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To think I have reached the point of having 30 handguns soon
the TX-22 and USP 40 will be my 29th, and 30th handgun on hand, respectively
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>>65077446
Based
Also why is the CAPTCHA loading so slow?
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>>65077455
I dunno but it's fucking dumb and annoying
Also I admire those P220s you got there, I love the P226 MK25 I have
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>>65077461
Thanks. I need to get an updated pic some day of all of mine.
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.25 acp bros check in
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new can got here. it's insane how light this thing is
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My baby
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>>65077461
SIGGER vs SIGGA
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>>65077441
>Kymera
It's never releasing is it
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>>65077505
I asked Kriss' customer support and they said sometime this year.
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>>65077493
Nice PPK
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>>65077455
whats the electrical tape on the TLR for?
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>>65077563
it keeps carbon off the lens
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Here's an interesting platypus of a gun I saw at my LGS. Apparently there's a Turk copy of a Springfield XD, only it has no grip safety and it takes CZ-75 magazines.

It's called a KOR FX9, costs $330, comes with Mec-Gar magazines and the YT reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Anyone else seen one of these things? I might pick it up as a companion to my CZ because it's cheap, but of course
>Turkish
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>>65077446
How do you store them all?
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CZ or Canik?
I'm debating between getting a P-10 C Ported or this thing Canik announced recently.
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>>65077628
P10. Do not give money to Turkey.
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1167138654

I should have said fuck it and bid him higher

>>65077486
Nice Anon, which one is it?
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>>65077634
Any particular reason why? I'm not very well versed in political autism sorry.
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>>65077628
CZ for sure.

With that said, a friend has a Canik Rival that is pretty rad.
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>65077653
Because he felt guilty for fapping too much, had a "religious revival", fancies himself an actual Christian now and therefore sees any country that's not majority Christian along with their entire population as our irredeemable sworn enemy.

That's not to say Turks are saints or anything. They're opportunists. But the foaming at the mouth sworn eternal hatred against them is ridiculous.
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>>65077657
the projection coming off this post is cataclysmic
it's not that deep turkshit just sux
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>65077657
Fag of the year award.
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>>65077663
That's not what the post the above poster was inquiring about said.
>Do not give money to Turkey
That's a much broader statement, indicating that it's a faux pas to buy anything that financially benefits any enterprise or person in Turkey even if the product is good or good value.

On that note.
>All their shit sux lol
Well that's about half true. They have shown an ability to make competent or even very good firearms if they put in the effort.
I think part of the problem is people who got burned by Turkshit assuming that all of it is the same and another part coping because they spent a lot more money on their gun and now they just need to believe that theirs is indeed 4x better. It isn't. Cheap guns can be extremely good nowadays. It's a very competitive market and that's a good thing. Premium mediocre gunmakers need to be scared into giving a fuck or else they'll charge a premium for slop that's even worse than Turkshit without going out of business as they should.
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>>65077663
That's not what the post the above poster was inquiring about said.
>Do not give money to Turkey
That's a much broader statement, indicating that it's a faux pas to buy anything that financially benefits any enterprise or person in Turkey even if the product is good or good value.

On that note.
>All their shit sux lol
Well that's about half true. They have shown an ability to make competent or even very good firearms if they put in the effort.
I think part of the problem is people who got burned by Turkshit assuming that all of it is the same and another part coping because they spent a lot more money on their gun and now they just need to believe that theirs is indeed 4x better. It isn't. Cheap guns can be extremely good nowadays. It's a very competitive market and that's a good thing. Premium mediocre gunmakers need to be scared into giving a fuck or else they'll charge a premium for slop that's even worse than Turkshit without going out of business as they should.
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>>65077441
I have a feeling it's going to be another checkerooni
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>>65077663
That's not what the post the above poster was inquiring about said.
>Do not give money to Turkey
That's a much broader statement, indicating that it's a faux pas to buy anything that financially benefits any enterprise or person in Turkey even if the product is good or good value.

