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First for best esper.

I still have enough time to start and finish Muv-Luv this year, right?

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>>23681433
I'm sure you can get it over with if you read like 12 to 15 hours a day. Also birthday posting.

Is Reverse Collapse worth it? A friend recommended it and it's giving Mabu Labu vibes.

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pJck ʏouR ꜰJGHteR

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>>23681915
Naturally these two.

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>>23681915
>>23682031
She has such ridiculous sex hair.

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>>23682046
Both are pure sex.

>>23681606
>>23682046
>>23682031
>>23682082
I am now eight hundred percent more motivated to start Muv-Luv now

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>>23682214
Heads up, but Beatrix is an evil woman. She does not have a good relationship with the protagonists.

>>23682378
>but Beatrix is an evil woman.
Beatrix was right, did nothing wrong and the "moderate" rebels were scum. And future terrorists.

She dindu nuffin!

>>23681867
Very good game, I put 100 hours in it. Not really like Muv-Luv, though.

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>>23681867
Great game. I can understand the Muv vibes too, though it's not really like it beyond that.

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>>23681867
Thirded. Very gud game. My goty for 2024.

Mabu Labu vibes come more from the timeloop & alt-history techno thriller aspects I think. And the world collapse due to China fucking up? Otherwise it's very much its own thing.

Have a hot chick in a plugsuit from the Werewolf SpecOps since we're posting those.

>>23681915

Space Tornado Ayamine > Drill Milky Punch. The others have no named fighting moves.

>>23682378
I can fix her

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>>23682378
Beatrix isn't evil. Just antagonistic and did nothing wrong.

Have they given us Strike Frontier back?

>>23682974
tits

>>23682378
Whoever insisted on removing anatomical correctness from the fortified suits should've been lynched for it.

>>23682692
You can't fix her.

>>23683807
You don't know me

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>>23683807
You absolutely can.

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Imagine having such a catastrofic loss of population you decide to hide your demographic data from the public... like Russia lol
I've been reading TDA very slowly and despite the main gang being pretty upbeat most of the time, it feels kind of depressing.

>>23683815
Okay, Klaus.

>>23684020
It's got tonal whiplash, especially in 01. The setting is grim as fuck, yet we also have silly Anime moments. It's the problem when you're trying to have Extra-style shenanigans and Alternative blood and BETA and cool robots in the same entry.

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>>23681915
>two Lise types
Nice

>>23684500
Not at all. If your story is all grimdark, all the time, none of the truly bad moments are gonna make an impact on the reader. In TDA you have Miono giving Hibiki a letter he thinks is a confession because Ellen told her to troll him. You also have her cheerfully talking about 10 y/o child soldiers, which people seem to find shocking. Remove the former and the latter doesn't land nearly as hard.

Anyone got the link for the Schwaken VN promo site?

About to start playing this series. I remember once seeing an absolutely batshit timeline/play order chart on here a hundred years ago, but now no longer have it. Anyone know what I'm talking about and have it if so?

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>>23685933
Actually no I found it nevermind

>>23685947
Good chart, used that to recommend a friend to play the game. Wouldn't call it batshit though.

>>23686196
In all honesty it'd been years since I saved it and I thought it was one of those semi-comedic flowcharts that had a bunch of "joke-but-not-really" picks on it for play order. But yeah, I had always been interested in playing it but was just too lazy to get around to it until someone bought me it on Steam.

>>23686226
welcome to the suffering

>>23686234
No, the real suffering is far more meta.

>>23681915
Where male fighter so I could just beat up all girls? And masturbate to that.
Like I always do in fighting games.

https://muvluv.com/news/4275/
>Director (direction and planning)
>We are looking for a position to plan and develop new games or production plans based on the "Muv-Luv Tactics" game engine.
>Task: Submit a concrete proposal to combine the world view, setting, and scenario of "Muv-Luv TACTICS RESONATIVE (tentative title)" with a specific game genre or system, and reach a wider audience.
>Desired candidate: Someone who can propose plans and productions that are marketable as a "product" rather than just fulfilling the desires of a fan. We are open to expansion plans for new gameplay, not just within the framework of S-RPG or ADV.

>Scenario writer
>We are looking for a position to write a scenario that brings out the charm of the characters while adhering to the worldview and setting of the Muv-Luv series.
>Assignment: Submit a short scenario (including plot) using past achievements or the setting of this series.
>Desired candidate: Someone who can see "Muv-Luv TACTICS RESONATIVE (tentative title)" as their own work and who can proceed with production with a strong will, while still adhering to the set guidelines.

