>>64829694
Yes.

>>64829700
Ok thanks

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>>64829694
your pic is the robber not the cop

>>64829694
Its just a movie, lots of flash and little reality. Cops go wild shooting and hiding behind civilian vehicles all the time. Look at vids of the cops shooting the driver of the USP truck who was taken hostage. Three cops shot up civilian vehicles killing some trapped driver and killing the UPS guy. If you want to see what a real shootout looks like watch the vids on the Bank America shootout in LA.

>>64829694
At a random bank robbery? No. But they were there to arrest the robbers who had killed previously, and the moment their cover was blown it turned into a mass shooting.

>>64829694
the detectives went there based on intel that a bank robbery was about to occur. They happened to run into the robbers on the street, at which point the robbers shoot first. They simply got unlucky with the timing. The beat cops are responding only to what they know is a crazy shootout downtown.

>>64829694
Go and look at some of the early mass shooting incidents. They just had whatever local beat cop or sherriff responded with their revolvers and shotguns out, taking cover behind vehicles.
And, more importantly, that was the image that got shown on national television of those incidents.

Also, that movie was years and years before every local SWAT team started to cosplay as the 10th DEVGRU Delta Rangers and then missed the house on their latest prank call to no-knock raid a DoTA streamer.
Back then showing the cops actually responding in some competent way must've been pretty impressive, just like how the robbers act tactically instead of doing 80s action hero 'from the hip' posing.

>>64829960
>that movie was years and years before every local SWAT team started to cosplay as the 10th DEVGRU Delta Rangers
swat teams have always been larpers, in the era when SOF were wearing BDUs and tac vests, so were they.

>>64829967
Nope, solid black and blue.

It's a realistic fuckup for the cops to get too clever by half and let some criminals they have under surveillance do a major crime and then confront them at the worst possible time instead of arresting them the next time they go to a liquor store or something.

>>64829975
The all black/dark blue tactical gear and masks never served a purpose beyond looking cool. Police officers being identified and ambushed in their homes stopped being a realistic threat around the time prohibition ended.

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>>64829694
I know it's hard for cucked "countries" to imagine an armed society like this but once criminals start blasting all bets are off

>>64829694
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

>>64829888
What about when a cop went nuts and started unloading his gun into a street just because he heard an acorn hit a car?
He also tried to do a retarded 'commando roll'

>>64829888
>USP truck
I would like to know more.

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>>64829975
>Columbine
Sure looks black and blue to me
>inb4 the beat cop

>>64829694
>but would cops really just have had carte blanche to go in blasting on a city street?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Empire_State_Building_shooting
>When confronted by the two officers, Johnson raised his weapon, but didn't fire. The officers fired with a total of 16 rounds, killing Johnson and injuring nine bystanders, none of whom suffered life-threatening wounds. Two officers had discharged their weapons, Craig Matthews fired off seven rounds, and Robert Sinishtaj fired off nine rounds, neither had discharged their weapons on patrol before.[11] Three of the bystanders were directly hit by police gunfire, while the rest of the injuries were caused by fragments of ricocheting bullets, or by debris from other objects hit by police

There was also a more recent case of cops chasing after a fare evader on the subway, he pulled out a knife so they magdumped at a crowded subway car, taking down a number of civilians and one cop in the process.

So yeah, they can and will go blasting on crowded streets, and not give any fucks. In fact, I would say the level of caution shown in movies is wildly inaccurate.

Only if the script demands them to.

>>64833772
Well first he got giga cucked and then his mothers death followed, most modern men would require only one to do them in.

>>64829694
Nah, this would never be approved exactly because of what happens in the movie. If cops were planning to grab these guys, they wouldn't be doing so on a street at noon. Just flashbang the shit out of them at 4 AM in their safe house.
It's the same reason why most non-retarded PDs do not do police chases now. Way safer to just arrest the guy later.

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>>64829694
>but would cops

I know you're trolling, and baiting for recordings, but I'll indulge.

jamie pull up the 2019 miami dade shootout footage

>>64834261
>reposting AI slop

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>>64829960

peak vintage swat aesthetic

>>64829694
>>64829694

In the US cops are extremely reckless and indifferent to the risks their actions put on the public. This applies more frequently to car chases but also for squeezing off rounds in crowded areas.

As a notable example, Florida cops fired 221 rounds in 25 seconds at a pair of jewelry store robbers in stand-still rush-hour traffic. In addition to the two dead thieves, cops killed the driver of the carjacked UPS truck and bystander on the sidewalk. You can see in videos cops using occupied vehicles as cover while firing wildly at the van.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Miramar_shootout

US cops will absolutely mag dump with zero regard for the safety of the public (and eachother, police friendly fire is common) the moment they hear gunfire, see a gun, or imagine they see a gun.