On that note.
>All their shit sux lol
Well that's about half true. They have shown an ability to make competent or even very good firearms if they put in the effort.
I think part of the problem is people who got burned by Turkshit assuming that all of it is the same and another part coping because they spent a lot more money on their gun and now they just need to believe that theirs is indeed 4x better. It isn't. Cheap guns can be extremely good nowadays. It's a very competitive market and that's a good thing. Premium mediocre gunmakers need to be scared into giving a fuck or else they'll charge a premium for slop that's even worse than Turkshit without going out of business as they should.
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Posted in the wrong fucking thread yesterday. Embarrassing.
I'm getting a couple mag springs, and the 24lb recoil spring/rod set from Wolf for my M&P 45.
Since I'm placing the order, is there any point to any recoil springs heavier than the stock 16lb spring just to reduce recoil for regular range ammo?
Recoil isn't bad, but a 17 or 18 or 19 spring is just $9. Is this retarded?
Will any of them reduce recoil at all without screwing the reliability of standard pressure 45? Lightest ammo would be 135gr Underwood Xtreme Defender.
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>>65077732
It's generally okay to use heavy springs unless you are running competition grade ammo. Defense ammo is typically pressured enough to where you can go with a very heavy spring. With that said, the difference is only slightly more than placebo. A weak spring is much more noticeable than a strong one in terms of recoil.
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What ever happened to the bullpup revolver from 3 or 4 shot shows ago? We all conjectured it’s most likely vaporware. I haven’t heard of it since.
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>>65077594
Very carefully
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>>65077657
Not gonna lie I am tired of "christians" crying so much about fapping
I liked them better when they were fighting against gays
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>>65077762
same thing that happens to every novel revolver design: ran out of funding.
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ahh, hidden new /hg/ not advertised in old bread, a welcome surprise.
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I've been really liking this handgun
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>>65077732
If you shoot a lot you may notice a slight reduction in felt recoil if the slide is slowing down enough
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>>65077939
Glock needs to remake this with slim mags.
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>have Springfield Echelon
>want to slap a dot on it
>want something sturdy that won't fuck with my astigmatism
>lightbulb.gif
Would mounting a pic rail section to the mount plate and adding one of those Primary Arms 9mm micro prisms work? I know it sounds (and probably IS) retarded but I have to know.
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>>65078132
Its gonna look dumb as fuck, the prism is way bigger than pistol dots. Get a green dot or cope.
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>>65078132
How bad is your 'tism? I don't get a terrible starburst effect on my vortex ccw, even at brightness levels sufficient for bright light outdoors.
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>>65077493
>>65077533
Just got mine on Monday. Going to shoot it on Saturday with my dad. I have an FEG PA-63 that I got from my grandpa when I was 13, and I've wanted the real deal ever since then.
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>>65078076
All hope on Mec Gar to make 10 round G43 magazines
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>>65078180
Welcome to the club
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>>65077698
So the green checkmarks are ones that actually are purchasable and the other ones are not?
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>>65077698
>tfw no 38-3
It's so dumb I want it
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>>65078138
>Its gonna look dumb as fuck, the prism is way bigger than pistol dots.
Looking dumb is fine, I'm more concerned with function. Is it too heavy for the regular spring weight vs. your standard Holosun or Vortex?
>Get a green dot or cope.
I'm also concerned about durability, astigmatism compliance isn't the only factor.
>>65078160
I have noticed that green dots are a fair bit better than red for me. Red isn't ALWAYS bad, but it's pretty consistently poor. The etched reticle is a major draw for me.
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>>65077698
Why I read that with Harley Quinn's voice?
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>>65078244
The pistol dots you'd be bothering to use are as durable if not more durable than a lot of budget rifle optics. A vortex or even holosun pistol dot will be smaller and outside of QC problems it shouldn't die on you. If you absolutely can't be bothered with a direct mount pistol optic I'd consider a frame optic mount so at the very least the weight won't give you reliability issues.
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>>65077582
>literally just paid for one right now
It's over. You've won.
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>>65078244
>I have noticed that green dots are a fair bit better than red for me.
The vortex dots I have are all red.
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>>65078246
Because you're a capeshit fag
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>>65078246
burt is harley quinn? add to the wiki
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>>65077762
It was never real. CG mockups don't count as vaporware imo
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Outside of AR pistols and Glock/Glock clones, what handguns take Glock mags?
I've got a ton of them, and I'm looking for a new 9mm handgun.
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>>65077732
Are you sure you should be moving up in weight, and not down? Is the slide actually bottoming out during the cycle, indicating your springs are too light? Most people go DOWN in RSA weight to reduce recoil, because a lot of duty-focused guns are oversprung from the factory to increase the envelope of ammo they can cycle reliably.
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>>65078191

>stop, I can only get so erect
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>>65078454
No I am not. Will read more.
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>>65078472
very feddish layout my glowing friend
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>>65078433
https://thegunzone.com/what-guns-take-glock-mags/

Don't forget the RXM
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>>65078555
When was the last time you left your house?
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>>65078454
>Most people go DOWN in RSA weight to reduce recoil
And then they shoot low power loads barely meeting pf that need lower weight springs to cycle
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>>65078433
Fusion Firearms 2011
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>>65078433
Why limit yourself, they're not even the cheapest*
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Should I get a Langdon Tactical 92 Elite?
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>>65078433
Mostly 2011 style stuff like Platypus, Staccato, AlphaFoxtrot etc
Glock clones of course
Some PCC like Banshee or Stribog
Tippman Gatling Gun
This cursed Grand Power that isn't even imported into US

Glock magazines are great, best gun uses them after all. Don't be fooled by imitations, get a Glock brand Glock and use it with Glock magazines.
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>>65078614
uploading the image is barely fucking possible today, for some reason
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>>65077698

How do you like the DWX? I'm torn because it's such a solid piece but the price tag feels $500 too high
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>>65077698

How do you like the DWX? I'm torn because it's such a solid piece but the price tag feels $500 too high
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>>65077698
How do you feel about the DMX?
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>>65078641

It's gon give it to ya
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>>65078629
I don't have one because of that reason. The MSRP ~6-7 years ago was originally $1,800 with vendors undercutting one another before it came out, I saw it as low as $1,500 on gun.deals (OOS, wasn't released yet). Now MSRP is $3,000 which is frigging absurd, but vendors have it around $2,000

Given inflation between then and now I guess it's not so bad

>>65078641
>>65078649
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Finally took the Security Six to the range and gah dahm that .357 has a lot of kick I wasn't expecting it to be that bad. Started off with training rounds, then wadcutters, normal .38 and finally .357 but I still wasn't prepared for it. When I got up to 15 yards my shoots were going way off to the right and that's when I noticed the rear sights was off center. Think I liked shooting wadcutters the most despite it being really smokey.
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>>65078770
You now know why .357 magnum and up is generally considered the next step up if you want a pistol round that will do more than just poke a hole in someone.
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Which small pelican case would fit a staccato HD p4 and two spare mags?
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>>65078826
Probably a standard sized single pistol case. What do you need the case for? Travel or selling?
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RARE GUN ALART RARE GUN ALART
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1167328048
RARE GUN ALART RARE GUN ALART
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>>65078836
Travel.
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>>65078641
I cry every time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdo2u0p2r04&list=RDXdo2u0p2r04&start_radio=1

>>65078649
it's what you hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlmpkzfwDHU&list=RDqlmpkzfwDHU&start_radio=1
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Are modern stainless Colt Pythons good?
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>>65078839
Oy vey that kind of desert eagle is that
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>>65078870
Yes, they're much more worth it now for 1100-1200 too instead of the 1500 I paid. Best trigger you'll get in a stock revolver that doesn't cost 4 grand and come from Europe.
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>>65078881
>come from Europe
RIP CT gun manufacturing.
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>>65078870
Only if you put a sticker over the QR code
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>>65078870
After their ridiculously poor rollout I wouldn't trust them for shit.
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>>65078915
feelings
>>65078881
objective
>>65078870
make your choice
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>>65078938
>feelings
So when every review I watched at the time featured multiple malfunctions caught on video that was my emotions making that happen?
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>>65077641
That's a good price these days.
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>>65078132
I'm pretty sure even the 1x prisms have eye relief of like 3.5" or something.
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>>65078246
>Why I read that
Because you're brown. Typical capeshit audience.
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>>65078826
Could probably get it in an 1170.
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How do you cope when you see someone buy the perfect gun for you?

