East vs West Thread GO!

>>23637348
what

>>23637330
It's grown into a really fat fucking game over the last few years, lots of content now. The only major drawback is the procedural missions get really fucking repetitive long before you're through the first campaigns, and once we get to the clan invasion stuff, the mission difficulty is just fucked. The story missions are easier than the tier 3 missions, but the proc gen missions are nightmare world. On demolition missions you'll regularly fight 30-40 light mechs that endlessly trickle in.

Unfortunately PGI is probably going under in the next couple years because even despite the higher than expected sales of the Clans expac for MW5, the Clans games themselves seem to be under performing, one of their unannounced projects was supposedly cancelled, and half the studio was laid off earlier this year.

>>23637330
Is it still a basic bitch action game?

>>23637436
Feels kind of pointless if you're not already sucked in to buy all the dlc when infinity extra missions types and mech bodies doesn't matter much when the AI still sucks and the game can't handle difficulty without just drowning you in mechs.

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PC= MechWarrior 3, Heavy Gear 1.
PSX= Mad Stalker: Full Metal Force.
SS= GunGriffon 1 & 2.
PS2= Armored Core 2/Another Age, GunGriffon: Blaze.
XB= GunGriffon: Allied Strike.
PS3= Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire.
XB360= Chromehounds.
PS360= Armored Core 4/For Answer, Armored Core V/Verdict Day.
PSP= Armored Core Last Raven Portable, Kidou Senshi Gundam: Senjou No Kizuna Portable, Vulcanus: Seek & Destroy.

M.U.S.H.A Aleste, Assault Suits Valken + Leynos, Gundam Wing Endless Duel, Mad Stalker, Armored Warriors + Cyberbots, Tech Romancer, Zone of The Enders, Armored Core, Xenogears, Xenosaga, Mecha BREAK,

>>23637330
Total Annihilation.

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After Burst is a fun little puzzle-platformer, moderately playable on a phone
sorta bananas.bas, but you're a robot walking and jumping around while aiming carefully to take out the targets

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I think Steel Battalion is very cool, even if it's expensive and hard to play, but it can't get more mecha than that game

I would, however, recommend assault suit valken on SNES it's pretty fun

>>23637330
Geppy X.

Zero Ranger is fucking kino

>>23637330
I think MechWarrior IV: Vengeance deserves more love, even though I'm 100% biased towards it because it was my first Battletech-related game. Also, this thread reminded me that I have to play MegaMek soon.

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>>23637330
Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries got me around shooting 4 money some time ago, but recently i got hooked by 2 other mecha games: Daemon X Machina (the first one, there is another coming IIRC) and a shitty Unity top-view twin stick shooter: HSS reloaded.

Another Century's Episode 1, 2, 3 and R. No other mecha game comes close. It's Super Robot Wars but you can actually control the mecha in real time instead of turn based.

And the intro from the 1st game still slaps HARD.

>>23648412
>the first one, there is another coming IIRC

My dude, if this isn't a bit then you're a bit late to the party, the sequel has been out for a while now.

Mechwarrior 5 Mercs is too addicting. Fuck, I can't stop blowing up house mechs using my carryover mechs with clan weapons in IS mechs. Shit's fucking cash using an Atlas 2 with 4 Clan Medium Pulse and LBX AC20

>>23648733
haven't paying attention lately, and i dont know if my toaster can run it.

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In trend of recent games, i've been trying Granvir.
When it comes to customization, i'm completely hooked.
You can dick around a lot and still make effective builds. In this case 4 arms, 2 pistols and 2 missile-shields and i can use them all seperately.
I could use it to block one shield from the front and keep the other at the side, making my left flank nigh invulnerable while shooting missiles.
It's got a lotta parts which are pretty funny. Like a laser penis show, or croc chest with flamethrower, a gun face.
The enemy is braindead and spammy but it still makes for a decent tech demo.

>>23637703
based simulatorchad

>>23648421
i only know that game from the cinematic opening but it looks peak

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>>23644972
My man. Between that and the Dave and Buster's cockpit simulator, my autistic fate was sealed.

