Also previous thread, forgot that

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>>23723033
You should have chosen a better OP pic to be honest.

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Are they going to upload more episodes to
>https://www.youtube.com/@samuraitroo_pr/videos
or just the first one?

>>23723068
The first episode should have been taken down at this point since they said it will be up for a week. I wonder what held them back...

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Happy 59th birthday to the voice of Shin, Nozomu Sasaki.

>>23723231
They wanted to read more Youtube comments?

>>23724110
A prototype for a product we can't get until over a month. Looks so good... Again, I mentioned this last thread, but I pray we get a 30MS Compatible Under-Gear (Female Body) so that figures from the Sisters line (and by extension, Figure-rise) could wear the armors from both the original and new Samurai Troopers, as well as fit some armor the 30MS line can't wear on their own. And a Black Blaze paired with the White Inferno Armor so that we can see the sheaths in the right place.

Just caught up. You really can feel that Build humor in there. Yellow's basically Ryuuga but lamer.

>>23724396
Comfy

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How would this show be like if written by Urobuchi?

>>23723815
Happy Birthday king.

>>23723815
If Shin shows up, we get to hear him with a deep smokery voice.

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>>23726268
It's definitely possible. There's no leaks indicating that he'll show up, but they do confirm that all of the OG troopers, not just Ryo, are still alive.

>>23726443
I wish Ryo Horikawa should voice Seiji in Daiki Nakamura's place should he show up later.

https://x.com/i/status/2016164298754498747
Today's song cover.

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Wouldn't it just be easier to have individual episode threads rather than keep this alive through shameless deathbumping. Like I'm watching as well but lets not pretend Samurai Troopers is big/popular enough for a rolling general.

Does anyone have any scans of the 1990 Memorial albums with the original series plans and art?

>>23727220
Probably.

>>23727220
But having one thread is comfy

Am I crazy or was that Shinn dude crossdressing? Could've swore he wore a skirt but was too lazy to rewind.

The show isn't even subtle with the fujobaiting by the way, it's gone into hilarious territory now

>>23727387
*shion

>>23727387
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2025/9/9/samurai-troopers-new-anime-four-voice-cast-teaser-trailer-new-visual
He kinda is...

>>23727387

He's wearing pants so not crossdressing. The bios would've mentioned that for sure. Shion is wearing a kilt and doesn't even wear it when he's not out.

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>>23727387
>>23727388
>>23727410
>Wearing a kilt is the same as crossdressing
Green is more manly than any of you, you pansy.

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https://nyaa.si/view/2069648
How was the fourth episode?

>>23725904
Touma's teal hair gets me everytime compared to the other Troopers' relatively normal hair colors.

>>23727513
Now most of them have hair color

>>23727512
I really like how the 4 idiots are coming together now and they all share 1 braincell

>>23727589
Least they all can sing together now

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So I guess it's more or less confirmed that the new armor gears are tech-based. Two things that do intrigue me. First is that any kind of depiction regarding the OG troopers has them depicted in the gears made by Kaos, which were destroyed in Legend of The Kikotei and were replaced in Message. This tells me either that they're retconning the OVAs or they may could be treating the Suzunagi gears as like, individual power ups for them. I personally hope it's at least the latter because the Suzunagi gears look awesome.

The second thing is the Jewel of Conquest and the Sword of Domination. And the third treasure which is no doubt according to the leaks a God's armor or something. Which really seems like a retread of what happened in the original series with the Jewel of Life, the Go-retsu swords and the Kikotei. All of it being a parallel for the real world imperial regalia; the Kusanagi sword, the Yasakani jewel and the Eight Ata mirror. Like, why do this again?

>>23727600
>the neo-Samurai Troopers coordinate their battle strategy by singing outdated 90's jpop
Honestly not something i expected before starting the show

>>23727600
>>23727660
Finally, Symphogear-core. Expect more from Gai's playlist, cause he got taste.

Next week, Shion armors up for real. And now that we know the Sword of Domination is basically the modern counterpart of the previously broken Soul Swords of Fervor, what do you think will be the last of the Three Sacred Treasures, the New Inferno, or straight-up something similar to a mirror? Whoever has the answer, it's either Jun, or someone we have yet to meet.