Someone bought a gun I wanted and the serial number was XXXYYYY where the Xs were my initials and the Ys were my year of birth. Any version of that gun I buy in the future will be inferior
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>>65078970
Should have told him it had your name on it.
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>>65078942
mention that in your post next time you make a critique of a gun, shouldn’t have to pull teeth to value your opinion
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>>65078974
Faggot.
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>>65078770
If you get a set of factory rubber grips they'll help a lot. I've had a Security Six just like that for years and that was the first upgrade. I can shoot 38+P all day with the wood grips but only about a cylinder of 357 before I'm done. With the rubber grips it's not a problem.

Shame they don't look as nice though.
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>>65078980
oo scathing
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>FFL called.
>Sig Sp2022 is in.
It's silly, but it feels good to cross this one off my list.
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>>65079033
I came really close to buying one a long time ago but they wouldn't take my check. Went to another store and got an old witness 9mm. I wonder how things would have turned out if that day went differently.
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>>65079033
I got an SP2022 a few years ago and I LOVE that motherfucker. I've considered getting a second.
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Just picked up my charter arms walker. 1st impressions are that is is very nice. Good timing, no end shake, damn thing even came with snap caps so you can test the trigger. Trigger is significantly better than my Sp101or my j frames were out of the box. It is surprisingly smooth and light. It's no performance center, but it doesn't feel like a 22lr revolver. I'll have to shoot it next time I'm at the range, but initial impression is that it is awesome, especially for the price.
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>>65078662

Guess I'll wait a year to see if prices drop
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>>65078970
just ask to buy it off him retart
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>>65078180
That's awesome, anon. There are many imitations, but there is only one PPK.
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>>65079135
Not really. There's the PPK in 380 or in 32, the PPK/S, the US made examples as well as German ones from various importers, some .22lr versions, stainless vs blue for all of the above, wartime bringbacks, and then there's the PP. If you want to get granular it's actually a pretty big family just within Walther production.
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I love my staccato and will probably never get rid of it, but I'm not convinced it shoots any softer than a ported/comped glock
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>>65078970
It's a gun. A tool, you tool. Do you collect power tools and not use them too faggot?
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>>65079149
Nice. It won't let me post the master and commander tattoo this site is so fucking gay now.
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>>65079149
It should, hammer fired guns slow down the slide with the hammer spring inaddition to the recoil spring. The none reciprocating mass of the barrel should also help.
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>>65078433
>what handguns take Glock mags?
>I've got a ton of them, and I'm looking for a new 9mm handgun.
Who cares? I'll never understand people's obsession with picking new guns that take magazines you already have. If there's a gun you want, and it doesn't take mags you already have, then buy a couple mags, you cheap bastards. Fuck...
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>>65078649
It's not waiting for you to get it on your own, it's gonna deliver it to ya.
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>>65077672
>>65077679
>>65077705
So autistic he spammed it thrice
>>65077886
Coomer
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>>65079151
There are definitely people who do this and pretending otherwise is willful ignorance.
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>>65078562
>"Outside of [...] Glock clones"
>posts Glock clone
>posts obvious AI sloppa site
I knew /k/ was retarded but holy fuck.
>>65078958
My turn to be retarded. I didn't even take eye relief into account. Thanks anon.
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>>65079151
lmao the last post on this entire board was 43 minutes ago and it was calling someone a faggot.
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Oh I guess it's just fucked.
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i have my wife's pistol now
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>>65079254
Too short, not Revy’s gun just a cheap knock off.
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They blue now?

They blue now.
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fellas, it’s been an honor posting with you...
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>>65079201
>eye relief
I only know that because someone told me when I was thinking of getting one.
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>>65078132
You want a Carver Custom universal optic mount, mounts to the rail on the gun. You get their 503/T aimpoint mount and then the new T2 pattern Primary Arms prism.
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>>65078132
>>65079201
Recoil would destroy it pretty quickly, those things are not meant for two-directional Gs as high as a pistol slide (I want to say it's about 4x more than the prism could take). Also also the weight would have a deleterious effect on reliability that is unlikely to be overcome by playing musical springs

The GLX PA prisms have "infinite" eye relief so that wouldn't be a problem, but keeping that little tube lined up perfectly with your eye at arm's length with a 2.5" offset from bore would be unpleasant even if the above weren't roadblocks. Not worth the hassle over a big ass dot turned to low brightness. Or new glasses
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is this handgun any good?
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I ordered a mk25 today.
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>>65078180
I wish my dad was still around to take shooting. Took him once when he got this turkshit shotgun, he didn't have his earpro on right and kept complaining about ringing ears for days lol. I miss that goofy man.
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>>65079323
It's a meme. You buy it because you want it, not cause it's good (it's not)

>>65079327
Neat!
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>>65079332
is that kit any good and what lower do you have?
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>>65079335
It's better than the old ones that had the LRHO but like most .22s it's ammo dependent. It's pretty chill with the right ammo and a lot of fun

