What sorts of jobs actually fall under the intel umbrella? And what would be the best for transitioning to a civilian career? Something that would help get me into government jobs

What jobs aside from 13N are remote and isolated but relatively light on work. How difficult is it to get 13N?

>>65190083
>What sorts of jobs actually fall under the intel umbrella?
What branch are you looking forward to joining? Each branch has different names.
>And what would be the best for transitioning to a civilian career? Something that would help get me into government jobs
All of them would and they all pay roughly the same. The question is which one do you find interesting.

>>65190857
I'm joining air force. Looking through the things, Cyber Warfare Operations or SIGINT/GEOINT seem pretty cool. I took my PiCAT this week and next week will be the verification test and MEPS.

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will becoming an infantryman cure my alcoholism?

>>65191296
That's like asking if becoming a pornstar will cure your nymphomania.

>>65191255
>gigabased and galaxy brained
SIGINT
some cyber
>based and redpilled
other cyber
GEOINT
>king of midwits
All-source
HUMINT
>what transitions to a civilian career???
In theory, all of it. In practice: I want you to go to clearancejobs and usajobs and browse jobs in the intel career fields for a while and take note of the most common applicant requirements and experience levels. This will give you a better picture of what is actually feasible - some fields, the right experience and qualifications could maybe let you line up a job right after 1 contract, but for most things, you're looking at 5+ YOE and a degree to get looked at.

Bump i guess

Also, besides the 2 years what's the difference between a 4 and 6 year contract? Ive been told you can get promotions faster, but is there anything else of note?

>>65192296
It's just the 2 years and whatever bonuses they throw in at enlistment, it shouldn't even matter for promotions beyond they probably won't want to promote you if your contract's nearly up and you don't plan on extending

>>65189661
I’m in Air Force DEP at the moment and my recruiter recently offered me several AFSCs that he says are similar to the ones in my job list (they aren’t). He says because I got in with a waiver that I should be ready to take anything they give me whether it is on my list or not. Is this true? Was the job list they made me do a formality this whole time? I declined the positions but I can tell he is getting annoyed with me.
I put two open aptitudes in there: electric and general so I thought I would get a decent chance of getting something in those.

>>65191255
If you are deadset on Intel, join the Army or Navy because they let you job-lock. For the other branches, including the Air Force, you will need to pick a list of jobs.

>>65192296
Do not get the 6-year contract. Faster E-3 promotion does not matter in the grand scheme of things at all. If you hate your life in the Air Force you will be stuck for the next 2 years.

>>65191296
The military life is stressful. It will make it worse and you will probably get another addiction during your time, like smoking.
Many such cases. Sad!

>>65192523
dont let your recruiter pressure you , if theyre not offering the type of job youre actually interested in dont join

>>65190157
The enlisted jobs that support 13N's

>>65192529
Honestly I think it'd be better. Mostly joining military because I don't really have any prospects otherwise and I'm hoping to get good training while i'm. I know they'll pay for school and shit so longer might be better. And I am thinking about doing a whole 20 years, but I guess I have time to think about that after my first contract.

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>>65189661
Is 28 too late to try to get a commission in the Army? I'm finishing my masters in a security related field in December and I have a bunch of internships in the same area but never got a job offer. Will I be taken seriously by other 2LTs?

>>65193636
No the max age is 31 and also no one will care for your age.

>joining the military for anything other than pilot
ISHYGDDT

>>65194052
Post a timestamped picture of your wings

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Threadly post

Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.

I can also interpret medical DQ concerns. Give me a day or two to respond, likely.
>branch, condition, meds, etcetera.
I cannot answer questions about how deep genesis goes, MEPS doctors, etc. I ain't a MEPS doctor.

>What do you do?
New US MD Graduate, going into residency

>>65195384
Have fun going to prison for illegally owning weapons as a felon btw.
One routine traffic stop by police and it's fucking over for you.

>>65195515
Why? Because id be taking advantage of the same system that all the 3rd world migrants are learing at and collecting millions of dollars from. While servicemen are paid sub minimum wage.

How do I find a recruiter who is okay with doing some stuff remotely?

>>65195684
just call them? idk what you are trying to get done remotely and odds are most recruiters will want you to come in person for a lot of things
my gut feeling is something came up when you tried going through your local recruiter and he was unwilling to continue the process with you because of it. is that on the mark?

>>65195643
A private 2nd class makes give or take ~$2700 a month and that turns out to ~$32000 a year.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25. Depending on the state it could be higher or lower. We're not calculating taxes either.
If you worked for federal minimum wage your yearly income is $15000.
Your compensation package as an E-2 in the military is worth double your yearly salary.
So while you only have 32 grand takeaway you are living like you make $60000 which is higher than $28/hr. That is before taking into account other benefits like tuition, housing, or training schools.

Your malicious seething falls apart the moment one examines the numbers.

You are still going to prison BTW. LOL enjoy walking on eggshells with the law the rest of your life, retard.

>>65195850
The math that this wanna-be fifth columnist is using for pay is a misunderstanding of "duty, leave, or liberty", and he is calculating an hourly rate based upon an impossible hypothetical of a servicemember working 24/hrs every single day. Of course, he wouldn't apply that logic to other professions that are on-call or work extended hours, because his concerns have nothing to do with pay but are instead fueled by a personal hatred for the military that his tax money funds. Then again, if his highest aspiration is to be on 100% disability, maybe he is NOT paying any taxes due to underpaying or nonexistent employment.

Now watch the smoke rise out of his ears.

my air force recruiter talked about the different jobs shes had throughout her career without changing her specialty and how theres a lot of job flexibility, in other words youre not locked in to a specific job your whole career, how true is this?

>>65195938
idk about air force but extrapolating from the army, it heavily depends on your specific job/rate/MOS and the one you want to swap to and what the manning numbers look like for both jobs at the time you try to do it, plus additional possibly fuckery like chain of command approval.
ex. your job is overstrength and the one you want is understrength? should be doable. your job is understrength and the one you want is overstrength? you're cooked.

>>65195938
I'm having trouble interpreting your post, but as >>65195953 said, you can voluntarily retrain to different AFSCs throughout your career, the ease (or even possibility) of which depends on circumstances.
But given you specified
>without changing her specialty
I assume she's talking about how much an AFSC's work can change based on base/unit/etc. So yeah, the job can vary heavily even in the same AFSC. Using cyber transport (network comms, think routing and switching) as an example, the most generic posting would arguably be at a base comm unit fixing computer network issues, updating switch configs, hanging out in the server room, maybe running cables. But there are a massive amount of other jobs that AFSC does; expeditionary comms, base security systems, monitoring ISR data feeds, (babby-tier) cyber security, niche assignments like Armed Forces Radio, get some other comm AFSC's job thrown at you, hell you could join JCU and go run around in the desert with JSOC. And of course the higher your rank, the more you lean into management than technical work.
Security forces would have been a much better example than cyber transport, but I already typed that out.

Also at some point in a career, an Airman is expected (maybe required, idk) to do a DSD assignment (recruiting is one of those) before going back to their original AFSC.

