>>43266683
You never have to do taxes if you never have a job, try that strat out

18 YEAR OLD TRANNIES I LOVE YOU <3 <3 <3

aw man it was only broken for me and not everyone else. i thoguht we were all suffering together. fuck you guys
>>43266522
not looking
>>43266524
that was supposed to be a compliment? 哎呀

>>43266672
I'd let him suck it if he was gay and liked cock but he's just rerarded agp

>>43266672
breakfast was 90% dark chocolate and heritage flakes cereal
lunch was peanuts and granola and a fruit bowl
dinner was miscellaneous beans and corn and spinach and kale and broccoli, topped off with olive oil and a senseless menagerie of spices

>>43266700
I wish I could fuck and breed 18 year old hinekomori

>>43266704
Bronyanus, can you please tell me everything will be fine!!

>>43266672
is site kill?

>>43266717
of course everything will be fine! that's the only way anything can be, right?

>>43266581
she was always hot, how did she get hotter?

>>43266672
>What did you eat today
Instead of normal breakfast I cooked soup this morning - browned onion and jalapeno and garlic with a bit of ham, used some good chicken stock concentrate and added pinto beans, then finished with diced chicken breast and a ton of spices and simmered it
Garnished with Greek yogurt and cheddar cheese because I'm freaky
And now I'm drinking beers

>>43266716
You and me both

>>43266731
She used to look like an estrogenized Hills Have Eyes extra, be real

>>43266753
she looked like a plappable blonde semondemon

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world is a miserable place

ohh my DAYS will you coder tech trannies fix this site already? drink your monster mango meth blast and CODE for daddy<3

>>43266731
I’m sorry but that bitch is insanely ugly before and after surgery

>>43266759
cute little marie bein silly all da time

>>43266759
THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE

>>43266762
beep boop false, jealousy detected, opinion discarded

https://files.catbox moe/h8jjxb.png

>>43266764
everything is nothingburger...
>>43266765
SET TO DRAAAAAAAIN T~T

>>43266762
Yep I saw her in the city once and she looked bogged as hell from all sides

>>43266777
what are we gonna do if 4chin kill? i dunno wat to do

>>43266765
billy corgan would've been saved if they had invented estrogen in the 90s

if 4chan dies we just move back to the gc

>>43266781
idk... concerned...

I went to the movie theatre to see hail mary

>>43266697
i got health insurance last year
>>43266777
drain gang

>>43266762
BRVTAL TRVKE

>>43266793
house party nearby im bringing weird guys

>>43266731
proof? i wanna know how this mf looks like pre and post surgery cause i look kind of like them

Crowbar is the transbian that bungholed meffy, right?

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>>43266788
.. i think it’s over

Why is it so hard to post? What did you do?

>>43266759
Remember when this dude sucked on wrens penis?

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uh oh chasergen
you got the dud

>>43266759
-_-

>>43266798
i don’t have old or new pictures of her, i don’t have socials and i don’t folder people. i just have memory

>>43266804
it's funny how some tranny that gets off to blacked is behind a lot of these funny gifs

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>>43266804

>>43266711
Need some imbecile cheeks tonight

>>43266800
Crowbar is some transbian tripfag turned of whore

>>43266791
What'd you think? Saw it last weekend, I liked it a lot
A mix of thoughtful sci-fi and some intentional corniness that came together really well in my opinion

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Why this nigga mouth look so damn fuckable?

>>43266812
MANY such cases

>>43266787
My gc just sends each other racist violence videos and wrestling clips
Not the same vibe as here

>>43266786
Kurt Cobain too ong

i'm just going to not report my crypto stuff that's probably fine

>>43266802
It's back to normal on my end
Damn I missed it, this shit an addiction lowkenuinely

>>43266672
breakfast was i forgett
lunch was chicken tenders on rolls
dinner was ramen
snack was ice cream

>>43266809
who cares

>>43266829
The tism stack

>>43266801
mayb we could make our own 4chins
with blackjack and hookers...
>>43266807
it me

>>43266812
how big is it

>>43266821
poor dude was 5'9
>>43266811
i have something planned for tomorrow

>>43266809
the deflowering of sukei rosie

>>43266839
5'9 was tall in the 90s

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>>43266833
hold me..

