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QOTT: How do you feel about MRAs?
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Don't let the thread die this time mofos goodnight
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>>42458197
The social status, having your words be taken seriously
>>42458549
You clearly have never tried, even with small growth it's easy to suck on one, seriously it uses your base monkey brain neural pathways to find a nub and suck on it
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>>42457893
Has anyone else considered identifying as something other than FTM, while still pursuing the typical FTM medical interventions? Sometimes I think about saying my gender is nonbinary. I don't really feel a sense of community with FTM people since most of them irl are not like me at all
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>>42459196
I really just want to be seen as myself, id'ing as FTM has never benefitted me, it only leads to people walking on eggshells bc they assume I'm neurotic about being perceived as male, or being put into a box sexually (assuming I act like other FTMs sexually), it's never given people more information about who I am or how I act the same way that id'ing as gay or bisexual has
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>>42459196
I feel you. Branding yourself a label always tends to be useless in our case. I just resigned myself to letting people come to their own conclusions.
People think I'm a femboy or mtf or just a gay dude or a lesbian, anything under the rainbow. As long as they are a good time to be around I let em make their own assumptions
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>>42459196
Only with the purpose of lying to my family.
I sometimes wonder if I just tell them ‘I’m a girl interested in taking testosterone’ they’d take me more seriously and I could just get on hormones whilst passing to everyone else around me. This isn’t what you mean though anon.
What you’re experiencing isn’t that uncommon and there are a number of non binary people and even butch lesbians who pursue FTM medical treatments. Though, when you say you don’t relate to the FTMs around you, do you mean in terms of personality or goals?
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This is so fucking gross. Im hand washing because im not about to let anyone see the stain. The liquid feels greasy or oily. Like watered down mucus or slime wtf is this. I swear I'm getting dehydrated from how often it's happening
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>>42459440
I hate to be like "I'm so much more valid than these other guys" but the 3 ftms I know in person are all really fembrained. They also have no male friends and can't socialize properly when I introduce them to my male friends/are scared of them. They just don't feel like guys
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>>42459572
I understand not feeling a sense of community and how that can be frustrating anon but if your problem stems from not relating to their personalities then I don’t see how IDing as nonbinary would be a fitting alternative.
There are more trans guys in the world than the 3 you know IRL and there are even more men as a whole you will not relate to, cis or trans. You can’t let other people’s ‘fembrainedness’ determine your own perception of yourself. It bothers you that much then just go on T and go stealth once you’re far enough down the line with the effects.
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>>42459726
Same way I don't id as a woman bc girls behave differently than me, I don't want to id as FTM if they have differently gendered behavior than I do. Now, most nonbinary people I've met are the same lol, but at least with nonbinary people are supposed to look at each person differently rather than judging everyone the same. Also, I'm curious why you assume I haven't started testosterone. What I've written is clearly from the perspective of someone who's already transitioned
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>>42457893
Idea: I'm sure there are cis gays with a fetish for guys becoming more muscular, right? We should start a group with a collection of gay gooners and a bunch of skinny poons and the gays can encourage the poons to work out, and they will because they crave gay male validation. Gays win because they get a bunch of images of skinny little things becoming roidballs and poons win because they become muscular
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>>42459763
You’re referring to 3 people. There are plenty of FTMs that aren’t like that, there are plenty of feminine cis men. You don’t relate to cis women because you have no desire to be perceived as or live the life of a woman and don’t relate to such, but the ‘point’ of being FTM is that you’re seen as a man in some way. Yes there are a number of feminine FTMs that haven’t adapted to male socialization, but there are a number that absolutely have. You’re treating everyone under that label as a monolith based on a handle of people as opposed to the more accurate definition of the label.
You don’t have to ID as FTM for any reason, I’m not trying to convince you to. Just trying to understand it a little. Also my bad for mistakingly assuming you aren’t already on testosterone, I fucked up my reading comprehension a little there.
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>>42460783
>trvke
tops dont care about the hole they care more about what the guy looks like, so a hole that is tighter and can be used at anytime you want without having to clean out is a huge benefit.
also you can just do anal with a trans guy if you want, its still there.
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>>42461088
>but the only way to have 'real' sex is to have my genitals touched
Man I just gave up with that whole bullshit and let myself get penetrated, luckily it feels really damn good. Would I love to be the top? Yeah of course but I am lucky I got a guy who doesn't care about these things, sex is sex
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>>42459970
Only if the viewers are required to pay monthly. There's no point in making free FtM masculinization porn.