>>65195953
>>65196016
i see, so its basically about overlap of your job entailing different things depending on assignment/location/needs, i imagine actually changing your AFSC is less common

>>65195850
>places are still paying 7.25 anywhere
>anyone actually works those jobs save for old people with nothing better to do.
>living in a barracks room that doesn’t qualify for section 8 housing
>having to pay out of pocket fot it when they sent you to a moldy room.
https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/army-general-isenhower-mold-barracks-discipline-adulting/
>Being sent to 3rd world shitholes to spread "freedom"

I'll join, get to basic and claim bi-polar and take the free 4k a month. Thanks though.

>training schools
Because jobs in the real world care about your rank or "i did this school where I jumped and crawled over stuff so I can slide down a rope out of a helicopter!"

Recruiters would do anything to make the military sound good. Yet will never explain why people are so happy to get out.

>>65195926
>Of course, he wouldn't apply that logic to other professions that are on-call or work extended hours-
Im guessing you don't understand that in the real world you get paid time and half for that, and can quit whenever you want.

>>65196282
You'd be guessing wrong, Robert. In fact, I can't think of any time you have guessed right. What ever happened to that draft you were moaning about? The 5 billion dead by 2027? The clotshot?

>>65196275
>oh no I joined the military now I cant qualify for section 8!!!
Do you think ghetto black people are browsing a 4chan thread waiting to be convinced to not join the military?
Why the fuck would you care about S8 when you get the VA loan anyway? Are you retarded?

Anyways you arent joining shit because you got a BCD. Have fun with that illegally owned firearm though. Cant wait for you to slip up and spend well deserved years in the pen.

>>65196275
>>65196507
Upon a second read, it occurred to me you may have been trying to say the barracks itself wouldn't qualify for section 8.
Anyway the point still stands, who the fuck is thinking about that except poverty minded ghetto trash?
>jobs in the real world
Jobs in the real world give SO MUCH LESS OF A SHIT about you. Like seriously, have you ever fucking worked a "normal" job in your life?
And you conveniently only address parts of my reply that you can pick apart because you don't have anything negative to say about the benefits you wish you had before you fucked your entire life up.

On the topic of pay, is it the same for across a rank regardless of what job you do? I dont know ranks so for this particular hypothetical, a pilot and mechanic of same rank

>>65196552
He's saying the barracks are lower quality than a house in the ghetto you lunatic. Can you read at all?

>>65197214
Base pay, yes, but there are certain job-specific incentives that can increase your pay.

>>65197216
Oh thats cool that he's saying that. I'm saying Robert is built for BBC in Leavenworth penitentiary.
Maybe Robert should type clearer like me if he wants to make any cohesive point at all.

Hey guys newfag here who the fuck is robert?
QRD?

Please stop deadnaming Roberta. She is a beautiful qween that deserves more respect.

>>65197492
Just another attentionwhore who likes to talk about himself as if anybody knows or gives a fuck who he is.

Bad runner at Fort Sill.
Blue Phase!
I'm making it!
Bum feet but I'm making it! My DS complimented me, genuinely, and I'm the platoon robot, whenever he sees me he just says "Beep Beep trainee."
Thanks you guys, for all your encouragement. Three more weeks!

>>65198411
you got this anon

>>65198411
Those 3 weeks are going to fly by. Looking forward to hearing from you near the end of June

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>>65198411
>my DS complimented me

>Being in the military but not as a pilot
Basically the equivalent of being a janitor in a professional football club kek

>>65199837
Post wings with timestamp.

>>65199837
Post illegally owned M1911

>>65199857
Dat nigga don't even got a CAC let alone wings

how much faster does the army ship you out to boot camp compared to the air force?

>>65199920

Depends on your selected MOS and the space they have available. Let's say you signed up to be a aircraft electrician. The Army might have more a pressing need AND space in their schools for that, so your turnaround time might be significantly shorter.

Getting my PreMeps brief on Wednesday and ASVAB/phys on Thursday. Didn't realize this was a 2 day thing.

>>65199920
If you are willing to accept any job, either will slot you in very quickly.
If you are job locked, either could take a long time but Air Force would make you wait longer for a slot because it's the smaller branch.

Jody will have lots of fun while you're away from home :)

My USAF recruiter ghosted me, so I contacted a recruitment office across the border, in a different state.

He wants me to sign some documents tomorrow!

I'm freaking out. I just hope I don't get rejected at MEPS.

As I get closer to the date, the plan gets more real, and I'm starting to freak out more.

In the beginning I was worried about not doing well enough on the ASVAB. Now I'm worried that I'll do so well that I'll end up qualifying for a cool MOS I can't refuse.

I really could use some advice on pre-signup jitters. This is a big cliff and signing is jumping off of it. Once I sign, I know they own the next four years of my life.

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Nobody likes you /meg/.

bros, I finally took this bullshit exam I wasted like a month of my life studying for, so now I can go back to wasting my life shitposting in /meg/ instead. I hope you guys are as excited as I am. I am so lonely.

>>65201383
>I really could use some advice on pre-signup jitters.
If you're not nervous, there is something wrong with your brain.
Thousands of people dumber and fatter than you sign up for the military and manage to graduate training every year, most of them in branches with initial entry training more difficult than the Air Force's.
The hardest part of graduating BMT is showing up to it. You have to be a total fuckup (or have some underlying medical conditions) to fail it.
When times are tough, think about the lifelong VA gibs you're going to get for a few years of bullshit. Don't think about it until you pass MEPS though, rejection will be extra soul-crushing if you do.
>Once I sign, I know they own the next four years of my life.
I ended up having more freedom in the Air Force (aside from BMT obviously) than I did living with my parents lol. Results may vary.

Also the Air Force uses AFSC, not MOS. The recruiters will roast you if you say MOS.

I'm going to MEPS in a few days, can someone tell me what to expect? Also about BMT preferably for airforce if anyone has been through it recently.

1. Is 33 too old for national guard? I don’t care about having to go to basic with 18 year olds but will my age hurt my chances?

2. If I want to join RED HORSE in the air national guard should I contact the unit first to speak with someone there about it? Maybe they could tell me what to tell a recruiter?

I have a month and some days left until I'm at Fort Sill. Anyone been recently? Kinda nervous about running, even though I've been running a lot to prepare.

>>65202912
See>>65198411

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>>65192529
Can’t a 6 year contract guarantee your job in the Air Force? That’s the only reason I can see it being worth it.

6 years in a dope job is better than 4 in a shitter job. There’s niggas in the Air Force that work 30 hours a week in an air conditioned office. And there’s also niggas that work 50 hours a week in the rain and snow.

>>65192523
What are the jobs on your dreamsheet and what are the jobs offered?

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>>65195643
>While servicemen are paid sub minimum wage.
I think it’s funny that civilians think this is true. It’s this weird, urban myth that military members get paid shit wages.

I don’t bother correcting people. I don’t think they want to know that a married E-5 probably makes more than they do lol.

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>>65196275
A lot of dorms/barracks are really nice now lol, like the Air Force in Korea. They have fucking massage chairs. Germany had a fucking gamer room with like 12 desk top PCs.

>Recruiters would do anything to make the military sound good. Yet will never explain why people are so happy to get out.
Recruiters have usually been in for like 12 years and will retire with the military.

>>65203631
the guy saying that service members are poor has spent a decade calling service members "welfare queens"

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>>65203648
Yes, Robert is a retard that has been bitching on here since Obama was president.

