It always worked, its the price on munitions that always got way crazy

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For fucks sake, it would have actually beeen useful for firing over cover 10 years ago but you can't convince me the muzzle velocity is high enough to reliably proximity trigger on drones.

I am 100% convinced those faggy buttons forward of the trigger will become inoperable within a week of actual combat use.

>>64830136
They hired nintendo to make the buttons.

>>64830121
This, wasn't the OICW well recived by the troops but the brass wasn't keen on it?

so basically what they've made is the 40k bolter but without the armor piercing?

>>64830411
I believe it was the XM25 that was well received.
OICW was always comically bulky.
(GREAT weapon in Red Faction 2 though. Then again it's NANO-ENHANCED SUPERSOLDIERS wielding it)

fwiw, a 30mm grenade should be a bit cheaper than a 25mm grenade thanks to a bit less miniaturization

>still making stuff like this in an era of drones

>>64830663
well half the video seemed to be showing off it could take out drones

Did any of you every play BF2142?
The rifle rockets in that were sick. You would lase enemy cover to set the distance then scroll your mouse two clicks to set the detonation for 2m past and then fire them over the cover and take out that faggot sniper.

>>64830663
>era of drones
Fuck off retard

>>64830117
You guys thought it was dumb when China did it. I always thought it was a really cool idea to have an actual grenadier again as a niche within a squad. The ability to put explosives, even at a small charge, on target with precision is not a capability that's any less relevant.

>>64831121
They never went away. . .

>>64830663
>era of drones
>not era of ewar

>>64830390
Nintendonium stockpiles ran out over a decade ago, Anon

>>64831121
China's launchers just bruteforced a payload with way higher energy out without any provisions for programmable smart rounds. The Type 87 is brutal to shoot and is a weird missing link between Milkor MGL and a Mk19, it only barely can be fired by one man and it needs a crew anyway.

>>64830117
Didnt the last one blow up on a Ranger? Hopefully the solved the issue.

>>64830117
i super hope so i think there is big potential in semi auto grenade launchers but my question is is 25mm big enought for payload capacity? ales i feel xm25 would be better as it wasnt so front heavy being a bullpup
i think there is a lot potential in that german ssw40 because its desgined to use cureently existing 40mm lv and mv ammo

>>64830124
>we made this useless grenade launcher. how do we sell it?

>>64830117
>modern grenadiers
>they don't even get miters
Fucking lame.

>>64830411
>>64830489
XM29 never made it past a prop. XM25 was reviewed favorably the the 101st, but the Rangers said it was too heavy to carry along with an M4 and there was no way in hell any of them were walking into a warzone without a rifle. It wasn't a cost problem, the problem was that at the start of the development, HK was actually owned by a British company, BAE Systems, and halfway through development of the XM29, HK was spun off into an independent company based in Germany, and the German government threw a fit because of muh 19th century arms conventions and exporting warcrime machines. It took the Army years to get the rights to the gun from HK, and in the meantime boomers in Congress were making a stink over the cost and time overruns and some retard who managed to blow up his gun in Afghanistan.

>>64830663
A grenade rifle like this with functioning proximity fuse ammo would probably be better than the current anti drone solution of shotguns and AKs with jank homemade buckshot rounds.

>>64833162
Prox fuses are sensitive as fuck and if you aren't super careful about your masks you will absolutely get a premature airburst if firing over a defilade

>>64831121
China replaces the squad's LMG with their grenade launcher thing due to the size and weight. You can understand why that's a bit different then the squad grenadier having this instead of an M4.

>>64831121
I have been saying it makes sense to fire over cover the whole time, I do think shooting at drones with it is retarded.

>>64830117
It always worked, the idea was sound, functional, and practical... so why didn't it work and receive further funding? Because a bunch of pussies decided exploding projectiles shot from a firearm are considered a war crime much like chemical warfare.

>inb4 muh grenade launcher

It's some bullshit where it has to travel under X fps and grenade launchers stay under the limit.

>>64831121
>chinkshill forgets to mention that chinks think this trash REPLACES LMGS at the squad level
please please please fight a real war please i beg you, it will be so fucking funny

>>64831121
china uses dumb grenades with contact fuses for it and reaplces their LMGs with it, which is absolutely dumb but see you in the next thread where you'll pretend that smart munitions and dumb munitions are the same thing again regardless.

>>64833017
>threw a fit because of muh 19th century arms conventions and exporting warcrime machines.
That sounds like complete bs and I've never seen anything official suggesting "muh warcrimes" was ever relevant for either weapon.
None of the signatories of the petersburg declaration still adhere to that rule, it's why they get to use 40mm.

>>64831121
Chinese OICWs are bolt action, it IS dumb

>>64833266
You really doubt the German capacity for crippling autism?

>>64833266
German point was about engaging unseen enemies behind defilade. That makes weapon indiscriminate because shooter doesn't see target.

>>64833394
You're thinking of the nork OICW knockoff. They're talking about the QLU-11.

>>64830117
>>64830117
It's funny how many people have never shot a gun point at the data and say well grenade launchers are more effective than rifles, why don't we just have all the soldiers armed with AI driven grenade launchers.

>>64834675
Yes because according to autism they don't have to care about it.
Germany never signed the saint petersburg declaration nor are any of its German signatories sovereign states or legal predecessors of germany.
And Germany in fact does not adhere to the declaration.

>>64834777
>>64834777
>engaging unseen enemies behind defilade
Which is also true for any other grenade launcher that the germans use and 40mm grenades, just like the 25mm, are too light according to the st petersburg declaration. Something the krauts don't need to care about.

>>64830663
>era of drones
midwit post, this guy is retarded.

>>64831121
i mean, it's cool, but it's absolutely not worth giving up the squad's LMG for it.

>>64833017
Yeah it's simply not a weapon SF-Light units are going to particularly care for but for line units it's invaluable

>>64833215
smart munitions are a meme