D-Technik imported by Waffenwerks
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I was asking last thread about custom grips being made
I decided to do each part separately, with wooden grips with a hole plus metal/enamel pins
My next question is would someone working on making a place to set in the pin be able to get the shape cutout precise enough to hold it in nice and close?
I am mainly worried about the sharp angles and also the area in between the angled ends of the ribbon
I will of course have the area between the ribbon and center filled in, but that still leaves some extreme sharp corners
The pin would have to be pretty small, as hi-power grips are pretty narrow
Apparently the official medallions for them are only 1/2 inch across
I would have a company make the center part that small, and the ribbon would be a little extra above and below
It is easy to get a perfectly round indentation, but how would the person making the grips be able to have both the curved and hard-edged sections of the design?
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>>65079259
Sometimes I lay awake at night and remember your post about how good-looking blued revolvers used to be and I think about how we used to be a real country
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>>65079441
Laser engraving could do it, probably wouldn't be that expensive. They can do custom designs at trophy shops and such, it wouldn't be a stretch to ask one to run a program 20 times or whatever and burn deep like they do with laser checkering (picture related). You could use a forstner bit to make the central circle but why bother when laser engraving can do the whole intricate shape. Alternatively you could simply have the emblem made round with a black surround to encircle the ribbons on the pin, and then use just the simple forstner bit.

I don't imagine getting custom enameled cast brass emblems would be cheap but I have no idea

>>65079444
Me too but demographics instead of industrial processes
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>>65079254
Tis
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>>65077441
I want it ;_;
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>>65079483
not enough engine turning
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>>65079495
>engine turning
Is that related to the engraving? I don't know what that means.
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>>65079254
>pistol
She has 2, anon.
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>>65079507
It's a method of decorative engraving, yes.
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I bought Accurate No. 7. Should I expect about 200 fps lower than this out of a 2.75" barrel or closer to 300?
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>>65079648
Forgot to add test barrel was 7.5"
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>>65079650
.357?
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>>65079675
44
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>>65077493
>>65077533
>>65078180
>>65078201
bruddas
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guys what are pistols similar to the CZ Rami?
>sub compact
>all metal
>DA/SA
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>>65079877
You're going to have to get a bersa
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>>65079149
that tv placement is enraging
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>>65079908
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>>65080112
>enraging
You know what's even more enraging is that Ken's Bleu Cheese.
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>>65079703
Does he like his laser pointer toy stirred, not shaken?
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>>65079535
yeah
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>>65080112
That isn't the stock trigger is it?
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>>65080112
>blue cheese
gross, a good wing sauce doesn't need dairy with it
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>>65080203
Those are buffalo tenders and its traditional.
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>>65080113
Shoulda got a RAMI
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>>65080112

Blue cheese has mold
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>>65080216
Dont worry theres ranch at the kiddy table
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>>65080206
>needing sauce for your already sauced tenders
ishygddt
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>>65079877
>all steel subcompact da/sa
Good fucking luck. I bought a ppk because I just wanted a small, stainless da/sa.
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>>65080241
Dont worry Ill cut up some plain hotdogs for you.
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>>65080216
this is why I’ve never allowed penicillin to enter my body ever
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My one and only. Got a good deal on it, it’s been reliable, and it’s not too much trouble to conceal. Next on the list is a cheap snubbie.
Speaking of which, how are those Roscoe revolvers? Anyone have one?
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>>65080216
Hey Cathie.
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>>65080279
forgot pic
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>>65079877
The CSX-E isnt exactly what you're looking for but it's exactly what you're looking for

>>65080270
Nice man. Kind of hard to beat a Model 10, especially a heavy barrel
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>>65080285
That’s a good idea, come to think of it. I’ve seen some model 10 snubbies priced reasonably. I know they’d be more controllable and comfortable than a j-frame.
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>>65080270
>4 versions
>they all suck
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>>65080302
Fucking excuse me? You don’t appreciate the poetic value of the KJV?
What utter lack of taste.
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>>65080270
The mormons got the 1911 and the Hi Power...what's a good catholic gun?
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>>65080341
Beretta 92
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>>65080341
HK
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>>65080341
Just because JMB was one doesn’t mean they can lay claim to his designs. Might not have been his fault.
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>>65078596
Nta, but you know of any extensions available for the old style 15 rounders? Afaik you can do a +1 or +2 before you start hitting limitations either the mag geometry.
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>>65080341
Swiss Sig
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I have PDP magazines, Glock magazines, and 365 magazines. Now, I might want more guns, but I don't want more types of magazines. Why do all guns have to use their own super special magazine that looks exactly like everyone else's but isn't compatible.
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>>65080401
Theres no magically accepted set of specs for pistol frames.
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>>65080401
>Has at least three striker-fired polymer handguns
Maybe a metal hammer-fired one next
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>>65079327

Based, bought mine locally for $500 in December. Great shooter thought i tend to ride the slide release with my off hand lol
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>>65077441

https://youtu.be/WkTHZ1X5e6E
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>>65080401
>don't want more types of magazines
How about you buy some ammo to actually load them?
>>65080249
NTA but your probably the type to put sour cream on your chili dog.
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>>65080112
3 of the 6 basic food groups. Dairy, protein, and lead.
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>>65080352
John Mormon Browning
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>>65079648
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>>65079648
Use GRT, bro.
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>>65079648
idk
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>>65080459
Oh dang you got the good grips without the shelf
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>>65080521
k
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>>65080284