>>23637330
Ace combat
I wish team aces someday made a macross game

Why don't these fag make a simple $60/70 game with progression similar to single player game

>>23656301
they have been for like 2 years, it's what the MW5 Clans spinoffs are.

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I have been playing break arts 3 recently. It reminds me of igpx and lets me race/fight/go fast.

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This and Zeonic Front. The advertisements for Blue Destiny and GM Sniper animes blew my mind as a kid.

>>23648834
What's wild about 5M is hearing everyone play the game normally like that, meanwhile my experience with it due to how late I jumped in was just running the gladiator circuit nonstop and feeling like I missed nothing in terms of salvage and income.

I don't think I've ever actually triggered a mercenary unit encounter because I just kept prize fighting instead of doing contractwork.

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>>23637330
After getting hooked on Armored Core VI, I've gone back and started working my way through the series from the beginning. Currently on Armored Core 2, but I gotta admit that I keep going back to Master of Arena to chip away at the extra arenas. Armored Core 1 is definitely the best in terms of sheer PvE mission variety, though. There's a bit of a learning curve to the controls, but once you get them down, it feels so good.

>>23637330
Xenogears.

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>>23637330
Mechassault 2 Lone Wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfC00GUQ-9w

Currently I'm playing phantom brigade. It has a learning curve to it but once you learn melee it levels the playing field. Has nice customization and found a mod that breaks down the armor to make it even more customizable. Wish there were more Vidar suit parts.....

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I still need to play the rest of the series but I loved the OG Front Mission. I'm a massive strategy RPG fag tho

>>23637330
R-Type
SRWD
EDF5+6
Titanfall 2
Saisei hen and Hakai hen were also good

Gotcha Force all day every day

Xenogears
SRW Alpha Gaiden
SRW Alpha 2
SRW Alpha 3
SRW MX
SRW OGs
SRW OGG
SRW Z
SRW Z2
SRW J
SRW W
SRW K
SRW L
Macross Scramble Valkyrie
Macross DYRL
Macross VF-X 2
Armored Warriors
Cyberbots
Tech Romancer
Assault Suit Leynos
Assault Suits Valken
Front Mission Gun Hazard
Front Mission 3
Front Mission 4
Front Mission 5
Gunbuster
Titanfall 2

>>23649027
Do you pick better parts as you go or can you just stick with what you think looks good?

>>23667903
If you simply want to stick to the same cosmetic, there is a tier 01-04 system.
You choose your character which could be a scavenger, merchant, mercenary.. which means you level that same weapon either through pulling it from corpses, visiting the black market and getting lucky, or upgrading it yourself as a gearhead.

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I want to rant about how badly I bounced off front mission 3. I tried 3, because I usually like PS1 games. I hate 3. It's a pretty slow, basic, and clunky console tactics game, but the main character I want to see pulled apart by wild horses. He's always screaming "I don't care about that! I just want to save my sister!" no matter the scenario. He gets held at gunpoint by like 7 military mechs in the opening of the second scenario, and he's still ranting about his sister and how everyone should just get out of his way. He then gets held in detention and refuses to name his very important father because "I got nothing to do with that guy, and where's my sister?".
I hate listening to this guy so fucking much. He screams at anyone. People holding him at gunpoint. The police. Mystery women. The captain of the ship he's traveling on. His best friend. He just never fucking stops going "yeah, but where's my sister!!!". He could see aliens descend upon earth and tell him they want to share the secrets of the universe with him and he'd go "HUH? what's that got to do with saving my siiiiiiister!!!!".
The more I interact with this series the more I'm surprised why it's such a sleeper, anyway. It's extremely basic tactics with lots of random to hit chance and not really any tactics aside from "get everyone to shoot the same guy". I'm genuinely coming off thinking Evolve and Left alive were almost healthy directions for the series. The mechs are very cool though.