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>>23727705
>what do you think will be the last of the Three Sacred Treasures
It's armor. Some threads ago the guy whose been translating the leaks said it was an armor but wasn't the Kikotei. It has to do with the gods getting involved.

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>Almost all the samurai troopers have lost their virginity before 15 years old in motherfucking japan
how believable is this anons?

>>23727713
extremely

https://www.greek-love.com/far-east/japan/the-age-of-the-loved-boy-in-japan-pederasty

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>>23727512
Finally answering some questions. I wasn't expecting this kind of development actually (the gate opening and the big showdown with the final boss).

>>23727600
This is very important.

>>23728254
I can see why Ramaga wants to switch bodies, his looks decrepit (but still strong).

The real question is how bad the new Ronin will job next episode. I feel like they might go for a homage to the original series and by the end of the episode the Ronin are scattered all over Japan.

>>23728393
>The real question is how bad the new Ronin will job next episode
They'll get roughed up. Nothing bad.
>I feel like they might go for a homage to the original series and by the end of the episode the Ronin are scattered all over Japan.
That really doesn't work considering there's a barrier preventing anything from getting out of the city. There isn't anything of symbolic worth for them to get sent to because unlike the Kaos gears, these new ones are artificial. Also, it's only the four of them with the DST gears. Shion hasn't taken over using the Senko armor from Ryusei yet.

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>she looks like that in the VR program
Alright, Mirei. I underestimated your game. You now have my penis' attention.

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Something I didn't notice first time around. You think he's wearing it to be fashionable, or is he, and potentially the other Braves, brainwashed slaves?

>>23728536

Only Sasuke and Kamanosuke are shown to be wearing the amulet so far. I think it's a red herring, this angle is too obvious and repetitive.

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>>23727713
This is not confirmed, just an idiot running his mouth expecting others to humour his manzai routine.

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New merch.

Yamato PV: https://youtu.be/K53NjXN0TxA?si=whSzUWIc0tHrBuaB

>>23728468
That will probably end with Ryusei dead if we saw him showing up in armor for the next teaser pics. And before the next Trooper dies, the Four Beasts could get themselves involved. Character design for one of them was leaked, and we know jack shit about them besides being part of the true world order.

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If had Granny lived, she could have prevented his wayward ways.

>>23728864
Are these ridiculous hairstyles typical of anime these days?

I've mostly been watching older stuff these past few years.

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>>23728889
Ridiculous, you say? They are pretty tame and ordinary when compared to some other haridos.

>>23728862
Side-by-side comparison to Shu/Kento
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LEkQ7igutKw

>>23728927
To be fair, those heroes are set in a distant future and far out in space, so their being weird is only natural.

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I like his fang.

>>23728927
So yeah, they're typical.

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Next episode screenshots.

Yay insert songs being posted to youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTkoNaFYuY3eocTQs4qYjA

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>>23729227
Cool, but some are missing, like セーラー服を脱がさないで

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https://twitter.com/soiwo_n/status/2016913419316973714

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>>23728862
>And before the next Trooper dies, the Four Beasts could get themselves involved. Character design for one of them was leaked, and we know jack shit about them besides being part of the true world order.

I have, for a while, started to think that Byakuen is one such of these beasts. If you look into the "Four Symbols", these four beasts that pop up throughout east asian culture (but initially rooted in China), one of them is a "white tiger". And given that Byakuen is clearly more than the ordinary tiger as he's much more intelligent and immortal (he was Kaos' companion for over 1000 years until he started staying with Ryo in 1987). I think Byakuen might be the "earthly form" of either Inmei, Gomei, Gaimei or Shimei in a similar way to how the Istari from Tolkien's works each took the forms of elderly men despite being divine beings beyond physical form.

It's also funny that might could be going with the Four Symbols, who are each themed with a direction and a season. Just like how the Demon Generals were. Although the Demon Generals' stuff is more rooted in Buddhism.

