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Do you have anything to say to him before he departs this world?
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His first book was okay and his second book was quintessential midwit core for non-fiction readers who think philosophy and psychology are one and the same. I have not read his third book and never will. I don't look forward to his death, as his fans will treat him like some intellectual messiah martyr
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>>25049432
>coward demons gather online and post comments on my videos please stop these cowards who are destroying society
-millionaire who got rich from online memes
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He's just an extremely neurotic hypochondriac who can now afford long-term private medical care stays to further his delusions. He'd be kicked out of a public hospital and referred to a psychiatrist within half a week, but the private care facilities are happy to continually check him in and run a litany of tests and hypothesize about his ostensible illness for those sweet, sweet shekels.
Remember when he said a spoonful of apple cider vinegar almost killed him and he wasn't able to sleep for a month? He said that shit with a straight face on Joe Rogan to an audience of millions. Dude's a nut with an eating disorder and severe hypochondria. He's like your.crazy cat lady aunt who's always talking about her fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue disorder and gluten sensitivity. Buddy is cooked.
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>>25049432
>Nearly had the revelation that men are kind of fucked in society moving forward
>Completely ignores obvious issues of gendered bias in society towards women, and disparaging men as entire gendered class
>Talks about how men need to bear their cross while women don't
>Meanwhile, his oh so precious daughter is a mega-slut who literally uses her cleavage on his promos (and she got her guts pumped out by Tate of all people)
Peterson could of been part of something grander in a revival of men, but pussied, and told them to simp and be white knights, since he wanted to be a white knighting faggot and got addicted to his meds and is now dying. Dude's only real claim to fame was pushing back against insane power-hungry trannies and the hyper Liberal cucks of Canada, but Canada is fucked anyways.
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>>25050158
He literally went before a congressional hearing. One of the few things he was right about.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfgf2GRk3Q
He's a dipshit retard in hindsight, but Bill C-16 and forced language is far more retarded.
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>>25052010
He was in the ICU for nearly a month due to severe pneumonia and sepsis.
Also, here's his dumb whore daughter literally goon-baiting people to join his Peterson Academy.
>https://x.com/MikhailaFuller/status/1822375793651237116
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>>25052017
Yeah, and that's pretty much most of far-leftist politics and the cucked state of Canada. Political dog and pony shows as the place gets run over by Indians and pretends to be the holier-than-thou version of the US.
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>>25052019
Have another, btw, friendly reminder, men need to carry their own crosses, unless you're a woman.
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>>25052022
The right does it just as much as the left and the left would not be able to do it without the right. The side that publicly instigates such things is not always the side pulling the strings in such things and even if they are it does not mean the other side will not exploit the opportunity to better effect. Sometimes politicians want to be the underdog in a given situation, especially in any situation were their constituents play the victim. Politics is the tool of governance, the tools of controlling and keeping the retards in check.
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>>25052086
The difference is the sheer amount of shit-testing, and purity-purging and purtiy-spiraling on the left is nuts. As someone who was on the left, you had to take it all, hook-line-and-sinker politics wise to the extreme, or if you tried to deviate from someone's more extreme views than you, they would attack you, especially socially/character assassination. I've lost most friends on the left who I disagreed with even on little things or basic things, but none on the right if I disagree with them politically.
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>>25052019
wasn't in a hospital, was in a private care facility, and there's no proof he had sepsis or pneumonia, as he'd likely have actually spent time in a real hospital. this is all fake and gay attention whoring from this neurotic freak family
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>>25052017
To be fair, modern liberalism and everything left of it tends to turn politics into a dog and pony show where competing actors and groups hound after recognition and preferred treatment in the sectarian resource extraction scheme.
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>>25052086
>would not be able to do it without the right.
You people are just fucking delusional. Your entire politics revolve around gratifying your desires. You are completely subject to our current social formation of mass democracy and its endless arena of recognition amongst increasingly smaller and stranger identity groups and all their overlaps. This in turns feeds the rise of disgruntled white nationalists who are forced to see this and the necessary disparaging of their own identity everywhere they go. It's all sordid and quite ridiculous and I can only hope that Surtr comes to blast this humiliating world asunder.