Does anyone want to volunteer to save Muv Luv?

>>23688884
Sorry, I may be an award-winning short story writer but I'm squarely in the "fulfilling the desires of a fan" camp.

>>23688884
So did Kouki get fired or what

>>23689176
Since 2019 ? i don't remember but he said he is unemployed

>>23689176
Not even sure what the product is supposed to be, if it's supposed to be a game then it's not surprising he's not in charge. Page seems to indicate that it's not actually Resonative?

>>23688884
resonative is getting really close to being the biggest clusterfuck I have ever seen.

Not that this means anything to us, because we've got the copies in the OP, but they're stopping the sales of the Manga.
https://muvluv.com/en/news/919/

What the fuck's going on. Is this it?

>>23689260
>Please note that the title will continue to be available for purchase on Kindle and Steam

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schwarzmarken on steam when

>>23689389
Never, they're fucking dying

>>23689264
With DRM.

>>23689389
>complete and total financial failure on steam when

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>>23689389
Hopefully it happens. It's been on Greenlight for who knows how long.

>>23689389
>that pic
lmao

>>23688884
What ever happened to Chicken Divers?

>>23689389
link to promo website when

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Seems to be doing well at Comiket

>>23689752
Wasn't that in photonflowers?

>>23690351
he probably means Last Divers
You'll never see that shit because they were too lazy to throw it in as a TDA bonus and are also too lazy to make a new photon collection for it + war ensemble

>>23690425
No surprise; they were too lazy to even give the scenery a proper upscale for the hi-res rerelease of the original trilogy.

>>23689389
Never ever.
You are far more likely to see Girls Garden Global pop up.

>>23689176
Reminder kouki isn't actually writing Tactics, it is (was?) the MLA anime guy.

>>23691626
They really want people to like the tactics girl but she looks so fucking trashy.

>>23691670
Kinda makes me feel bad for her.

>>23691787
It's dulled seeing how she keeps giving off the feeling she deliberately pushed herself into the picture with girls who are too friendly to tell her to fuck off.

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Kiminozo collab soon™

Kouki's Gundam or Tomino's Muv Luv.

>>23691906
I'm seeing double here! Four Harukas!

Affordable Lise clones who are programmed to bond with you like the original did with Theo when?

>>23691906
There 3 men in that photo and there cool

>>23692301
God I wish

I'm so glad I played ML and MLA blind when I was a teen. Just the quality differences between ML and MLA was crazy.
>ML being text boxes and 480p
>Boot up MLA
>It's fucking wide screen
>the DBZ guy is singing the main opening
>bunch of god tier kamige animation in the opening
>subtitles instead of text box
Like that shift is insanely good but it's sad that the re-release spoil the heavy mecha twist (well it's kinda obvious now) and backport all the neat stuff from MLA to MLE and MLU. They even switched MLU's opening song a lot more serious rather than Muv Luv again. (I still like it though)

>>23692997
I'm also rather irate that they replaced all the musical pastiches, and some weren't even included on the first release of he OST!

>>23693001
Gone but not forgotten.

https://youtu.be/9e1VzG_qWRE?si=YVgGrHn4KUGqf3XQ

>>23693004
kek i remember this song too.

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>>23693005
Between that and the Starship Troopers parody, they were gonna get their assess sued off if they didn't take 'em out for an international release. I see why they were removed, but it's sure funny to hear them.

>>23693004
STAND A CHANCE PASTICHE FUCKING WHERE?!

>>23693014
Not sure that's how copyright law works even in the west.

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>>23688884
i would like to see how is gonna end...

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>>23691908
why not Hideaki Anno's Unlimited?
you can (not) fuck it up

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>>23693014
>Between that and the Starship Troopers parody
That Klendathu drop pastiche actually foreshadowed that Sadogashima was going to go as badly as Klendathu.

Man I thought Starship Troopers was going to scratch the same itch but the movie is goofy as fuck (I get it's intentional) which whatever it's in good fun and the novel was just full military and society talk jargon. I want my traumatized PTSD soldier read....

Give it to me for real. Is this series going to live?

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>>23693820
Sometimes... dead is bettah. What comes back out of the ground... isn't what you put in.