Damn I'm so happy someone caught the reference
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>>65079877
CSX
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>>65077441
>Kriss Khmera
What are we thinking about this?
It looks like something straight out of Ghost in the Shell.
The guy on the tfbtv video a while back said they will try to get it down to a 3 lb single action and a 6 lb double action.
I want one.
The weird thing was it seemed to be getting a lot of shade in the comments. Some people even comparing the company to kel-tech.
I though Kriss/Sphinx was a good albeat obscure brand?
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>>65080563
>>DA/SA
I know, reading is hard.
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>>65080596
I promise you it wont matter if its SA.
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>>65080596
It’s like carrying a 75 cocked and locked, just don’t worry about it
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>>65080618
Doesn't an SA give you basically every feature a DA/SA has except that the hammer needs to be pulled back first? That just sounds like carrying a striker fired pistol.
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What am I missing? I put in a max book load from the Hornady manual and got this. I double checked length and seating depth with calipers, and put in the right primer
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>>65080642
>What am I missing?
Powder weight not what's in the book >>65079648
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>>65080651
It is. 24.5 grains. I double checked, both are set to grains
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>>65080651
Wait, A7 vs 9 ignore my stupidity
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>>65080641
Unless you hate safeties and must decock when holstering theres no need to worry about that.
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>>65080662
I do hate safeties. And I like decockers. And I like that I can have a DA in my pocket or whatever and never have to worry about it going off.
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>>65080683
Consider a snub revolver then.
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>>65080688
I want better capacity and faster reloads.
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>>65080736
In a pocket carry?
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>>65080736
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>>65079877
In production or discontinued?
If it doesn't have to be in production smith and Wesson had a dozen subcompact models like the 6906
There's also the beretta mini cougar
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>>65079648
https://ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html
These guys drop from 1385 at 7 inches to 1015 at 3 inches. So, you using 2.75, I'd guess you're losing at least 300 fps, probably closer to 375.
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I only own Glocks, I'm torn what to buy for my next gun as I want something American made, and would like a 1911 at some point but Walther and Beretta are both very alluring...
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>>65080746
You keep posting a single action. Do you not know what a DA/SA is? Do you own guns?
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Ignore this retard who doesn’t want the only gun out there designed for his stupid ass.

FN claims to have made a holographic pistol dot.
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>>65080739
What's wrong with that? My ppk weighs exactly the same as my model 60 snubby, but has 7+1 rounds. Sometimes I pocket carry and like having 8 rounds, sometimes I appendix and like having an extra mag.
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>>65080924
ASTIGMATISM BROS BIG NEWS
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>>65080929
It’s so over. It weights 1.55 pounds.
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>>65080942
How the fuck did they make something that small weigh that much? That's a feat of engineering.
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>>65080942
Seeing how my 518 looked compared to ‘generic red dot’ might still tip it for me. Holographics are much easier on my astigmatism. Just how expensive is this unobtanium holo?
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>>65080956
I think 800 dollars
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>>65080961
>3/4ths the cost of my pistol
maybe i can suffer a little longer
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>>65080928
Pocket Carry is super casual and youre trying to optimize it for extended gunfights. I think you should consider a bigger gun.
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>>65080942
I hope its 44 grams and FN cant into freedom units.
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>>65080967
I think maybe you forgot how to read halfway through the pist. Sometimes I appendix carry. It just depends on what I'm wearing and what I'm doing.
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>>65078602
They were the thing to have to get a great trigger in a hammer fired gun a few years ago. Now with the proliferation of 2011s and how cheap 2011s are getting, they're harder to justify in 2026. If you wanted a souped up hammer fired for carry then they're still a good choice since they're reliable, DA/SA with decocker only, and drop safe unlike 2011s/modified Shadow 2s.

You could always just buy a used 92 and just stick in the LTT trigger stuff and get 70-80% of the way there.
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>>65080986
>Da/sa with decocker
Didn't you read the thread? You should get a SAO or striker instead.
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>>65081007
You should get a CSX or have done your own research to find the S&W 3913
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>>65080948
Made of osmium doped with neutron star
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>>65080924
>holographix
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>>65080924
Oh also
>another footprint
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>>65081052
According to the video and how their IMAGEGUIDE works it’s actually holographic
https://youtu.be/JOpw4CVC744
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>>65081061
I'll need to see it to believe it. If it came from Holosun or Eotech (even though they outsource their pistol dots to chiner) or maybe even Sig I'd believe it but FN is literalwho in the optic space and their FIRST product that looks exactly like any random contract white label chinese red dot has magical technology nobody has been able to miniaturize and ruggedize for 30 years? I'm yeah righting a bit over here rn ngl iykwim
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>>65081011
I wasnt the guy asking, I was just the guy responding to the RETARDS that thought a guy asking for a double action would want an SAO, and then pretending like there's no conceivable reason one would want a da/sa.
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>>65081083
The technology was not developed by FN. it was by this company for AR/VR use. They just licensed the technology, it would be very interesting if other companies did the same. They probably got a third party to make the housing as well, I would expect it to be US assembled like the Eotech to check off the “made in America” box for military/law enforcement contracts.

https://www.creativemicro.com/
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>>65077493
Babies.
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>EOKeks last maybe 500 hours with 2 honkin AAs
>this thing has a year long battery life with a coin cell?
Yeah right, something is funky here. Obviously then it's not a laser diode which already makes it sus

I'm intrigued but
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>>65081089
And I was responding with “just buy a CSX” since it’s 2/3 of what he was asking and 3/3 of what he was asking does not exist in current production.
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>>65081104
It’s actually holographic me thinks. If they can get a HUD to work this close up to your face it’s an actual holographic display.
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>>65081107
Actually now I think about it my DIO FC1 is holographic with an LED but it uses a prism to achieve the effect. It has no parallax or distortion, is perfectly clear like an Eotech. It also uses a coin cell and lasts longer than 500 hours, but not a year. I guess if they use a different technology than the prism to reduce size and weight, and couple it with a pistol red dot emitter

