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Thoughts on the online trend of young men reading classic works of literature and posting about it?
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>>25061586
I don't have this kind of shit on my radar, but as long as it's not just performative or some kind of lifestyle/stationary porn then I'm for it, why not?
Whenever I finish a book and try looking up reviews on somewhere like youtube or goodreads, it's always just a summary in the reviewers words and then one sentence saying "I liked it". If they're moving away from that format than that's for the better, because I genuinely just don't know who reviews like that are for besides the reviewer just stroking themselves
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>>25061586
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.
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Have you ever intellectually mogged one of your teachers
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>>25061683
>Have you ever intellectually mogged one of your teachers
No. That's cruel, that's like kicking cripples. I mogged Level D and Es. If you don't know what Ds and Es are then you don't know what an Asspro or a "Professor" actually is.
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Shouldn't teachers be happy if kids got into classic literature?
If that's true, I'm happy they do. Reading is a healthy hobby to have and I'm glad I got into it as a teen. Sire, when I was a teenager, Iwas reading mostly fantasy stuff. But, you know, reading Harry Potter got me into reading Discword and reading Discworld got me into reading Douglas Adams and reading Douglas Adams got me into reading Robert Anton Wilson, which got me into reading Pynchon which got me into reading Joyce...
Diving in at the deep end as a kid is kind of weird but then again, I read Naked Lunch when I was fourteen and it never did me any harm.
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>>25061906
>Shouldn't teachers be happy if kids got into classic literature?
Shouldn’t we all know the formula by now? They’re never happy. It’s always “dark forces are luring young men to do X”. They’ll point to some 4chumps reading list with Wellbeck, Camp of the Saints and Uncle Ted and suddenly it’s “the alt right coopting literature to teach men hate”. How? Don’t be daft they never explain, no data, analysis, not even a justification of why it’s a “trend” at all. Quote some retard schoolteacher who “heard it discussed in class”, quote some social media bot comments and hey presto IMPORTANT SOCIAL NEWS ARTICLE BE VERY AFRAID!
I used to read all the major papers at the library btw, I don’t “hate journalism” or whatever buzzword they want to defend themselves with now. It’s all just formulaic garbage now, the occasional good work needs to be mined out beneath.
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How is it that every single male zoomer and alphoid in existence has this exact same haircut? Every generation has had its hairstyles, sure but I don't think I've ever seen entire generations adhere this slavishly before. They literally ALL have the broccolihead or some variation of it. It's fucking WILD.
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>>25062267
We had this when I was in high school
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>>25061683
I remember getting a bad grade on my baccalaureate in literature because the last subject (a 3rd of the total grade) was literary analysis, for some reason the person grading it took great offense at me correctly identifying the original novel as socialist realism and analysing it from that perspective.
I had it recorrected and it went from 0 to 2.98/3
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>>25062490
Same. And the worst part is that our Latin teacher had to fill in for our History teacher one time and it was one of the most interesting 45 minutes of history I'd ever listened to.
Some people are just shit at the job
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>>25061586
This guy works at VDARE, a journal named for a white woman who voluntarily submitted to Amerindian cock. No wonder he's a xitter power user addicted to posting rightoid fantasies for 3 dollars/day engagement payouts.
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>>25061586
Is this gonna be like that Sydney Sweetie's jeans campaign that caused "outrage" online but the only time you ever saw that outrage was when conservative figures were saying that liberals were outraged over some jeans?
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>>25061586
I remember being a young chudlet with feminist libtard teachers trying to push pozzed books on me at school and all I wanted to do was get the fuck away from that gay shit and read Sophocles and Euripides at home.
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>>25061586
Reading and understanding are two very different things. On the one hand it's great that young men are reading these books, but more often than not you see "fandoms" popping up around these books that oversimplify their content and message, or risk misinterpreting it entirely. For example Blood Meridian is literally just gore fetish to most people who talk about the book online, and rarely do they peel back the layers exposing the counter-Enlightenment arguments against "All Men Created Equal" and the comical pitfalls of hyperrational Enlightenment thinking when applied to the savage and highly irrational nature of man when laws and law enforcement are absent, or even worse, when they're actively cooperating with man's evil nature. It's good to read, but it's great to think, and I worry that a lot of these young men aren't at a stage where they're thinking as deeply as they should be about what they may be reading because books don't usually hold their hand when it comes to interpretation. It just comes across as getting an interesting, wild or entertaining story without any deeper thought crossing their minds as they read.
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>>25062043
>Performative
Which youtuber used this word in a video essay so that midwits keep spamming it in threads now?
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>>25063587
'Performative' is a staple of low value female vocabulary, along with words like 'ick,' 'problematic,' 'male gaze,' and 'toxic masculinity.' Performative males are men whom women feel are pretending to be something for female attention. At best, it's projection, and at worst it's low IQ femoids shaming anyone who isnt glued to a smartphone all hours of the day.
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>>25063398
admitting that you find the brothers K "complicated" (your words, not said in the post) and naming the wrong social media platform while calling me stupid is just rich. You're way too excited to xd own a rando online that you couldn't take half a second while solving a captcha to think about if what you typed made sense. You gotta relax man.
If it /is/ performative then the trend is gay, if it's actually just young kids being excited about books then I'm for it. I don't know how children use social media because I'm not a child
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>>25063749
they got played. the outraged conservatives weren't real either
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>>25063587
aren't we all performing?