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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:39:35 No.25062885 >start with the Greeks
Any reason why one should start with the Greeks when it comes to reading literature?
What are the actual reasons?

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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:40:43 No.25062890 Did you install Gentoo, too? Fuckin' retard. Go outside once in a while.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:45:41 No.25062895 >>25062885
>Any reason
Every reason.
>Actual reasons?
Yes.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:46:11 No.25062897 >>25062885
greek literature is the root of western literary tradition. the idea is most of the western canon can’t be properly understood except in the light of greek lit.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:47:40 No.25062902 so you can understand the references in later works (the lowest form of figurative language)
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)18:51:33 No.25062907 >>25062885
Because everything since is a pale imitation. You're not supposed to move on from them either
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)19:11:55 No.25062947 >>25062907
What Greek work is Moby-Dick a pale imitation of?
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)19:14:39 No.25062951 >>25062947
the odyssey
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)19:18:49 No.25062958 >>25062885
>What are the actual reasons?
None. Anyone who says start with the Greeks don't actually read and lie to themselves that they're intelligent.
Also, anyone that says "everything is a inferior copy" automatically proves that they don't read at all.
Just read what you want and ignore the pseuds and posers here. In fact, literature improved AFTERwards.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)20:55:59 No.25063204 >>25062885
>What are the actual reasons for starting with the Greeks?
For literature in a narrow sense, Homer, Aeschylus, etc.? I don't know, but for anything else, the reason is reading Euclid's Elements of Geometry and understanding science and mathematics as a literary (in the broad sense) genre and part of continuum that includes philosophy and art
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)21:15:28 No.25063236 Homer and the tragedians are the foundation of literature. Philosophy also informs literature if that's what it trying to avoid reading. At least read Homer and the tragedians. You'll be more interested in philosophy the more you read I think and will come back to them if you skip ahead
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)21:16:29 No.25063239 >>25062958
Useless perception post. No substance. Disregard, OP.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)21:34:18 No.25063279 >>25062947
Eurcidophocles' Phyvagenia and The Hydra.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)21:36:14 No.25063284 >>25063236
Honestly, I should also add The Bible to this, if we're talking foundations to literature, and no, I don't believe in God. Purely literary The Bible is arguably the most important book to read.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)22:45:18 No.25063433 >>25062885
Personally I think unless you want to see literature as a whole reduced to the same story being told over and over again in different permutations, you can go ahead and skip the Greeks. Once you read the Greeks and Shakespeare you'll start doing the literary equivalent of "Is that a JoJo reference?" for every book you read.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)22:54:57 No.25063456 Here's something very understated about reading ancient Greek literature. They are just good stories too.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)23:12:05 No.25063483 >>25062947
I think Aristophanes wrote a few things about Dick...
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)23:32:34 No.25063513 >>25063284
The Greeks explore the human soul and provided broad plot and character-driven frameworks though while biblical references in later lit are usually just names or numerology or some shit.
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Anonymous
02/02/26(Mon)23:38:27 No.25063519 >>25062885
Philosophy is one thing, but it's not necessary to start with the Greeks as far as storytelling goes. They're writings are mostly mythic and that style isn't relevant for modern readers. You can read the same story retold 1000 times over with modern sensibilities considered.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)02:15:17 No.25063718 >>25062885
In France we give French and Greek literature to high schoolers, I was forced to read and analyse the Odyssey even tho I'm a fucking math major.. but I remember it was my favourite books at the time. It's a cool epic story with a very basic structure. Anons here will parrot "start with the Greeks" all day long but if you read it you'll see it's nothing more than a simple, well structured story, you absolutely don't need to read the odyssey to understand the The Brothers Karamazov. For philosophy (another fucking class I was forced to take even tho I was majoring maths), it's a different beast, just like mathematics you need the basic concepts to understand what follows, and since they all add a layer of "reflexion" on top of each other and often criticize each other, you need to start by the basics yes.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)03:01:20 No.25063782 >>25063718
Modern mathematics is a project that started with Socrates more than Pythagoras
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)03:06:47 No.25063788 >>25062885
Western literature begins with them, they've been the paragon for the majority of Western literature after them, and they're the peak of literature.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)03:12:26 No.25063797 >>25063718
>it's nothing more than a simple, well structured story
That's a really stupid thing to say anon. It's some of the most sublime and perfect poetry ever written and you absolutely need to read it in Greek to have a proper gauge for understanding Western poetry. But even the story and characters are portrayed with such a universal human significance that almost no later 'simple, well structured story' can compete with it. When people say 'start with the Greeks', they mean properly study the Greeks, not just read it for light entertainment.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)06:27:11 No.25064018 Only actual reason is because christcuck philosophy of middle ages and modern period knew nothing earlier than Greek thought.
As such it is only the start because of that.
So if you aren't a christcuck you have no reason to start with Greeks.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)08:23:04 No.25064142 >>25062885
thicc
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)10:35:21 No.25064301 >>25064018
What a retarded thing to say.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)11:58:03 No.25064376 I'll level with you guys, I don't really like the Greek tragedies, and as a whole I've soured on the Greeks because of them.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)14:34:53 No.25064521 >>25062885
>start with the Greeks
But where specifically?
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)14:40:01 No.25064525 >>25064521
homer
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)14:40:30 No.25064527 >Lust-provoking image
>Irrelevant, time-wasting question
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:04:40 No.25064559 >>25062885
>start with the Greeks
This is for philosophy, man '-')
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:08:00 No.25064564 >>25064525
But what next?
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:11:34 No.25064570 >>25064564
Aeschylus, Sophocles, and then Euripides.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:12:13 No.25064571 >>25064564
hesiod
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:12:35 No.25064572 >>25064559
No it's not. Literature as well with Homer and the tragedians. Also philosophy informs literature.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:18:18 No.25064576 Because the greeks are the peak of humanity. Even today, every other race is inferior.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:25:19 No.25064592 >>25064572
>Also philosophy informs literature.
Ancient egyptians inform at greeks. Start with the niggas egyptians better
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)15:26:38 No.25064595 >>25064576
>Because the greeks are the peak of humanity. Even today, every other race is inferior.
Those are chinese, man
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)17:51:58 No.25064788 >>25064595
Ah yes, the bacteria people.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)17:52:59 No.25064790 >>25064592
You want this to be true so bad lol
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)18:01:32 No.25064798 >>25062885
*They* don't want you reading the classics because the classics obliterate the narrative.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)20:23:32 No.25065087 >>25062885
All of western thought is influenced by the Greeks. You just don't realize it.
Even the OT/NT are influenced by it.
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)21:02:48 No.25065201 >>25064790
However, it is
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)21:04:25 No.25065208 >>25064788
Chinese are superior
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)21:09:09 No.25065225 >>25065087
>the Greeks
And greeks by the ancient egyptians. Start with them
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)21:10:15 No.25065228 >>25065087
>Even the OT/NT are influenced by it.
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Anonymous
02/03/26(Tue)21:21:43 No.25065271 >>25065225
No they weren't.
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