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>>25052095
>the difference is that they are the same
>>25052133
>You people
What people would those be? What are my politics? I think I hit a nerve.
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>>25052019
Pete was too prudish you can see his shadow in these pictures. Jew apologist bought and paid for.
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>>25049432
Imagine after his death he becomes some incel Muhammad type figure and a religion is built out of cleaning your room and washing your penis, and we get two different factions (incel sunni vs incel shia) that each claim to have the true canonical interpretations of his teachings and this battle defines american culture for centuries to come
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>>25050055
Go watch he Jubilee performance, he has always been a vapid word salad artist. Throw in his Zionist sympathizing (full on running cover for a genocide) and you have a shill con artists. Sad.
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>>25049432
You got on book tube guys channel because of my psychotic breakdown, and I felt bad for him and not you, because you can deal with the bullshit, or at least I thought. Then I saw you both hurting over time and I felt stupid for having drawn in the psychotic and narcissistic enablers of a corrupt system looking to bring us back to centrism safely. I don't think it matters that when I broke down no one came to save me from myself, though. My attention was used to manifest new horrors and new movements towards others ends. And we were all left broken and used and sad old men (but at least you rich). I hope the effect was worthwhile to have become fully and truly an American.
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>>25049432
"The lower classes so drugs because they’re stupid and slaves to their urges. I do drugs because my great intellect is plagued by the heaviness of existence."
Conservative are just Maurry Povich freaks in suits
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>>25057995
Kinda related, but in the early 2000s with hack-tivism, and early online culture before normies took over, alternative left and right kinda set aside a lot of their bullshit and started going after power and corruption.
Left and right joined up for the Wallstreet protests, and they put the kabash down on that hard. Then they introduced lefties to DEI and they've been buck broken and a self-cannibalizing snake ever since.
Then alt-right came around as an alternative to the mainstream right, since a lot of young rightoids were unhappy with old, non-energized boomers who never did anything, and then it got gas-lit and framed as being a neo-nazis pipeline, even to this day. Much like how liberals/leftists got pipelined and their movement corrupted into DEI garbage that's just lining professional activists pockets.
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>>25059421
Not really, I was around during that time, and I remember. It's just convient to memory-hole it all. I was here for the rise, peak and fall (meme magic event) of 4chan. Here for the Shia Lebouff flag event, etc. Most normies and retards aren't aware of the underground cultural stuff that existed here, or online, or it's just memory holed since so much other shit overshadowed it. Covid buck-broke normie society.
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>>25057962
Peterson was pretty left leaning at the time, and he was more traditional liberal, he was clashing with the rising extreme versions of modern nu-age-sexuality neo-communist lefties. Problem is, the Overton Window shifted so hard left that it put Peterson in the right-wing camp. Even then, Peterson still carries water for feminists and will refuse to critique them on any deeper level than surface level, but he will make sure to rip a meta-physical philosophical new asshole for men and tell them in therapy-speechcraft to "be better" (carry your cross). Meanwhile women have nothing to work on or improve. While his daughter goon-posts her tits for his Peterson Academy, and she's the CEO for his said Academy.
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>>25052111
>wasn't in a hospital, was in a private care facility
> no proof he had sepsis or pneumonia
Yeah I'm starting to think this is like those long covid people. Psychosomatic shit, refuse real world care because they'd call his shit out and call the psych consult which he can't have, he needs his mystery illnesses that you cure by magic diets. Or it's just a cover for another bout of rehab problems since the guy was too weak to quit benzos without being in a fucking coma.
The real comedy is of course that he's trained to treat lunatics like himself, physician heal thyself, etc.
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>>25059891
>the guy was too weak to quit benzos without being in a fucking coma
Not what happened, retard. He sustained a neurological injury from taking a doctor prescribed medication, as directed, and tapered off when he realized what was causing the symptoms he was experiencing. The problem is that cessation aggravated the injury and the whole thing was compounded by extreme withdrawal--going back on the medication didn't help. The coma wasn't for withdrawal symptoms but to basically press pause on the neurological damage he sustained while doctors treated him for such. The damage wrecked the interplay between his nervous and immune systems, a symptom of which is severe allergic reactions to stimuli (e.g. foodstuffs, molds, pollen, etc) that used to be benign.