Chinese;
>Blue Dragon
East - Spring
>Red Bird
South - Summer
>White Tiger (Byakuen)
West - Fall
>Black Turtle
North - Winter

Bhuddist;
>Jikokuten (Shuten Doji)
East - Spring
>Zochoten (Rajura)
South - Summer
>Komokuten (Naaza)
West - Fall
>Tamonten (Anubis)
North - Winter

I do wonder if there will be an intentional correlation with both entities.

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So that's how Shiki were born.

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>>23729227
Which version do you like more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt4WWYm7ydk
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWZf8MrUm2U
?

>>23729402
Maybe the newer one, you hear instruments more

https://x.com/i/status/2016798978671509876
A Sunrise page for Episode 5...

>>23729402
https://gakiarchives.com/video/1603

>>23729320
I wonder if they might reference how the other Troopers were to originally have their own beasts.

>>23730129
Maybe, but I honestly can't figure out a way they'd make it happen. The first end sequence might be the closest we'll get.

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>>23729320
Looking at the original names for the heavenly kings, it's-
>Dhṛtarastra
>Virudhaka
>Virupaksa
>Vaisravana

With Virupaksa, it's said that he's the leader of the Naga, which is what Naaza's armor's name and visual themed are based on. Cool additional detail there. I hope the Demon Generals appear in the new show. With the OGs trapped in the Yoja World, it makes you wonder if they linked up to survive.

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>>23730046
They couldn't be more obvious with his death flags.

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>>23730085
This is some randomest content.
>https://gakiarchives.com/video/1215

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Okay, let's do this - episode 5 bingo.
[ ] Ryuusei dies
[ ] Mirei cries
[ ] Ramaga kidnaps Nasti
[ ] Gai henshins into his demon form
[ ] a couple of generals betray Ramaga
[ ] Gai sings Kurenai
[ ] Saizou stabs Sasuke in the back and joins the Troopers
[ ] Sasuke stabs Saizou in the back and fucks off to open a cat cafe in Hokkaido

>>23730928
>[ ] Ryuusei dies
They're gonna find the cure for his aids. This is why he's gonna get relegated to desk/support duty.
>[ ] Mirei cries
Seems out of character for her.
>[ ] Ramaga kidnaps Nasti
Maybe, but kinda doubt it. We still need her for exposition.
>[ ] Gai henshins into his demon form
That makes absolutely no sense.
>[ ] a couple of generals betray Ramaga
Nah. The Braves exist to die.
>[O] Gai sings Kurenai
I don't even know that song but okay.
>[ ] Saizou stabs Sasuke in the back and joins the Troopers
Nah.
>[ ] Sasuke stabs Saizou in the back and fucks off to open a cat cafe in Hokkaido
Nah.

>>23731239
>I don't even know that song but okay.
Not a real weeb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dApxUMZXsIs

https://x.com/i/status/2017505189050376625
A shot of those who wore the armors throughout the show. Kayura is special all by herself.

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>>23732069

>>23731239
>Seems out of character for her.
She's a woman.

>>23732161
*teenage girl

>>23732137
The official artists outside the show always questioning just how to draw Shu's body.

>>23732069
Had the 1990s sequel been greenlit and not had trouble finding sponsors, Kayura and Byakuen would have been the only OGs to return. I wonder about that.
The BomBom manga also had her and Jun take up new Trooper roles with the originals dying at the end.

>>23732349
>Had the 1990s sequel been greenlit and not had trouble finding sponsors
Is it because the bubble burst?

>>23732352
That, and with the Samurai Troopers fanbase mainly being women there was trouble getting sponsors because the toys would mainly be for young boys.

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>>23732357
Just approach sponsors other than toy companies lel. 80s/90s anime had massive music/singer output. Every other OVA/TV show came with character songs sung by seiyuu (Kimagure Orange Road, Oh My Goddess had several albums of these), or even unrelated singers/bands like Bubblegum Crisis, 3x3 Eyes.

>>23732137
Seeing the warlords in casual clothing is a bit of a mindfuck.

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>>23732412
I agree - they should have chosen something less cringe (only Anubis looks good).

>>23732417
>>23732412

Were the warlords supposed to be regular kids that got kidnapped by demons or were they 1000 years old?

