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How come Anglos are so bad at writing impactful literature despite their huge population? (350 millions just in the US). Is it a culture thing?
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Nobel prize holds quality second, idealistic world peace/betterment is the primary metric. Anglo's (at least US and UK) largely keep their idealism stupid and young or angry and old, which is not particularly conducive to creating Nobel laureates in literature.
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Until the death of Milton I would say English literature outclassed everyone's except Italian. You're just measuring from the 20th Century when English output has been pretty sad apart from Joyce and Nabokov, both of whom were at heart not English peoples and both highly influenced by French literature
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>>25064218
Just as deserved as Obama's peace prize or Venezuela mama's peace prize.
To any historically savvy person with high IQ, it's obvious that Sweden would prioritize Poland due to bellicose grievances about Russia that resulted from the Northern War.
Practically no on reads Polish literature, apart from Conrad, who's part of the English canon, anyway. Everyone reads and knows Russian literature.
And it's not only Russian literature. Petrik Dzyckdzopa, a literal who from Pozzedgrad, received a piece of metal from a bunch of Swedish gay men because he wrote about how hard it is to be a closeted man in Suwalki; while James Joyce, widely read, widely translated, widely influential, hitting deep universal themes, received none.
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WOOO LET'S GO
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>Until the death of Milton I would say English literature outclassed everyone's except Italian
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>>25064626
>michaelsugrue-comeonnow.jpg
Saved, now have one on the house.
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>>25064626
I miss him bros...
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>>25064104
Yes, and?
Your surprise when some anglo prize goes to anglos is as great surely? If anything the critique for the Nobel is that they’re too concerned with “diversity” in the modern age. Women, minorities, bumfuckistan languages.
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I can't speak for the UK, but USA literary culture is suffocatingly insular/parochial. American writers read mostly other American writers who've published in the past 20 years. Reading contemporary (read: anything post-WWII) foreign literature in translation is so uncommon that the people most enthusastic about foreign lit are parodied and mocked in American literary magazines. (Remember the whole Brodernism dust-up from last year?) Also, American writers keep their focus entirely on American cultural concerns, American ideas, American controversies, and American hot-button issues, and care little about investigating what's going on outside their borders. The average contemporary German writer of any merit could name a few contemporary American writers they enjoy reading -- I'd be stunned if the average contemporary American writer of any merit could name a single contemporary German writer that isn't Mann. And I'd be pleasantly surprised if they said Mann, who's BARELY contemporary.
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>>25064467
>WOOO LET'S GO-ACK!
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France and Poland each have more population than Norway, Sweden and Denmark combined.
Look at the Nordic writers that got the Nobels - irrelevant literally who
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t. historylets
Where does "France" come from? Franks. What are they? German
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>>25064094
>India on the list since 1910 and one of the notable non-European countries
>not a real country until 1947
I smell shenanigans...and curry.
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>>25066172
This isn't an accurate view of France. France is a multiethnic country.
>Basques in the southwest
>Brits in the West
>Nordic in the north
>Germanic in the east
>Italian in the south
Not much of France is Frank. It is only called so because the founder, Charlemagne, was Frank.
Not to mention the many many people who trace their lineage back to Gaul. And not to mention the many peoples who have been integrated over the years through colonies and conquests like Algerians, Niceans, Burgunds. Second only to France in this matter is Russia.
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Funny how even after all these years people are still debating whether France should be considered a nord or med country.
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America has spawned legions of talented novelists, poets, and short story writers, and there's no point challenging the achievement of the Brits. Also,
>appealing to Nobel authority in 2026
The only award with any meaning is the Fields Medal.
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