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http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbuymeacoffee.com%2Falyssavt%2Fno-explanations-instructions-feminizing

https://wiki.sumianvoice.com/wiki/pages/voice-examples/

>pasta:

•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonance
https://acousticgender.space/

▶ Resources MTF:
--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

•Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/

•Supplement L's guide with...
False Folds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdsaPJdU24s [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
•Vocal Fold Thickness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNnBRBfOVY&t=146s [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
--- Larynx Stuff ---
•Whisper Siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Noi2qERus [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]

•General overview/swallow and hold method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWWevU4A5mU [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]

•Big dog/small dog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4dPWKVt9o [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open]

▶ Resources FTM:
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•http://www.radical-musicology.org.uk/2008/Constansis.htm
•https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24155064
•https://pastebin.com/CCw9czC0

>>42534349
https://voca.ro/15WB3s8FCM8F

>>42534380
your voice sounds amazing, whyd you get banned off discord lol

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first day voice training

https://voca.ro/1dg20McPXTQj

>>42534481
https://voca.ro/18TiJ5U7whfR

l rambled on a lot owataa

>>42534533
whenever im pissed at someone I usually do that typa thing and report them and they get banned, discord is ass with that kinda thing

anyway its fine I love listening to yap your voice passes really well

>>42534607
awwww thank you!! discord is ass anyway lol people should stop using it frankly

>>42534516
is that sewerslvt in the background

>>42534380
>>42534533
pass
>>42534516
no pass yet also i couldn't hear you too well over the noise but good job

https://voca.ro/1i03P5Zs0SsF

>>42535064
any advice?

>>42535064
I get this too! Especially with people who knew you with a masc voice lol.

Your voice passes.

Heyyy, so I'm trying to regularly get advice as I'm a beginner.
I'm just trying to understand resonance (I know the rest sucks)
Am I on the right track?

https://voca.ro/1gFTiFsXhgBf

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>>42537184
it does sound like you are getting there! women speak with a "smaller" mouth - that's to say they don't open as much. so do that, it gets you a fair bit oftge way thnrn

>>42542633
Thanks! Ok I see I'll try to work on that

too lazy to review but if people need help later today i have a treatment later so i can give detailed responses https://voca.ro/15hULjAEwyH0
https://voca.ro/1gYj1HEcWAYT

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Posted here before, better mic this time
https://voca.ro/1lkbgv0t2Mv1

Pooner seeking feedback, need someone with lots of voice training experience to point out issues normies might not notice.

>>42551136 here.

>>42534380
Sounds great, passes consistently through the whole clip.
>>42534516
Pretty good, but clocky. You drop into a lower pitch at the end of the words and that throws off the flow
>>42535064
Cute + passes perfectly
>>42537184
Sounds like you’re on the right track to me, very different from a classic male voice but obviously not passing this early on, keep at it.
>>42545143
Good speech mannerisms but clocky, I hear a lot of strain in both higher and lower pitch, but it’s far less obvious when speaking in a lower pitch. Using your voice consistently throughout the day and talking to yourself (or playing online games) is the best way to get rid of that strain. That’s what I did, and I’ve lost a good portion of it albeit not all.

Wish I could give better advice but I’m fairly unfamiliar with MTF voice training. These are just base impressions

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>>42534349
https://voca.ro/16SPKCoRv5Ls

>>42551307
why

>>42551650
why not :3

>>42551713
George droid

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>>42551307
droydbump

bump :( come review some voices ppl!!!

https://voca.ro/1jqNhkZmadWn
i wanna be soft and cute and lovable and adored but i can't help but feel like such a big scary monster
>>42551136
this sounds like a cis guy who's doing the thing where he like tries super hard to artificially deepen his voice. it 100% passes like 100% passes like i almost don't believe you that you're trans it's unquestionably a male voice. the only feedback i'd have is that it sounds like you're trying a little too hard. like if it was like 20% less deep and low, it would still be undoubtedly male and masculine, but it would sound less forced. but you don't sound like a girl trying to do a manly voice you sound like a guy who watched some stupid tiktok about some voicemaxxing assert your dominance how to get girls to like you something something buzzword buzzword whatever. but perfect pass. i wonder why you even post your voice when it passes so well.
>>42545143
i hate to say this because it's so mean, but i feel like you have a little bit of the "fagcent". especialy in the second clip. it's okay. it's a lot better to have a fagcent then to just sound clueless. you'll get there. my biggest advice for pitch is practice practice practice. it's not really about 1 specific exercise, it's just about doing a lot of exercise. if you use your voice 24/7 and every day and are consistently trying to raise your pitch it will get better on it's own.
>>42537184
imagine where your voice is coming from out of your body in physical space. try to feel the vibrations and focus on it (you can even use your hands to help with this). imagine that when you speak, your voice is all the way deep down in your chest and it's dark and heavy. if you raise it a little bit, up your neck and to the back of your throat, projecting from there it can feel kind of hollow and empty. less unsupported, croaky. then from there, try to bring it forward, down your tongue and to your lips. so it's buzzy and clear and warm. that's where you want your resonance to be.