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>>23693820
Hopefully not, at this point.
They shouldn't have kept going after the last TDA, honestly (and that's being generous; I personally wouldn't keep going after Total Eclipse).
Things should be allowed to end. Of course, that is being naïve; suits and creatives alike always get greedy when something is even mildly succesful, and so they milk everything and anything no matter how moribund it is.
The way MuvLuv is right now reminds me of the current state of Halo: they're both now a total joke, to fans and casuals alike, all the while the suits in charge are desperately trying to do anything to revitalize these IPs.

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>>23693820
It's doing better than it has in decades so I'd say yes.

>>23693820
Visual novels are a gigadead medium and they don't have the talent or resources to make games. Not that it would be preferable, considering you usually take massive storytelling hits making actual games.

>>23694011
Looks like that msgk from the new Pokémon series.

>>23680905
how much is the ip even worth now

>>23694641
At least several million dollars.

>>23694641
the only product making money is a generic blue archive clone so probably not much

>>23695089
>generic blue archive clone
When did blue archive have sex and mecha!?

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Did the SM art book ever get scanned?

>>23695192
>blue archive have gooners and ships
same same , but different!

>>23699100
... Not at all in either sense? I'm honestly not sure who you're kidding or if you bother paying attention to the gacha space at all. If you want to revel in ignorance, don't bother posting.

>>23699226
If he hadn't posted the thread would have fallen off the board because there's fucking nothing to talk about besides a gacha that nobody in the thread expect for you actually likes or plays

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>>23699226
>paying attention to the gacha space

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>>23695192
>mecha
Well, it does have mecha

>>23699422
Death to gacha.

>>23699422
Little robots aren't good enough. The lack of sex is a huge setback too.

I will bully Ilfriede!

>>23698837
Did the original color illustrations from the original run in Tech Gian ever get scanned?

>>23699229
Yeah, too bad the one that was actually worthwhile got axed.

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>>23700449
TSFIA? scanned.
dunno the rest

>>23701210
SM. Follow the response chain, aoon.

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>>23700399
I doubt you could. She is very powerful.

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Let's inject experimental drugs into little girls!

>>23701923
Why not?

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>>23701923
That's TDA, right? Totally justified in their situation. There won't be a next generation.

>>23700453
But Girls Garden is the only worthwhile gacha they've ever had.

>>23702151
What's even the plot and how does it relate to ML?

>>23702152
Cute girls go mining with giant robots. That's the premise. There is no plot. Enjoy gooning over your chosen waifu.

>>23702152
>What's even the plot
Depends on the route.
>>23702239
You don't need to lie.

>>23702151
>But Strike Frontier is the only worthwhile gacha they've ever had.
FTFY

>>23701923
Kinomoto Sakura?!

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>>23702144
>dat pic
*sips*
Yep, Muv-Luv was a good VN

>most of the original fans are +40 years old right now
>mfw

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>>23701654
>the legendary "german stare"
heh

>>23701923
>>23702144
with all the stuff the food industry put in animals and vegetables , we have some similar shit in real life, lol

>>23702983
yeah and i bet you think directional proteins make sense, too

>>23702621
Said by someone who didn't play SF.

>>23703067
Directional Proteins were from Kaseki no Uta. Muv Luv simply backported them in.

>>23703593
>directional proteins were from (practically completely different setting)

>>23703593
Proteins that make you forget about Christmas are retarded, no matter where they come from.

>>23703528
Said by someone channeling the four-flushing blowhard who suckered Kouki into axing SF in favor of his own bug-ridden ksg.

>>23703877
No? I disliked SF, Immortals, and Dimensions.

>>23703909
What about Next Answer?

>>23703920
Kusoge.

>Strike Frontier
Rape Katagiri Yuna
Mindbreak Katagiri Yuna
Beat Katagiri Yuna
That is all

>>23703909
Girls Garden hasn't brought back any of the worthwhile content from SF (inb4 there was none), so it's no more worthwhile than any of the others.

>>23707826
That's the best part, they didn't miss a thing.

If I start Muv-Luv will I feel less lonely

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>>23708012
Maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp03MCodrOw

Some Youtuber made a video about Girl's Garden.

>>23708453
Cultural impact?

>>23707836
>That's the worst part, they missed everything.
FTFY

>>23708619
Who the fuck are you quoting?
>>23708453
Based. It's growing.

>>23708453
Would it be too much to hope any of the preexisting characters at least get walk-on appearances?