The demons having schools and technology and rock bands in the new series was unexpected. I thought it was just like hell where people sit around waiting to fight all day.

>>23732471
It's not very clear. My guess was that they got corrupted by Talpa since all the armors were originally made from him.

>>23732412
Kale's fashion sense is basic, not particularly bad or good.

Dias looks like he's some pretty boy mafia member.

Anubis's clothing is okay.

Sekmet looks the worse.

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>>23732471
>Were the warlords supposed to be regular kids that got kidnapped by demons or were they 1000 years old?
400+ years old. They were all born in the mid 16th century right basically at the dawn of the Warring States period. Arago recruited them because they were all warriors put in shit situations in life because of the times and appealed to them via a combination of the bitterness growing in them from their respective situations and their core virtues and twisted them to suit his agenda. Promising them power and a more worthy master to serve (him). Out of his human servants, only Kayura was kidnapped.
>I thought it was just like hell where people sit around waiting to fight all day.
No, the Yoja world is purgatory. Or at least it's supposed to be before Arago perverted it and took it over. It's supposed to be where the souls of the dead go to work out their unfinished business before proceeding to the afterlife. But presumably it's not that far fetched about how it's different from then and now. Despite the supposed barrier erected that Nasti mentioned, she said that it had breaches over the decades. It's not that far out that people maybe accidentally found themselves there, or got kidnapped, or maybe demons came through and stole shit, or simply that people who died between then and now managed to carry over influences there from life and set trends.

Part of what also might explain it is that with Kaos dead, he's no longer around to seal keep the Yoja world from creeping in. Much like what he did with that bombed village in the 1940s in Message. He cleansed the place of human negativity to prevent the Yoja World/Arago from creeping in. This is why when he found Suzunagi there he initially thought she was a resident of the village slain from the bombings. So with Kaos no longer doing that shit from Earth might could now be occasionally spilling into there. But not at a very fast rate. Thus why they're all still using mostly pre-digital tech.

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I still can't get used to the CG. Why didn't they simply use it for models to trace from?

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>>23732610
It seems the majority of the contact happened in the 80s, which is good. Imagine if the youja world got infected with VTubers, gacha and Narou novels.

>>23728491
what do you think she does in the 24 times speed VR dressed like that?

>>23729025
I like how this nigga didn't just enter through the gate, he fucking opened his own sky portal above the gate and flew in just to flex how strong he is and how fucked the troopers are in a few days when the next episode drops.

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>>23733340
>It seems the majority of the contact happened in the 80s
I'd say more the 90s. It couldn't have been much of the 80s because they had Kaos maintaining the divide between Earth and the Yoja World from at least as far back as the Heian era all the way to 1988 when he died.
>>23733563
I've seen more than enough school uniform JAV (as it's the only kind of JAV I watch) to imagine some shit.

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>>23733564
How are they going to fight him off here? It's not even 1/2 of the first cour. Or is he only going to watch and use the 'my job here is done' card and go home without doing anything?

>>23733652
>How are they going to fight him off here?
They're not. He's gonna toy with them for a bit and then fuck off. If anything, he's probably just probing Gai's progress. Gai defecting is all according to keikaku. We know he wants to use Gai's body as his own so the purpose of this is probably letting Gai get stronger so that his body is a more suitable vessel to contain and express Ramaga's powers. And also probably because he thinks using a Human body will loophole him into being able to wield the new three sacred treasures.

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https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2018278231770529976

>>23729361
So it's not just me in noticing the silhouettes surrounding Ryusei and Shion's team were Saizo, right? He's the one who gave Ryusei aids.

It's funny reading what the japs are saying about the show. Either they don't know shit about the leaks or they're just feigning ignorance. I can't tell which.

>>23735424

Damn near everyone watching noticed. Shion even brings it up to Saizo at the beginning of the episode.

>>23735439

I've seen only one figure collector forum discuss them but it's not even all the leaks. 2ch probably has seen them too. Japs usually don't like talking about leaks anyway and view them the same way they do piracy.

>>23735424

Saizo didn't infect Ryu with samuraids. We don't know who did it yet.

