weird way to phrase the peloponessian war but ok

i think at a hundred to one it's the afabs regardless of fitness unless they're, like, all disabled

>>42532870
Tenderqueers probably win. The 1000 just get mobbed by chariots and arrows.

Take those out of the equation and the tards have shot at winning if they stay in formation and don't break ranks. The first side to break ranks usually loses despite any advantage.

the men

this is just silly 1000 humans without firearms cant beat 100,000 humans regardless of the circumstances

>>42533197
they all have the same weaponry

>>42532888
>unless they're, like, all disabled
yes, they're afabs

>>42532870
Amabs. Trebuchets and longbows. You also have to remember afabs are not brave when their life is on the line and gore is occuring right in front of them. You ever see a piece of a human on the floor? Looks like steak but you know it's not beef

>>42532870
>100,000 vs 1,000
Where is this taking place?? Thermopylae???

>>42533197
100:1 is more than a bit stacked, but with the right tactics/strategy it can work out.
>battlefield that limits the width of the front, so only 100 or so people can contact at a time
>defence in depth, so instead of a single battle it's a series of skirmishes with time to rest and recover between
>catastrophic breakdown in discipline, causing a rout and massacre of large number of forces
There are (reportedly) cases of that last one in historical battles where more casualties were caused by the stampede as people trample each other trying to escape from a tight fighting position than by combat. Picture those stadium/transit disasters where people get crushed trying to get out the narrow exits.

>>42532870
The AGPs, no question. They've all played one trillion hours of autistic historical wargames and will rank and flank by pure instinct while the afabs cluck and run around aimlessly like chickens.

>>42534169
I wish I could watch!

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>>42533197
Cortes only had like 12 shitty arquebuses when his men conquered the Aztec empire. OP said that this is a battle and not a campaign, though.

>>42535997
He also had tens of thousands of fighters and mercenaries from other groups who opposed the aztecs. And smallpox.

>>42532870
The average human female is weaker than a small dog, it's the whole reason small dogs aren't allowed to compete in women's sports. One amab easily kills 100 afabs, 1,000 even, but I suspect many will be spared and enslaved to work the fields ahead of this year's potato harvest.

>>42532870
The AGPs. Hands down.
> You wrote buff AGPs. So manmoders are on the menu, even post-HRT.
> AGPs are more often than not autist. And they have male autism. /k/, 40k, ex-mil and things like that.
> AGPs are more often than not traumatized. Double points for combat arms ex-mil with previous live combat experience.
> If you have at least a platoon of ex-mil there, then the amabs would have tactics, and some would be likely to survive the engagement.
> On the amab side, hurt to own forces and losses are but a tactical nuisance.
> Meanwhile the non hrt gender afabs are good in daydreaming and writing fanfiction. So female autism.
> They will bicker and would be entirely useless with pre-modern weapons, the best of them would have martial arts experience, and non-lethal weps. While the AMAB side would likely man and run FIRES (catapults, ballistae) which is the thing that gives them a chance.

>>42533197
Actually this, the ratio the US army uses is 20:1, but that assumes trained soldiers on both sides.

>>42533213
We didn't restrict the tactics, though, and prep time. If we restrict the tactics as well, even phalanx would be sketchy. If we don't, trench warfare with pikes and swords are on the menu, as well as arty barrages with catapults and that gives a massive advantage to the side competent enough to use it (amab).

Realistically, the world would win. The battle is likely to cause massive casualties to both sides.

>>42536337
I want to watch small dogs compete @ women's sports.

>>42537951
You can find some recordings of these events from central/south america, i've seen underground MMA fights out of mexico between female fighters and those weird little hairless dogs they have down there and the dogs win every time.

>>42538079
damn

>>42536337
>I suspect many will be spared and enslaved to work the fields ahead of this year's potato harvest.
Why bother when half the number of dogs can do the job just as well?

>>42535997
cortes also had 100,000 angry tlaxcalans who would have been fighting the aztecs even if he never showed up

>>42532870
obvs gendies > jeeps because of sheer weight of numbers. and sheer weight of weight even if weapons aren't involved. not much someone can do against a dozen people sitting on them doing their best group derek chauvin impression with another 90 waiting in the wings

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>>42532870
i really wanna kill someone with a sword like that. sometimes i wanna do a beheading but i think doing it like the rider-waite's ten of swords is most natural. i think id prefer like, a relatively typical man in his 30s, maybe just a little more prone to his instincts than the average man. not drawn out or anything, like basically just a subdue + execution. i forgot to read the OP
t.ranny

>>42533197
Firearms would actually make it easier for the gendersomethings to win. Any tard can point a modern rifle and shoot. Being at all competent in pre-modern combat is far more based on physical prowess and psychology.

>>42540886
you sound moidbrained as heck

>>42542312
He's an illustration of why the AGPs will win basically

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I feel like everyone glazing the afabs ITT is forgetting one important thing

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>>42545768
god made amab and hema, not afab and shefa

>>42545841
kekkk

>>42535997
>>42536021
>>42540190
Firstly, Cortes got multiple waves of Spanish reinforcements over the course of his expedition (such as when the force under Narvaez sent by Velazquez to arrest Cortes for treason instead defected to Cortes): He initially only had around 500 fighting men, but in total by the end there would have been 2000-3000+, including significantly more men with arquebuses (and I'm not even sure the dozen figure was true of the intial force, it might have been much more then that), not to mention they also had slaves, cooks, etc who had to fight not included in that 2k-3k total IIRC

Next, yes, there were armies from allied local Mesoamerican states, but A: These numbered in the low hundreds of thousands, not merely tens of thousands, B: it wasn't just the Tlaxcalteca (they wouldn't have been able to contribute 100,000 men alone) importantly C: Most of those states which allied with Cortes didn't actually oppose the rule of the Mexica in the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan, and only joined Cortes opportunistically after Tenochtitlan was already crippled by smallpox and had more to gain and less to lose by helping take it out to hopefully gain or retain status in the new regime for having helped done so.

Tlaxcala hated the Mexica, sure, because the two states were at war, and as such Tlaxcala joined Cortes from relatively early on, but Texcoco, Xochimilco, Chalco etc didn't necessarily resent Mexica rule (which was actually loose and hands off, which left subjects with their own political identity, interests, and agency, which enabled opportunistic side switching)

See: See pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 + the other posts I link to within that /k/ post and the two posts of mine directly preceding that one

>>42533197
most females can't even run. it's like an adult fighting 100 toddlers

>>42543946
true

>>42532881
who is the delian league and who is the peloponnesian league, in this analogy? neither of them seem to fit the "100,000 afabs" category. unless you're parrotting the "athenians were effeminate gay men" meme

>>42542312
>>42543946
some deep, critical analysis coming from the billion lions vs the sun committee. thank you for your prognosis. sybau loser ass redditors

>>42550597
amab lions or afab lions?

>>42551618
amab

>>42545841
Lmao, this one is actually an underrated banger