>>42537184
>>42553848
like if you're smiling, and your smile is so beautiful and powerful it's energy is reverberating throughout space. MEN speak from their chest and women speak from their mouth and people who are having a hard time speak from the back of their throat. if you're having a hard time with wrapping your head around this, try doing a kermit the frog impression. that will be more nasal and that's of course not how you wanna sound but it gives you an idea of what it feels like to have your resonance all up front. i like to imagine it as a little ball of light in my mind and it's like where my voice is radiating out from. im not perfect with it either though i slide back into my throat a lot too. it can be scary. but if you can master this it does a lot for passibility and femininity and all that. it also does a lot for pleasantness. you wanna reverberate. but not like masculine ooooohhh uuuuhhhh. like feminine mmmmmm, aaaaaa. hopefully this makes any sense at all.

i will rate more people tomorrow

>>42553848
Believe it or not, I’m not forcing the pitch any lower.
Just today I had someone tell me they thought my vocal cords were shrunken with my height and that was why I sounded “zesty” to them. It bothers me, so I’m trying to eliminate everything I can. I wonder how I can get it to sound less forced

>>42553907
"zesty"? what does that mean? i don't think you sound zesty. I think you sound like a 23 year old white american guy. a 23 year old guy who is typically masculine but also wants everyone to know it.

>>42553931
It means gay, they were saying I sounded like I was suppressing the fagcent in my voice. It passes as male, but when I speak it raises “abnormal” flags for a lot of people in my experience, which is why I’m looking for a superschizo who can point out everything normies can’t consciously recognize but that gives off the tell.

It’s good to know that my voice sounds forced, I’ll try to figure out a way to undo that since I’m not modifying my pitch, just my mannerisms. Last time I posted here people said I sounded too monotone so I tried to fix that in the recent clip.

>>42553943
it might help if you provided a longer clip. in the short one you provided you're very very monotone and consistent throughout so it doesn't have a whole lot to pick apart. more monotone than most cis guys. if you're having an issue with people questioning your voice i would suspect that it's due to an issue that isn't present in this clip, maybe when you're being more expressive or expressing a certain emotion? i don't know what i want you to record it could be anything really, singing, roleplaying a customer service interaction, just telling a story maybe. anything really just show a little emotion and lets see if it makes you sound a little different. unless you feel strongly that this really is a representative sample of how you speak 100% of the time.

it could also be your voice matched with how you look, maybe you don't sound how people expect you to based off that? i have no idea what you look like though so that's just a random guess.

>>42553984
I’m somewhat retarded so it’ll take me a while to come up with a story to tell, unfortunately I can’t record anything tonight or I’ll wake up my roommate, but hopefully you see it if I post on this/ a future thread in the morning.

I’m not sure why I’m more monotone than most, I think I improved a great deal from the last clip with expressiveness and it may just be an issue of recording my voice alone with nothing particularly emotional going on

I’m definitely more expressive with other people, but I tend to do that through voice impressions/voice acting out characters I’ve made up for the bit, I’m not sure that I naturally have a lot of variability. Maybe that’s a part of the uncanny issue, but I still don’t know what I do to give off a gay impression.

What do you think is causing it to sound forced? I’ve been training out imperfections for a while now, so I’ll be diligent with anything you can give me.

>>42554004
honestly it's just the pitch and how monotone it is. but like, it doesn't sound fake masculine. it sounds like someone who's already 100% masculine putting in a little extra effort to go overboard and try extra hard to sound tough and not show any femininity. but it's hard to extract so much from one short little 15 second clip. it just sounds a little robotic.

>>42554027
I appreciate it, I think the root of a lot of my problems is needing to become NT and have vocal mannerisms come to me naturally. Most of my voice training has been to sound natural and human (and train out the faggy ftm intonations, but I didn’t have much). I wasn’t socialized as either sex and didn’t have much interaction with people, so I’m a bit of a retard and need to put in some extra effort to appear normal. I really appreciate you and everything you’ve provided for me in this thread, it’s nice to have an outside perspective since I can’t fully understand everything that’s wrong with my own impression. I’ll work on sounding less robotic and strained.

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had a nice time with u in skribbl poonanon

>>42551136
hi basedbert
you sound literally fine theres nothing wrong youre all good

>>42553943
lol basedbert schizo

>>42534380
plap and date
>>42534516
plap and regret
>>42535064
PLAP PLAP PLAP AND LOVE
>>42537184
X
>>42545143
Plap
>>42551136
Plap and impregnate
>>42551307
X
>>42553848
Plap and wife

>>42554427
fuck off chaser scum

>>42554436
just based on how cute voice is + need to breed the ftm out of duty

>>42554436
silly seething poonie. plaps u

not very good at giving feedback so i wont. do like hearing other trans peoples voices though its nice
https://voca.ro/1oSAgkdceO5b

post to know if ur PLAPMEAT or not

>>42554532
no plaps but close

>>42554540
:'(

>>42554532
really good, i dont think pitch is the problem. maybe getting rougher on the lows? but honestly 90% passing over the phone.