>>23708626
based goldfish anon not even glancing at the previous thread

Is liking Girl's Garden the new contrarian position? It's completely disconnected from the universe of the Muv Luv trilogy, and basically exists so dudes can spend money to jack off over their Waifu PNGs. It's in no way going to reinvigorate the franchise. What's there to like about it and the direction it heralds?

>>23708631
Disliking the most popular current entry associated with Muv-Luv is the contrarian position.
>PNGs
It's got animated H-scenes and has a ton of fully voiced content like a VN. Can you at least try to make informed shitposts?

>>23708627
Unsurprising since I've been out of the loop until Christmas Eve.

>>23708182
I think it's now time.

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お誕生日おめでとうございます月詠さん

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i have no idea about muv luv i just learned its cool mechas vs creepy aliens and bought the game just named "muv luv" on steam and this looks very slice of life ish from the intro is there even any mechas in this game im scared

>>23708631
It's just that one of the 4 autists that still visits this thread is really attached to the game because he spent money on it so he insists it's really good but won't post anything about that is actually good.

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>>23709958
Just dive in and start reading. All will be revealed.

>>23709958
might want to look into the uncensor patch, can't remember what the steam ver takes away. Also, tell us why you think Meiya is best girl?

>>23709958
Sure there's mechs, they play a mech video game in the arcade

>>23710174
what does steam take away? and how do you get it uncensored

>>23710671
>what does steam take away?
Sex scenes

>>23710700
but you get to see some naked scenes right? or is everything just off screen?

>>23710713
Off-screened and skipped. This is an all-ages version after all! Gore is okay, there's no harm in seeing someone's literal brains splattered, but nudity is VERBOTEN

>>23692997
Masami Okui Sion is one of my favorites OP (between Metamorphose, divergence and Photon melodies ones), really cool how it feel exactly how a real anime opening would, and beautifully expresses the motto of Unlimited. But i miss the foreshadowing of Sumika in Betaverse and Marimo-chan praying (the later was keep but is hard to tell she is praying)

>>23711316
>But i miss the foreshadowing of Sumika in Betaverse and Marimo-chan praying (the later was keep but is hard to tell she is praying)
What happened to those?

>>23711316
>really cool how it feel exactly how a real anime opening would
But only Muvluv has an animated opening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgDTuxQp798

>>23712318
The Extra opening to Unlimited opening was such a tone shift, regardless of using the same track. Even knowing about Unlimited's existence, I'm glad I didn't spoil it.

>>23712318
ik, but the direction was very lame compared to Sion, the synchronisation, choreography and pacing of the scene felt a little cheap, lacking on impact. Also a lot of "cheap" assets were completly overhaul, redesign and improved some only thanks to the digital post processing. You can see how they didn't had all that experience making this kind of videos.
>>23711366
in the original unlimited OP there was shot of sumika spirit (?) fading away in a battlefield, then Kasumi appears on the left, reacting to that, in Sion is the same scene but Sumika doesn't appear, The first footage was reused in the Alternative OP (both all ages and +18).
Probably the development of Sumika on alternative was originally planned to happen on unlimited (that will also explain why in the original OP Meiya had the Takemikazuchi)

>>23712704
>on

>>23712739
malo ingles por favor entender

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>>23708453
>blue archive with nikke's progression
>plus sex
None of the character designs appeal to me, though.
Also I feel sorry for this guy. Imagine being a youtuber specialized in covering all the obscure gacha garbage games out there. It's somehow worse than the people who specialized in covering kMMOs in the early 00s.

>>23680905
i dont understand these links. which one has the download for the first Muv Luv game?

>>23713939
(im trying my hardest to get the uncensored version of the game but idk how)

>>23713939
Archives, then find Unlimited. The Unlimited main menu lets you play Muv Luv Extra, and then after doing the two main routes you can play Unlimited (play every other route in extra first too though)

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>>23714061
do i download both? and are there any weird setup crap i need to do to make it work?

>>23714093
Haven't used that myself, but I imagine it goes something like
>mount iso and install game
>run english patch
>enjoy

>>23714136
its cooked mega.nz wont let me download anymore cause apparently im above their "limit"

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>>23714143
https://archive.org/download/Muv-Luv-Archive/archive20th/
both "latest Edition" are the stuff you searching for...

>>23715112
Got a link to the SM promo site with the character profiles and that flash game?