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>>42461552
without the chick part. i want to breed guys as well. breeding is just cumming inside someone isnt it. i like getting degraded and im gay but i dont want to be a woman and i want to stay wholly a dude and not get misgendered.
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>>42462411
hot..
>>42462466
you like breeding ftms? and you consider them men?
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>>42457893
>QOTT: How do you feel about MRAs?
based on picrel i think you meant mres in which case i only tried one once as a kid and thought it was alright. if you actually mean mras i think they're whiny and annoying.
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>>42457893
>QOTT: How do you feel about MRAs?
I wish they primarily cared about men's wellness and not just hating women. I've gotten irritable about people arguing anti-feminism by using male DV survivors as a talking point. Having been in the position of needing a mens shelter or cops who gave a shit about DV of men. IME those guys have contempt for battered men, homeless men, poor men, whatever--they don't really care about building to help each other. They just want women to have less.
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Women are Sceptile
Women are Sceptile
Women are Sceptile
Okay nightly prayers done, good night.
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>>42458197
Honestly, it's the secondary stuff. Male socialization is so fucking easy I don't get why cis guys struggle.
It's genuinely so nice to have friend groups that aren't browbeating over the most stupid shit
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>>42458197
my iron levels were bottomed out for a long time, taking testosterone was the only thing giving me energy to live somedays. Also I always feel warmer 2-3 days after a shot which is nice this time of year
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>>42468077
If your boyfriend is too good for you but likes you, I’d say you beat the “sexual marketplace” theory.
But in terms of you being a good boyfriend, get to know what he wants from you and find a fair compromise with what you want. You could even make him feel comfortable around you enough that you get to see some of his flaws.
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>>42468990
*sigh* breeding… I know.
But this last time I jerked off, I rubbed the shaft like a cock and came imagining cumming with it stuck in a pussy.
I’m bisexual in terms of genitals but I’ve lost some of my attraction to women after I got dumped by several mtfs as part of their transition.
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>>42468077
Do what middle eastern men do when they feel their women are too sexy.
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>>42457893
Hi, can I get feedback on this >>42469075
Arigato!
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>>42468170
Nah, we're still together.
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>>42458197
The duality of being a superior male on HRT and ignoring the fuck out of foids who crave validation for their worthless existence while being able to dress up like a doll and pleasure another man. I'm perfectly content with this balance, I'd hate being an actual foid.
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I love my aching dick so fucking much. It's such a feeling of bliss...
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>>42469476
Why is it aching?
>>42469298
I don't get it. Corn?
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>>42461613
What a fucking dream..
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>>42472148
DHT cream will give you the closest biological equivalent to experiencing "boy cramps". men occasionally suffer concaved prostates due to cumming too hard after abstaining sexual activity for a period of time which sends pain up the pp nerve
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back update
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I'm going to make a server and it's gonna die in a matter of days once again
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I went to somewhere
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I would have been a cishon had I stayed
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>>42476602
birdie was an animation meme youtuber notorious for drama and pooned out and got called out for attempting to rape his ferret
he's basically pooner chris chan
>source: mainly me being chronically online and keeping up with this shit
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>>42476772
oh... no...
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>>42476811
They are illegal in my state. I don't really think I would want one as I've heard they smell bad. In the past I've had 2 different dogs, a bunch of frogs, and some fish. I currently just have one fish, also two snails in his tank
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Popping video?
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>>42468170
That happened awhile ago, yeah
>>42469129
Who tf r u
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transmen can enjoy hello kitty
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>>42476903
Absolutely :P
Good for you man, weed isn’t for everyone
>>42477690
Why look like an ugly lesbian when I can egirl/femboymode
>>42477700
Lowk wouldn’t mind that
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>>42477728
You remind me of the gamestop girl that went like viral on twitter, you could start an of and make some decent $$
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Hi guys i need your help I was trying to figure out my cats gender identity and so I asked them "if you identify as a girl (my cat is afab) meow..."
And my cat said NOTHING.
then I said to my cat "if you identify as a boy meow" and they meowed LOUDLY URGENTLY and CLEARLY
Ive changed his name from pandora to Patrick and I'm trying to figure out gender affirming things for my cat now so he doesnt kill himself can you give me any help
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>>42477741
Lol facts
>>42477743
Yoooo he’s cool, I rlly gotta get up to date with Genshin and play
>>42477746
What kind of animation memes are we talkin’
>>42477753
> you could start an of and make $$
Lol
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>>42477789
like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou8T7FJA0kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zTTXIDyHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRVKn-V2Qno
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>>42477753
i'd be down to buy G's feet pics, though ill need a sample
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>>42477821
Middle school me would’ve loved that shit icl
>>42477824
Honestly, boredom at this point since I’ve come off T. A bit of trolling on occasion too.