Even so, I still encounter a lot of normies who think military members are poor. They usually cite the number for E-3 pay, not realizing that E-3s are like 19 years old lol.

Military pay is so nice that it makes it hard to leave. NCOs make above the median salary. It’s always there. You won’t get fired. You can always strive for a promotion or commission, but you’ll get paid anyways even if you don’t get there.

Meanwhile, in the civilian world, like 90% of jobs pay literal dogshit. Everyone is fighting over the same 10% of good jobs. You can get fired at any moment. Companies are constantly trying to find ways to pay you less. Trying to replace you with Indians.

People are graduating college and bragging about landing $30/hour jobs. Shit’s bleak.

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>the military is full of welfare queens
>also they don't get paid anything please dont join
>So, /meg/ how do I become like this EPIC "asian mil scammer" by doing 4 days of basic training then claiming 100% disability? I'm gonna be rich by doing this.
This robert guy is a walking, talking, golem.

>>65203876
It is literally insane that this warning even exists. The fact that this fucking guy really spent a decade embarrassing himself on /k/ and only just recently realized that he accomplished nothing and finally stopped coming here is wild. I should say that "here" just means /meg/, as he has instead run away to /CanGen/, where he is now brutally mocked and humiliated by being called an Indian by everyone who doesn't know his backstory.

Genuinely looking forward to him never being brought up again in this general, just so he and all of his fruitless efforts fade from memory like dang ol' dust in the wind man.

>>65204085
It exists because I'm sick of him. If I was aware of more of his activity outside of this board I would make a kf thread about him.
He has some more behaviors that are endemic to this thread but I don't want to accidentally inform him about how easy he is to sniff out.

>>65204085
>It is literally insane that this warning even exists.
real autismos like that tend to congregate here in this place. Every forum has their resident weirdos. There's a /trv/ guy who has a hateboner for SEA for instance and does the same shit, dox himself. /pol/ and /mu/ have the "Pan Piano" simp poster- who for YEARS never stops bemoaning what happened to his beloved piano YouTuber. This place will drive you crazy- if that only thing you have in your life is internet access and anonymity. I wish post ID's were on every board and the algo auto-bans repeat samefags

You're red on medpros anon. What's your plan for going to dental?

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Going to MEPS today I am nervous

>>65204915
It's already past 10, why are you going so late?

>>65204975
Not sure. Im guessing logistics reasons. MEPS is like an hour away from where I live. Told to go to the recruitment office at 12:30 then take a shuttle from there. Staying overnight too dunno if thats normal

>>65205039
Yeah pretty normal. You're going to a hotel.

>get to the office
>sign posted that its closed due to internet outage
>recruiter never told me
Tried texting them but no reply yet. I hope i'm still going to MEPS today?

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Making rank (enlisted) literally doesn’t matter. I don’t know why people obsess about it. Unless you’re some dirtbag that gets stuck at E-5 forever, there’s literally no benefit to being a
>Fastburner
The pay jumps aren’t that big, and the job, for the most part, gets worse as you move up. Everyone is just marching to 20 years anyways, so who gives a fuck?
The juice isn’t worth the squeeze to make rank quickly.

>>65205176
I would much rather retire as E-7 than E-5.
Work now for the pay you get later.

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>>65205221
Nobody except turbo shitbags retire E-5. Even with 10% daily effort, you’re making E-6 eventually. Probably E-7 before 16 years TIS too.

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>>65205350
>Nobody except turbo shitbags retire E-5.
nigga im old and burned out. Theyre not sending me to ALC and the board when I'm in my last 5 months left kek. The Army has a way of burning out their people and instead of awarding them their hard work, they just get shit on. Experiences may vary.

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Hi, I'm in 31, thinking of going army 68a or 68p
Would it be worth it to try and wait for air force for the same jobs

I also have a degree, really just looking for a career change since I got tired of current job and automation is no doubt coming

>>65203621
Whoever told you that is stupid or a liar. The only incentive for a six-year contract is faster promotion.

>>65205641
There is about a 2 year wait time applying with the Air Force, but the Army could get your geriatric ass shipped out in 2 months. Do the math.

>>65206099
Can you do the math for me

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Do I have the right body type for the Army?

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>>65205467
It sounds like you’re implying that you are about to retire as an E-5. If so, then you are a shit turd.

>>65206099
>2 years
are you serious? like for all jobs? im in the process of talking with an air force recruiter right now but ill just go army if thats the case

I had a nightmare that I addressed a Navy O-4 as "Major", she looked at me like I was retarded, and I kept saying "Major" no matter how many times I tried to correct myself

Daily reminder that if you're not in the Air Force, you're effectively a cuckold

>>65206787
Does that include space force?

>>65205176
>The pay jumps aren’t that big, and the job, for the most part, gets worse as you move up.


This varries. At some point you will probably be doing a job thays above your paygrade anyway so you might as well get paid for it.

There was definitely a quality of life improvement for me going from e4 to e5 but your milage my vary.

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am stryker driver
hate army
want to drive this thing instead
don't want to dig ditch with hands first

can do?
if so, HOW do?

Got through MEPS but I need a fucking waiver for my eyes fuck my chud life

>>65203623
Hello. Sorry for the delayed response. I was too caught up on work.

Dreamsheet jobs:
Command & control (1C331)
Cybersecurity Technician (1D731D)
RF Transmissions Systems (1D731R)
All Sources Intel (1N031)
Geospatial Intel (1N131)
Weather (1W031)
Avionics Test Station & Components (2A031)
Aircraft E&E (2A636)
NDI (2A732)
Heavy aircraft integrated avionics
PMEL (2P031)
Surgical Services (4N131)
Open Electric
Open General

Rejected jobs:
Nuclear weapons specialist (2W231)
Aerospace Propulsion (2A6X1)

>>65207983
Med O here, if surgical services is anything like a surgical tech consider that you will have to work with surgeons. It's a good job, but surgeons can be massive pricks

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>>65189661
Army Disabilitymaxxer guide

>>65208075
AI generated slop served by you-know-who >>65203876

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>>65208087
I don’t know who that is

Im just guiding others to disabilitybuxx

>>65208132
Post any proof that you served, or respond with a "yours gets mine" to give up

Should I even bother trying to become a USAF pilot if I'm reaching the age limit, despite having a couple more years of uni to go through, been Baker Acted, and deaf in one ear? It's always been a dream of mine to fly fighter jets and realizing this may be my last chance.

>>65208572
Not possible in your case, not sure if any branch will take you.

By the way, does army just kill you? While at MEPS i saw a dude who said he was 27 (reenlisting after a 5 year break). I'm 25 and to me he looked like he was mid/upper 30s

>>65208572
highly possible in your case, not sure if any branch wont take you.

>>65208030
A lot of medical students I know are massive assholes so I am not surprised that they continue being so if they become doctors.

>>65206255
Don't listen to them. Speak with your Air Force recruiter about possible wait times. The max you'll be in DEP is 1 year and I know people that have shipped out less than 2 months after speaking with a recruiter.

If you require any waivers the wait time might be a bit longer, but in my opinion it is worth it. The grass truly is greener on the Air Force side. Unless you want to go combat arms (special warfare aside) most Air Force jobs translate very well to civilian life if you don't want to be a lifer.