Now that we have the example of the war in Ukraine, did Kouki severely underestimate the role that small, cheap remote controlled drones could play in a war in which strategic air dominance is impossible to establish thanks to advanced air defense systems?

>>23716434
no? To even have a chance at hurting a single BETA you need bomber-level payloads, you're not doing shit with a grenade strapped to a quadcopter. And anything large enough to fly over the treeline gets LASER'd. Even if you could make car-sides drone that kamikaze'd and took aout a single tank or grappler, there's hundreds more, and humanity was struggling to produce enough basic bitch WW2 artillery shells.

>>23716457
Drone the laser class and there stoopid bloody eye via precision strike

>>23716434
>did x underestimate thing that came 10 years after x
???

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>>23716434
like >>23716778 posted, cheap drones are from recent times, Muv-Luv was written in early 2000s, kid.
Also, modern missiles (with electronics, not the first generation or Vietnam-era crap) are better to intercept Laser classes because their high speed gives less time to get targeted and fired.

>>23716457
>a chance at hurting a single BETA you need bomber-level payloads
only the big strains, the rest can be deal with "smaller" calibers...
>and humanity was struggling to produce enough basic bitch WW2 artillery shells.
that is partially true. Only the commies and ayysians had industrial problems.

>>23715145
i've seen it long time ago. maybe someone else might remember...
maybe its lost media by now

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>>23715145
>and that flash game?
Ahh Beatofort. And Laser-Gretel. Fun stuff.

>>23717528
Muv-Luv was written in early 2000s but I could see them mass producing cheap drones (rather than the heavy expensive kind we saw briefly in TE) with the technology they have on hand if they wanted to, especially with the same pressures that exist in Ukraine (traditional more expensive military drones being vulnerable to powerful ground based air defenses forcing a switch to large numbers of cheaper, more disposable low-flying options)
I agree that the payload of your average small FPV drone is unlikely to be useful against most BETA though.

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>youtube algorithm shilling the anime
do i?

Is there any more up to date archive of H-scenes from Girls Garden? Sadpanda's entry is from October and only has animated scenes, no static CGs.

>>23718029
Website URL required.

>>23718320
Sod that noise, I want a complete archive of the H-content from Strike Frontier!

>>23718248
Don't pay to watch but go ahead and watch it via torrent or pirate sites and then compare everything you see to the VN for fun

>>23718320
rule34video has some if you're talking h-scenes
>>23718409
Retard.

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>>23718248
>mfw I thought the Muv-Luv franchise couldn't be more dead but then Avex drives me into a blind vengeful frenzy by making an awful anime adaptation of the main trilogy that starts in the middle of the storyline and then they don't even make enough episodes to finish their already fucking truncated Alternative arc

>>23718248
Why the fuck did they change the 90s art style. Who was the idiot that approved this?

>>23719743
kouki was one of the principle people pushing that shit lmao, you can still see him signing off on bad design with the tactics girl who looks like a hooker

>>23720398
yeah because that's actually so similar to the flat muted dogshit anime designs

>>23719743
>90s
I know what you mean, but it's early 2000s, lmao.
I don't think updating the designs was a bad idea, but I don't know why they did it without preserving their essence, making them less colorful, "normal," and giving them generic anime hair, all for nothing. It's not like colorful and "impossible" hair is unpopular; it's still pretty popular in contemporary anime designs (look at Uma Musume, lmao).
Don't get me wrong, the OG Muv-Luv designs aren't perfect. I actually prefer the Kiminozo ones a lot (just compare Sumika from Akane Maniax to Muv-Luv). I think a good middle point between modern anime designs and early-2000s moe galge were the TDA, KimiIta Remake and Alternative manga ones

>>23721704
>I think a good middle point between modern anime designs and early-2000s moe galge were the TDA, KimiIta Remake and Alternative manga ones
Was still Sou designs or the next guy that had to redraw hastily?

>>23719743
I kind of like it, but in a guilty pleasure kind of way.

>>23719743
>>23721704
>>23724142
Personally, I'm not averse to the more realistic, less angular and overstarched to the point of defying gravity hairstyles, but I'll always lament the change in character designers because the original aesthetic was the best in every other aspect, in my opinion, and I'll always be sore that he just had to go and torpedo his own career.

>>23724236
Sadly, it was like that from the beginning. The original designs for Marimo, Chizuru, Sumika, etc., were by Baka-Ouji Persia. Then, for Extra, they changed the artist to Bou but kept the designs, with some alterations, like Sumika's complete sprite and Mikoto's eyes.

