>>23721468
Andy Kaufman meets Master P

>>23721468
those "people" are retarded
watch things in production order

>>23721468
hamburger

>>23721468

"Gundam: People making stupid choices"

People on this board froth over it, but I think its the weakest of the UC side stories.

>>23721468
A shit thread because you can't think for yourself

>>23721468
Over glorified mediocrity, don't let the opening scene fool you it gets shockingly boring after that.

>>23721468
contrived zeek story by gainaxtard.

>>23721511
>gainaxtard
Ano worked on this?

>>23721468
you need to watch gundam in production order

>>23721551
OG Gundam is uncle slop

>>23721560
if you feel this way you shouldn't be on this board, you won't have a good time
not even gatekeeping, i'm trying to do you a favor
this is a board dedicated to stuff you don't like

>>23721638
I liked politcal aspects of Code Geass.
My issue with Gundam is I feel it is full of high school drama.

>>23721468
It's a very good story but it has 0 context without having seen 0079. Which kind of still works since the main character is a kid with no real context of what's going on. But you should watch 0079 first.

>>23721708
Sure I do.
There is a war between the Federation and Zeon.
What else is there to understand?

>>23721527
Dunno about War in the Pocket specifically but Gainax did production assistance on Gundam multiple times

>>23721738
Definitely on CCA.

>>23721468
>I heard people recommend this as the first entry.
It kind of assumes you're coming into it with a basic understanding of the setting. Like it doesn't really explain who Zeon and the Federation are or why they're fighting.

>>23721723
Actually you need to see G reco first because it one of the main characters there is actually the gundam pilot and there she explains her backstory.

>>23721483
Zero chance of it being weaker than 0083 if you ask me

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You can expect genuine truth from a child.

>>23721655
you sounnd like an insufferable fag. mecha is not for you

>>23721855
>Zeon and the Federation are or why they're fighting.
I'd presume they are fighting over some resource like oil or unobtainium,

>>23721655
I have to second the other anon. It's a bit contradictory to ask what to expect going into a series when you've made clear you aren't really interested in trying it at all. You're wasting your time. This stuff, much less this place, doesn't seem like it's for you.

>>23721511
>anti-gainax ghoul purposely filter himself out of great Gundam content
....uh, based?

>>23722166
Stop gatekeeping.
I finished the 1st episode of War in the Pocket.
I quite liked it.

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>>23722194
Nah. You asked questions while acting dismissive and received responses as such. If you enjoyed the first episode of WiTP, that's great, but you also went out of your way to dismiss other work also from a franchise broadly considered enjoyable. Is it so wrong, then, to say that maybe you actually watching more stuff could lead to you being entertained, and watching less arbitrarily based on imagined vibes is a disservice to yourself, as the other anon told you?

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Watching WitP is like watching it blind, but I guess I enjoy guessing stuff.
I presume the blond guy is from the main series and 2nd in-command of Char Aznable.
I also believe Char Aznable is some type of space Hitler, similar to Aber Desler from Battleship Yamato.

>>23721468
Yea watch Gundam in production order.
Or at least the original series recap movies then Char's Counterattack, before you try to watch anything else.
War in the Pocket has great animation, but not only do you need to be familiar with Gundam for it to really make sense, it's also basically a critique of both the Mecha genre and of Gundam fans.
It's good, it's effective, but it's also an outlier and not really representative of the series, and again you need to be familiar with the series to really understand it.

>>23722157
eheh.
No.

>>23722304
This thread was well crafted bait wasn't it.

>>23722352
no, I'm serious

>>23721508
This happens all the goddamn time with old anime faggots
They post a genuinely awesome scene, which makes me watch the full film or series, and apart from the one scene they post the rest of it is boring dreck
Was burned hard by this with Cobra, Ninja Scroll and Jin-Roh
Of course these fags never watch anything so when you actually do watch something and it's boring, they spam zoomer at you

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Can somebody explain this to me?
Zeon just left the damaged Gundam in Federation territory?
Why? Why wouldn't they destroy it before leaving? And why wouldn't the Federation collect it and repurpose it for parts?
I was under the impression that Gundams were valuable.