>>65206255
He might be prior service. If you are not, then feel free to talk with the recruiter. The Air Force made goal is fiscal quarter so be prepared to wait a while (think of it as more time to prepare for the military) and be ready to get a assigned a job that might not be your first choice (if you are not okay with that, the Army and Navy let you job-lock).

>>65208994
>The grass truly is greener on the Air Force side
Do you really think working the flightline 12+ hours a day for 6 days a week is better than working a 9 - 5 office job in the Army?

>>65203645
>Recruiters have usually been in for like 12 years and will retire with the military.
Yeah, and the used car salesman has been working for the car dealership for 12 years too.
You must be naive to think the recruiter is anything more than a salesman for the military.

>>65208075
Isn't the VA absolutely notorious for denying claims, in a way that makes United Healthcare look like Santa Claus by comparison? I don't think I've ever heard anything positive about the VA

>>65208132
Which job gets me into the Stargate program?

>>65208838
Thats just white people genes

>>65209023
this doesn't even make sense nigga what are you on

>>65209203
Let me put it simply, recruiters are basically the salespeople of the military. They have quotas to fill, and their job is to convince you to join. Their length of time in the military makes no difference.

>>65209202
Was a black dude

>>65208616
I guess the dream is kill then

>>65209251
Nah that was definitely a white person

>>65206155
Yes.

>>65203674
If the pay is so good, why do most people leave?

Can someone advise me on the SF-86?

I'm scared to fill this thing out. It's creepy.

>>65209446
>Can someone advise me on the SF-86?
You answer the questions, that's it. The form asks about everything the government cares about when adjudicating clearances. What "advice" are you looking for?

>>65209446
>t. 40 year old grown man pretending to be 17 year old new recruit

>>65209446
By the way I'm trans btw if that matters.

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>>65207484
>There was definitely a quality of life improvement for me going from e4 to e5 but your milage my vary.
Everybody gets E-5 eventually. I’m clearly talking about real rank. Rushing to E-6 isn’t worth it, and it’s debatable whether E-7+ are worth it at all. E-9 certainly isn’t worth it.

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>>65207983
Nigga what? You put Open Electrical and Open General on your Dream Sheet?

And he only gave you two actual options that you can sign for?

Also, Nuclear Weapons Specialist isn’t terrible. I’d at least look at that one and consider if it is what you want.

>>65209716
VMAF

>>65209716
>You put Open Electrical and Open General on your Dream Sheet?
My recruiter noticed me putting in a lot of intel and medical jobs and so said just go for Open General. Same for Open Electrical. Was that a bad idea? I am not eligible for S*curity F*rces but I am for S*rvices. What that a bad idea? Am I screwed?

>And he only gave you two actual options that you can sign for?
He just asked if I was interested in it because I selected several 2A jobs. I said no and he sounded annoyed if not pissed.

>Nuclear Weapons Specialist isn’t terrible
Based on what I have researched, there is no civilian transferability and there is a high turnover of enlisted, so it must suck. If you have any info to the contrary, I welcome the correction.

How hard is it to actually be an officer? People keep saying not to join military as enlisted if you already have degree. But idk how I feel about having the responsibility of having to lead people, especially when i havent enlisted before. i already have a hard enough time dealing with retards in group work in my college classes and respecting retail managers that following rules that make everyone's job 10x harder.

>>65208966
Yep, 100% true, but a lot of it is beaten out of them by the 4 year humiliation ritual that is medical school. They relearn their shit attitude as they progress through their career.

>>65210943
Look, here's a hard truth. Everything in life is going to be hard. Going to work is hard. Being a bum is hard. Staying in shape is hard. Having shit health is hard.

Choose which hard you want to live with.

For anyone who has had to get a waiver, what's the process like? For now my recruiter basically just said I have to wait. I'm feeling antsy

>>65211441
Provide anything your recruiter asks for, but yeah it really is just a waiting game. In the meanwhile, keep going to the gym and don't skip your cardio

>>65210943
If it helps, they literally teach you what to do in OCS and BOLC and you will work with a senior experienced NCO who can give you advice when you first get assigned as a platoon leader. You're not expected to just show up knowing how to lead and manage the minute you sign a contract.

>>65211461
This sucks. I was really excited to get my job assignment and ship date. Guess its fine, I still havent told my family that I'm enlisting lol. Need to figure that out.

How does anyone here pass their security clearance?

>>65209716
Watching Invincible season 1 and being inspired by the way Omni-Man carried himself unironically improved my posture more than four years in the military did.

Is being bored with your job/career a bad reason to join?

>>65210943
If you didn’t want a career that sees you supervising people, why did you get a college degree? That’s like level 2 of any white collar career. You will be managing people within 5 years no matter what.

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>>65209042
No. I got my 100% pretty easy.

>>65209710
>everyone makes e5 eventually.
Not necessarily true. Depending on how shit your leadership is you may not. Eventually you may get some that will try, but by then you'll be too burned out to care.

Hi, /meg/. Just stopping by to say after careful consideration and taking to several recruiters about the reserves, it would put my 100% at too much of a risk.

>>65213116
Not him so this isnt his answer but:
>society is hellbent on selling 4 year degrees to EVERYONE
>Many people follow this path without questioning why
>Due to student loans and time spent persuing degrees, graduates cant afford to not work in the field they studied in (this is despite many being forced not to in the current job market)
>Thus people who don't want to be management and graduates who don't like their field of study are forced to work a career they don't like but chose
And before you say some shit like "just choose a better major" most people find out that they hate their career field after graduating and by then they are 5-6 figures deep, 4 years in, and 5-10 years from paying off their student loan.
Obviously everyone cant be a manager, but society makes it seem like everyone can and should be one so everyone gets in deep long before they realize they didn't want the life they built.

>>65209429
They tell you how good the pay is and post all those pay charts, yet don't tell you that well over $1000 a check bets taken away in BAH and BAS if you live in the barracks. And no. Most barracks don't look like >>65203645

Most barracks in korea are barracks that were built around the era of the korean war and have had only minor upgrades since. The people telling you this have either never been in the military, or are recruiters that need to con you into joining.

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>>65213558
>$1000 a check bets taken away in BAH and BAS
Sybau lying ass never served.
You are almost 40, 17 years removed from the military that kicked you out and lying every sentence because you fucked your life up and chose to become a NEET living off of the government with your dying parents.
Just sybau.

>>65213113
unless its like software development where the career is dead, yes

>>65213570
Post an LES that literally has the BAS and BAH as a deduction if you live in the barracks, neverserved. It's intresting how my VA disability check is more than i was making as an e4 living in the barracks, and even a bit more than I was making when I was outside of it after I was married.

>>65213575
Not everyone is robert, robert.

>>65213601
Its an entitlement (meaning addition to pay) not a deduction, retard.
What are they deducting from a tax free allowance?
>It's intresting
ESL typos.
Another hallmark of Robert posting.

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>>65213620
It's money you'll never see if you live in the barracks. The whole "you get $3,000 every 2 weeks, Bro!" Is bullshit. Post LES

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A scene dedicated to DS's being fucking frauds.
How common is this?
https://youtu.be/WW_cDDPRpx8

>>65209042
They're slow, incompetent, forgetful, and require a hard head to put up with, but they're not as actively malicious as healthcare companies. They're shit because they overwork their employees and expect them to perform miracles with a paper sack of dogshit placed on their desks, not because they demand the cock and ball torture of every service member.