>>23724363
So was Bou the one who got busted for tracing?

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>>23726246
Nope, it was this dude. Miyata Sou.

>>23726651
I'll always resent him for committing career suicide; his replacement's aesthetic is neither a match nor an improvement.

>>23692997
>mfw we could've been had an anime equivalent
the biggest fucking fumble in the history of mankind ever. even if the anime doesn't really end up being that good the whole art/genre shift thing would've been insane.

>>23692997
>>It's fucking wide screen
>Like that shift is insanely good
They hacked off the top and bottom of the scenery (and the characters in some cases).

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>>23727358
>>23726651
Damn, that bad huh?

>>23728373
retard

Total eclipse's anime is any good? youtube just recommended me it's second OP, crazy good.

>>23728723
More like Cassandra, apparently.

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>>23729591
The first 2 episodes will make you believe that this is a grimdark war with mechas against the space bugs . But most of the time it will be far from the frontlines, so expect fanservice and Top Gun drama...

>>23729591
It's alright to watch but the anime differs from the VN which apparently also differs from the light novel so I suggest watching the anime then reading the VN then reading the Light novel for fun

>>23730023
The way you describe it reminds me of unlimited lmao.
>>23730059
neat, the LN is translated?

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I'm sorry, I thought this was AMERICA

I'm really glad to have left total eclipse last. Going from extra -> unlimited -> alternative, then TDA (so bleak MLA looks like sunshine and rainbows next to it), Schwarze (schizo and the weakest imo) and total eclipse was crazy good (very solid story). Damn, I'd say total eclipse is almost on par or equal to the main trilogy, that's how good it is. I can't imagine the pain of playing this ten years ago and having to wait through the development hell. This franchise is a diamond with the most retarded people in charge.

>>23731162
Please explain to me why you think Total Eclipse is the best. The pacing is awful, half the characters have no character, Yuuya is a racist asshole who never actually changes or gets better, the world just bends around him to justify him, and the ending was thrown together because Miyata Sou fucked the game over with his tracing. I'm legitimately curious why you think it's better than entries like TDA and SM that were at least coherent from start to finish.

>>23731211
The pacing is way better than TDA which feels extremely rushed (despite the good setting and stakes). Yuuya's character is really deep compared to a cardboard like Takeru. He has legit reasons to be racist (abandoned by his father, hated for his origins which turned into self-hatred). He's a selfish bastard running from his responsibilities and that's the whole point. Then he gets a reality check, he learns how the world isn't revolving around him. The end is him sacrificing his own identity of the perfect US patriot he tried so hard to build to get accepted by his peers to save someone else, while the US and URSS were betting on his selfishness. So I don't know what to tell you, I really like the characters. Some are goofy, but you can understand why they are the way they are. Muv-luv is mostly focused on the MC interacting with the gang trying to fit in, while in total eclipse it's the reverse with the gang trying to break the shell of someone living in his own world... and personally I prefer that.

>>23731211
>half the characters have no character
>Yuuya is a racist asshole who never actually changes or gets better
>TDA and SM that were at least coherent from start to finish
TDA isn't even complete and if the characters in TE don't change or are nonexistent then the characters in SM most certainly are not, either. How anyone thinks SM is a good entry or even deserving of a translation is beyond me. You also have to be completely retarded to think Yuuya doesn't change at all.

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>>23732177
>im reading CLANNAD VN right now
k-keep me posted

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look at that Ossi

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Just went on pixiv and looked at the muv luv section and It's all ai Gooner stuff have the artist of pen and paper left us.btw would you fuck a beta soldier class if it looked cute or warrior class

>>23732953
I feel disgusted even trying to imagine what a 'cute' Warrior or Soldier class BETA would even look like.

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>>23733023
Age already did that with Haiburu.

>>23732904
What's wrong with her? Aside from being AI generated, I mean.

>>23732953
Real artists either got displaced completely or just enough to ragequit in disgust at the sheer prolificacy of AI-generated slop. Either way, generative AI was a mistake.

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>>23732953
>Just went on pixiv
that´s your mistake right there, anon.

>>23733349
Explain.

>>23732953
real artists fallaciously assuming a zero sum game between them and ai generated art even though their art gets significantly more attention lmao

>>23733442
The site's memory capacity is limited, you know.

>>23733574
and?