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An interesting theory I came across last night from the Japanese crowd concerning Ramaga. With him being a body snatcher that can transfer his consciousness from one thing to another, the demon who we know as Ramaga may not be real, but an alias. It is supposed that he may be Badamon. It's interesting of note because he was the one who first came into contact with Arago back during the Heian era when Arago was still Human. He was the one who forged Arago his armor when Arago initially wanted the Kikotei, but Badamon convinced him he could make something of equal or greater power. And Badamon later pledged himself to Arago's service whereupon Arago would become the most powerful demon in existence for 1000 years. It may also explain why "Ramaga's" armor is so similar to Arago's and why he was able to rise to power. And of course we know he can possess bodies as he did with Kayura. The real big flaw in all of this is that we saw him get his ass killed by Ryo in the last episode when he took a blast from the Kikotei/Go-retsu swords' powers. If he could somehow survived that, it may explain how Ramaga exists as he does and why he was able to become or pose as the new Archdemon of the Yoja World. It may even could explain Sasuke and Kamanosuke's medallions (assuming the other remaining Braves don't also have their own underneath their clothes).

>>23735424
>>23735451
>>23735460
>samuraids
I also saw one thinking that Naaza could theoretically cure Ryusei of his aids.

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>>23735688
Naruto scroll lol

https://x.com/i/status/2018701014875181316
Looks like Samurai Heart gets its turn today, and it's a new remix for the show.

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>>23736223
Cool.

>>23733632
MIREI FUCKS VR OLD MEN

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>>23728491
>>23730928
>>23731239
>>23732161
>>23732197
>>23736473
>Mirei when reading these post.

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https://nyaa.si/view/2072358
How was the 5th episode?

>>23736612
:(

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>>23736612
This is the face of a miboujin.

So is Ryo Gai's biological dad ?

>>23736697
Ramaga is voiced by Konishi, not sure if he will retain the same voice.

Yamato's big brother figure that inspired him when he was young is voiced by Kusao Takeshi(Ryo's original VA).

Brave Bravern did have two characters with the same identity having two separate VAs.

>>23736697
That depends on if Ramaga was using his body at the time of Gai's conception.

I would not be surprised if Ramaga kidnapped Gai from from his actual parents and killed them

>>23736697
>So is Ryo Gai's biological dad ?
No. Ryo and the other OG troopers got lost in the Yoja World 5 years previously. Gai is 14.
>>23736820
>I would not be surprised if Ramaga kidnapped Gai from from his actual parents and killed them
This is the more likely scenario.
>>23736223
>and it's a new remix for the show.
It didn't sound like it. It sounded like the original.

>>23737053
Could be some time warping stuff going on in the demon realm.

>>23737062
>Could be some time warping stuff going on in the demon realm.
I doubt it. The leaks first established, and the show later confirmed, that Ramaga is a body snatcher. Ryo's his current host. Who he was using before Ryo went into the Yoja world was someone else. Now he wants Gai to be his new host.

>>23737066
He ultimately wants to use Gai as a conduit for reaching the Celestial Emperor. All he wants is to turn the world into one full of nothing but demons, and if he reaches that goal, then nothing, not even the Three Sacred Treasures, can stop him. Worse, with Ryusei dead and Ryo being Ramaga's new body (and the potential that he killed all the armor wearers to take in Arago's power by himself), then the Symbol of Fire is permanently gone.

>>23737085
Well so far the show has been proving the leaks are genuine at every turn so there's no reason to think the OG troopers, and even the Demon Generals, are dead until the show contradicts them. Even more so since the leaks seem to indicate that Ryo formally adopts Gai into the Sanada family. And I especially wouldn't buy Kayura being dead since she still had Kaos' shakujo, which has proven to be an extremely formidable weapon even when Shuten Doji used it.

>>23737094
I've seen some thinking Ramaga might have used up the other Troopers before, but hopefully we get clarification soon

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>>23737097
It's possible. I certainly wouldn't rule it out as it's crossed my mind as well. We don't actually know how long he can satay in one body. But considering the leaks, we right now have no reason to think that the process of being possessed by him results in death. Especially if it's anything like with what Badamon did to Kayura. Hell, if he does have 8 of them (I don't know, I just have a hard time imagining he'd be able to get a hold of Kayura), it's possible he could be rotating between them as he's not likely to get anything better (until Gai matures) and this way he could stretch out their use.