>>65213637
>>65213694
>>65213757
>>65213836
Mark Milley mogs you.
You are built for BBC in Leavenworth Pen.

>>65213637
Why are you pretending not to understand the pay structure?
Oh yeah you're Robert.

>>65213877
Post LES.

>>65213891
You first, BCD.
Or are you going to continue to pretend you are "92Gfag" (he never calls himself this btw)

Isn't kind of weird that the ONLY time we ever see deleted posts in this thread is when Robert shows up and claims he's "the other guy"?

>>65213980
The only time "92G" shows up robert shows up to cry soon after.

>>65213637
This dipshit is actually arguing that new recruits think they are getting BAH by living in the barracks.
LOL no one believes this.

>guys the military steals ur pay!!! Its like making minimum wage!!!! Aaaahhhhh!!!!
Meanwhile an E-1 can pocket literally 100% of his pay if he wants, has no rent or utilities, pays zero dollars for health insurance and 25 bucks a month for a $500k life insurance policy, gets almost everything he pays in taxes back in his returns, and has no responsibilities beyond doing his job and doing what his team leader tells him to do, and can't be fired unless he fucks up really bad over and over. Compare to a dude flipping burgers who has rent, electricity, water, health coverage, and more to pay from what he makes and can be let go the first time he shows up late.

>>65214007
This dipshit will post about how military pay is great and post the payscale that doesn't show the take home when the BAS, BAH, and other deductions haven't been applied.

>>65214117
>the military is so great people are excited to leave it as soon as possible
>the military is so great the only time recurrent meets or exceeds quota is when the economy is in shambles
>the military is so great recruiters have to lie to make it sound appealing
>the military is so great the army had details for people to play popular video games on twitch as a means to groom children into joining.

>>65213945
When did robert get an e4 100% disability card and a 1911?

>>65214143
So why aren't you contacting your senator to ask for service members to be paid better? Whining on 4chan clearly accomplishes nothing. Just look at what happened to poor Robert and how he went insane and shot himself in the head after he realized he wasted a decade of his life here and was forgotten after taking a week off of from "trolling"

Why did my post accusing someone of being Robert get deleted

>>65214282
Yep, it all goes right back to Israel. Look, you can try your best to pretend to be Robert (rest in piss) but you just don't have the same schizo energy or commitment to "the cause".

>>65214143
Privates are not getting BAH subtracted from their $30,000 a year salary.
Come up with a better lie.

>>65214145
>1911
It's your daddy's gun you're posting because you are not legally allowed to own firearms due to having a BCD.

>>65214552
You can't have any guns. You live in the barracks and dont get your bah.

>>65214548
Youre right they never see it at all because they live in a 10x10 cell know as a barrack room.

>>65214552
Was Robert's dad an e4?

>>65214604
>E-1's can't be married
Who instated this rule? Is this another "Hegsethian reform"?

>>65214642
>e1's living in the barracks get bah and bas

Why is this dude so mindbroken over the barracks?

>>65214652
Idk its really weird because he was dishonorably discharged before he could even serve.
Thats worse than a never served. What a loser.
17 years removed he still thinks of the army every day. This guy should be in a prison instead of roaming around free. Clearly unmedicated schizo.

>>65214652
Because you miss out on quite a considerable chunk of change to essentially live in a cell that wouldn't qualify as section 8.

>>65214660
>Because I'm a NEET dead end who lives in section 8
ftfy

>>65214649
Who said that?

>>65214673
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105797

https://www.dmi-ida.org/knowledge-base-detail/Military-%20Barracks:-%20Poor%20-Living-%20Conditions%20Undermine%20Quality%20of%20Life%20and%20Readiness

https://www.centreforevidence.org/article/20230901-military-barracks-poor-living-conditions-undermine-quality-of-life-and-readiness

Lol

>>65214684
I remember when Robert relied on this talking point pre-pandemic. This man truly is a broken record.

>if you join the military, you're going to live in a shitty building!
As if this hasn't been clearly and prominently depicted in every single movie and tv show we all saw prior to joining. Nobody has ever promised a Ritz Carlton experience... but maybe your recruiter lied to you and you're still butthurt a decade later?

>>65214696
So which is it? Are the barracks shit? Or are they like living on a resort?
>>65203645

>the military is so great recruiters have to lie about how awesome it is.

>>65214684
I'm not reading all of that shit.
I'm gonna just enjoy my life in the army instead. lol

>>65214703
Who said they were a resort? Wait, do you think that a rec room with ways to relax equates to a 5 star resort? How fucking bleak is your life?

>>65214684
Isn't this now Kegsbreath's responsibility? If he doesn't fix this, are you going to stop worshipping him?

>>65214727
>moving the goal posts
>the barracks is awesome!
>lol the barracks sucks. Everyone knows that
>they have rec rooms while simultaneously falling under what would condemned in the civilian world.

>>65214727
I'm sure the budget will go to making sure the Israeli troops are comfortable and they'll end up qualifying for VA benefits.
>>65214282

>>65195170
I have an old suicide attempt on record. Like from when I was around 15. I'm 28 now and have been fine for many years. It says on record though that I have major depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, and oppositional defiant disorder (I have no idea where that one came from). Is it possible for me to get in?

>>65214998
Again, what is your objective here?

>>65213841
NTA but it's not controversial to say the VA sucks. There's a reason the "your injuries aren't service related" meme is popular. It's pretty well known. It's almost on par with saying the DMV sucks

>>65195170
Will that army let you in if you gots a narrow urity?
I wanna know if king of the hill is accurate

>>65215786
You already asked this a while ago. Why are you recycling the same gag?

>Will the
no stop asking
>Can I get
no stop asking
>The pay sucks
strong words from a neverserved.
>I'm mental
dont join.
>barracks suck
ok dont join
>you are charged for the barracks
stop lying

In Robert's words he makes the VA sound like a free candy store where people plot to pillage from the government before they join. [Even though if it were true, with his anti-government ideas he should be encouraging this]
Then when Robert wants to use the VA as a negative talking point he says that VA disability is for 'welfare queens'.
This is despite the fact Robert himself is a welfare queen using SSI and NEETing in his elderly parents house.

>>65215988
Intentionally crippling yourself is retarded. Intentionally crippling yourself because you think the VA is a free candy store is double-retarded

>>65215998
He doesnt think that though. That would be normal.
He thinks you can just bullshit claims and get 100% P&T.
Totally disconnected from reality.

>>65214368
NTA but you have to be willfully naive to not notice the fact that Israeli interests influence US army interests. Even boomers know that, the only difference is they think that's a good thing. Look at the war with Iran. I'm not one of those doomers that go "WW3 TOMMOROW", but things are very much heating up.

>>65216005
Agreed

>>65215988
How many times a day do you think about Robert?

>>65215988
maybe Robert is just upset because he thinks he will get more gibs if the military gave less to its folks? His whole "plan" makes zero sense, as his ideal world is one where the US disbands its military, surrenders to a foreign power, yet somehow he ends up getting free money.

>>65216016
It's funny how this thread is so obssessed with this Robert guy. It's also used as a thought-terminating cliche.

