>>64833512
You're brown. Go back >>>/pol/estine

>>64833512
That’s just the free market at work

>On 27 August 2022, Poland's defense minister, Mariusz Błaszczak, said there are ongoing negotiations to acquire South Korea's rocket artillery system.[36] On 13 October 2022, Polish Armament Agency announced that the negotiations with South Korea to acquire nearly 300 K239 Chunmoo systems had been completed and the framework agreement will be signed on October 17.[37][38] Poland had originally intended to procure 500 American M142 HIMARS launchers, but such an order could not be fulfilled in a satisfactory timeline, so decision was made to split the HIMARS order into two stages, buying less of them and adding Chunmoo procurement; the first South Korean launchers are to be delivered in 2023.[39] A supply contract for 288 Chunmoo MLRS mounted on Jelcz 8x8 chassis and equipped with Polish TOPAZ Integrated Combat Management System along with 23 thousand missiles with the range of 80 and 290 kilometers was signed in Poland on October 19, 2022.[40][41] On 20 August 2023, first Homar-K, which completed system integration and testing in South Korea, was deployed to the 18th Mechanised Division of the Polish Land Forces after being delivered to Poland.[42]
They've been supplying poland since before Trump took up office, if that's your insinuation

>>64833512
Or maybe OP you're a turdie:
https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2023-09-11-polands-ministry-of-national-defense-signs-framework-agreement-with-lockheed-martin-for-homar-a-rocket-artillery-system-program
https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2025/08/19/bahrain-himars-order-boosts-gulf-arabs-formidable-rocket-arsenals/
https://thedefensepost.com/2024/06/04/us-army-himars-lockheed/
>LockMart can't keep up with order book being utterly stacked
>Norway wants GMLRS chuckers ASAP in case Russia is more retarded
>Wheeled system that takes existing MLRS pods that doesn't have a fucklong wait

>>64833555
FPBP. also checked

>>64833572
Still a business fuck up. How hard is it to increase HIMARS production like 10x or more 5 years into a war which increased usage and promoted your system?

Sounds like the traitors want some extra tariffs.

>>64833609
>how hard is increasing production by an order of magnitude??
You're too stupid to even understand how retarded you are

2 pods instead of 1
Only a retard would buy a HIMARS in current year

>>64833667
Remind me again, who is it that has to pay those tarriffs?

>>64833681
IDK if its that simple Kim

>>64833512
Its more related to HIMARS not being able to meet the range requirement and price, along with deliverytime.
KNDS' offer failed along similar lines

>>64833671
I'm not naive that it could be done in week or even six months, but it's been 4 years already. You're not starting production from scratch, it's fundamentally easier to scale existing production.

>>64833681
Less pods == easier to maneuver

>>64833512
>What is happening? Why are our "allies" refusing to buy our stuff?
Because HIMARS is sold out for years and
>joint venture producing missiles in Poland, including for the Chunmoo rocket artillery, ensuring manufacturing on European soil.
It's not that complicated. Europe would prefer to buy American hardware, but without that option (because American hardware is sold out) they'd rather invest in European than American production.

Oh so we got bored of domestic agitprop so now we're trying the drive a wedge between US/EU astroturf.

>>64833512
>yuropoors don't have a domestically designed and built artillery missile
>must buy either burger, gook, or jew
How the mighty have fallen

>>64833713
Only if you can't into trucks, the length is the same.

>>64833609
>getting swamped by orders to the point your booked out for years means you failed as a business
Sasuga

>>64833722
I was speaking about width

>>64833719
Always has been, from the very start
The leftists are happy to chip in

>>64833730
40 cm wider than a normal truck isn't a problem unless you're airlifting it with a 1950s plane.

>>64833681
can it reload itself without a support vehicle?

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>>64833780
No if you can't read the instruction manual.

>>64833762
Percentages, dipshit
HIMARS is 8 feet in width, Chunmoo is 9.5 feet, nearly 20% wider

>>64833788
cool

>>64833755
>the left hates Europe
Now who the hell is Jewing who here?

>>64833793
Similar width as most APC and IFV. Unless you're using an ancient Hercules it isn't a problem.