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So with regards to future mecha vidya, your options are:

>Scramble Vice
>Kriegsfront tactics
>beta decay
>Code: Rapid
>Brigador killers
>front mission 3 remake(PC)
>Granvir
>machineclad
>mech havoc
>AEROMACHINA
>mecharashi
>Metal eden
>Diesel Knights
>Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion
>Heavy Gear 3
>EOD:Engines of Destruction
>Ironwing Valiant
>drift shell
>omega phenex
>hammer (by redroryotheglen)
>armed frame
>vulture unlimited frontier
>project landsword
>lavrock last fortress
>BC Piezophile
>Psycho Patrol R
>Mecha Simultactics
>RIG Riot
>hardshell
>scraps of the machine
>Mecha Knights: Nightmare 2
>Bounty Star
>Cargohunters
>feed my mech
>Blow-up: Avenge Humanity
>Steel Bounty

also, for those contrarians with doubts about kriegsfront at all, they have the official blessing of the east bestowed upon the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSbr4C42z0Y
skip to 3:12

Apparently the Mechwarrior game is in a good place now?

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Dead Hand. Hard, janky, awesome.

>>23668734
Alisa is quite the looker, though. Can you really blame my man Kazuki?
The issue with 3, apparently, is that Square had a bigger role in steering the writing to make it more appealing for younger audiences, so it was less brooding and war-like and more 'juvenile', making a weird mix of geopolitical intrigue left in the background while screeching kids chaperoned by glowies, defectors and supersoldiers remained at the front. I keep going back to 3 for the capturing mechanics and 'sparking' skills, but that's me.
I'd tell you to keep going if you haven't played 4 and 5. The gameplay becomes more squad-oriented and it puts more enphasis in teamwork by giving defined roles to pilots and linking/chaining their actions, be it directly (4) or automatically (5). Five gives you a lot of freedom because you can recruit different pilots at certain points and try multiple set-ups of these roles and the weapons/backpacks they can use. 4's plot can be a bit sluggish as it jumps back and forth between two stories that converge midway and 5's plot is more enjoyable if you pick up references/timeframes from the previous games, but it's more generic fluff than anything if you're there for the gameplay and Wanzers -- and neither of those has whiny kids for characters, so that's a plus.

For me its the Zoids games, FMC and Infinity Fuzors

>>23673896
FMC?

>>23673909
Full metal crash

>>23673399
It's probably "feature complete" and you'll have more fun with it than any previous version. Adding all the clan mechs was a pretty big bump to the roster.
They'll never fix the AI and every mission is still a wave shooter, and these are too complex for mods to really fix either, but it is what it is.
>>23673392
I'm glad steel bounty got picked up. It doesn't necessarily look as impressive as some others and I hope the untextured look doesn't turn people away/gets options later, but he's quietly doing a lot of shit that people don't even think about like a functioning multi-target system and the first person ejection.

>>23673968
shouldnt matter once the gameplay is good. if you worry about realism then youre better off playing the mechawarrior 5

>>23673399
5Mercs?
For a while, actually, depending on who you ask. As of the most recent DLC it's even starting to compete with the likes of 2Mercs in my eyes as the most comprehensive Succ Wars era game for Inner Sphere stuff.
5Clans has the implication of like 2 more DLC campaigns at minimum to give the whole of the Clan Invasion factions a spotlight and really the only neg I would throw at it as an overall package is that it runs like ass compared to 5Mercs, and I can only blame UE5 for so much of that when we're finally starting to see UE5 games that don't require infinite compute resources to run at a reasonable frame rate.

>>23674307
Not realism, just aesthetics. I like selecting skins/paint schemes for mechs either way.

test

My favorite mecha game is when I'm in the bathroom and I'm taking a shit and I pretend I'm in the cockpit of a robot and then I accidentally drop my robot toy in the toilet and have to fish it out of my poo, and then just as I pull it out, I shit myself and leave a mess on the carpet.