>>43266834
huge schlong, left meffy shook, cooked, and rekt

shooting sukei between the eyes because bronya ordered it

>>43266839
>i have something planned for tomorrow
I'm excited

>>43266845
so 4 inches?

>>43266839
I didn't know that, wow kurt really had a lot of struggles in his life and ended up marrying a cis hon a lil bit

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>>43266848
lol, lmao even

>>43266854
ZE BRAPENHOGGEN DEMANDS ZE DARK BLOOD

>>43266839
im 5'9
i tower over most women and finns

>>43266859
you're 5'7

>>43266850
No i think crowbro brings the mes

Telling my therapist about Stu's prolapse

ffs
this thread would be better if sukei were to just die and rot so her bbc chud orbiters and the bronyawaffen soldiers moved on

>>43266864
get some proofs

>>43266842
starting to make sense why my literal scrub jobless dad was able to get a date from my mom
>>43266852
certain men just exude tall aura, i assumed hed was at least 6 feet tall
like its hilarious to imagine him standing next to me at roughly the same height
>>43266859
those special 5'9 moments when a really short guy walks past >>>>

>>43266839
How tall are you princess?

>>43266866
checked

>>43266866
Idek anything about sukei. What's her deal?

>>43266866
Ze melted ice cream cone demands ze execution of der suken, ve vill follow our orders

i feel so empty i jst wanna go home n bedrot

>>43266867
I don't collect pictures of dongs bro.

>>43266875
She lowk mogs braphog so there’s conflict

>>43266875
BBC only snowbunny tranny

>>43266813
It reminded me of arrival and the corniness felt like the corniness from 80s movies - present but doesn't ruin the movie

Overall pretty good, worth watching

>>43266863
i'm 5'8.5
>>43266869
seeing a man shorter than me makes me depressed

>>43266884
>chaser
>within /chasergen/
>not collecting dongs
bro you’re a fuckin faggot

>>43266875
half black tranny who doesn’t mind fucking black guys
everytime she shows up in a thread either physically or by proxy, 2 types of posters start to show up
>bbc obsessed /b/ posters
>larping bronya cucks who want sukei genuinely dead for being half black
it’s weird but it’s chasergen what can you do? it genuinely would be best if she just up and disappeared, for her and the threads sake

>>43266869
I really never thought about it before, he didn't look short in pictures. Ofc he was dwarfed onstage by Kris being so tall and lanky.

>>43266883
Babe quit yapping and post ass

I miss being an athlete

>>43266898
>she just up and disappeared
Ze agenda is quite clear

>>43266900
i cant theres a boy sleeping on my lap

>>43266885
I see. The drama in here sure is a lot to keep up with.
>>43266886
That's her choice. If she's up front about it so other men know to stay away *skull and crossbones* then whatever. It's the ones that aren't honest and upfront that are the problems ime

>>43266898
Would be better if you left desu

>>43266912
Babe stop cucking all the chasers of needy manipulatable bpd girls here

if 4chan were kill there would actually be suicides irl, maybe not double digits but some anon would

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>mongrel patrol
>where is sukei?
>open the door

>>43266875
another bnwo/blacked meme fetish tranny by the looks of it, board isn't lacking on them it's fairly boring drama

QOTT: So. So far ive eaten 2 Krispy Kreme donuts
>Stepdad keeps getting too much when 6 donuts is perfectly fine. My mom loves them but then stops eating them 2 days after so now she says they are "stale".

So all in all counting what I plan to eat soon
>2 mini corn on the cob
>2 Krispy Kreme plain donuts
>3-4 cans of diet soda
>Bottles of water
>1 Large iced coffee
>1 pack of shin ramen with a bunch of vegetables. Also a slice of cheese
>1 double cheeseburger
>2 Meatloaf Sandwiches
>1 Mediterranean Salad
>Small bag of chips.