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>>42477982
Interpersonally they’re more bearable than women on average (in my experience)
Plus guys are much easier to please. Women are quite demanding as partners. They’re hot as fuck though and smell real good and scissoring is a rad activity .
>>42478054
She was cute when she went thru recovery, but she went back to looking like a (barely) walking skeleton
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>>42478078
God I fucking love women. The way you can feel the heat coming off their skin and how smooth they are like seals. If you've never 69'd a woman and buried your face in your thighs as you nut you're missing the fuck out
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>>42478078
>Women are quite demanding as partners
They don't ask for much, G... Flowers and a date on Valentine's Day, going out together, a nicer than usual gift or maybe take them somewhere unexpected once in a while. What trouble are you having?
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>>42474952
Standing to piss is retarded unless you're outside or in a public bathroom. No matter how good your aim is, you're still depositing minuscule piss droplets on everything within ~6 feet of the toilet. I don't want to clean my bathroom every day, and I don't want a bathroom covered in a thin film of dried piss.
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>>42478284
>The drama they bring is what bothers me truly
Malebrained, this is true and honest
>>42478285
None of that requires any effort if you're already living right
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>>42478310
Thank you
>>42478372
I speak the peoples truth, we should all be gaydens and kiss NOW
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>>42478430
I wouldn't date women if I was rich. My point is that women are indeed way more demanding than men, and it's not like I don't want to buy my boyfriend gifts, I do; it is the fact women demand you do this kind of shit otherwise they lose attraction to you that I take issue with. They don't just want a partner, they want a human wallet.
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>>42478367
Much like cis dick, everyone thinks this the first time they see one, until they meet a guy attached to one the want and imagine what you could do with access to it. Some look much, much worse than others. Sometimes this is able to be mitigated. I agree that the extra tissue surrounding and the hole itself are unsettling but in my ideal world this is solved through surgery.
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cant jerk off at all today even tho past days been cumming like a few times, wtf ! if it matters, tomorrow (thursday) is the day i do my injections so idk if its like that my testosterone isnt at it peak or whatever
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>>42478284
I figured out recently while discussing sports, video games, and nooticing social patterns with the guys that the only shared hobby truly expected to be learned by all foids is socializing. To be able to do it as a skill, to demonstrate discernment and persuasion, is a sport much like football: it requires a mix of practice, practical knowledge, and natural talent. This is why women talk about other people I think. It's like when guys play smash or ask about sports teams or video games as an icebreaker. It serves the diplomatic purpose of allowing you to flex your own abilities and assess others, and bonding from the positive experience of the information trade.
I might be autistic.
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>>42478574
>Much like cis dick, everyone thinks this the first time they see one
Not me im amab and normal dicks look natural to me
>I agree that the extra tissue surrounding and the hole itself is unsettling
Coming from someone with male anatomy it looks unsettling to me because the bottom of the tpenis is like open? If that makes sense like its not a cylinder like a penis its got kind of a groove in it that makes it look injured and its giving me major cringe because it looks like injured basically but maybe if I was more used to looking at it or had one myself I would not feel this visceral pain reaction because I would know its not infact injured but psychologically it is making me cringe
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>>42478632
>amab
This heightens the aversion I'd bet. Regardless of attraction to dick the similarity to but clear distinction from what you are very obviously familiar with is guaranteed to trigger the uncanny valley without exposure. Anecdotally most ftms I've discussed this with have felt the same way about their own genitalia. My personal cope is that after comparison the sensations are essentially identical aside from the extraneous ligaments. The shit that bugs me physically (lack of mobility, extra fatty deposits, the horrible cleaving down the middle) can be fixed. There's then the issue of finding a partner who is okay with what is essentially a micropenis, but I have that covered already.
My dream procedure that hasn't been invented would be a type of extended meta where they pull forward the entire clitoral structure into the neoshaft. All of the erectile tissue is there so an implant would no longer be necessary, the tissues are functionally identical and differ only in form, and you could see maybe 4-5in of length I bet. We all have to rely on hope for something I guess.
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>>42478756
Any kind, i meant it as in getting off to the visuals, because women tend to jerk off to erotica
>>42478770
Are you typing with the same hand your jerking off?
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>>42478732
I do. I like stories and all, but I lie down on my bed and hold my vibrator under me against my tdick and watch stuffs like picrel (videos, i need to kinda see their fat jiggling and stuff) or fat porn artwork... I like jiggly pawg ass a lot now...