>>23674674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sApyz4YmFc&t=8s

>>23637330
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram. Unfortunately no local arcades have it anymore
>b-b-but Dreamcast
>b-b-but X-Box 360
IT'S NOT THE SAME

Honorable mention goes to Armored Warriors

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https://youtu.be/ntRsBkqUGas?si=eX5-EbdhFbNG-kvH&t=669

>dem menus
>dat first person HUD
>the clunkiness and recoil of the MG and the bazooka weapons
>shooting a Zeon transport and watching it go down
HHHHHNNNNGGGHHH

>>23675390

Sadly, it is one game that has not been ported or anything, so the controls are archaic at best.

As much as I love my memories about it, nostalgia cannot help me play it with a modern controller.

>>23674878
>IT'S NOT THE SAME
Its just as good, quit cryin you baby

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Not sure if it counts but Metal Unit is a fun little side scroller with mechs and cute waifus.

>>23674878
Play it with Supermodel (Sega Model 3 emulator), if you're so anal about it.

>>23641500
Good choice

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>>23637330
Can't believe nobody has mentioned Into The Breach yet. Great mecha game and completely humiliates all other turn-based isometric games.

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>>23637330
Zone of the enders second runner is still my favorite mecha game besides maybe Ace another century's episode 3

>>23678194
That the one with Dolores?

>>23676538
It should count.

>>23676538
>>23683596
Is there some reason it wouldn't?

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THE CUTE TRASH CAN OF DOOM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjidn2mcHgk

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These two are fucking awesome and I can't decide which one I like more.

>>23642124
Brigador is so damn good
It's hard to put into words how satisfying clearing East 12 districts can be if you play random and roll a Party Van.

how was the latest Front Mission game? I didn't get into it, and I see a Front Mission 3 remake on GoG.

>>23673392
I wish I had as much optimism as Scramble Vice poster that anything was going to happen in 2026.

>>23637703
The best Grungriffon (and probably the best simulationist mech game) is the Gungriffon fan game for PC.

>>23683013
Same franchise yeah but Dolores is from the OVA/anime series

>>23668734
In regards to not having random hit chances, maybe you might like Kriegsfront Tactics since it has less of that and you can actually aim your mechs weapons like its valkyria chronicles

>>23686056
NTA but I'll definitely like Kriegsfront Tactics, once it finally comes out. Whenever that may be.

>>23686047
Did that ever get an english release?

xol space mech wars
This shit is all I want from a gundam game
They know the gundam market more than bandai
Fucking based gundam knockoff of zeon and the one year war

>>23686067
nope. i think there's a pdf manual some guy made that's actually in english tho

>>23686067
>>23686596
There's a youtube series that basically goes through all the details of every mission, so if you get stuck, that's the place. Unfortunately being in character is cool but makes it super wordy and extended when you might want to just know a few details. Be nice to have a cutdown version with an faq.

>>23656262
Wtf is that?

>>23689764
Something from the last season of Samurai Jack, I presume. It's been years since I watched the show but I remember the scottsman.

Any super robot games where you can customise your own mech?

>>23678149
ItB is a good game but I always register it as a puzzle game more than a mecha one.
Also, Lily Reed is my MVP and playing as the Flame Behemoths shouldn't be as fun as it is.

>>23690661
Based. And I agree, mechs are really just the setting. The upgrade system is really as far into mech tech as it gets. Still a great game.

>>23686047
Just emulate Gungriffon 2 to see how wrong you are.

>>23686024
Battle Universe definitely

Are there other games like geppy x? Specifically, the horizontal scrolling part, though the whole package is cool.


Also, have any of you played FM2 remake recently? I heard the translation was bad and I was hoping they patched it up or maybe there's a mod floating around?

>>23673392
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3207450/awoken/

>>23692959
federx, this is your first game isnt it?

>>23692959
>(a)woken
More like /a/woken.
Thank you for including such a revolutionary feature as the Female Protagonist Monitor™ inside the cockpit, reminding the player to jerk off to anime tiddies while he plays the game.

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>>23637330
I know this one looks like 2012 roblox but it's SO much fun

How's megaton musashi w? It seems like it plays nice enough. I tried looking up some info on the collabs, it seems all versions get them, but are they any good? The mazins seem like they're ok but getter doesn't seem like it gets the other forms, and it might not get all the attacks?