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>>25060326
You're making shit up about a public figure because you feel personally attacked when he points out the shortcomings of shitty people. The reality is he suffered a neurological injury from a doctor prescribed medication and you'd rather misconstrue that misfortune than inventory the beliefs you hold because, deep down, you know you suck and it's your fault you suck.
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>>25049907
He wasn't always a drug addict with impaired cognitive faculties and zero emotional regulation. He used to be a smart, highly educated person who really cared about helping people.
This is sad. Very sad, only.
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>>25060392
>a drug addict
He was never a drug addict. He took a doctor prescribed medication and had an adverse reaction that wasn't even on the warning label until over a year after he went public with his symptoms.
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>>25061302
Invalid because he wasn't a drug addict. That's a label shitty people attach to him to attack his character because they have nothing of value to say and feel comfortable demonstrating their stupidity.
That's the best thing about Peterson. He makes terrible people reveal themselves as terrible.
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>>25062735
The adverse reaction was addiction and his weak and neurotic fits of desperation when he tries to cut back and quit. That a psychologist could pretend to be ignorant and naive about on the those most widely prescribed, studied and talked about benzo, with one of the most widespread recreational use is preposterous. The nigga was wiggin' out, got one of his psychiatrist buddies to write him a script, he abused it and was too weak to taper off and go through WDs like a normal person, and ended up flying to another country to willingly be put into a fuckin' coma so he didn't have to face up to the consequences of his actions. All the while his wife is getting treatment for an actual deadly disease. This hypocritical piece of shit should be deported back to Canada and barred from ever leaving again. Anyone who takes advice from this guy after witnessing his downfall should be ashamed of themselves.
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>>25063851
Jordan Peterson took a doctor prescribed medication. There is no evidence he was abusing it or taking it in a higher dosage than directed by his physician. He experienced a severe side effect from said medication culminating in his seeking treatment in 2018. This side effect and symptoms related to it were not listed on the medication until 2019--after Peterson had gone public about his symptoms.
In a nutshell, Jordan Peterson sustained a neurological injury from doctor prescribed medication. This affected his immune system and his body began reacting to random foods he normally had no problem consuming (people who experience the same side effect will have histamine responses to food/drink they were not allergic to in the past--their body has seemingly random immunological responses that vary in severity and degree). On top of this there are also adverse effects on the regulation of the parasympathetic nervous system. As far as the later is concerned psychological symptoms arise (e.g. a sense of dread/terror, lack of impulse control, sleep regulation, appetite regulation, etc).
When Peterson stopped taking his medication due to the above he experienced severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not due to an "addiction" but rather a physical dependency that commonly arises from wide range of medications. Akathisia is one of the worst of such symptoms as it creates an insatiable sense of restlessness. This is not simple anxiety although anxiety may arise due to akathisia which is itself a motor disorder. The reason this symptom is labelled "subjective" is because it is qualitative and patient reported. The pain one has during a migraine or a cluster headache is also "subjective"--this doesn't mean the pain doesn't exist.
Peterson sought treatment in Canada but was given a poor diagnosis and thereby sought treatment at a specialized facility that developed an experimental treatment regimen specific to the symptoms he was experiencing. He was put into a comatose state so as to negate extreme withdrawal symptoms and to avoid further neurological damage. The treatment was a success and in the years since he has continued with him life and found success in multiple endeavors.
People who want to attack Peterson try to label him as a drug addict. In so doing, they wish to bring in the connotations associated with addiction as a way to defame him. In realty, Peterson had a physical dependency on medication, as many people do, AND had a server side effect, unknown at the time, that compounded the dangers of simply tapering off the drug. No loaded language is needed to describe what actually happened; an appeal to the facts at hand alongside information relating to such experiences themselves suffice.
Here's a medical doctor who specializes in the treatment of medication withdrawal explaining exactly what Peterson went through:
https://youtu.be/C_32icvWpIg
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>>25062814
>The adverse reaction was addiction
Lie. It was damage to his nervous system.
>That a psychologist could pretend to be ignorant
The side effect he experienced wasn't on on the label until over a year after he experienced it.