>>65216098
No, it's a constant reminder that one fat faggot comes here every day in a vain attempt to dissuade people from joining the US military, and it's always been THE SAME GUY who gets incredibly butthurt at how easily he gets spotted. He can't do anything about it, he has no rebuttal, and it completely negates his messaging because everyone knows it comes from a place of personal resentment caused by getting kicked out of BCT in 2015 because he loudly proclaimed to his drill sergeant that he was going to start indiscriminately shooting women and children the second he stepped foot in Afghanistan. Motherfucker was called out for being a liability and has now spent the past decade reaffirming the Army's decision that he is a complete whacko with severe mental illness.

>>65216112
>it's always been THE SAME GUY
Is it REALLY the same guy, or do they just accuse anyone being negative about the military of being this Robert guy, and obviously you can't prove or disprove it on an anonymous forum.
Also, is he dead or not?

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>>65216130
It literally is the same guy. Same links, same messaging, same memes, same unhinged behavior, same complaints when he gets called out, and same insistence on sewing the idea that it's actually somebody else and somehow never actually him.

If Robert was dead, there would literally be no shitposting in these threads. Robert knows this, which is why he came back and got very very upset to see that this thread, just as the recent ones, was doing just fine and moving at a slow but steady pace with no mention of his antics.

>>65216139
>that it's actually somebody else and somehow never actually him.
Sounds like a catch-22. If the poster says it's him, it's him. If the poster says it's not him, it's actually secretly him.
Basically, it's like the "(yes/no) ___, I'm gay" trick

>with no mention of his antics.
This is a ridiculous statement. A quarter of the posts in this thread are about this Robert guy. This is the second time this collage has been posted.

>>65216173
Robert sees that nobody is talking about him so he starts talking about himself. This is an observed phenomenon, and your insistence on disagreeing with me is hallmark Oppositional Defiance Disorder, which poor Robert has been diagnosed with. Poor Robert also really thinks he can convince me or anyone else that anybody else gives a fuck about him enough to independently talk about him

Let's put it this way - if Robert isn't coming here, that means Robert was successfully counter-trolled to the point that he ran away like a little bitch. Robert's own narrative, this idea that he isn't here anymore, is a concession of defeat and paints him like a failure.

>>65216139
>DD FORM 214, AUG 2009
This faggot is 17 years removed from the military. If we believe his basic training discharge story, this makes him 35 at the least, closer to 40 more likely and atleast 10 of those years were spent just on /k/ spamming shit in this thread.
Imagine the mental illness that is getting fired almost 20 years ago and monitoring conversations about your ex-job so you can talk shit about it. Normal people would just move on.

>>65216187
>your insistence on disagreeing with me is hallmark Oppositional Defiance Disorder
LMFAO
"If you disagree with me you have a mental disorder"
Genuinely made me chuckle out loud.

>>65216196
see >>65216190
Robert is verifiably insane. You are disagreeing with me on every level because you have a mental inability to see the world any other way than your own. You have a very opaque agenda and lack the capability to further it. You suck, you're fat, hella gay, and, frankly, deserve the decade of suffering you have brought upon yourself by never letting go of this terrible chapter of your life.

>>65216196
>Hey doctor, can you certify me as mentally ill? I have depression and I dont want to work. Thanks for the NEET bux bro.
>*later online*
>I'm not mentally ill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>65216196
Uh no sweatie, pretending to be someone else and trying to defend your "4chan reputation" means you have a mental disorder.

>>65216204
Lol I'm not this Robert guy, but I guess by your circular logic, that means I'm secretly him.

The real mentally ill one is the guy who thinks some lolcow is personally targeting him, all because some anon pointed out the obvious circular logic and constant posting

>>65216207
>>65216215
I'm starting to think this Robert guy actually is dead, and you guys think he's alive because you call anyone Robert. What exactly makes you think I'm robert?

>>65216216
You're still not getting it, Robert. YOU are the one being targeted. Take a look at all of the hypnotic repetition that you have fallen victim to, and now you voluntarily refer to yourself by a disparaging nickname given to you by the person that has been hijacking your ODD and compelling you to spend a decade coming here despite losing your original objective years ago when the mods confirmed /meg/ will not be banned for being off-topic.

You think this is all about you, but it's not in the way you think. You are feeding a psychological vampire but proclaiming that the vampire will eventually choke if you just keep giving him your life force.

>>65216230
I feel like I'm talking to a mental patient who thinks the doctor is his abusive father or something. I'm not Robert, but that doesn't work for you because in your mind, that means I'm secretly Robert. You will keep thinking anyone who doesn't agree with you personally is Robert.

>>65216243
When has "I'm not Robert" ever worked? You are aware that a normal person would have walked away from this conversation a while ago, right? If you have no stake in the game, leaving me high and dry is the only way to get back at me. Instead, you just keep feeding me and feeding me, as if this whole "I'm not Robert" shtick isn't in my best interest. I always know how to extract another (You) out of you.

>>65216251
When he cant win he just posts memes he steals from leftist reddit >>65216256

>>65216265
>claims not to be a leftist
>calls it "twitter"

>>65216271
Cool, so which branch of the US military are you joining?

>>65216287
Nice, any specific MOS you have in mind?

>>65213585
Most office jobs are dead dude. Nobody is advancing because of DEI or AI.

>>65216306
See how many (You)'s you gave me even after you tried to change the subject? I told, you can always get another (You) out of you.

>>65216251
>When has "I'm not Robert" ever worked?
So tell me then, what works?

>>65206155
Untermenschen genetics. Definitely part nonwhite.

>>65216330
My grandpa was half Mexican, and the rest of my ancestors are from England and Germany, which would put me in the 95th percentile for whiteness in the US Army. Also, there's nothing wrong with not being white.

>>65216329
Depends. What is the objective?

>>65216314
Nah, keep toking my fat friend. The brain has cannabinoid receptors for a reason. "Pissing hot" means that you are a hot commodity and every division will be bidding on the opportunity to take you in!

>>65216361
Crashing this plane...

>>65216372
Mods determined /meg/ is on topic, so Robert's plan of being such a nuisance that it gets /meg/ banned in the hopes that it'll quell Robert's off-topic behavior is a bust.

>>65216366
Ask Kegsbreath. Robert is his #1 fan.

>>65216380
Yeah. Come down to a recruiting office and we can figure something out. Be sure to take a shower first.

>>65216301
>DEI
When a Democrat is in office the Army goes full Portland DEI. Remember the transgender admirals or the officers in the pup play masks? Hegseth is in control so that has stopped for now, but if a Democrat gets back in charge, obviously they would go back to the Biden status quo.

>>65216379
>/meg/ doesn't know about baneposting

>>65216387
Oh, Robert made sure that we all saw the same pictures over and over again, so we all remember.

>>65216394
>WTF HE DIDN'T RESPOND WITH A CANNED REPLY LIKE A REDDITOR WOULD?! WHAT A CASUAL! I CAN DETECT THE OPENING OF THE TDKR BY JUST WATCHING A ZOOMED IN GIF OF CIA'S NECK VEIN FLEXING WHEN HE SAYS BANE!

>>65216397
No comment needed
>>65216401
>I CAN DETECT THE OPENING OF THE TDKR BY JUST WATCHING A ZOOMED IN GIF OF CIA'S NECK VEIN FLEXING WHEN HE SAYS BANE!
how did you know?