>>43266925
That's true
I had kind of a freakout when it went down last april

>>43266926
>ve have information you are sheltering der suken
>open ze door NOW

>>43266896
i think most dicks look gross bro ngl it's not like im applying lip balm while typing hoping to get some man meat tonight. dome yourself

>sukei is half black
>but 4chan wont let her like black guys
>and want her dead for being half black
it’s like watching rach and bronya kick a dead puppy

>>43266924
i got like no contacts from this thread everyone kept saying i was too young :I

>>43266937
what’s with the melty brosef? we all wanna see dick

>>43266938
Wtf I thought she wasian

>>43266883
I saw that video you posted of your ass yesterday, it was so hot. I really had the urge to tongue it :p

I'm also black fyi

That's the beautiful thing about this gen, we all love penis here <3

>>43266940
I don't. I like the girls like marie and hinekomori that have nice asses and female bodies and post those.

>>43266941
the only thing that’s asian about her will be our kids
>t.gook chaser

>>43266948
Proof

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>>43266953
oh you’re double faggot for denying it
HAHA THIS CHASER IS SCARED TO SAY HE LIKES DICK POINT AND LAUGH

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maybe if four channel is kill I'll go to irc. that could be fun

>>43266959
Is this dawgy? Who's baiting me rn

I'll frot with her stick idc

>>43266946
:))) ty

>>43266966
u mad brah? think about some dick and calm down lil bro

>>43266933
>you do know ze punishment for sheltering der suken, correct?
>ze bronyawaffen is vast
>and our streitkräfte powerful
>any suken harbourers will be shot and hung next to suken

You can like dick you don't need to hide it
Just don't like it in a bottom way
A woman with a cute little penis is fucking hot, smack yours into it then rub it and get her off while you pound her, that's what it's all about

any tranners wanna chat on discord? i'm v weird and p nice

>>43266963
hm yea good idea
idk any cool ircs tho do u

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>>43266957

If you don't wanna mog your tranny's dick you're a bitch

>>43266976
Uhh of course sir, she’s under my floorboards. I’m sorry, please let the braprer know she held a gun to my head

>>43266975
ahahah yeah it's dawgy or someone who knows ip addresses.

>>43266977
you completely get it 10/10 no notes
would let plow

>>43266983
How do you prompt this, chatgpt is woke-cucked and won't do it

GLORY TO THE BRONYAWAFFEN
DEATH TO THE MONGREL MONKEYFUCKER SUKEI

>>43266995
not only am I not a trip, I have no idea what you’re referencing

4chanbros, we're so back

hehe i filed my taxes

see i jst wonder if femboys do have it better. like its purely a social reason ppl find them attractive, u see a lot less ppl fetishizing the dih

hm it does seem better now

>>43267004
Bronya posted a bunch of bnwo links in a cisfchasergen one time. I mean realistically these are dudes that spent way too much time online and picked up the fringe niche habits of the internet like bmwo.

>>43267014
marie maybe it isn’t over! you don’t have to hold me

>>43267009
Good job.

>>43267011
>u see a lot less ppl fetishizing the dih
Idk about that, gooners for femboys are also dick obsessed

>>43267006
Well fuck off retard. We don't all have to like the same things. If I'm not a bottom chaser that means you win because there's more cock for you on the table.

>>43266977
this is cute though
>>43267019
merhaps i dont know many

>>43266963
Discordia sometimes posts in an mtf irc lol

>>43267015
I like when she quoted the popular /gif/ "Im ready to be a single mother" webm

>>43267023
oh yeah bro’s mad

>>43267018
thanks nono

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>>43267000
Use gr*k

its been months since i liked a photo or video of myself, it might be over

>>43267017
aw lol

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>>43267015
>braphog simps bullying sukei for being black and liking black guys
>find out their leader also likes black guys
you can hear the brappenhogen war machine crumble from the sukei appreciation center

>>43267032
sigh ive been there dunno what happens jst keep ur chin up

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>>43267035
we can make it through this! believe it!

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>>43267042
everything will b awesomesauce

>>43267040
Sissy crossdresser cis men <33

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>>43266672
.gg/chasergen

>>43267015
>>43267028
bronyawaffen been real silent since this truke dropped

>>43267055
i don't know how to clear the first level

>>43267055
shit hole

>>43266672
has this picture finally vanquished the 84th trimester abortion? inshallah somebody posts mutt next

>QUESTION
Which invention made life worse instead of better?

>>43267066
Condoms

>>43267066
sentience

>>43267066
Smartphones

>>43267066
cotton gin

>>43267066
the plow

>>43267066
Wheel.