>widely prescribed, studied and talked about benzo
The majority of studies came out due to it being over prescribed and the specific side effect Peterson experienced was largely unknown.
>was too weak to taper off
He did tapper off but cessation of the drug caused further neurological injury. Going back on the drug was ineffective to prevent this.
>ended up flying to another country to willingly be put into a fuckin' coma
He went to a clinic that had specifically developed a treatment regimen for what he was experiencing. The coma was to hit pause on the damage to his nervous system.
>wife is getting treatment for an actual deadly disease
Correct.
All his detractors can do is attack his character based on mischaracterizations and outright falsehoods.
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>>25064497
Everyone knows you shouldn't take daily benzos to flee from anxiety. Peterson did it anyway and he became addicted. Then he was put in a coma to flee from withdrawal symptoms. No one buys he had some unfortunate freak side effect, just like no one believes that he was the only person in the history of the world to have a month straight of insomnia from drinking a glass of apple cider, just like no sane person undergoes a "lion" diet. Peterson is a drug addict making up endless excuses like all addicts do.
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>>25064505
> you shouldn't take daily benzos
Peterson took a common and widely prescribed medication.
>Peterson did it anyway and he became addicted
Addiction and physical dependency are two seperate things. The former involves engaging in behavior despite the ramifications of such while the latter is quite normal when it comes to a variety of medications. When Peterson linked symptoms he was experiencing to his medication he stopped taking it (an addict would not have done this).
>he was put in a coma to flee from withdrawal
No. He was put in a coma as a means to prevent further neurological damage related to cessation of medication. Withdrawal was an aggravating factor but not the main reason his treatment involved a medically induced coma.
>No one buys he had some unfortunate freak side effect
People who don't matter certainly don't. Who cares what a bunch of chuds and trannies who feel personally attacked when someone says "clean your room" believe? Lol.
>a glass of apple cider
A symptom of the side effect Peterson experienced is are histamine responses to previously benign stimuli.
>Peterson is a drug addict
He's demonstrably not and the reason people like you want to attach such a label is for the sake of character assassination. You feel personally attacked, he shakes your beliefs, and you lash out.
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>>25064540
>Peterson took a common and widely prescribed medication.
You shouldn't take daily benzos; a psychologist who makes a living preaching responsibility should deal with anxiety without depending on drugs.
>Addiction and physical dependency are two seperate things. The former involves engaging in behavior despite the ramifications of such while the latter is quite normal when it comes to a variety of medications.
He engaged in the drugs despite developing a dependency, which is unhealthy. He fits your own definition.
>When Peterson linked symptoms he was experiencing to his medication he stopped taking it (an addict would not have done this).
Source?
>He was put in a coma as a means to prevent further neurological damage related to cessation of medication.
So you're now claiming both taking the drugs and not taking the drugs caused neurological damage?
>People who don't matter certainly don't. Who cares what a bunch of chuds and trannies who feel personally attacked when someone says "clean your room" believe Lol.
Peterson is a spiritual tranny unwilling to take responsibility for his mental illness and you are a tranny enabler going along with whatever falsehoods he spins because it makes you both feel good.
>A symptom of the side effect Peterson experienced is are histamine responses to previously benign stimuli.
So you also believe he didn't sleep for 25 days because of a glass of cider? Aka you've abandoned any critical thinking or even common sense and have begun buying into physical impossibilities??
>He's demonstrably not
He literally is. You yourself said he developed a physical dependency, you admitted he needed to be put in a coma in part to manage withdrawal, and you admit he was taking daily benzos to deal with anxiety, like a drug addict.
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>>25064496
I can attack him for being a lukewarm chicken who chases dollars to an embarrassing degree. Who beyond the neo jungian/ evopsych stuff has nothing really to say because he isn't brave enough to be the culture warrior his fans wanted him to be so most left him and only the most milquetoast dave rubin (his best friend) types stuck around to hear him deliver vague but dire warnings about the dangers of polarization inbetween getting covid shots and encouraging surrender to the radical left.
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>>25064567
>You shouldn't take daily benzos
I agree but the fact is the medication was commonly prescribed that way and Peterson fit the profile.