>>65216406
Beats me, apparently I'm "too young" to know what baneposting is according to >>65216404

/meg/ Military Enlistment General?

/meg/ Military Enlistment General?

/meg/ Military Enlistment General?

/meg/ Military Enlistment General?

>>65216404
Sneed.

>>65216411
The US military, ladies and gentleman.

I thought this thread was supposed to encourage people to join. Haven't you guys learned that "My name is Emily, and these are my two moms" doesn't work with the primary demographic of the military?

>>65216429
Carry on then

>>65216421
Unfortunately, Robert single-handedly changed the narrative so now recruitment is down to zero and everyone is getting 100% disability and draining the DoD's budget dry. The US military is crippled and defeated, all thanks to the efforts of one very obese NEET.

Bake the next thread with a mark milley image.

>>65216438
But recruitment can't be up, because Robert spent a decade of his life on 4chan doing everything in his power to bring it to zero. Robert can't fail! Maybe it'll just take another 10 years! We just need more pictures of trannies and non-whites in uniform! More jpegs from /pol/! More complaints about muh jooz!

>>65216446
Oh, Robert's getting much worse than Milley this time.

>>65216456
The Soviet Union kept saying the same every year... until it collapsed.

>>65216438
>>65216449
Recruitment is up because a conservative is in the White House and Hegseth is traditionally masculine. Obviously that will appeal to people who think about going into the military.

But when Dems are in control, it's a legitimate concern. Would you really want to be led into into battle and asked to die, by a tranny General wearing a pup play mask?

>>65216476
xir yes xir oohrah

>>65216468
>he thinks China is anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist
Confirmed for knowing literally nothing about China's international powerplays and hyperfixation on expanding maritime borders

>>65216450
My bad, I meant to say bake the next bread.

>>65216497
Wait so China IS NOT expanding their maritime borders? China IS NOT buying out ports around the world and establishing their Rust and Belt initiative? Crazy, so that means all of their announced plans to gain dominance of the seven seas are actually a failure and they accomplished nothing.

>>65216509
He does

>>65216521
Aww, I didn't respond to your talking points so you had to fill in the answers. Poor Robert hates when nobody wants to play his games.

>>65216509
I do. When you make a new thread you bake a new bread.
Sorry you don't know this epic oldfag slang.

>>65216539
see >>65216462

>>65216541
Thread has been baked

>>65216452

>>65216452

>>65216452

inb4 Robert complains this thread didn't hit 300 posts, like it fucking matters.

>30 posts deleted from you know who
Extremely pathetic how often he egregiously breaks the rules.

>>65216690
He has been doing this for so long that he has figured out the windows of opportunity between moderator shifts just so he can maximize his "social time".

>>65216005
didn't that asian dude fake bi-polar and do just that?
>>65215963
>you are charged for the barracks
you lost out on collecting your BAS and BAH when you live in the barracks. so your pay looks a lot less like the pay scale advertisement and more like $1800 a month.
>you don't pay to have the mold taken out
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/10/19/discipline-problem-or-underfunding-army-struggles-find-solution-decrepit-barracks.html

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/fort-polk-barracks-mold/

>everyone that is even remotely critical of the military is robert.

>>65217352
>everyone that is even remotely critical of the military is robert.
They genuinely think that. And when you point out how illogical that is, schizoanons double down

>>65217352
>so your pay looks a lot less like the pay scale advertisement
it explicitly does not because the pay scales are for BASE PAY, only which is separate from BAH, BAS, or any other entitlement

>>65217352
I would lead with the second link, because it's more recent.

It seems like Fort Bragg itself has mold, and other serious problems, as recently as August 2025
https://www.cityviewnc.com/stories/over-half-of-soldiers-are-dissatisfied-with-barracks-on-fort-bragg-army-tenant-satisfaction-survey-find/

>>65217408
Other people have come here and levied informed criticisms, notably 92G (who Robert tried to pretend to be). The difference is that Robert's complaints are on a very small list that he likes to rotate after he gets completely bootyblasted, and they don't come from a place of personal experience (which tremendously upsets him to be reminded that he fucked himself out of a military career).

Robert is easily identifiable and no amount of gaslighting can change the fact that when mods clean up Robert's posts, it just so happens to wipe out the ENTIRE anti-military discussion. Why would banning one man erase every criticism in the thread if there were somehow multiple people who coincidentally repeat the same talking points at the same days and times?

"It's not Robert" has never worked and only calls further attention to the fact that one very obese and angry person is waging a personal crusade against the US military on 4chan.

>>65217468
>it just so happens to wipe out the ENTIRE anti-military discussion. Why would banning one man erase every criticism in the thread
But that's simply not true

>>65217502
Scroll up and witness the holocaust that was inflicted on Robert's posts. Now here's where this gets even weirder - this guy drives around Peoria, Illinois and switches cellular towers so that he can ban evade, which is why you do still see some of his older posts even after around 40 of his posts were deleted today.

I understand you really REALLY want at least one person here to believe Robert went away, but that dumbass has been psyopped into coming here in the vain attempt at "defeating /meg/" after his ODD was hijacked by an Army 37A who gets his rocks off on fucking with him.

>>65195170
I'm 29, looking to enlist in the Army. Was on antidepressants from 2013-2023 but no suicidality, psych ward visits, nothing like that, perfectly stable since getting off of them. Do I have a chance?

No don't join you are mental I dont want to serve with you.

>>65217514
Shifting the goal posts
You went from "all anti-military posts are Robert!!!" to "Any remaining posts are actually Robert doing a mobile operation"

Let's play Occam's Razor. Which is more likely, some NEET is doing is an advanced operation seemingly 24/7 for decades, or, more than one person in the entire US is against the US military

>>65217531
Type another paragraph robert.
Maybe you'll convince the last genuine 18 year old lurker on /k/.

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I'm not going to die for Israel

Why is this general even allowed on /k/, it's super current events and extremely inorganic to suggest to other people on 4chan that they should get a job.

>>65217534
You're genuinely retarded
>>65217536
Answer, the last word in your first sentence

>>65217531
Occams razor is easily applied to Robert's presence. A repetitive and repeated pattern of behavior which we can knowingly prescribe to one obese loser who doxxed himself makes more sense than "multiple unrelated people shilling the same message". Just take a look at >>65217536. The exact same complaints he has been making since before the pandemic, but you're gonna tell me somebody else is coming here and constantly bitching about Israel?

Get real. Nobody buys the idea that Robert shot himself in the head and somebody else decided to larp as him.

>>65217540
Yeah, I'm sure no one else is against the US military in 2026. Get real, come back to reality, it isn't 2003. The idea that the US military is under Israel's thumb is shared by every young person under 30

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>>65217540
My guy I don't know who Roberts is and you're going to have a hard time convincing people he's the only one that complains about Israel. Like 50% of board discussion from /v/ to /tv/ to /ck/ is about the Jews and on /pol/ 90% of threads that get above 5 posts will bring up Bibi. I'm sorry, you're not delusional you're just probably a paid shill with a Sissyphian task.

>>65217548
I know you like to keep repeating this line, which is what gives you away as you are too fucking dense to understand how easy you reveal yourself, but as I said, your criticisms do not come from personal experience and it is painfully obvious.

