>>64830534
Because rifled slugs are good enuf.

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I'm not sure what you mean. There is nothing new about the idea of rifled shotguns. Picrel is from the late 1800's, these "ball and shot" guns were super popular and all the big name makers of the time had them.

Before then, in the black powder era, rifles existed in "gauges" or "bores" just like a shotgun. Ever wonder why so many old rifles have a bore of .577, which seems like a really strange number for someone to pick? Those are 24-gauge.

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>>64830534
Companies have been selling rifled barrels with cantilever mounts for decades

>>64830564
Aren't the chokes the only rifled part of the paradox guns? And I didn't know that about .577 bore

>>64830624
yeah, decades starting in the late 80s/early 90s. that's why it's weird that no one thought it was an issue earlier

>>64830534
>what is a choke

>>64830638
I don't think most people were using paradox chokes

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>>64830625
>Aren't the chokes the only rifled part of the paradox guns?
Correct. They made fully-rifled guns too, they were just called rifles (or double rifles if they had two barrels) even though they looked like a shotgun.

>>64830628
>decades starting in the late 80s/early 90s
It started long before then. Picrel is from the early 1960's.

>>64830647
Why would we trust your opinion? It's clearly wrong, and it's also obvious you can't be bothered to do even basic research.

>>64830671
the first model deerslayers don't have rifled barrels. They didn't start rifling them until the deerslayer II. The gun is just tighter with rifle sights
https://shoot-on.com/profiles-in-firearms-ithaca-37-deerslayer/
>>64830675
source on paradox chokes being popular, yuronogunz

>>64830688
>source on paradox chokes being popular,
The fact that everybody copied the design as soon as the legally could. Holland & Holland made the Paradox originally, since they were the first to license Fosberry's patent. As soon as that expired all the other big makers jumped on the bandwagon and made their own "ball and shot" guns. Westley Richards had the Explora and the Fauneta, Charles Lancaster called theirs the "Colindian", etc. Today lots of people call removable rifled chokes a "paradox choke", the same way people call any sort of photocopy a "Xerox".

>>64830709
that's not proof they were in common use on American hunting guns

>>64830722
So now you want to move the goalposts from "did they exist at all" to "how common they were in the American hunting scene"? Why didn't you ask that in the first place?

>>64830747
I did, the op post literally talks about American hunting laws and American guns

>>64830534
The 1968 National Firearms Act outlawed rifles over .60 caliber unless they were made before 1890. Not replica - actually made before 1890.
For some reason all on their own the BATF chose not to enforce that on rifled 12 gauges arguing that is wasn't a hard heavy rifle like a single shot autocannon would be. They didn't want stuff capable of hurling an explosive projectile 10 miles in unlicensed civilian hands.
Rifled 12 was allowed to proceed.

>>64831436
I wonder why they changed their mind? technically if you read the DD statute all 12 gauges are DDs but that doesn't get enforced because muh sporting purposes

>>64830534
because rifled shotguns use sabot slugs which weren't very viable before plastic went mainstream in the 50s
rifled slugs were already common use by then and there was no push to develop an alternative any faster

>>64831492
its hard to hunt pheasant with 30-06 and the ruling class enjoys their sport

>>64831744
that plastic thing makes sense. thanks

>>64830534
>Why did it take so long before companies started making rifled shotguns?
Because rifled shotguns that are only used for shooting slugs are called rifles dear retard-kun. It's in the name, shotgun, a gun that shoots shot.

>>64833699
rifled shotgun slug guns are still called and considered shotguns, retardo. multiple companies refer to them as shotguns and they are legally shotguns in the US. I think japan is the only place that considers them rifles