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>>64834488
I'M SORRY, PATRIOT!

>>64834488
Patriot

>Le unstoppable Hypersonic wonderwaffle
>its another ballistic missile
I remember the other day a nigger was on here claiming Zircons were the REAL super weapon, and Iskander was just a grift that boyars that lied to Putin about

Imagine if they had that ground-based Aegis and Standarts like polacks.

Ah so this is why they're seething today

>>64834488
Intercepted missile has no engine plume

>>64834705
ballistic missiles generally don't have their engines lit coming back down nigga.

>>64834779
Zircon is supposed to be powered by scram-jet.

>>64834786
>supposed to be
anon encounters Russian claims for the first time

>>64834786
They have to slow down dramatically in the terminal phase to have any hope of hitting anything. Very likely unpowered at this point, especially if they're using them at close to max range on a semi-ballistic trajectory.

>>64834805
?
I thought hypersanics were fast throughout their entire travel?

>>64834812
Mach 4 is still pretty fast, but not fast enough to avoid getting shot down by a patriot.

>>64834812
They are. What Russia calls a "hypersonic", isn't
Same goes for their "5th Gen" planes and "3rd Generation" thermal imagers

>>64834786
>is supposed to be
if the US is struggling to field scramjets then russia sure as fucking shit can't field scramjets.
perhaps it's a common case of them lying about something.
>>64834812
the ones western powers are trying to develop, are. the ones thirdies like to boast about aren't.

>another one
How many hypersanic copes must be shot down until thirdies latch onto something else?

>>64834812
Retards like yourself are why thirdies name them as such, yes. When the firstworld talks about hypersonics, they mean things that maintain that speed while being able to maneuver during terminal phase, while thirdies use the fact people are dumb to conflate anything that goes fast at some point during it's entire launch profile.

>>64834488
We’re sorry, we didn’t know it was uninterceptable

>>64835312
They'll cycle back to quantum shit soon enough

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>>64834577
I'm
sorry
Patriot

say it, filth

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>>64835395
I'm! Sorry! Patriot!

while pac-3 sme and cri are capable of hitting zircon during terminal, this is actually showing an intercept of an iskander-m or s-300.

>>64834805
yes, though in this case, zircon will still be powered. it does fly somewhat similar to a quasi-ballistic missile in that it reaches high-altitudes and cruises relatively flat at hypersonic velocities, and then it dives down on the target to achieve even higher ones. it slows down via maneuvers during terminal so that gps guidance or its active radar can work.

>>64834812
Wait until you lear the difference between USAF "thermobarics" and Russian "thermobarics".

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>>64835783
LOUDER!

>>64834696
Just wait for the anniversary in the next few weeks. It'll be a field day comparing the occupation maps of the initial first few days to the current ones.

>>64834786
>supposed to be
yeah and T90s were supposed to be all-new design with Western ammo protection standards, blow out panels and 2m Rhae of protection, honest guv swear on me babushka

>>64834812
yes and no, depending on function and design
also, there's a difference between what NATO calls "hypersonic MANOEUVRING" and technically "hypersonic" i.e. faster than Mach 5
the latter is achievable by any ballistic missile dating back to the V2 rocket

>>64835312
>>64835322
the latest chink cope is synthetic gold
party like it's 1403 yo

>>64835938
> it slows down via maneuvers during terminal
at which point it poses no greater threat than usual

the main issue will be getting launch warning. this is where "multi-domain ops" really does become necessary rather than a mere catchphrase.

marvs are better than muh "hypersonics" (transsonics) and i'm tired of people pretending they're not
>w-we're afraid of space
>w-we can't maneuver any better, but we're far more heckin' cute and valid
>w-what do you mean we cost nearly twice as much for basically the same kinematics and don't perform missions any better

total pershing ii victory

>>64836372
This lol.
>just a few billion dollars and 2 more years for the exquisite extreme engineering weapon bro
>noo you can't just launch too many warheads to deal with for the fraction of the cost. that won't work

>>64836372
what bothers me is that NOBODY, absolutely fucking NOBODY, used "hypersonic" as a term before 2018 or so.
i NEVER heard ANYONE use it, but suddenly out of nowhere it sprang into common vernacular within a year or so, and none of the normalfags who use it know the difference between the literal, basic meaning (literally anything that travels above mach 5 for any length of time at all, even if it's for 1 second) and what a western politician is talking about when he is talking about the development of hypersonics (atmosphere hugging powered vehicle that can maneuver at speeds in excess of mach 5 and stay at that speed all the way until impact, while also being able to actually guide itself onto a target at that speed)

it's the sort of shit that really dangerously inflates your ego, because really, understanding all of this conceptually is not hard at all, but the average person is so retarded, and so easily manipulated with wordplay, that it makes you feel extremely smart by comparison.

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>>64836489
>what bothers me is that NOBODY, absolutely fucking NOBODY, used "hypersonic" as a term before 2018 or so.
I used to hear that shit all the time in wargame roleplays on nationstates back in fucking ~2003.
>ACKSHULLY MY MISSILES ARE GOING AT MACH23 AND CANT BE INTERCEPTED SO DESPITE HAVING A COUNTRY 1/50TH THE SIZE, GDP, MILITARY AND TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT I SHOULD WIN EVERY ENGAGEMENT
God damn that just unlocked a door I thought shut for a while. It was always either hypersonics, nukes or some weeb magic shit

>>64834488
it's iskander-m

>>64836491
I mean, they're not wrong
but that's exactly why the proliferation (including the number of missiles, warheads, and launch vehicles available) of these systems were and still remain a huge issue

>TFW you're old enough to remember when people were arguing about the difference between supersonic missiles and manoeuvring supersonic missiles, and now it's hypersonic missiles vs manoeuvring hypersonic

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>>64835395
>>64835783
>>64835988
>Upon sighting the Sharpe reply chain, I gave them (you)s, that's my style, sir.

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>>64836667
And did any poster distinguish himself?

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>>64835988
I'M! SORRY! PATRIOT!