>He engaged in the drugs despite developing a dependency
No. He stopped taking a medication as soon as he thought symptoms he was experiencing could be related to such. That's the opposite of addictive behavior wherein you continue to seek out drugs despite the negative toll they're taking on your life. Again, physical dependency is a common side effect of many medications and it isn't the same thing as the behavioural patterns that are entailed by the label of addiction.
>Source?
Peterson went public with symptoms that were largely unknown even in the medical community before they were added to a warning label. Peterson sought out treatment that had nothing to do with addiction but rather a specific regimen developed to treat the neurological injury he sustained. Do you have a source that he abused drugs? Nope.
>Peterson is a spiritual tranny unwilling to take responsibility for his mental illness and you are a tranny enabler going along with whatever falsehoods he spins because it makes you both feel good.
You're a loser who feels personally attacked by someone saying "clean your room", lol.
>So you're now claiming both taking the drugs and not taking the drugs caused neurological damage?
Yes, that's exactly what happened. When Peterson tapered off the medication the symptoms of his neurological injury became more pronounced and going back on the medication, aside from being a bad option for obvious reasons, failed to alleviate symptoms. This is because it wasn't simple withdrawal like you experience when you stop smoking but rather a serious injury that existed on its own but was further aggravated by withdrawal as well.
>So you also believe he didn't sleep for 25 days because of a glass of cider?
No. He had an extreme response to something that contains an ingredient known for provoking histamine responses. This on top of the overall experience of his injury, compounded by symptoms such as akathisia, is what Peterson was reporting.
> You yourself said he developed a physical dependency, you admitted he needed to be put in a coma in part to manage withdrawal
Physical dependency isn't the same thing as addiction and I've already described why this is so. I also told you why the medically induced coma was necessary and wasn't simply an easy way out of dealing with withdrawal.
You simply don't know what you're talking about, anon. It's quite obvious to anyone who isn't motivated to parrot easily disproven nonsense all because a media figure made you realize you're the reason you're a loser.
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>>25064604
>I agree
Good. Now will you admit a psychologist that preaches personal responsibility shouldn't take them daily to deal with anxiety or will you breeze past that part again? And will you admit daily usage of a drug that takes away anxiety constitutes a psychological dependency on that drug?
>No, I don't have a source because I'm making shit up
Got it
>Do you have a source that he abused drugs?
Yes. He was both physically and psychologically dependent on them and had to be put in a coma to manage withdrawal.
>You're a loser who feels personally attacked by someone saying "clean your room", lol.
You keep saying stuff like this and it's obvious projection
>Yes, that's exactly what happened. When Peterson tapered off the medication the symptoms of his neurological injury became more pronounced and going back on the medication, aside from being a bad option for obvious reasons, failed to alleviate symptoms. This is because it wasn't simple withdrawal like you experience when you stop smoking but rather a serious injury that existed on its own but was further aggravated by withdrawal as well.
So you claim the drugs caused neurological injury, so he had to stop them, but then he had to start them again because stopping them made them even worse, after claiming that he stopped the drugs once he linked his symptoms to them as "proof" he wasn't addicted and could stop when he wants. And you failed to provide a source for his so called quitting them because you're simply making shit up and peddling obvious contradictory information and medical impossibilities.
>No. He had an extreme response to something that contains an ingredient known for provoking histamine responses. This on top of the overall experience of his injury, compounded by symptoms such as akathisia, is what Peterson was reporting.
Do you beleieve he didn't sleep for 25 straight days like he claimed, or not? Answer the question.
I really don't know what you get out of your elaborate enabling but it's ridiculously pathetic
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>>25064636
>a psychologist that preaches personal responsibility shouldn't take them daily
He fit the profile and took the medication as commonly prescribed.
>He was both physically and psychologically dependent
He was physically dependant on a doctor prescribed medication. You have no evidence that he was "pathologically dependant" on it and his behavior indicates the opposite.
>You keep saying stuff like this and it's obvious projection
You're the one who had a meltie about "trannie enablers" when it's obvious Peterson was the opposite. That's projection, anon.
>So you claim the drugs caused neurological injury
It's a fact as per the evidence I've laid out.