>>64829960
>just like how the robbers act tactically instead of doing 80s action hero 'from the hip' posing
kind of a side topic, but ive always wondered when and how the shift occured where nowdays action heroes actually kinda aim (at least long guns) instead of hip spraying.

>>64829694
For the shit these guys were doing? ABSOLUTELY. Certain "people" cry about "militarized police" but sending men to fight these types of threats with just handguns and lv3a soft armor would lead to your city paying out a fuckton of life insurance. The 1920's was the first shock in policing as prohibition combined with Irish/Italian immigrant criminals getting armed with modern weapons forcing police to upgrade to Thompsons and BAR's. This was withdrawn in the 30's to 50's and restarted in the 60's and coming to a head in the 90's. The "War on Terror" simply meant that the government had tons of surplus equipment to dump on to police departments.

>>64833772
>being so unloved that you can't comprehend loss
Wew lad.

>>64834891
Over the years I think it varied from region to region/dept. to dept. kinda like how isoceles vs. weaver developed, etc. but overall it ended around the 90s mostly.
There was a cool excerpt from a book I read years ago about a early fast reaction (before the term SWAT I guess) team in the '80s in Miami who had full auto 10/22s they used to bullet hose people with because it was so controllable in f/a, but I've never seen the page/book since.

>>64834878
>one incident
>in one state
>in one shootout
You faggots are so stupid it's honestly a minor miracle you survived childhood.

>>64834932
>it's honestly a minor miracle you survived childhood.

Yeah, fortunately I wasn't near any cops that got spooked by their own shadow and started blasting in every direction.

>>64834914
Neat historical footnote: most cops in America wear blue due to most departments' uniforms beginning as post civil war Union surplus.

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>>64832010
>What about when a cop went nuts and started unloading his gun into a street just because he heard an acorn hit a car?
>He also tried to do a retarded 'commando roll'
Ahahaha holy fuck was that hilarious.

>>64834929
im talking about depictions in movies, pal

>>64834891
Hip firing or quick firing or whatever the hell you want to call it was an actual military technique taught from introduction of SMGs as far as to the '70s or '80s. Always moving at high ready and aiming down sights is a relatively new invention.

>>64835029
>1975-1921=54
>2026-1975=51
>a relatively new invention
Not so much, even by that reasoning

>>64834878
They have to be a bit crazy, because US criminals are the same way. If a US cop is not at all times ready for a firefight, he's going to get killed in a routine traffic stop.

>>64829694
Biggest failure of the last third of the film: no consequences for Pacino going cowboy mode 1 man SWAT, and the scale of the shootout. Pacino's faceturn on his stepdaughter doesn't have a good enough setup; the coke habit and can't wife aren't either. He should be suspended and going to that airport on a deathwish, after doing his own intel before the department can react. Both of them had to be shot and bleeding out on the tarmac for it to be a tragedy— at best, roll Pacino's ventilated ass next to the suicidal stepdaughter whom he wakes up to for a softer ending.

>>64832041
>this entire post
so glad i live in slavland instead of america, fucking hell

>>64829694
Couple things, former cop here.
>Yes, we could do that
>But it is discouraged
>At some point command would take over that scene was chaos

Pretty much that is how it went with the LA bank robbery. Some cops shot at the guys then it turned into a bunch just slinging lead. Didn't have ARs and stuff though so 0 damage.

And besides who is going to stop them? They've the cops. And also if someone is yelling to stop blasting everybody be like
>sorry bro couldn't hear you I was blasting

>>64832010
>>64834952
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FlhILwy52f0

>>64834635
How badly rinsed would these guys get if they went up against their 2026 counterparts?

>>64829750
Was probably gonna say that if it was a cop they wouldn't go apeshit shooting random people like crazy fireworks in July

>>64836397

Hard to say. Back in the 70s some SWAT teams were actually issued hand grenades, like actual frag grenades. I'd say those are a lot more useless than a flashbang.

>>64834940
You'd have to leave mommy's basement for more than 5 minutes to ever encounter a police officer so that isn't a flex.

>>64832035
Looks like he's getting it on

>>64834261
What's his stand called?

>>64829694
>had carte blanche
In english, doc

>>64836884
"Blank paper" in french, symbolising freedom to do whatever without pre-set rules.

>>64834914
>The 1920's was the first shock in policing as prohibition combined with Irish/Italian immigrant criminals getting armed with modern weapons forcing police to upgrade to Thompsons and BAR's.

Fun fact: the first VBIED terrorist attack in history was carried out by Italian anarchists in New York in 1920 and was the capstone of a six-year bombing campaign that ended up killing ~50 people and injuring hundreds.

>>64836884
Carte blanche is common English vocabulary. Don't they teach you anything in schools anymore other than how to cut your dick off?

>>64836862
「COLD AS ICE」