>>43267066
hormone replacement therapy

I will have sex tomorrow.
Any tips?

>sukei is 50% black so she’s only half disgusting for liking bbc
>bronya is 100% white so she’s all disgusting for liking bbc
>the bronyawaffen is 100% white so they’re all disgusting for fighting for their leaders right to take bbc
the biggest self cuck in chasergen history

>>43267088
Make sure you win.

>>43267032
Same but that's because I've been getting chubbier
It's alright though since she still thinks I'm hot but we're back into cutting season so I'm re-chadifying

>>43267088
Break a leg!

>>43267028
this one is actually true LMFAO I didn't even know it originated from here though it's a popular tiktok audio these days

Remember before roachoid came here and there wasn't a 24/7 incel race obsession here like the rest of the site
Those were the days

>>43267066
probably firearms.

>>43267088
don’t forget to pee

>>43267104
I've never gotten that on tiktok, just a bunch of Yes King audios
I looked up the actual videos and they're actually really hot, bro was slinging dick fr
RIP, king

>>43267108
Before that it was the pichu longhouse

>>43267112
that’s true from an african standpoint, they were conquered easily

>Question
What’s something you think most people pretend to enjoy?

>>43267123
my company

>>43267108
this is why sukei needs to die
it’ll get rid of the bbc incel posters

我能吞下玻璃而不傷身體

>>43267108
It seems to revolve around sukei and bronya. If they'd simply take it on the chin and leave as martyrs the thread would be better. They're, especially bronya, too narcissistic and attention driven to do that though.

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>>43267101
ive lost 20 pounds over the past year but im also tired looking and too depressed to take care of myself most days unfortunately
the light bulb went out in my bedroom 3 days ago and im typing this in the dark because i cant work up the energy to fix it
instead ive probably spent an upwards of 39 hours studying for a massive exam tomorrow over the past 3 days
the past 4 months have drained me of beauty and joy

>>43267123
multiculturalism

>>43267123
Multiculturalism

>>43267123
Silence.

>>43267114
rip???? damn fly high angel. im glad the originals are good I would be sad if they weren't

>>43267138
no fucking way, do we fuck now?

>>43267132
i haven’t even seen sukei in this thread today
she started getting mentioned because someone posted a shrimpcat gif, i think some people are just obsessed

>>43267123
Sex

>>43267135
how many trannies does it take to replace a light bulb?

>>43267122
yeah guns just kinda changed the meta for the worse. now everyone can 1 shot

>>43267146
Hmm then I guess that just leaves bronya to leave

>>43267164
pls pls pls 2 christmases

>>43267164
my point was that even if they leave, people will keep bringing them up for some reason

>>43267132
remember when pichu left and we all forgot about her and stopped posting about her?
those two are eternal now, etched in the minds of pornbrained chuds and racist cucks

the new era of trips are pretty dogshit ngl, marie is a relic of a kinder time

>>43267031
Dangerous knowledge
Generated a black version of myself and now I'm at risk of having a few drinks and committing a micro-aggression and sending it to my black friends

>>43267183
>>43267175
Can't hurt to try

>>43267145
Neh we're both guys. Let's go out and shoot guns together

>>43267117
Yeah it was pichu polycule hours in here

>>43267123
Neat alcohol

>>43267191
im not like a guy guy tho, im a tranny

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>>43267132
>if they’d leave, the thread would be better
wish granted, but veltail comes back

>>43267123
Their relationship

>Question
If you could erase one everyday social norm, what would it be?

>>43267196
Oh my bad i just assumed. Yes let's fuck shall we?

>>43267185
i'm a relic alright T~T

>>43267108
I've been here since the summer of 24 bro, I'm not new.

>>43267206
a-are you white?

>when the huzz was a guy back in high school
Hell yeah

>>43267203
pedophilia

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sorry I just got done throwing up so I'm mad. ill think of something nice to post

>>43267197
Veltail would make a great fucktoy

>>43267203
There's no reason to expect wagies to be tipping in this economy

>>43267215
That's a bit islamophobic of you

>>43267210
you’re a reminder of how much better things once were. you had a much harder /tttt/ class to compete with, you outlasted and mog now.