>>42553848
very fem, but shaky and breathy enough that it sounds kind of artificial. 10 for very pleasant listening, probably 80% passing.

>>42551136
gigapassoid. obviously. 100% passing.

https://voca.ro/17LC09mpI9Bs
im such a fucking voicehon someone kill me

>>42554427
awww tysm i already have women plapping me though its fine <3

bumping for more cute voices

https://voca.ro/1dmfSr0BZkms

>>42551306
>>42553889
Allright thanks I'll note that and keep working!

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https://voca.ro/18xlRsNglmOR
had to dip into a friends closet to record T~T
sorry if i was rushing a bit lawl, im a fast talker unfortunately

>>42555102
your voice is fine desu. it really sounds like you have to focus really hard on it though, like it's really breathy and measured. you really need to focus on resonance and just using your trained voice as much as possible (protip putting yourself in social situations where you need to use trained voice helps you acclimate a lot faster). you'll get the hang of it i'm sure! your pitch is also like rly good and doesn't need any more help

>>42553848
holy oh my godddd i actually love your voice. please please record like an audiobook or something i could actually listen to it for hours. 10/10 for like, my tastes. passing wise - your resonance is like extremely good and your pitch is definitely fine (though for the normies maybe being a little higher pitch would help?). like the other nona said it's a little breathy and shaky and personally i think it's a little monotone which isn't great for passing stuff but overall 8/10. just needs more practice so you sound more comfy with it (and pitch too MAYBE but i love how ur voice sounds rn so. take from that what you will)

>>42551136
woah.. i don't know as much abt ftm voice training (obviously) but your voice is obviously like gigapassing. the like deep pitch and gravelly like fry is a rly rly good mix. there are like minor nitpicky things like maybe (like extending your trailing "s" sounds when you say this or advice) but even still it just reads like a slightly fruity guy. otherwise no notes 10/10

>>42545143
i like. maybe a little clocky, unfortunately - your intonation has that tinny, slightly faggy vibe which makes it sound a little unnatural (with the breathy/forced quality of your first clip especially contributing). i think that you were right in that your second clip has a lot more weight and just honestly sound a lot more natural. otherwise more practice fs

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>>42551136
KEEP COPING obvious female vocal cords testosterone won’t save you from your future PLAP PLAP

>>42560232
your voice is so perfect it makes me mad and i should just be happy for you but it's so perfect it makes me like jealous and sad it's so good. i wish i sounded half as good as you did it's like ridiculous i can't even tell at all.
>holy oh my godddd
https://voca.ro/1b776nUcALa1

what frequency should i even aim to speak at, i looked it up and they all sound very low

>>42562965
sub 140 hz = masculine
above 160 hz = feminine
give or take

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https://voca.ro/1kypKvY8l2bm

had a top 3 transgender humiliation moment today. i was clocked as a tranny from 50 feet away, so thankfully it had nothing to do with my faggy voice.

>>42560232
turbo pass
>>42562784
very passy imo. kind of shakey but that's really all i can say.

>>42561342
Fake remnant of the minor pooner war early today

https://voca.ro/19IExj21W9TE
I feel like it doesn’t really match my face either:/

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>>42564800
Sorry, but we are going to torture you because you didn't reply to anyone.

>>42563731
perfect great voice mwah im sorry about the 50 feet away clocking how did that even happen...
your voice is great. i feel like you're a little bit like me but you're not as shakey, you just have the like, i don't know what to call it. the soft restrained breathy quality. like i wonder if you could scream pass. i wonder if you could yell at someone. I can't :(. But I think what you have sounds really good. you sound like a real adult woman

>>42564800
i feel like you have a pretty androgynous voice maybe slightly leaning masculine. I can't even tell if you're mtf or ftm i would believe either. i feel like your voice is too high to be typically masculine but too low to be typically feminine, so if your goal is to be one of those things i would alter it accordingly. Most people i think "pitch isn't your problem, youre thinking about pitch too much you need to worry about other stuff", but for you, i think it might be pitch. maybe. idk. im not an expert. your goal should just be however you wanna sound, if you don't know what to shoot for then you should keep an ear out for any qualities you admire in other people's voices that you wish your own had. it can feel skin walker-y but mimicry can actually be really helpful with practicing. obviously the end goal isn't and shouldn't be to sound like someone else you wanna sound like you, but there's nothing wrong with noticing aspects of others voices that you wish you had and emulating them. and it can also be helpful just for the sake of experimenting and building understanding. this is one of the ones I used early on as an example of a voice i admired. i don't sound anything like her though. and that's fine. https://youtu.be/-xbKAb4s_CQ

please rate others

>>42564959
i'm sorry for responding to them i found their voice interesting and got carried away