>>23637436
Firing half the studio after the game launches is common. You just don't need as many devs for maintenance and expansions as you do for actual game and tool development. Clans definitely didn't make as much as they wanted, but they keep making good DLC, so there's at least some money in it.

>>23694651
It's fine if you can stand the gacha mechanics. I gave it an honest try after watching the anime series, just to see where the plot went afterwards and after finally getting to the point where the game continues on with it, I burned out on it and didn't pick it back up for what may already be years now.

>>23691682
Not a fan of the inability to choose your skills directly in it. I have to sit there and dick around with my name to get the skills I want when I replay it. Also there's no upside to being an oldtype in it.

>>23696409
There's supposed to be upsides to being an oldtype?

>>23696422
Bragging rights, maybe?

>>23696422
There are upsides to being a Natural or Coordinator in Battle Destiny, both are good options. There’s no good reason at all to be an oldtype in Battle Universe - your stats increase slower and you’re completely locked out of many MS, especially in the later eras. Whereas Battle Destiny is happy to let Naturals use Coordinator MS with a stat penalty.

Should I get Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries on the sale? If so, what's the most important DLC? I don't want to buy more than 1 or 2.

>>23696937
Heroes of the Inner Sphere is a must-buy. idk what the second best is

>>23696937
They're all kinda meaningful for content reasons since a bunch of them solve for the lack of long campaigns not to mention that some of the most important events in the early 31st century BT chronology happen during those campaigns, not to mention the mech and equipment additions.

I think if you're in it for geopolitical story time, focus on everything but Solaris Showdown, CtA and HotIS, but those 3 help flesh out gameplay systems as i recall, with Solaris giving you the lucrative play option of just abusing arena contracts for cash and salvage.

Another way to look at it is this: do you like the Clan Invasion era more than late Succ Wars? If so, you can jump on Shadows of Kerensky and play it as the epilogue/sequel to the base campaign story as well as the direct tie in to the events going on in 5Clans (I believe the Ghost Bears dlc scenario in 5C overlaps with the events of Shadows).

...really, I don't think you can go wrong with any of them, they all cumulatively build onto and make 5mercs into a better game than it was at base launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfRwM6-ZWE

Bangai-oh Spirits

>>23690558
Megaton Musashi, but I personally found the customisation wanting.

>>23673632
Thank you so much for letting me discover this game, it's amazing

>>23702466
My pleasure, it really should be better known.

>>23673632
How do you mean janky?

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>>23706429
I probably should stop replying to bump posts...

Dead hand is a very 3d game, the levels are randomly generated caves that can be fully destroyed / deformed with rockets and digging tools in any direction (a bit like a 3d Worms game, see picrel). Making sense of the "topography" of the level can be hard from an overhead view, so the game gives you a free camera (think of Descent without the roll) which takes some time to get used to.

Since the tanks can rotate in place there can be some clipping against the terrain, especially with long vehicles and front guns.

The AI can be very dumb (by design, according to the dev), for instance it's common for sniper enemies to spend their turn shooting at 2m thick cover they can't penetrate.

The UI and SFX are very barebones. Not unusual in roguelikes, but still...

You're thrown in at the deep end, there's no hand holding and no tutorials, just a few "how to play" slides. And the game is very demanding, you have to do things right or you'll die very quickly.

Even with all that I love it. Great atmosphere, hard but fair difficulty, and once you get into the groove of things it plays very snappily which is unusual in turn based tactical games. Also, tanks with legs.

https://youtu.be/VAtgdFQ6S-o

>>23706890
>I probably should stop replying to bump posts...
But why tho?

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this game is ball, best $2 i've ever spent

>>23708480
I don't like how it makes you scroll through your weapons one by one, I'd rather have more limited weapon slots that I could either use immediately or scroll between max 2 per slot.

>>23686018
Reminds me of how Little Suzy does the monkey.

>>23696409
Someone's gotta be the cannon fodder.

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i usually despise strategyslop but FUCK this one is awesome

>>23712009
What's new/better in 2.0?
I played it at launch and didn't like it much. I'd rather play Frozen Synapse or Doorkickers.

