything in their power to bug you. They make up BS reasons, you just don't understand how these little towns work. They're usually run by one or two families who are so incest and corrupt the police chief oh he's the brother of the mayor the city council members are all related. And then they decide hey we can make some money off some new person who just moved in who bought a piece of property and then they spend years harassing you until you leave. I had it happen to me so don't give me your BS that these little towns always make up excuses.
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>>64835349
Hilariously people even offered repeatedly to just take care of it for him after he became such a fucking pain in the ass. He filed a meritless nimby lawsuit about another business expanding, and then his threats actually effectively worked because they offered to just pay for the entire sewer line themselves if he'd stop harassing them. He could have just gotten everything for free, and that would have been it for any fines too. Instead he said no out of sheer spite, took the case until the end, and lost in court.
>>64835361
This is possibly a fair point anon. Though you have to admit a lot of "libertarians" are actually lolberts not actually seriously committed to the values even when the outcome is one they don't like.
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>>64835364
He bought the bulldozer 10 years after he was first told he needed to install septic or get on city sewage. Said bulldozer was bought only 3 months before he closed his muffler shop, and he immediately tried to flip it. A year later he sold his property and then re-leased the building to make the Killdozer. He also continued dumping his shit in his neighbor's irrigation ditch despite the new owners installing a sewage connection the first day. You don't get to claim the government is out to get you when you demand they annex you into their jurisdiction, demand special treatment, refuse any alternative even when said government flatout tells you it'd be perfectly legal and cheaper than your original plan, spend years engaged in constant lawfare against a neighboring business to prevent them from expanding their business to the point of getting the federal government involved, engage in blatantly illegal actions like dumping raw shit on your neighbor's property or trying to make a hidden connection to your neighbor's sewage lines so you can use their service, then after 10 years of actually getting special treatment by literally everyone involved the government sits your ass down and fines you less than $3000 dollars. And while we're at it, sewage lines aren't installed with a bulldozer.
>>64835366
Calvinist, actually. Heemeyer also had beef with the local Catholic Church because they opposed legalizing gambling.
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>>64835443
https://youtu.be/TqEA5DPoEMY blow it out your ass you have no proof you're just pulling crap out here's a literal documentary you son of a biscuit.
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>>64835523
The nets getting closer to you baby eating Satan worshipers no wonder you're scared the scared of a million killdozers coming with God's judgment the fiery sword of Michael is coming better flee into your bunkers
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>>64835364
I live in and have a small business in a small town and this is pretty bullshit, if anything it's the opposite. Small towns have zilch government budget, often no local law enforcement at all and depend on state police showing up (which will only happen after many hours and only if someone is like, literally murdered). Selectman is either purely volunteer or paid a pittance, meet a few times a month at most. And that's it. Every town (including ours) has at least a few absolute jackasses, crazy loons, lolberts, or whatever who nobody really wants to deal with, in part precisely because there aren't much in the way of formal structures and lots of slack. So people can get away with a LOT, for a long time, until they truly truly force things.
Which is precisely what happened in Heeymeyer's case. In no city would you be able to get away with that crap with zero enforcement for a fucking decade. And of course that's part of the freedom of living in nowheresville. But conversely you're not anonymous and other people value THEIR freedom and property rights as well. It's not the city, people count on at least some effort from everyone. If you want to be a total asshole and burn all your bridges eventually it might come back to bite you.
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>>64835539
NTA
Jesus was falsely persecuted by a corrupt and evil world, same with the apostles
if you want to learn about justice and truth and what good actions look like you should listen to this
its only 90 minutes and even shorter on 1.25 speed
also never be afraid to pray to God and ask for guidance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g
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>>64835539
>the anti-septic system anon is revealed to be a complete schizo
many such cases
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>>64827243
Not possible with todays 1000% increase in police budget.
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>>64835639
You can dig the divas hold and hide in them with the thickest steel walls but God's judgment will come for you and you can't stop it.