>And you failed to provide a source
Are we seriously going down that route now? I provided you with several pieces of evidence that are verifiable via the historical record and you can't seem to acknowledge let alone refute them. Do you have any actual evidence Peterson was abusing drugs? No. You're desperate and it shows.
>Do you beleieve he didn't sleep for 25 straight days
I believe you're latching on to hyperbole because you can't respond.
Crying for sources instead of providing a counterargument and trying to pose disingenuous gotcha questions instead of acknowledging a response. You lost, anon.
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>>25064649
>Not even attempting to respond to what I actually said anymore
You literally asked for a "yes/no" answer when you were given one in the post to which you responded, retard.
>I accept your concession
My concession that you lost as evidenced by 1) crying for sources instead of providing counter argument to the verifiable scenario with which you were provided and, 2) demanding a yes/no response to a gotcha question (when you'd already been given a direct response, "no", and couldn't respond to the new context).
You lost, fag. I hope it's fun impotently seething about your betters because it's obvious there's not much else going on in your life, lol.
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>t.
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>>25064605
Oh bite me. I expect a bare minimum from someone if I'm going to listen to them and Peterson doesn't deliver. So what does he offer? Literally just self help? There's dozens of others. His self help is no better than theirs, because it's handicapped by his general fear of stepping over the line. If he fully embraced reality and took the red pill his self help might actually be the cure to modernity it is supposed to be. But he won't touch the third rail, so it isn't.
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>>25064684
>Oh bite me
No thanks.
>what does he offer?
He spent decades as a successful research scientist, academic, university professor, and was in the trenches directly helping people from all across the socio-economic strata via his clinical practice.
>his self help
Resonated with the public, reached a mass audience, and according to the testimony of many had a positive effect on their lives. All the people who attack him are pretty shitty and should probably direct that energy toward personal betterment but, hey, shitty people are going to be shitty. Some people are beyond help.
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>>25064702
>He spent decades as a successful research scientist, academic, university professor, and was in the trenches directly helping people from all across the socio-economic strata via his clinical practice.
Big fucking shit. There are a million assholes with better credentials.
I asked what he offers.
So what? You are saying his self help is what he offers that makes him so good?
Do you agree that his culture/ politics/ whatever is weaksauce and terribly constrained?
>Resonated with the public, reached a mass audience, and according to the testimony of many had a positive effect on their lives. All the people who attack him are pretty shitty and should probably direct that energy toward personal betterment but, hey, shitty people are going to be shitty. Some people are beyond help.
Boy that's some passive aggressive hostility creeping in there.
Anyways. I don't need his self help. And as far as you're saying here it sounds like that's all he offers.
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>>25064855
He thinks anyone who doesn't admire Peterson is a tranny or leftist. He's been spamming the same "Peterson is not a drug addict, he's had an adverse effect" copypasta for years. Buddy is cooked as badly as Peterson himself. Thinks his hero is beyond reproach.
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>>25064504
Technically the entire medical field is one giant pharma and insurance scam. There's a reason "sick people pay more, so don't find a cure" is a reoccurring motto that's repeated. Why cure cancer when you can charge hundreds of thousands of dollars and charge them a medical-hotel fee daily, and then to inject radioactive material in someone's veins in hopes of bringing your entire body to a near-death reset by killing almost everything off, and then it not even working. I'm not convinced cancer or AIDs or STDs or any other common sickness doesn't have a cure behind closed doors yet. We've got AI, nuclear bombs, and soon robots. I think it's all bullshit.
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>>25065070
I just don't get using "chud" and "tranny" right next to each other like that
anyways to his credit there are a lot of absolutely insane lefties in here full of vindictiveness against him for daring to be a heretic like >>25065097
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>>25049432
>video posted 3 years ago
are you for fucking real right now? jordan peterson flip flops so much that he might as well be a totally different person than who he was 3 years ago
he really used to be a meme though, jow he's just sad
https://youtu.be/-BDgQMGs7Mc
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>>25065552
There's no sense to it. The person you're quoting is a fanatical sycophant who thinks anyone who doesn't lick Peterson's ass is one of the groups he rails against. Trannies and the bedeviled egg chuds being two of the most prominent of his targets. The guy isn't rational, he let's a psychotic Canadian drug addict do all of this thinking for him.