I'm cumming around but how has no one thought of this for the three decades EOTech and pistol dots have coexisted? There has to be a reason. Holosun can put a man on the moon (make a thermal pistol optic) but they can't do this? Cum on
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>>65081126
since their site uses the word "lithography" (the shit they use for semiconductor manufacturing) and in the micro and nano scale, this shit is never going to be cheap

the 750 dollar MSRP from FN actually sounds decent for an actual holographic display
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>>65081126
>how has no one thought of this for the three decades
Because, who cares? Red dots work fine and don't way a pound and a half. Will a slide even cycle properly with that much weight?
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>>65080924
Big if true
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>>65081154
it doesn't actually weigh a 1.5 pounds, that's just a typo on their site. It weights 1.5 ounces or 11-15 french fries.
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>>65081154
>who cares?
Anyone who has looked through a Trijicon or low end dot of any type

It only weighs 1.5 ounces if you go by 44 grams
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>>65081104
>with intermittent use
As long as you leave it in the corner and never touch it then it will last a year.
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Anyone own this hoe?
I think it looks aesthetic as fuck without the rail.
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>>65081167
Jesus, that looks worse than an osight. Why did you buy it?
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>>65081167
My EPS and Romeo-X also have the tint, its endemic.
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>>65081197
>My EPS and Romeo-X also have the tint, its endemic.
tint is by design, it pops the red more for your eyes so it's higher contrast for the same brightness. The EPS doesn't have much tint.

Tint is completely fine, it's parallax that's the real issue and will make your dot "off" and not actually on POI.

If you shoot target focus you will never notice the tint
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>>65081202
I never really notice the tint when I'm at the range. Even my RMR I don't really see the tint when I'm shooting. I never got the tint tism since these are for shots maybe at 75-100 feet max.
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>>65080918
Most Berettas you can buy on the market are made in the US. Problem solved.
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>>65081154
some people have a much better response to holos for astigmatism
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>>65081182
I was enamored with the idea of nuclear/sun powered foreveroptic

>>65081197
The tint is the lesser of its evils and can be ignored, the MASSIVE distortion and 1.1x magnification are the bigger problems. Those make it hard for me to focus through a Trijewcon with both eyes open
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>>65081238
i like the smiley face in the right pic
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>>65081228
Not for me, only thing that works for me is tuning the brightness to be just right. Astigmatism is like autism in that everyone seems to have a custom specific issue that few others have. My "footballs" in my eyes are extra pointy and one is off at a 10 degree angle.
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>>65081252
right, which is why i said
>some
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This thing is perfectly visible with astigmatism but a regular red dot bursting is still better because of window size and see-through glass.
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>>65080401
I don't think they expected people to be stacking dozens of magazines for each pistol.
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>>65081276
Hear me out: this but with some kind of powered reticle. People want a prism optic for handguns and working on this could actually salvage this thing.
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>>65081284
Imo even releasing a "seeall comp" with larger window could work, tritium+fiber works pretty well. Unfortunately, it looks like that company is cooked.
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>>65080924
Wake me up when it's a prism
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>>65081182
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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>>65080924
If this thing lasts longer than an Eotech I'm gonna laugh.
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>>65081311
>prism
>for pistols
not happening
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>>65081388
A 1X pistol prism for 600-800 bucks would sell like hotcakes. Even better if the chinks make a decent knockoff for half.
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>>65080924
>than most comparable optics
Which optics are the comparable ones though
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>>65081401
Probably more durable than chinese dots but until we can see someone hammer nails with one its a coin toss for durability against other western optics going for contracts.
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>>65081399
>1X pistol prism
Doesn't scale down the way you think it does.
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>>65081401
It has a very similar upper housing to the RCR
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>>65081414
Fair I'm not an optics guy professionally, but some kind of solid optic that allows for a crisp sight picture is the most effective solution even if it was a polycarbonate lens or something.
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>>65081202
>it pops the red more for your eyes so it's higher contrast for the same brightness
It's cope for a shitty dot. They can't make a good one with good battery life so they do this to make it last longer. If they could make it without the tint and not burn through batteries every month then they would. Fuck tint, don't make excuses for them.
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>>65081252
>Astigmatism is like autism in that everyone seems to have a custom specific issue
It literally is like that, which is why your optometrist is supposed to examine your astigmatism and adjust your prescription accordingly. Not all of them do that so you get people with glasses who still can't use a red dot.
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https://youtu.be/RlpMZrXCEiQ?si=RgNLeXcOge1r1-jy
kek
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>>65081453
>si=RgNLeXcOge1r1-jy
aint clicking that shit nigga
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>>65081453
>P320 goes off again
P365Chads keep winning my fellow Siggers
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>>65081430
>crisp sight picture is the most effective solution
Provided the parallax is addressed/adjustable, yeah!
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Which handgun is the most resistant to salt water? Let me guess, a polymer?
Which revolver?
Landlubbers and trannies need not respond
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>>65081459
Pretty sure you can remove the part after the question mark

>>65081211
Does Beretta pay you to shill here? If not, you're doing it wrong

>>65080918
Consider a Ruger SP101 hammerless. It's very different from a glock, but it's a very viable gun in close quarters when you need to draw fast
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>>65081441
>It's cope for a shitty dot. They can't make a good one with good battery life so they do this to make it last longer. If they could make it without the tint and not burn through batteries every month then they would. Fuck tint, don't make excuses for them.
I find my astigmatism works better with tinted dots, I still rock a RMR type 2 in 2026 because of it. fuck you
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>>65081516
It's not a personal attack, unless you work for trijicon I see no reason to get offended on their behalf.
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>>65081525
Everyone uses tints, Trijicon is just fucking lazy and won't develop their current product line unless the government tells them to. Much like HK they don't care about civilians.
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>>65081536
>Everyone uses tints
Not as heavily as trijicon though. If they could make it without a tint they would be gone tomorrow.
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>>65081554
they literally can by just not applying the tint?
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How much should I be paying for a CZ-75 pre b made in Czechoslovakia ?
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>>65081561
Yes and now we're back to my point about battery life.
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>>65081563
In perfect condition brand new? $500-$700
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>>65081563
https://royaltigerimports.com/shop/cz75-pistol-with-free-leather-holster-9mm-luger/