>>23733596
Spamming AIslop will leave no room for actual art, and may even start displacing it if the site decides to take the screwtube option and start deleting older artwork to free up the memory needed for it.

>>23733627
I'm still baffled that Sad Panda allows that kind of content. The site is already full of dupes, and now add AI slop on top, lmao. And with that, they're still limiting how much you can download and asking you to seed.

>>23733627
oh shit my bad I thought I was about to hear an actually good argument about public attention and discoverability of NEW posts not whatever this retarded shit about old posts that are already STORED (not in memory) on dogshit hardware because nobody ever accesses it anyways

>>23733658
Are they still purging content that's not even licensed?

>>23733730
Yeah, pretty much.

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>>23732953
>it all ai gooner stuff
When the company itself ruins its own art with AI slop, I don't know what you can expect.

>>23734032
Was it ever explained why?

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>>23734080
You know maybe as time passes and artists leave us ai is prob the way to go when we wanna see mikoto get railed by a fort class beta or see Meiya drink a gallon of sperm. Ai it may be but the slop gets better day by day and I'm am the biggest Shabbos goy who eats slop.

bros, are there any other good mecha VNs other than muv-luv

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>>23734256
The Baldr series is kino.
Check out Demonbane, too.

I'll also get shit for including these, since they're technically not VNs, but I always recommend the Sakura Wars series to those who enjoy Muv-Luv, and vice-versa.

>>23734256
Muramasa

>>23734268
Should I check out Demonbane if I've never tried a Nitroplus VN before?

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>>23734443
You can always use more DOCTOR WEST in your life

>>23734270
https://files.catbox.moe/870nze.mp4

>>23734256
baldr sky
demonbane
not muramasa

>>23735183
whats wrong with muramasa?

>>23735185
Plot is retarded, characters can be and often are unreasonable/unmotivated, people complain about twizzlers and then go and defend Narahara putting in his deranged fantasies about gang raping and mutilating half of the cast. Setting and theme would've good, otherwise.

>>23735326
Sound like my kinda Vn

>>23735183
where do i find them? steam?

>>23735830
Baldr Sky's on steam, but IIRC you want a patch.

Demonbane's on JAST.

Muramasa's on JAST & GOG, but you might need a patch for the GOG version.

>>23735686
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, kid.

>>23735892
i thought gog was good because they never censor? like the rance series is completely uncensored on gog right?

>>23737044
Not sure. I've never bought a VN on gog.

There was commentary/complaints on gog/reddit a few years back of it being censored, where JAST was not.

https://help.jastusa.com/en/knowledgebase/article/muramasa-18-patch-for-gog

^ That's the patch for gog if you go that way.

I'd rank Muramasa a bit below Alternative overall, but it's easily above any of the ML spinoffs.

>>23737044
Yeah, commonly at least, the censored version of muramasa was created so it would get approved on steam, but, as you know that didnt happen.
i remember that muramasa used to have the uncensor patch as free dlc (similar to the kara no shojo trilogy) but that's maybe a mandela effect lmao.

>>23737044
>Similar to the kara no shojo trilogy
Same anon here. I just looked on GOG, and all the other Jast USA releases have an uncensor patch, except Muramasa, maybe it wasn't a mandela effect after all, lmao

>>23737983
>kara no shojo trilogy
What's that?

>>23738112
Series of visual novels developed by Innocent Grey, mystery novels set in the 1950s, inspired by the literature of the eroguro movement, specifically by the works of Natsuhiko Kyogoku (and some by Edogawa Ranpo).

It's not really on-topic because there aren't any mecha, lmao, but they do explore some post-war themes. they are cool Search them by "the shell"

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Ahem, hey, how's it going? You dogs just stay away from my wife Stella, okay? Alright, later.

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>>23738234
They had nipples into TE anime but not the VN I blame that bastard who traced art for this

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>>23709958
this is my own post im replying to cause i just wanna say i finnished muv luv alternative now and MAN I CRIED SO FUCKING MUCH THIS IS THE GREATEST FUCKING STORY IVE EVER WITNESSED IN MY LIFE

>>23709958
>>23738688
>the journey

glad to see you enjoyed it anon, welcome to suffering

>>23738688
I remember this feeling fondly. It's been 18 months since I first experienced it...

>>23738691
honestly i cant even call it suffering i just feel blessed to witness such an amazing written story

>>23738697
glad to hear, what were your moments you look back on?

>>23738710
the entire chapter 8, 9, and 10 were all basically perfect

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