>>23722377
Why are normalfags like this

>>23722392
This is a troll thread.

>>23722395
It is not.

troll line

>>23722157
The short version of it is
>Earth Federation controls space colonies
>One group of colonies (Side 3) has a revolution and declares/achieves independence
>Their leader dies under mysterious circumstances
>Autocratic family takes charge, starts arms buildup
>Years later they launch surprise attack on earth in name of colonial independence but really they just want to depose the Federation for themselves

>>23722377
It's not federation territory. Side 6 is neutral but Zeon is looking like they're to lose so they're starting to work with the Feds in anticipation of their victory. The Federation is trying to hide its military presence there. They only step in against the Kampfer for example when Side 6's own defense forces are overwhelmed.

>>23722428
I see.
In the first episode, they mention the Federation didn't have mechs before, but Zeon has had them for a longer time.
I guess I'm wondering how this separatist faction has better tech?

>>23722432
Federation initially thought mobile suits (the "mechs" a Gundam is a specific advanced/high performance kind of mobile suit) were a waste of time and resources and invested more heavily into conventional warships. Zeon saw the potential in them and when Zeon's mobile suits proved themselves in battle, the federation scambled to catch up and develop their own. 0080 is towards the end of the war, so by now the Federation has its own mass produced mobile suits (the GMs) and Gundams.

For more context, the Zaku in
>>23722377
is one of Zeon's most basic mass produced mobile suits. In the original series, they were completely outclassed by the Gundam and in 0080 there's a Gundam in development in side 6 that's even better than the one from the original series.

>>23722437
That actually sounds interesting, like how Germans didn't believe in aircraft carriers, so they invested in U-boats.
So, I presume this series is about a constant arms race?
I wonder how much the battleship feature.
>is one of Zeon's most basic mass produced mobile suits.
So, it's like the equivalent of a Stalin-era tank used by Russia in Ukraine?
Still, isn't there anything that can be repurposed?

>>23722444
HOW ABOUT YOU WATCH THE FUCKING SERIES YOU STUPID FAGGOT

>>23722444
The explanation for why the Zaku is left there I think is that it's Side 6's jurisdiction and they're busy rebuilding damage from the prior attacks so they just strip its weapons and leave it there for later. Yeah, realistically they would probably do more to secure it than that, but then you wouldn't have a story.

>>23721468
the meta narrative for it works as an endcap for everything up to char's counter attack. watching it first is a bit retarded.

>>23721527
Anno wasn't the only Gainax member.
It was written by Yamaga.

>>23722451
It's non-functional and a long way down an embankment in the middle of a park. The situation's not ideal, but plenty reasonable.

>>23721904

0083 at least has more than just a Zaku and pretty bog standard RX-78 derivitive.

>>23721745
How can you tell? Aside from reading the closing credits, I mean.

>>23722373
Ninja Scroll is pretty mid even for newfags

>>23721655
>Doesn't like high school drama
Fair enough, that's an aspect that might..
>Liked Code Geass
Anon you retard

>>23721655
GR8 B8 M8

>>23723304
To be fair, I liked the dark aspect of Code Geass.
Like the massacres and Villeta's tiddies.

>>23721468
Greatness

>>23723304
>>23723748
you see unlike other mecha ttgl is about the characters

>>23723891
isn't every mecha anime about characters, while mechas only exist to sell toys?

>>23721468
Finished episode 5.
This is pretty kino.
It's much darker than I thought Gundam would be.

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>>23721468
I now kinda want rule 34 of Chris, but I guess it can't exist because she is a minor character in a side story.

>>23721468
I don't get why it is a big deal Side 6 has a Gundam. It is an unimportant sector, and Zeon is already losing.

>>23724292
I really miss hgundam... ;_;

>>23724422
It's supposed to be neutral territory per the terms of the Antarctic Treaty.

>>23724892
big whoop not like zeon can try the federation for war crimes unless they win anyway

>>23725080
No, but they can cite that as justification for deployment of nuclear weapons in response. One treaty violation begets another.