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My friend was ftm in middle school we were best friends but then we had a disagreement over a Tumblr post that said Shakespeare's plays were all written by a black african little girl and that Shakespeare the white man was illiterate lol my friend who was ftm defended the post and said it was probably true and called me a racist for saying it was bullshit
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>>42458197
Before T, I had a rare medical condition. I had frequent ovarian cyst ruptures. It was the most painful experience in my life and it would happen monthly during ovulation. That pain is said to be worse than the pain of going into labour/childbirth. Doctors dismissed it, not investigating the cause, instead prescribing laxatives and painkillers which did nothing. I took T and it immediately stopped. Later I had screening done only for discussing surgical options and the doctor noticed evidence of the ruptures, and even said they couldn't remove one of the ovaries, because it fused to my bladder. He said my ovaries were completely scar tissue. So considering that I couldn't remove both of the ovaries, testosterone is the only reasonable way to stop the cyst ruptures. He stressed that if I ever decide to go off of testosterone it will be painful just like it was then, and life-threatening, and I'd have to consider more complicated treatment options. My favourite part of being a man is not feeling that excruciating "unexplained" pain. I have nightmares about it coming back.
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>>42478931
what do you think of these character designs
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>>42478949
What race do i look the best as
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>>42478968
how about this one
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>>42478852
>cyst ruptures
>prescribes you laxatives
They thought you were backed up
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>>42478986
The feet again look like booba :s
Anyway I figured ill tell you guys my stats and then check my privilege
Im schizophrenic, autistic, adhd, hiv, hemochromatosis, and fat
My privilege is that im white and i own an xbox one
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This is a video they made of me in gaygen as a big beautiful woman with two black studs feeling me up we really like to use ai over there do you guys do anything similar?
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>>42478822
Got any more?
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These are my medications for hiv and schizophrenia lol
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Fine I will actually leave but you know its a sorry state of the world when we are kind enough to let you people into our community (even though you have nothing to do with being gay) and then you shun gay people its really kind of fucked up that we let you into our spaces and you treat us this way
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>>42479082
Blessed
Cute in the face, thick in the waist, that's my taste
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Hey
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i need to live with terje in his room, chained to his bed, delivering 3 cartons of cigs and 4 packs of mr noodles a week
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>>42479138
Haha that was my cashapp pfp for about 2 years
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Update on that (pics taken 2024)
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>>42479188
I didn't know that was your room
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>>42479265
are you the one that drew this
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>>42479159
>Flipflops on the bed
>no sheets
>using dirty laundry as a blanket
>Dasani bottle cap on the bed
>Cheetos, regular not hot
Why did your people let you live like this white boy
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>>42479280
I did not
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>>42479282
Thanks. I got out of the hospital with new meds in January 2024 and it took about 4 or 5 months of living out of my living room not knowing how to clean that up until I decided to block 4chan on my phone and delete all my social media apps.
Turns out boredom and isolation is the best motivation.
>>42479296
Idk but I'm glad I was able to go back to work full time and make good money so I don't have to deal with family anymore. I think being dependent on them was a purely transactional relationship that both sides hoped and prayed would be over
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Yeah that was pretty bad
I think my fate would probably be something more like Renée Good if I didn't quit drugs
Am I the only one able to spot other tweakers by their faces? Only reason all these crazy white people are out there rioting in the ice is because Mexico and Venezuela are where the good drugs are sourced
Theyre stuck with a shit high because their "meth" is sourced from Billie Bob's trailer now and that explains the tard rage
>>42479431
Yeah it's probably time to get laid
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i have to become him, i have to become him as much as i can, i need to have his life, i must become him, there's nothing else i can do, i need to swap bodies with him, i don't care if my mind would stay intact, but i need to swap bodies with him, i need to see his face in the mirror, i need to see touch his face with his hands and feel it myself, i need to feel what he feels like, i need to know, i need to know what has happened, i need to know what his parents are like, i need to know what his sisters are like, i need to know what that spot on his back looks like, and the scar on his forehead, and the curve of his spine, i need to know if that tooth is still crooked, i need to know what his hair feels like, what it feels like in his body, i need to know how his wrist aches, i need to know how it feels to be left handed, i need to know how he feels, i need to watch over him, i need to watch him, i need to see him, i need to see him, maybe i wouldn't be satisfied swapping at this point, i need to be a ghost and watch him, i need to protect him now, after he has protected me, i need to do something, i can't keep doing nothing
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You want to know the truth? If it were possible and not seen as weird I would switch my dick for a pussy. I am also envious of the way that many ftms are cute twinks.