>>43267211
'24 is new
Kill yourself with a gun btw

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>>43267203
>If you could erase one everyday social norm, what would it be?
Not putting your shopping cart back.

>>43267215
Is it a social norm?

>>43267185
We haven't had good trips on this board since 2023

>>43267212
Yeah, you?

>>43267203
White lies.

hi

>sukei posts
>”hey cg my day was long i can’t wait to get home and play games”
>reaction
>BBC PRINCESS MONGREL STRING HER UP

>bronya posts
>”men are kinda gross”
>reaction
>JA, MEIN BROHNYÄ! VE VILL EXTERMINATE ZE SUKEN! FOR ZE FATHERLAND! FOR ZE BRONYAWAFFEN

>rach posts
>who the fuck cares about rach

>>43267245
Bonjour.

>>43267240
overwhelmingly

>>43267242
yes!! yay

>>43267253
:)

>>43267203
Using ma'am or miss.

Just use Sir(for men) or Ser(for women)

>>43267241
Golden years

>>43267261
:)

Quand je pense a toi je me touche

>>43267263
or Saar (when jeet)

>Question
What’s a hill you’re willing to die on that isn’t actually important?

>>43267227
Half the current trips came here after that faggot.
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>>43267281
Liking Lolicon/Shotacon is indeed sus and it is CSAM

Sitting out front at Costco again sniffing all the sweaty women as they walk by

What does sukei look like

>>43267283
The current trips are almost all shit

i miss bagel and snurly but that’s it

>>43267289
stu and cibinon have souls at least

>>43266672
What is this fetid beast

>>43267288
Gigantic chin

>>43267288
Hot clockable mulatto with cute puffy tranny tits

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>>43267287
You can totally do it, bro.

>>43267223
>outlasted
more like stagnated Dx
kinda true tho
when i came to this board we still had ppl like mel, degen, LB
compared to ppl like that i was gum on the sidewalk lole
but i had so much hope for how things could turn out...
now i feel old
so many others have moved on
who else used to be popular... soph still posts sometimes i guess
lapis was a big presence, never even hear abt her any more
idk prob others im forgetting
so much has changed

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>>43267281
sukei did nothing wrong
pichu was a good trip
rach didn’t ruin chasergen, chasers ruined chasergen
bronya has the personality of a microwave
rav was a gigapassoid
sarah is a necessary trip and threads are notably worse when she’s not around

>>43267281
Raceplay is hot

>>43267289
i'm nice

>>43267297
>>43267301
Why do people say she's a snowbunny and bnwo stuff?

>>43267303
no, even back then you weren’t ugly and you always had a beautiful soul. I’m just sayin, it was tough back then.

>>43267294
Stu has a nice ass but that face is brutal

i want sugar cookies

:(

>>43267302
idk why Costco lets me get such good whiffs. I'm guessing it's the air system that shoots straight down

>>43267286
I mean it's objectively not csam
But it's simulated csam and should get its consumers put on a registry

>>43267317
she has a wife’s face

>>43267271
can we make it 'je dois me toucher' so it's the same syllable count

>>43267305
>sukei did nothing wrong
i have no idea what sukei is supposed to have done
>pichu was a good trip
love pichu
>rach didn’t ruin chasergen, chasers ruined chasergen
rach plus /b/ made chasergen drastically worse
>bronya has the personality of a microwave
love bronya
>rav was a gigapassoid
no. nice though. cute too
>sarah is a necessary trip and threads are notably worse when she’s not around
strongly dislike sarah

>bronya exposed for liking bnwo
>sukei haters double-down
fuuuuuck im nooooticing

>>43267294
cibihon is an animatronic meltdown and i kind of wish someone unplugged him now and then. exhausting to be around

>>43267310
Which one are you?

>>43267309
But anon it doesnt really feel nice to be called the hard r :[

>>43267318
they are easy to make if you have ingredients

>>43267327
When did she get exposed

>>43267281
they are all important. to ME

>>43267318
I want hinekomori bussy

>>43267329
guess :D

>>43267314
i was sooo ugly lole
it horrifies me to look at my old pics
lately i have been feeling kind of guilty though
that was the version of me my mother loved the best and i killed him
idk prob not good to dwell on it
i never rly had an issue thinking abt stuff like that until recently, idk why
anyways
>you always had a beautiful soul
thx anon <3
i think i used to be kinder

>>43267338
here >>43267015

>>43267341
Haha well memed! Very funny post

>>43267325
>love bronya
>hate Sarah
Crimson Vermilion 780 nanometer wavelength flag

TRANSBIAN FUCKING SHITS. TRANSBIAN FUCKING POLYSHITS

>>43267343
Nta, barley girl.