>>23724292
Let's face it, this is where AI becomes useful.

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>>23725139
And this was the image I wanted to post.

>>23725100
Wouldn't they only be able to deploy their own forces in neutral colonies in response? deploying nukes and saying that a couple million civilian lives are now forfeit is like saying "I saw that guy park his car in my reserved space, shooting him in the head is no longer against the law"

>>23725140
the normal suit is all wrong, I can't fap to that

>>23725195
False equivalence notwithstanding, the whole use of neutral ground for further development of a weapon system that would further unbalance the state of affairs against the opposition could just as readily be criticized by the disadvantaged side as the offender using the civilian populace as human shields.

>>23725198
That's what happens when it's some AI bullshit, even her face is wrong.

>>23725235
well in that case both sides will just do whatever they want with whatever flimsy pretext to suit their own desires

e.g., see 0083 where the zeeks cry foul about a nuclear attack gundam potentially being used against them and then proceed to think themselves heroes for using the highly illegal nuclear gundam themselves and then doubling down with a colony drop as if it were the most innocent thing they could have done

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>>23722377
>Zeon just left the damaged Gundam in Federation territory?

>>23724892
doesn't explain it
You'd think Zeon would have other thigs to worry about

>>23721655
Code Geass is literal HS drama, what are you on anon?

>>23725285
That's the reason treaties are established and should be upheld.

Killing may have been a duplicitous opportunist, but at least he was under no illusions about his actions.

>>23725235
>>23725195
>>23725100
>>23724892
Zeon was already not respecting the treaty since 0079's anime where they attacked the white base so it isn't like they have much of a leg to stand on

>>23725308
A new and more powerful iteration of the weapon that played a key role in inflicting numerous strategic defeats isn't cause for concern?

>>23726236
To be fair that was kind of a dick move for White Base to accelerate out of the neutral zone and then start firing backwards at Conscon's ships while they were still inside it

>>23725271
How so?

>>23723920
Yes.

>>23725140
Isn't she like 16?

>>23729621
She's 21.

>>23725140
Isnt she like 14?

>>23731145
If it bleeds, it breeds.

>>23731145
>>23730121

>>23722407
Where?

>>23721468
you have to watch UC in chronological order

>>23722467
The Hygogg, Z'Gok-E and Kämpfer say hi.

>>23721468
Watch the 70s cartoon first or you're a fake nigga. This stuff is literally fanservice for people who watched the first 10 years of Gundam and it will mean way less to you if you watch it first.

>>23721468
Product of Japanese culture where they try to romanticize being an innocent Axis soldier and give him contrived sob reason to keep fighting for his clearly genocidal government instead of switching sides and warning about mad genocidal plan of his leadership, even though we have not a single reason to believe that him succeeding would ever stop said genocidal plan

>>23725100
>you put one (1) Gundam there
>so we nuke the place
This kind of logic demonstrates that Federation should have put there 1000 Gundams

>>23721468
Zeonwank. Like most sidestories.
Don't let it color your expectations for the rest of the franchise.

>>23726232
>they should have upheld the treaties
Hadn't Odessa happened by then?
Zeon already had proclaimed its willingness to completly violate them and use a nuke the moment they feel like losing
Neutral zones had every valid reason to back Federation because Zeon couldn't be trusted about anything, and their overreaction only made it clear that they were a bunch of mad dog killers

>>23737256
>Hadn't Odessa happened by then?
Tomino IIRC intended for both sides to be awful, the Federation just a smidge less evil. E.g., the Feds were supposed to attack the jupiter energy fleet transport traveling to zeon territory in the original ~50 episode run, and in 08th MS Team a Federation colonel intentionally tries to set the stage for a nuclear explosion which would have also killed his own troops

>Neutral zones had every valid reason to back Federation
nothing wrong with that, but ideally they should cast aside the neutrality if they do decide to do that

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>>23737260
Dunno what Tomino intended, but putting aside side stories that weren't directed by him, the end result is the Allies/Axis deal
Were Allies imperfect? Yeah
Was Axis making them look like saints? You can clearly see that by comparing numbers of killed civilians