>>23712009
>>23712077
Just don't watch any of the dev team videos. Holy fuck.

>>23712244
What's wrong?

>>23712244
Why? Are they that bad or that good?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDeMYDAfU1I
Not sure I agree with the new infantry focus but I guess we'll have to see where they're going with it.

>>23712077
I don't know what's new, i just picked it up because it's 50% off.

>>23708480
i've never seen people talk about the sequel

>>23715494
There's a sequel?

>>23713222
It's all fine as long as you get to steal your way up to giant robots and armed Tuk-tuks again.

>>23712743
>>23712752
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5KGN8qg0-HQ

There's a reason devs should not be seen or heard.

>>23641484
This with the Destroid pack.

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Old guys might remember the side-scrolling 80s arcade game SideArms.

>>23715607
>There's a reason [content makers] should not be seen or heard.
I still remember the first time I looked up what the bands I liked looked like and most of them looked like massive faggots, as par for the course for many """artistic""" types.

>>23715607
Never meet your heroes i guess. Ah well, i don't care if the community facing dev team are the band class hallway rejects, the game is still really good imo

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With all its jank and Piggy's dumb decisions still nothing beats Mechwarrior Online for me.
It gets the feel of the mech just right (even if its not the exact type of mecha I prefer, I delivers what it's going for the best) and mechlab is absolute god tier. Every hitbox and hardpoint placement matters, you can feel all of your mechlabs decisions in how the mech is handling.
I hope we get another customization-focused mecha PvP game with just as much replayability eventually. As much as I love MWO, it's old and busted.

>>23716900
Iron Rebellion seems legit, but it's VR.

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>>23717035
nta but i was gonna ge that but went with pic rel instead, its hella fun

>>23715543
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1399170/Nimbus_INFINITY/

>>23716900
>As much as I love MWO, it's old and busted
I just wish they would like 1.5x all armor to increase TTK. I poke my face around the wrong corner and suddenly I'm stripped. It's super frustrating.

>>23719720
I blame 12v12.

>>23637330
I set up hotas+vr for this game but didnt have time yet to test it properly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilAwYJaLSKQ

I think there is something here. Those are good mechanical designs

I replay Strike Suit Zero from time to time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjvKWtefU9c

>>23720721
What's delaying you?

>>23722829
Tariffs.

>>23724052
WUT

>>23637330
MW3, those Damocles commandos were fucking cool. Behind enemy lines with no support and no time to worry if that Clan ER L Laser will be good for the health of that Bushwacker, just duct tape and hit it.

>>23716900
Is that a setup for a Jet Stream Attack?

>>23667282
2 is a nightmare, 3, 4 and 5 are all pretty playable games, 2 is just miserable to play because everything takes a million years to happen if you don't use emulator speedup.

>>23726904
How do you mean?

>>23727361
NTA but the combat animations take forever, with wanzers skating around each other and what not as they trade shots. It may look cool at first but it just goes on and on and on. Nothing as concise as in any of the other games in the series. I've beaten it years ago on the emulator, so I don't know if the remake improves anything but I only made it through because I turned off the combat cutscenes, aside from maybe turning them back on during boss encounters, just like I do in SRW.

>>23726904
>>23727523
For the new version, the biggest upside you get is being able to play FM2 with snappier load times, but yeah it still plays like a relic from another time meaning you either tolerate the animations playing out all the time or disable them.

>>23727361
The 6-man robo gangbangs in 5 take less time than the mano-a-mano fights in 2.

>>23726364
Yeah, by a bunch of walking turrets.

>>23667430
And all night every night.

>>23667430
>Gotcha
Gacha?

>>23712009
What's the format?

>>23733333
Kind of like realtime-with-pause, but you can see movements and trajectories a few seconds into the future. It's very very very jank but works well enough and is quite novel. I couldn't get super into it, not a fan of procedurally generated open-world "build your own squad" type games that everything in the west seems to be now.

>>23644079
He looks familiar.

>>23713222
What's solo nobre?