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I'll give you more leaks. As I mentioned previously, Gai's birthday is May 5th, 2009 (see the tiny text at the bottom of the sheet).

Shuten/Anubis shares the same birthday. It is also the date of Children's Day in Japan

>>23737107
>Shuten/Anubis shares the same birthday. It is also the date of Children's Day in Japan
I'll be damned if they have Gai be Shuten Doji's reincarnation or someshit.

>>23737107
so in-show this new series takes place in 2023 which the 35 years takes place from 1988 though the show is airing in 2026?

>>23737116

I can't confirm on this one. But if the show does take place in 2022/23, the OVAs are likely not canon.

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>>23737116
>so in-show this new series takes place in 2023
2022, according to Nasti's age. They might be retconning the events of the original show to 1987 now. Which means the OGs were all 14 and Nasti 17.

>>23737120
>the OVAs are likely not canon.
It's seeming that way so far. Which would suck because they weren't bad. Message was fantastic, barring the use of stock footage from the original show during the monologues.

>>23737122
Looking at this, I just had the thought that Gai might be the deal. Ramaga might theoretically could use one of the Troopers for summoning the Haotei (I hope that's the correct romanization) with the other treasures. Training up and using Gai in their place could be the deal Nasti made with Ramaga to save Ryo, Seiji, Xiu, Shin and Toma. Ramaga has them, she has the other two treasures and now Gai.

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>>23737122
Sunrise's official site and interviews with the actors do place the originals at 14 in the TV show, yeah.

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>>23736697
I don't think so. Nasti would have known. Unless he had him with a mistress and hid him from the public pretty well lel

>>23737116
>>23737120
Prepare for a time skip between the cours.

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>>23730928
[ x ] Ryuusei dies
[ x ] Mirei cries

>>23731239
>They're gonna find the cure for his aids.
YOU GOT MY HOPES UP FOR NOTHING

>>23737201
What do you think about the idea of Kaito being Touma's son?

>>23737234

This one actually makes more sense than Gai being Ryo's son and can be explained easier. It's also gaining popularity among the Japs rather quickly

>>23737094
Ryo adopts Gai at some point, yeah. But if it explains how Ryo became Ramaga, that could mean Gai went with the original team into the demon gate at age 9, and corrupted the both of them into demons. Probably the only explanation there, but the jury's still out on whether or not the eight other armor bearers are still alive.

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>>23737234
>What do you think about the idea of Kaito being Touma's son?
I generally hate the idea of protags being SPESHUL because they had SUPER SPESHUL parents. Many a battle shounen is guilty of this.

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>>23737173
>We have Inferno at home
They must know that the mega armor won't be nearly as iconic as Inferno to not even try to copy its design.

>>23737564
Better than protags that had potential love interests that went nowhere, leaving them forever virgins to appease fujos. (Looking at you, Capcom) Though I'll say that there was no romance in Samrai Troppers, there was also very little yaoi bait outside of artworks; so, I agree that the successors being the secret children of the old cast is dumb.

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With that said, if Gai is Ryo's son, even if it's unlikely, I can think of a certain crack ship, especially if Ryo has been stuck in the Youja realm for years.

>>23737602
I think I have seen a novel or doujin on Amazon or somewhere shipping her with Touma

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>>23737617
That also works because they had a few moments in the anime, and Touma was the first to fight Kayura, and when he risked his life to get Ryo to safety and had one of my favorite dub lines in Ronin Warriors.

>Rowen: Looks like I'm falling for ya, Kayura
>Kayura: You'd know I'll only break your heart.