Due to this envy I am going to continue to be transphobic in real life even though I do actually see ftms as men. Not that I will ever admit it irl. You couldn’t waterboard this information out of me.
>t. cisgay
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>>42479246
what is the white stuff on the floor?
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>>42458197
no idea im still being treated as a woman irl. but I like when I'm treated like a bro.
and to play games.
and read books.
pratically the same as always.
i also like to walk a lot.
there are times i feel more of a repper because i refuse to cut my hair again. but i just like my hair big. like a samsom type of guy.
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I'm supposed to get a pap smear but I don't do piv sex so the risks are really low.
There's a place near me that can do it under partial anesthesia, but I still don't really want to do it. For some reason you have to be over 25 to do the self collected swab so I think I'll just wait until then. They really should come up with better methods. I probably have vaginismus, so anything in there just feels terrible
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actually feeling self conscious over my voice for the first time since my transition cuz my psychiatrist (evil fucking bitch that I only see so I can be prescribed my benzos) said that my voice sounded weird and not even like a man's. which is funny because despite her hearing aid she still has noticeable trouble hearing people so what would she know about how my voice sounds like. stupid bitch. lol
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>>42482658
25 is the usual age anyway, so you’re fine to wait if you have no symptoms. I have the same issues as you and I just took a xanax for mine (self-administered tests not approved yet in my region) and it wasn’t nearly as bad as I expected. Very fast as well.
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>>42482976
One time I went to a gp because I had some kind of swelling around my eye. Doctor comes in, looks at it, asks me if I'm trans and if I'm on hormones, tells me that's definitely sexually transmitted herpes and starts asking me how many partners I have and what genders they are. Told him I'm not sexually active, didn't believe me, made me get an std test anyway, and sent me home. When the test came back all negative, he told me that it was probably just a stye and that those are harmless. Your voice is fine. Medical "professionals" are just weird to us sometimes.
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8 month progress
as Garibaldi said in B5
>This is the moment I was born for!
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hii eff tee ems, i need a haircut
>>42479051
im on abilify too but cuz bipolar, ur dose is the highest ive seen anyone get
>>42476875
hii G :3 love ur makeup and ur hoodie tuff asf
>>42476500
i saw you in a server my gf is in and she showed me u and said you look like an ftm larping as a hon mtf
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>>42484196
I'm on Abilify 30mg Seroquel 400mg
Prn hydroxizine 50mg trazodone ??
The high dose of Seroquel is really calming
I have bipolar 1 like symptoms, also depression anxiety ADHD
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>>42478226
I'm a grower, not a shower. When I'm flaccid, it's like an inch or two so peeing while sitting can be more annoying since I have to push my cock down and aim it into the bowl which also increases the chances of pissing on my balls.
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>>42484968
Also, I forgot to add, if I don't push down properly the angle can cause my piss stream to go through the gap between the seat and the bowl causing me to just straight up piss on the floor while sitting.
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>>42482658
I have the same problem, can’t get a pap even with a pediatric speculum. There’s some places that’ll fully sedate you if that would be more helpful than partial.
It sucks, but it is important unfortunately
>>42484196
Hiiii, thanks :33
How ya doin rats?
>>42484322
Seroquel is the best drug to ever be created
200mg of that and 1000mg of depakote keeps the mania away
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>>42484968
>I'm a grower, not a shower. When I'm flaccid, it's like an inch or two
Yeah same
>I have to push my cock down and aim it into the bowl
You have to aim regardless
>increases the chances of pissing on my balls
wtf is wrong with your balls, man
How are you failing the IQ test of pissing this badly?
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Life goes on
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>>42488421
i could
but i won't
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>>42479817
I would probably also do this. I don't really have twink envy though.
The real tragedy is not being able to switch between the two or have some kind of highly-functional intersex thing going on. Vagina with a decent-sized dick is the dream.
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>>42488493
Tangentially related but I wonder if there are any cases of a cis woman having srs to get a dick or a dick and a pussy
I think they can't go from afab vagina to dick and pussy because of some kind of complications though
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>>42487849
Seroquel is the shit i used to take that as a sedative. Instant ko
>>42488622
Why in god's name would you do this. That one gooner chick on redgifs/of with the poppers and the T cream on her clit prolly might get meta someday she seems nuts
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>>42484322
same on diagnoses but im normal
>>42485153
nah
>>42487849
im doing awesome! first week of classes started this week :) what have u been up to lately?
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>>42488085
>You have to aim regardless
It's harder to properly aim with just a downward motion and you can't see yourself than it is to aim with your hand grabbing and you can see where you are aiming.
>wtf is wrong with your balls, man
I have big balls.