>t. Quattro Bajeena

>>23728495
Lalah, stop it. We get it, you love him

His entire track record is jobbing to Amuro in OG, to rando Titans in Zeta and then dying in CCA. Any MC worth his salt in UC mogs him to hell and back.

>>23728511
>Any MC worth his salt in UC mogs him to hell and back
What about the AU MCs?

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>>23728495
make way for the TRUE best UC pilot with way superior achievements than that faggot

>>23728495
Im pretty sure that like a third of his recorded OYW accomplishments were by people mistaking Johnny Ridden for him

>>23728511
>is jobbing to Amuro
They end up hitting a stalemate more than anything else
>In 'Destroy Gundam' and 'Vote to Attack', he kicks the fuck out of the Gundam and it only survives because of its superior specs
>In 'Re-Entry to Earth' they both have to withdraw because they're starting to burn up
>Forces Amuro into a retreat in 'Winds of War', then gets called off by Garma before he can pursue
>Runs off without fighting in 'Tragedy in Jaburo'
>Gets his Z'Gok crippled and runs away in 'A Wish of War Orphans'
>M'Quve interrupts and orders Char back in 'The Duel in Texas'
>Gets his Gelgoog crippled and retreats in 'Lalah's Dilemma'
>Char and Amuro both retreat after Lalah's death in 'A Cosmic Glow'
>The Gundam and Zeong are both destroyed in 'Escape', just to end on one last inconclusive fight

>>23728495
The main issue is his performance in Zeta, where he even got in stalemates with nameless grunts at times.

>skill
Absolutely not, even just looking at 0079 and Zeta, he's inferior to Lalah, Yazan, Haman, and Scirocco at the very least.
>longevity
Yeah Char is good at surviving when he absolutely should be killed.

>>23729120
And Kamille

>>23728495
Is he even actually better than Gato or Johnny Ridden (whichever one)?
I feel like Gato would give Amuro WAAAAY more trouble than Char

>>23728495
Char's skill as a pilot is not consistently potrayed across the various pieces of media in which he appears. Sometimes he'll be godlike and others he's swept aside like a ball of dust by a blithering infant. He's exactly as good as the story requires.

>>23728543
I feel nauseous

>>23728495
Char is a fraud who only took down mooks. Amuro was taking down aces left and right.

Char's record is like having Lebron go against schoolchildren.

>>23731022
like it or not, Tobia's accomplishments and pilot career is in a whole different class compared to every other gundam MC

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>The last episode of Zeta when Haman uses the Qubeley's funnels like a surgeon to dismember the Hyaku Shiki's limbs because she doesnt actually want to hurt the cockpit and kill him
It is the little details like that which really elevate Zeta for me.

char midznable

>>23729099

It was blatantly clear amuro was demolishing char in the zeong up untill amuro left the gundam.

>>23729120
>inferior to haman and scirocco
>when both couldn't get the job done 2v1 while in much superior suits

>>23731134
Scirocco never even took a hit from him. They were toying with him

>>23731139
lmfao

>>23729099
>>Char and Amuro both retreat after Lalah's death in 'A Cosmic Glow'
Remind me with did Lalah die? Who was about to die and forced her to save his ass?

>>23731134
See>>23731039

>>23731141
But that was because of Sayla

>>23728495
In my head, Char was at the peak of his piloting prowess in the One Year War and his skill in the cockpit degraded after that. He became more of a commander and eventually spiritual/philosophical leader, more interested in bigger picture concepts (such as what it means to be a Newtype) during the Gryps era which culminates in CCA. As a point of comparison, Amuro never loses sight of the world around him, which is why he's the good guy and Char isn't. And also why he's a better pilot.

Genuine monster tier
>Amuro

Newtype tier
>OYW Char
>Kamille
>Scirocco
>Judau
>Haman
>Uso

Ace tier
>Ramba Ral
>Post-OYW Char
>Yazan
>Jerid
>too many to list but you get the picture, this sort of guy

Good tier
>Apolly
>Roberto
>Mouar
>etc.

>have Amuro almost job to Char in the novel version of CCA, only got saved due to babynewtypehax (and people thought newtype dolphins were retarded)
>have Amuro stomp Char in the animated version of CCA
>has a phone game where Amuro jobs to Char, granted there was a large difference in spec but that didn't stop Amuro in the REGZ

It's like they can't make up their minds.

>>23728543
Non-canon fanfic.

>>23731576
The point is theyre evenly matched and the fight can go either way, the results only feel inevitable once theyve already transpired, once one of them gains the upper hand in the fight it quickly resolves in their favor, this isn't because one is so much better than the other its just the nature of mobile suit combat being brutal quick and decisive. Once things turn against you there is no coming back.

>>23728541
NTA, but pretty sure most if not all AU MCs mog him as well.

>>23731677
At least as far as the movie is concerned, I'd say Amuro has a consistent edge over Char throughout their final fight, largely by exploiting engineering shortcomings of Sazabi. But ultimately you're still right, all those minor advantages Amuro builds up are not fight winners until Nu Gundam slices off Sazabi's arm, and you could argue that only happened because Nanai distracted Char over comms.

>>23728495
None of this would be a debate if violate man awakened NT powers.

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>>23728507

>>23728495
He's also dead kwab.