>>65217550
I don't have to convince anyone; I just enjoy pissing Robert off and derailing his off-topic discussions.

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>>65217557
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>>65217550
Exactly. If anything, 4chan itself was ahead of the curve, I've seen "Zogbot REKT" threads since the late 2010s

>>65217557
What line? Pray tell, what line?

>>65217558
Ahh, you're really delivering the throwback with that Inspect Element trick. You failed to convince anyone with this trick because you could only ever pretend to be "the other guy", as if two people are simultaneously coordinating without actually coordinating.

Robert, I can spell this shit out to you and you still won't get it. YOU wanted to talk about unsatisfactory living conditions on base. Instead, you spent all day going back and forth with me. You thought you were sliding, but you were the one that was slid.

>>65217569
You guys really do have a cope for anything. It's pretty convenient, that means no evidence can actually prove otherwise.

>>65217578
So then there's no point in trying, is there? You wouldn't go to an echo chamber like /r/army and spend a decade trying desperately to repeat the same "jooz r bad" message after getting banned hundreds of times, would you? Of course not, that would be fucking mental.

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>>65217569
You have to be getting paid to have the time to make up this shit

Or I guess you COULD be truly unemployed.

>>65217581
Robert really wants to believe that a recruiter is paid to wrangle him, but in truth these threads are just made by regular users. I don't know why everything has to be some grand conspiracy with people like this

>>65217585
You keep talking in a way that makes it seem like you're not responsible for all these posts but I can see you arguing in two threads

>>65217589
This is an anonymous board, so how would you know?

>>65217591
(Pro-tip: they can never truly answer this)

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>>65217591
Because I'm actually a writer and highly autistic and can recognize speech patterns and styles with extreme ease, which is mostly because of my fascination as a child with certain fantasy writers which inspired me to create my own writings and such. Everyone has unconscious ways of speaking that are if not necessarily unique to them at least unique enough that when they post repeatedly and in longer form content you can, or at least I can, follow along and realize when someone else has either joined or dropped the conversation, or when one poster is basically necrobumping a thread until someone else shows up. It's very obvious in generals who the regulars are and who the randoms are. It's not foolproof, it is speculation of course, but it's actually very difficult to change your writing style without actively committing to it and even then you need to be aware of your own writing style to know how to change it.

Also the lack of more than one person defending Israel is a dead giveaway when it's you because I legit have not seen more than one person even trying to do that. Frankly, that's a bigger tell than the way you repeat certain phrases, insult and mockery styles, and dismissal conditioning.

>>65217608
You know what's wild? This is eerily familiar to what I told Robert when he got upset years ago about being easily spotted despite finding ways to augment the unique poster count. So similar, that it invigorates me to know that my words still echo rent-free in his head years later.

Anyways, I can just tell you to use the same logic with Robert and you can't reasonably refute it, but you will try to because your objective is to convince everyone here that Robert is dead so that you can.... do the exact same thing anyways? Like, I don't get it, if the Robert name upsets you so much, why do you call yourself Robert?

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>>65217613
This was my first post >>65217536 I've just been listening to Backrooms slop after my friend dragged me to go see the movie and I wanted to see if there was anything fun happening on /k/. I dunno what level of psychoanalysis you're on but I'm bored and dreading going to work tomorrow. I guess I'm minorly amused by your fascination with some tripfag, maybe he's even real, who knows. I'm still not dying for Israel. Can't. Fucked up my back too much as a kid. My level of psychoanalysis is that you're either a paid shill or an LLM, hard to tell these days.

>>65217613
>unique poster count
It's tremendous BS that they got rid of that.

>>65217626
>comes to /meg/ despite being unable and unwilling to join the military just to run interference for a complete stranger who he claims to have no knowledge of but talks exactly like
Yeah Robert, enjoy "work" tomorrow, I'm sure you have plenty of threads to troll. /cangen/ misses you.

>>65217629
Agreed. We really need unique poster IDs, as that would REALLY upset Robert because he would have to go back to his "2 man" shtick with his computer and cell phone, rather than driving around Peoria, Illinois switching cellular towers.

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>>65217636
Sorry I didn't know I wasn't allowed to post here and laugh at you

>>65217639
I can't imagine you even have laugh lines because you are completely humorless, Robert. See you tomorrow!

>>65217646
Actually I'm a furry and I live laugh love at Speed Racer lately because this shit is hysterical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7DUoUCg03E

>>65217660
Thank you for reposting this summary of how it goes every time Robert tries to claim he's not Robert.

>>65217468
>he pretended to be 92G
dude, 92g literally posted with time stamp
>>65213359
unless robert somehow became an e4,(which 92g explained why he stagnated at e4) got 100% disability (which i believe he posted about the day he got it), and got the same 1911 92g always posts, it is fair to say that 92g was ITT for at least one post.

your hard on for robert is turning into the same obsession that captain ahab had for moby.

do you really think 92g is the only person with legitimate critiques of the military? do you also feel literally anyone else that has even a slight negative opinion of the military is robert?

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>>65217678
I love coming to niche communities because this happens all the time and you can just say one thing and now you're the resident lolcow or the guy ranting about the resident lolcow and everyone invested in this is too set in their ways and looking for their foe that they've wasted years of their life.

Fuck me one time I offered to write something for a group, mentioned my inspiration and motivation to do so was a specific character, went to go drive, and came back and there was an entire flamewar going on with people accusing me of being a specific lolcow, and that my offer to write a section was fake and "I" never existed and it was just the resident shitposter who also liked that specific character. As if there was only one person who could mention that. It was very offhand too, attached to a much longer post, but that very inclusion sent a bunch of people on a witchhunt. Very amusing in retrospect, at the time it was a feels bad man moment.

I did not contribute to the project.

>>65217678
I have a sense of humor, so I think it's funny and I am laughing with you.

>>65217688
Why do you think 92G has to do this? Because in the past Robert has pretended to be him, and 92G thinks Robert is cringe and gay. Robert would drink 92G's bathwater if he could because he knows 92G's statements are actually valued as they come from a personal experience. The fact that 92G does not fuck with Robert shows that there are multiple "I hate the US military" perspectives but one of them is far less valuable than the other.

>>65217660
Screenshotting because it's so accurate

>>65217721
There was already a screen cap of it floating around but I couldn't find it

>>65217725
Well now we have another one

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>>65217660
>>65217721
>>65217725
>>65217737
Here's the OG

>>65215199
>>65217520

Look up MHS genesis and how to opt out of HIE's. There are guides for this. If you were ever taking controlled substances (adderal, benzos) this will not work as controlled substance monitoring cant be opted out of.

Lie your way through and hope none of your records slip through.

>>65218429
If I have an injury that causes them to look deeper am I fucked?

>>65218429
Does this still work if you you need a security clearance?

>>65218492
Read the SF86, goofball. Everything they care about for clearances is in there.

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>>65213757
I went to basic around this time.
all my DS's were pyscho killers. They probably shouldn't even have been in the Army anymore. All of them were fucked up from Iraq. Then I went to Iraq and now I'm fucked up. Circle of life.

>>65215199
Could need waivers, talk to your doctor. Could be hard. Suicide attempt is pretty hard to get around if it was documented.

>t. Dr. Goy