>>43267343
polish tranny?

if bronya is the axis
sarah is the allies
get on the right side of history, chasergen

>>43267338
He's just been making things up and spamming for the last few idk months about it. Some weird obsession with making harassing sukei and blaming Bronya. It's all very odd.

>>43267305
Good summary

>>43267358
Sarah clears any day of the week

well I guess I'm able to lactate now

>>43267362
The only thing he clears is the womens bathroom

>>43267358
No wonder the bronwaffen takes after those aesthetics

>>43267360
>>43267367
treep on braphogan

sarahs "look how i ironically make an ugly face" pictures dont hide the fact that she is indeed a fuck ugly hon the way she thinks they do lol

>>43267363
That's hot babe, now you can lactate on my cock before you suck it

>>43267324
I just heavily stress the last word like "too-shuh" for a fake double syllable
Idk if this will enrage frenchoids

>>43267350
bronya is a bit of a psycho sometimes but she's nice and funny. she's better now too than last summer when she was kinda mean. sarah makes me uncomfortable almost every time she talks to me. just overfamiliar and creepy

Bronya trying to make fun of Sarah is hilarious lol. Look I'm the mirror

>WE’RE GONNA TURN THESE BRONYAWAFFEN FUCKS INTO SWISS CHEESE
>OORAH

this forced meme is so lame

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This thread is just horrible tonight

>>43267376
Sarah is like troonjak come to life

>>43267376
Trip on brapya

Ze gc was pinged relentlessly for ze BIDF

>>43267376
It's vulnerable and based. Much more real and human than anything the hog has ever posted

>>43267356
lole it took me a moment to figure this one out but yes actually. i did end up making the soup did you see... i had totally forgotten i ever did that
>>43267357
no!

>>43267378
i thinking it would probably confuse someone if you pronounced it as two syllables instead of one? but idk my frank is ass

>if i keep repeating the joke autistically it'll be funny

I miss hornygen

>>43267392
i love bronya like a brother that id never want to visit

Is groupchat a new meme or something, or just a weird obsession in this thread
I don't use Elon Musk's The Everything App so idk

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>>43267399
It's not a joke.

>>43267408
It's called having friends

Ze hornet’s nest has been kicked

this is so boribg

Tranny bitch that wants to eat my cock 24/7

>>43267397
Nah, I didn't see. How was it? Will you be making another?

the breaking of this site is is responsible for any meta discussion like we’ve all had some existential reflection on the state of this board and what it’s meant to us over the years. despite the ups and downs and how much has changed i wanna say that i hope i never lose you all. this place is my everything

>>43267403
Hornygen needs to come back so trannies can slut it up for us

>>43267416
True. Can I jerk off to you instead

>>43267421
I just work here, man.

semper fi
the bronyawaffen can’t handle the full might of the sarah marine corps, oorah

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>>43267421
oh wow

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>>43267419
too bad! here's evidence. it was good! i still haven't been cooking much gthough. really need to get on it Y_Y

why is there always someone in here always trying to separate rach from the chasers. They are one in the same. Rach is a transphobic sissy that thinks men cannot be women

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>Braaapppp, or something
>I'm so cool for making fun of sarah
Go back to the sjp dude

>>43267414
I have friends, I'm in groupchats
But suddenly it's mentioned 8 times a day out of nowhere. So like did a streamer do a meme or something mentioning it or what

>>43267396
if youre coming here for genuine human interaction you are beyond cooked. kindly reevaluate many of your decisions

i like it here i've met lots of good buddies PLUS a choidbuddy

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>Oh no, the trannies have started giving each other compliments, by the end of the year there will be another lesbian tripfag hookup

>>43267433
>that thinks men cannot be women
This is true though

>>43267433
I'm a chaser and none of those things
Old chasergen was chill and none of those things