>>64833799
No, Europe is largely left, and the left hates the right

>>64833801
The whole point is that they don't want to have to allocate more transport assets intended for IFVs and tanks to these missile trucks
And yeah the Norwegians only have four, count em, four C130Js

>>64833812
only spain and portugal have left wing coalitions in the eu right now

>>64833831
Overton window
European centre right is normal far left

>>64833822
Why do you think airlift would be a priority even? they already have plenty APCs of similar width. You're trying to force an argument just because the HIMARS is 40 cm narrower.

>>64833844
>Why do you think airlift would be a priority even?
I don't. You brought up airlift. I actually think the issue will be finding wide-load rail and road transporters.
>they already have plenty APCs of similar width
Yes, so it's important not to add further to the already-strained logistics load. Do the math.
>You're trying to force an argument just because the HIMARS is 40 cm narrower
It's one of the key considerations which you overlooked, besides the others mentioned. You're trying to say it's nothing. It's not.

>>64833883
>16 MLRS for a country with 10 times more vehicles of similar size is a problem
Delusional. And I mentioned airlift because it seems to be something important for the US (HIMARS), not so much for other countries.

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Wait until they choose Redback over Lynx, AGAIN.

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>>64833512
Oh a whole 16, so not even a full strength battalion. No one in the USA gives a fuck outside of Lockheed's affirmative - action retarded employees. Just think of how many subhumans in Arkansas are crying now... oh yeah they also don't give a shit due to the long backorder.

>Our allies
Funny way to write parasites.

>>64833565
>That’s just the free market at work
>Government procumbent
Anon... you are a retard and your shit is fucked up.

>>64834004
>procumbent
procurement

>>64833708
I mean they finished a project to double production from 48 to 96 per year in 2024. The issue is that the total value of Lockmarts backlog is almost $200 billion which itself is an increase of 10% over the year end 2024 backlog.

>>64833835
>average /pol/shitter head canon
allsotiresome.bmp

>>64834004
>>64834010
>pro cum bent
what your mother did with mr last night

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>>64833931

>>64833793
>>64833762
You are both beating a dead horse.
Air deployment of vehicles is basically non-existent in Norwegian doctrine, in which rail and road transport (and to some extent RORO) is prioritized. All vehicles will be stationed up north, and any deployment they need to do can be handled through self-deployment on wheels.

Should they need to deploy to eFP or similar, they will use RORO's as all other heavy equipment they've sent there.

>>64833729
Losing orders (even if because you already have many) is still losing orders. That's business 101.

>>64835031
If you need to build additional factories to handle the surge in business, then the extra cost of the factory needs to be weighed against the profit from extra sales, especially when the rate of extra sales is likely to be at least partly transient.

In other words, it isn't worth spending a billion dollars on a new factory in order to make half a billion on selling stuff, and then close down the factory while still half a billion in the red because your customers stopped panic buying and you don't have enough sales to sustain the extra production line.

>>64835041
Like all defense contractors, they are waiting for the government to pay them to expand production

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>>64833555
>digits
I....conceed.....

>>64833512
wish dot com himars
I mean you do you don't come crying to us when it doesn't do HIMARS things.

>>64835895
Actually it can do all the HIMARS things (with the exception of the PrSM), at least on paper. The HIMARS has at least seen real war though. The best the Chunmoo has there is firing at empty fields in North Korea.

>>64833609
thirdie seethe

>>64835041
>In other words, it isn't worth spending a billion dollars on a new factory in order to make half a billion on selling stuff, and then close down the factory while still half a billion in the red because your customers stopped panic buying and you don't have enough sales to sustain the extra production line.
>We didn't spend $1 billion to make a factory and it's was a great business decision, because we already lost $2billion order from Norway, $x billion order from Poland and probably some more.
That's business 101. It's not hard to make stuff, it's hard to sell stuff. Therefore if someone comes on his own to buy your stuff, you decline his offer, because, because uh, *checks notes* making stuff is harder and more expensive than sell- wait something wrong.

>>64836768
>It's not hard to make stuff, it's hard to sell stuff.
What the fuck.

>>64833512
Chunmoo can still load GMLRS pods just fine

>>64833713
fewer

>>64833822
What scenario would require Norway to airlift a significant number of MLRS without assistance from other NATO members?

>>64833883
>I actually think the issue will be finding wide-load rail and road transporters.
It's a truck, my man. They can just drive it where it needs to go. Norway isn't that big.