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>>64835729
Matthew 7:1-5
>>64835736
Matthew 24:36
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>>64827243
Better music video https://youtu.be/nRY5OKhSm3Q?si=gLLGdeDWNeonUjLx
I stumbled upon this one comic about Marv recently. It's probably one of the more balanced accounts of Marv that I've read because the author actually lives in Granby and interviewed residents who knew him. Some people were completely on his side and thought he was the nicest guy ever, some thought both he and the town were dickheads, while others hate him. https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/dozer-manifesto/list?title_no=27014 3
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>>64835795
People try to white wash it or forget because he lucked out, but at the end of the day worth remembering the dude did in fact actually shoot at people during his little rampage. And it's not like he gave everyone a heads up to evacuate. He demolished structures that had people in them and were evac'd with seconds to spare. He didn't end up killing anyone due to missing and getting lucky, but not because he planned on not killing anyone. He wasn't justified in that at all, putting aside the heavy damages. Pretty conclusive that he was an asshole.
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>>64835819
>Those poor little Satanist eating babies they're not that bad they even eat them with a good barbecue sauce now they're evil homes are destroyed oh how sad let us all cry how dare anyone do anything boo hoo hoo boo hoo hoo.
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>>64835819
The comic I linked to goes over it, but even people who sympathized with Marv were traumatized by the rampage. Marv was a transplant and didn't realize the significance of some of the buildings he demolished. The library was a place that everyone had gone to since they were kids. Gambles was a place that everyone in the town shopped at. Also, he still killed one person: himself. Plenty of people in the town liked him and were sad he was dead.
Fuck the newspaper though. It wasn't just that they were biased against Marv, it was a shitty gossip rag that would regularly humiliate other residents by reporting on minor arrests and fines they faced even if it was newsworthy.
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>>64835914
>Fuck the newspaper though. It wasn't just that they were biased against Marv, it was a shitty gossip rag that would regularly humiliate other residents by reporting on minor arrests and fines they faced even if it was newsworthy.
OK, and as a moral judgement I'm 100% in agreement. However, that doesn't justify physical destruction/assault/attempted murder. The country has always been full of shitty rags and tabloids. I mean damn, look we are! 4chan isn't the internet's biggest hive of scum and villainy and gossip but some of the folks in this place are up there. Doesn't mean it's not still free speech. Someone can start another paper, criticize all they want, put up signs, pay for advertising etc. Work to win people over, who were pissed too. If it crossed the line to defamation hell yeah sue the fuckers. But someone saying legal but shitty stuff is a reality adults just need to deal with. People who do that deserve scorn and maybe some measure of christian pity (though not sympathy), because as much as anything it's a display of rot and misery in their own souls. Still just words though.
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You got to love it don't you, they literally come out with literal documents showing that the leader eating babies and you can see in this case God is with this man and obviously their baby eating politicians and scum but hey with bare heads in the sand and pretend that everyone's a good guy and that no one's baby eating even though the FBI saying their baby eating. God you guys are dumb and so God damn supportive of the satanic agenda. And then it don't do anything because God but you know God is going to judge us all and I'm going to see all you guys and you're not going to listen and you ain't going to listen because you're not listening because you're so ridiculous
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>>64835929
I don't think we're really in disagreement Anon. I said that even though people point to how Marv didn't kill anyone besides himself, the people of Granby have said that the rampage was traumatizing because of how he demolished a lot of buildings that had sentimental meaning to them, and how a lot of them were sad over Marv's death. All I said that if there was any of targets that don't deserve sympathy, it's the newspaper.
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>>64836621
oddly specific anon. but yeah it would have been fresher then. the case is ancient. it's been gone over a billion times on /k/. the ruts are well worn my dude. dunno what more you expect. guy bringing in that comic is a little fresher then the last few times I guess, good to point out that only extremists go
>"oh it's JUST property, it's JUST history"
as if people don't actually care about their community property and history. but also that yeah if you move to a small community you gotta work pretty hard to fit in or at least not stand out in a bad way and if it doesn't work out be prepared to leave cuz ain't no anonymity