>>23737564
If anyone is related to a member of the previous cast, it should be Ryusei's buddy. He looks like a young, pretty boy version of Dias

>>23737261
>But if it explains how Ryo became Ramaga, that could mean Gai went with the original team into the demon gate at age 9,
I find that extremely unlikely. Gai is probably just some kid Ramaga abducted AFTER making his deal with Nasti to spare the lives of the OG troopers. And it's especially more plausible given that the divide between Earth and the Yoja World has been weakening.
>and corrupted the both of them into demons
Neither are demons though. Ryo is possessed by a demon or a Jiryoshu and Gai was placed under a glamour spell and raised to believe he was a Demon.
>but the jury's still out on whether or not the eight other armor bearers are still alive.
We can't say for the Demon Generals and Kayura, but the leaks confirm that the OG troopers are in fact all still alive. With the other four still in captivity.

>>23737602
>>23737635
I sincerely doubt Kayura would suddenly start aging out of nowhere to have kids.

>>23737683
That doesn't really line up with their names. Rajura is supposed to be a kinsman of Kuroda Kanbei. Shion is a descendant of Ishida Mitsunari. I don't think they'd go and give them such names and muddy the references. Which is why I don't buy the whole Toma = Kaito's dad bullshit. Toma's supposed to be a descendant of Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Kaito's a descendant of Uesugi Kenshin.

Ironically, historically, neither of the later two have living descendants. Hideyoshi had a son, Hideyori, but he was forced into seppuku in 1615.

>>23738286

Because fictional stories NEVER make up fantastical scenarios right? Magical samurai armor is real right? The youja world is real right? When you try to argue against anime logic using real world logic, that's when you lose.

>>23738291
I'm not arguing against fantastical scenarios. I'm debating that the showrunners between both shows made very clear relations between the characters and historical figures. If they were going to muddy that then they wouldn't have bothered with making those connections and thus we'd get more characters like Mirei, Jun and Shuten Doji, who have no connections to historical figures.

>>23738267
>I sincerely doubt Kayura would suddenly start aging out of nowhere to have kids.
Even if you want to go with the whole, 400-year-old is actually 12, it wouldn't matter since Ryo would only be a few years older. That and I'm most likely convinced Sunrise doesn't care about her age as much as some of the fans here do.

>>23738307
>the showrunners between both shows made very clear relations between the characters and historical figures

If it hasn't been written down in black and white, then it's not confirmed. So no, it's not "clear". Fans just ASSUMED that these guys are the ancestors of the troopers. Notice how in all the wiki articles (even Wikipedia) definitive language is NOT used. It's always "most probably", "could be" "most likely". You played yourself.

>>23738317
>Fans just ASSUMED that these guys are the ancestors of the troopers
Seiji and Shin directly state that they're the descendants of Date Masamune and Mori Motonari in the show. And the numerous databooks, if I've been told correctly, say that bulk of the cast share relations with such figures (like Ryo being a descendant of Sanada Nobushige, or Xiu being a descendant of Minamoto no Yoshitsune). And while the assumption part is technically true regarding the new show's cast, I'd not be surprised that they'd follow suit with dropping info about them in supplemental materials like they did with the original cast over the following decades between now and when the original show first aired.

>>23738327

Where did Seiji and Shun actually say that? What's the episode number? No character ever stated which real life historical figure they're supposedly descended from. As for the data books, what do you mean "if I've been told correctly"? You never actually checked them? I have some of them and NOTHING was confirmed. Shu's ancestor was fictional and fans assumed he was a descendant of Minamoto no Yoshitsune. Get the fuck outta here with your crap.

>>23738340
>Where did Seiji and Shun actually say that? What's the episode number?
Second episode, I think. >>23738340
>what do you mean "if I've been told correctly"?
I can't read japanese. How else am I to get such information?
>Get the fuck outta here with your crap.
Why? I'm enjoying myself being able to talk about a show I haven't been able to in years.

>>23738349

FUCKING KEK

>>23738357
>I think I know who you are actually
Who? I've never seen Samurai Trooper discussion on 4chan that I can remember and I haven't namefagged on here, on /m/ of all places, since Gundam 00 was airing.

>>23738359
The droolers strike again.

But tell us, what do you think of Shu's body type, anon.

https://x.com/i/status/2019335185305915489
On the next Samurai Troopers, what is their next move when one of the new Troopers died and one of the old ones became a puppet for Ramaga? The real story begins now.