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Thoughts on Kurumada's forays into /m/?
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>>23735112
There are, the original TV series adapts the manga pretty faithfully, but the sequel to the anime, b't X Neo goes for an original direction of the story, while the manga continues building up from the stablished story.
Both are good though
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>>23735051
Imo, Kurumada's best work, not only because he finished the damn thing, but because of the themes and concepts it dared to explore (tech development, applicaiton, our own origin as the Sun spawns, etc).
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>>23735112
The anime and the manga are almost the same until the middle of the story, when X is finally too damaged after so many subsequent nonstop fights and the grim reaper guardian slices off one of its wings.
After that both diverge considerably:
- In the OVAS Teppei and the rest of the Guardians arrive almost immediately to the Area where the Raphaello B't monster is growing non stop, however, we don't get to see its actual form, just some giant black sphere of mass. The ending is pretty sad as it is implied he and everyone else die after they manage to recreate actual sunlight to kill the monstrosity, as Karin, Karen's sister (and Teppei's master) is in Fou's church, reading the story to a bunch of kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFZt16hrFIw
- The manga is quite different. We get to see the fights vs all the 7 Dark Generals that were still missing in the OVAS, one even includes a math duel in which Hokuto poses a question that makes the enemy B't think so hard it blows up its brain lmao, while the final General is literally Phoenix Ikki from Saint Seiya.
Raphaello's origin, its creator and final form are revealed and the final battle takes place in outer space, where Teppei gathers the light of the millions of suns out there in the universe to destroy the monster.
The ending is a bit lackluster compared to the OVAs: Teppei and everyone else go separate ways to return to the Earth, but in the atmospheric reentry X burns up to ashes, using all its remaining energy to protect Teppei and his brother. The final panel is him and his brother in the distance, arriving to the island where they lived, where a bunch of dogs greet them.
Both are really good on its way and I'd say are worth a read and watch.
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>>23735135
Sounds good. Thanks for the info.
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>>23735135
also, non shit quality of that last episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQkSi94uSsQ
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Man, I thought this is "the" thread, but it turns out this is not "the" thread. But I will ask anyway:
Thoughts on Manabe Jouji's forays into /m/?
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>>23735142
There was Silent Knight Sho in the middle but Kurumada pretend it never happened because Shueisha ordered him to do another Saint Seiya. The manga bombed and Shueisha wanted to move Kurumada to a seinen magazine with less readers, Kurumada felt offended and left WSJ. He signed with Kadokawa in exchange of creative freedom and that's how B't X born. Many years later Kurumada return to Shueisha but after ensuring his rights over his works
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>>23735420
ah yes, that series ran for like what? 3 volumes?
B't X is really enjoyable for me, the premise is simple but the notion that everything in the solar system and therefore, us, are the children of the Sun and the special people are those who were able to make it shine is an idea that captivated me and I don't think any other media has ever tried to make a story about that idea
then there's the fact X is the underdog for the entire first half of the 3 story and Kurumada really kicked it out of the park with his mecha designs
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It is handled by bits:
While in the underground hell to which Kotaro is sent, he discovers that Raphaello's weakness is the sunlight. After some time he comes up with the final equation needed to fully discern how to destroy it but answer is ridiculous: you would need to suddenly expose Raphaello to the Sun's direct mass and light instantly. Not only there is not enough energy in the Earth to even do that, the damn planet would break apart if that happened.
While Teppei and the rest of the Guardians are breaking through the Area's defenses and battling the Dark Generals, Raphaello's body inside the central tower keep growing and growing. By the time Kotaro escapes up to the tower he realizes it has created a sort of cocoon from which it will emerge to be able to resist the sunlight. At last, it emerges, a giant body with a bird like face and a hollow head.
The monster at first does nothing. It does not even move. Everyone wonders what is it waiting for but Misha, the little kid that serves as the Emperor's representative states the obvious: it is a B't, it is just waiting for its rider.
Teppei's arrival makes the monster react by instinct, as he carries a piece of the Sun, Raphaello's weakness. In the ensuing battle the central tower of the Area explodes but Kotaro manages toe escape at the last second by activating a teleporter in Misha's seat.
He appears in a satellite orbiting the Earth, where the Machine Emperor awaits, but Kotaro realizes it is nothing but a bunch of dusty bones. The true form of the emperor is behind the throne: a giant tank containing a gigantic human-like brain, very similar to Dr Willow from one of the early DBZ movies.
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>>23737885
The Emperor briefly tells Kotaro who is he: by the middle ages he was already a man who had lived over 200 years thanks to the application of science. By that time he was already developing the B'ts and Raphaello had already been created.
At that time he met and recruited Misha for his psikokinetic powers, in exchange of curing his sister's sickness and allowing them to "live" forever (as androids whose consciousness were transferred to new bodies once those eventually broke down).
The entire satelite is made to fit in Raphaello's hollow head to create the perfect being. As Teppei and the Guardians arrive to fight everything seems useless, their attacks do nothing and the Emperor placed the satellite in a specific point where the sunlight does not reach. Nonetheless, Teppei's piece of the sun manages to make every other sun in the universe react, gathering in his fist all that light to deliver the final blow.
The Emperor does not die, but ends up drifting in space in its satellite as a useless piece of junk.
Pic is the Emperor as he looked like during that flashback in the middle ages.
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>>23737890
the Emperor's true form
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>>23738077
not all surprising considering Teppei is a Seiya clone riding the Pegasus Cloth Object lol
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>>23738091
I know but they look almost the same, there is a reason why it is known as mecha seiya
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>>23735142
the SS ripoff isn't even this but Shulato