You tell me
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>>65079512
im too poor & lazy to make another one of them, im happy with the second one just being an inox beretta 92
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>>65081596
You at least made the shorts right?
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Are the smith carry comps worth the extra money over the normal ones?
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>>65081570
Weird, other optics don't seem to have a battery life problem. Is this unique to trijicon? My poorfag optics have great battery life.
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>>65081625
Yes. Less recoil is less recoil, it's the closest thing you can do to buy skill. As a self defense weapon you want every advantage you can get, porting is almost "free" as it doesn't increase weight or change reliability that much. The gun will get much dirtier quicker though.

No. Comping/Porting do have downsides, jacket separation (depends on porting job), but to me the most major one is how uncomfortable it makes shooting one in a cramped interior (like a shooting stall). They're louder and direct more muzzle blast to the sides ~ closer to your face. It's noticeable.

Maybe. I have ported guns but I don't carry them. I shot a shield plus comp and it didn't wow me. They're interesting to shoot but don't eliminate recoil like a properly built compensated gun (Staccato XC for example).
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>>65081640
>Yes. Less recoil is less recoil, it's the closest thing you can do to buy skill. As a self defense weapon you want every advantage you can get
Imagine giving a shit about recoil. I recoilmax. Every shot hurts my hand. One bullet would obliterate any opponent that i would reasonably find in any scenario, whether urban or rural.
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I'm bored with 9mm.
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>>65081728
all guns and calibers are boring after awhile
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>>65081728
I was too, so I carried a fucking 1895 nagant for like a week in a shoulder holster. I was no longer bored of 9mm after that.
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>>65081728
Which 9mm?
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>>65081728
range doesn’t allow rapid fire?
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>>65081712
You own no firearms.
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>>65081852
You recognize my firearms on sight, faggot. Why do you lie on purpose?
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https://x.com/mengyan1234567/status/2044580517870436796
Who do we trust, the nigerian prince or the humble temu salesman?
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>>65081869
Trust nobody.
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sent my P-09C in for warranty work
I was surprised; I was expecting FedEx to scrutinize more, but they didn't give two shits
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>>65081858
>t.
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>>65081895
>calling me a jeet
Them's fightin words, ese
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>>65081872
They have an agreement with the companies to handle RMAs. You’re supposed to hand it directly to an employee as it’s a dangerous item but I’ve just dropped them in drop boxes before (the one in the store) since some Africans were in line and they take 30 minutes minimum for some fucking reason.
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Hot damn the TX-22 TORO is so fucking cool.
I can't wait to get more mags for this thing and maybe finally go down the suppressor rabbithole
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>>65081728
>get bored with 9mm
>go back to 22
>get bored with 22
>go to .357
>realize .357 is expensive
>go to .38
>same shit
>go to .45
>same fucking shit
>go to .40 S&W
>my only gun (as of now) in that caliber sucks ass
>go back to 9mm and do .22LR on the side
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>>65081904
Here they usually have to try 5 different stolen cards in order to pay so that adds a few minutes.
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>>65081937
Perhaps you should try getting better at shooting than just blasting?
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>>65081946
I can shoot pretty well with 9mm but some days I just want to make some fucking noise
Also lmao forgot one other caliber
>try 5.7x28
>also too fucking expensive but it feels great to shoot
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Picked up today, zeroing tomorrow.
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>>65081948
You waste money on shitty physical copies of anime so I don't see why ammo prices are any kind of object to you.
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>>65081956
I'm pretty much done with micro 9s but that looks neat anon
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>>65081958
Because anime blu rays aren't consumables and I can easily pirate anime before buying
You can't download ammo
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>>65081956
>$1400 for a paddle mag release
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>>65081971
let me guess, you can’t afford it?
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>>65081956
>2012+14
>optic plate
lel
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>>65081956
I need to see one of these in person. I don't know if I would like the paddles on a gun this small. Love them on full sizes though.
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>>65082002
fucking love the paddles on the vp9a1F, feels so natural
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>>65081982
I could but I'd rather dump 1400 into a rifle or shotgun at this point.
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>>65080642
Can you post the original Hornady load?
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>>65081956
All of you lack whimsy.
Anyway what the fuck are these.
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>>65082025
Gotta collect em all.
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>>65082025
>HK haircombs
>You too can have hair with no compromise
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There is NO way this guy wearing a Black Multicam hoodie isn’t conceal carrying
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>>65081809
NTA but I shoot at a range with that rule but it doesn't get enforced unless you act like a stereotype.
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>>65082089
the usual guy at my range seems to like me pretty well, i may ask him next time if he minds. i usually have the pistol range to myself, the fudds hangout at the rifle area
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>>65082115
Get your foot in the door with double taps then work your way up to Bill drills!
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>>65082025
Pube combs for muslim immigrants, mandatory in Germany
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>>65080124
kek he loves it when I dry fire with a laser cart
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>>65082132
that’s a good idea
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>>65079117
Just took the Charter Arms Walker to the range and shot a shitload of Federal Automatch and a box of Federal Punch through it. Overall, I quite like it. The trigger is really nice, ejection was perfect, only FtF were with the loose bulk automatch ammo. They all fired fine with a restrike. There was one problem though. It shoots 6 freaking inches low with both the Automatch AND the Punch. Accuracy was pretty damn good though. I got 1.5 inch groups at 15 yards if I went slow with it. I'll ask Charter if they recommend filing the front sight down or if they want me to send it in to them to adjust it. Windage was perfect, but it was just REALLY low. Once I get the elevation fixed, I'll have to take it out again.
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>>65082141
I was going to say something about combing out pubic lice.
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>>65082132
>>65082115
>having to please autistic range niggerfaggot incels just so you can yeet some paper
Crackhead Forest stay winning, rangecel chudniggers stay losing. Go breathe some fresh air you eternal virgins, frfr onG. Btw rabbit stew tastes delish
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>>65079254
>Turkshit
>not a beretta
Where can I get those grips?
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>>65082178
>Charter Arms Walker
BASED, got pics

>it shoots low
I would CAREFULLY grind down my front sight, or replace it if possible
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>>65082285
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>>65079117
She's a beauty.

>she shoots low
Before grinding down the front sight, try replicating the issue with different ammo types. I doubt there will be a difference, but it's good policy to make sure it's not the ammo.
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>>65082301
>Timmy seething as usual
You inhale lead indoors, I'm eating rabbit Minestrone soup cooked over a campfire. Keep shooting your paper, child.
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>>65082313
>Keep shooting your paper
Thanks, I will!
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>>65082175
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>>65082285
i dunno where to go shooting in the woods, i dont wanna trespass
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>>65082344
>checked
It depends on where you live. Some places have way more viable shooting areas than others. Always make sure your town ordinances don't prohibit shooting in the woods. As for trespassing, as long as there's no sign, you're not trespassing. And if you're deep enough in the woods where no one is around, it doesn't matter if there's a trespass sign or not honestly. If a gun is fired in the woods, and no one is around to hear it, did it really go off? If a joint is smoked in the woods, but no one is around to smell it, did it really get burned?
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I'm pissed off. I'm older and always liked old Sig. Never had many handguns having being from California but when I left I was happy to finally get the unaltered AR's I always wanted. Trying to keep things simple I thought I was going to be happy with a P365XL and some variation of P320. I have the P365XL to which I have had no problems after probably 900 rounds or so. Never got the 320 and I'm glad I didn't. The whole 320 fiasco has soured me to anything Sig. I still might grab a 226 MK 25 if I find one for a good price but honestly. Fuck Sig. Here is the question. I'm looking for alternatives. Not opposed to Glock but that's the least interesting one to me. Still, if it works, is quality and will run then I'm good with it. G48 + G19/17 or do I go Walther, CZ, HK, Beretta? Anything else? Looking for a micro plus a G19/G17 size pistol for range/home defense.
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>>65082313
>Timmy
lmfao you little cuck faggot
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>>65082450
Not really a question so much as a rant

>mad at Sig
They handled the scandal very poorly, I'll admit. But in the objective eye, a shitty company can make good products. It's not so much about the make, as it is about the model
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>>65082467
You're the cuck. I bet you're on Discord with the janny glowniggers, spamming reports
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>>65082473
>cucked by jannies
you cant do shit anymore faggot lmfao keep thinking about our dicks queer
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>>65082469
Fair enough. Long day. Anyway, let me try to rephrase. I'm unhappy with the current leadership and actions taken by Sig USA. I don't have faith in the 320 although I'm happy with my 365XL yet I'm left with the question of can I truly trust it? I am interested in moving over to another set up, but considering the amount of options offered by other companies I'm asking what could be a viable alternative to the 365xl and either a compact or full size pistol that could fit my expectation for a reliable pistol. Glock is the safe choice but I'm looking for alternatives considering my own limitations by lack of experience. If Glock then it will be Glock. If something else... I'll try to get my hands on it and give it a go.
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>>65082476
>worshipping jannies
You are the least liked type of 4chan user. You are a loser among losers, bottom of the bottom of the barrel. Cucked for jannies is more cucked than cucked by them.
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>>65082487
You're thinking too much about brand and not enough about model. No one that i know is complaining about the safety of the 365, because it has a different type of trigger mechanism than the unsafe 226. So yes, you can trust it. But just to be sure, you could always drop test it on purpose. Hell, film it and post results here.
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>>65082344
You are replying to weedgineer.
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>>65082541
idk who that is
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>>65080642
Out of curiosity if that came from hornadys book was it supposed to be using hornadys 200 gn xtps? Because those are like .55-.56 in length, the 200 gn sierras are longer and since you put in the over all length for the Hornady load it’ll think your seating those sierra bullets deeper which limits the case capacity….
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>>65082530
I'm not so concerned with the 365 considering it's been my ccw pistol for over a year and I haven't had a single problem with it. I'm just wondering if there's a solid go to option for a G19/G17 pistol that's good to go. The fact that I even use G19/G17 already leads me to Glock in the same way if I want to trade/sell my 365XL I might consider a 43x or 48. Basically distill it down to do I go Glock or go PDP or P10? Fuck it.... just confirm my bias or give me a straight answer. Watch I'll end up with a PX4 carry and a G17.5 or say fuck y'all and go HK. Heaven help me, too many fucking options. I just want 2 pistols that run.
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>>65082552
That was the issue, thanks
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>>65082525
lmfao you retarded nigger, misconstruing shit like a woman. fucking pathetic no balls kike lol
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>>65082541
Buck broken

>>65082563
I mean, Glock is better, but your p365 is good too
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>>65082476
>keep thinking about our dicks queer
>>65082571
>no balls kike lol
Literally thinking about balls. MY balls.

>>65081982
Kys money burner. Smart people save their money.

>>65081937
357 isn't even expensive. It's more than 9mm, but that don't make it expensive. Besides, if that's really a problem for you, then learn to reload. If Twink can do it, why can't you?
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>>65081937
I think 9mm is a based choice. I even have a 9mm upper for my AR-15. It's fun as fuck on the range.
.22lr is kind of a love-hate relationship. I wish they were tiny center fire cartridges instead of this rimfire bullshit.

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