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/ourlobby/: Leaf (dead again)
Console release is here! (Nintendo Switch, Sony Playstation 4 and Playstation 5, Microsoft Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdeHoARfYM
========= Events =========
Game got acquired by a new publisher (again), hope shelved since they're focusing on something that might succeed instead.
Check the thread for possible events (it could happen!)
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>Steam page: http://store.steampowered.com/app/574980/Thems_Fightin_Herds/
>Patch Notes: http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=574980
>Notation and Input Primer: https://forums.themsfightinherds.com/index.php?threads/785/
>Fighting Game Beginner's Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lKYmLqfbLibXy0LAwatZLw8yojaB8xVkGy sOgZnm2uI/
>Mizuumi Wiki:
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Them's_Fightin'_Herds
>1.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEBOSUOLTXM
>Shanty trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiw3kMTAVFo
>3.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsG0DYF1yo
>Texas reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSM20gOntLM
>Texas trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZnTSwOLgo
>Stronghoof reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ6d1NSF5UI
>Nidra reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi725FRDS88
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I LOVE VELVET!!!
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I decided I hate you all today.A TFH character should have been in CrossWorlds.[\spoiler]
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everything else aside, this reinforces my view that they should have had baihe wear her armor in her in-game sprites, not just because she literally has armor as a mechanic but also to establish her personality and differentiate her more from tianhuo
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i luv Mop
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I love seeing TFH OCs and I must admit that some of them have great designs
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>>42942700
A pirate giraffe? That sounds like something Shanty would approve of
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Emo giraffe
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you say this like they didn't create her out of sheer lack of budget
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despite looking a lot like tianhuo, i don't think she actually shares many frames of animation with her, so they still had to draw all of them
a character of a different species would have probably taken around the same time and budget to make. they probably had her planned way before the financial trouble started
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>>42943771
she has a very straightforward playstyle and is a cute cow.
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>>42943771
Cause why not?
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When Pigs Fly
OC by LuckyClau
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Season 2 (2028) will have a muntjac fighter
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>>42947345
Fun fact, most cervids (deer and related mammals) have scent glands around their eyes, including Velvet. They're just extremely big on muntjac
Muntjac are tough little fuckers
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>>42943508
>a character of a different species would have probably taken around the same time and budget to make. they probably had her planned way before the financial trouble started
what an odd decision for a character then
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Velvet has one of the most stupid looking kits of any fighting game character I've ever seen. BlazBlue tier chip damage, projectile traps that can fire even when she's blocking, unreactably fast projectiles with fullscreen combo conversions?
What does the tierlist for this game look like?
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>>42949640
she's a kusoge character that only gets away with it because she has really hard execution
she used to be considered not good because you could just block her shit all day long but after they buffed the chip damage a lot of people think she's top 3 or the best
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For most of the game's active lifespan she was mid tier, she has very limited mix and pressure, is extremely resource reliant and her damage is gated behind some of the hardest execution in the game. Her chip used to be much more reasonable and she had a bunch of inherent weaknesses like 5C whiffing on crouch outside point blank that limited her strings and conversions even further, but she had an amazing plus and then nerfed to just safe on block reversal that most characters had hard call out to punish and with resources was pretty uncontestable in neutral so she was a tricky and somewhat unstable zoner that could dip into kinda janky setplay or cash out the right hits for big damage if you had the execution which made her a rare sight in tournaments but not without top level representation. But she got most of those things toned up over time as her zoning was pretty low reward for medium risk and she got easily the most practical and strongest level 3 in the game which actually does get used a decent amount since she doesn't have a reversal super and only needs it for combos off certain hits if she wants the magic refund, and then in the final kusoge update they cranked the shit out of her chip damage so now she has better conversions, better neutral, and you lose 30% of your health to chip nearly unavoidably over the course of the round.
The competitive scene is pretty dead so there's not a lot of data to base tier lists on but very roughly it's like
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Dads, then Oleander and Velvet
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Everyone else
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Shanty, maybe Pap I don't know what state she's in right now
Baihe is tournament banned because she's an unfinished janky mess in the current public version rather than for power level reasons, I think if you ignore the broken shit she'd work out to somewhere mid tier, and I don't know enough about Nidra to say but I suspect she'd be pretty strong if anyone actually learned her well
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to be fair the other top tiers are also kusoge garbage
>oleander's teleport turning every projectile into a 50/50, 5A, epilogue, Fred on block
>pom simultaneous high/lows, herding+dog, 5B, level 1 super, dog armor
>stronghoof wind, vetr shield, ToD damage from sneezing on you
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>>42943508
>a character of a different species would have probably taken around the same time and budget to make
It would have taken the same time to ANIMATE, but consider how much of her gameplay is taken from Tianhuo and then tweaked. They both have a superjump and airdash, they both have a low profile forward dash, their 6As are almost identical except Baihe's is turbobuffed compared to Tianhuo's, their frame data on the whole is pretty remarkably copypasted despite the hitboxes and hit properties sometimes changing (I found that the blockstun of their ground AND air normals is 100% identical besides 6A; frame advantage can be different but that's because of recovery frames changing), and at least some of Baihe's specials are directly pulled from Tianhuo's unreleased boss fight, including her Backdraft which is LITERALLY in Tianhuo's data, has been since version 1.0, and can be accessed by hacking the game. Several other moves like "Ground Fireball" exist in leftover data for Tianhuo's boss scripts so there's a good chance those were reused for Baihe as well.
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Waow. I wonder if Texas and Nidra's movesets have recycled boss attacks too. Chapter 2's cancellation was probably set in stone the moment they decided to make Texas playable because then they couldn't have an Arizona boss fight.
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>>42949640
>What does the tierlist for this game look like?
Very indecisive, everyone hard-downplays their mains while upplaying the characters they hate. If you look in certain places you'll see people defending Texas as a mid- or even low-tier and claiming people just refuse to learn the matchup.
Baihe is the obvious top 1 and is banned from competitive play though that's mostly because of a lingering bug that crashes the game against Pom. There's a year-old beta patch fixing that crash that the new IP owners plan to release as soon as they can (there's some complicated legal work in transferring ownership across all the different SKUs, apparently) and when that happens there's no real reason to keep her unbanned while the dads are rampaging; might as well fight broken with broken
Oleander is imo the best legal character in the game, with the best buttons in the game, a 29f teleport that she picks the side she lands on, a risk-free double jump and a unique meter leech mechanic. If it was only this she'd probably be #3 behind the dads, but she also has a puppet, Fred, that she can spend two bars of meter to summon and guarantee she wins the round unless she makes a HUGE mistake. Fred is spammable, cannot be interrupted in any way unlike the other puppets of the game, turns Oleander's teleport into a plus-on-block unreactable 50/50 from anywhere on the screen, and although his timer is set to last 17 seconds Oleander can extend it by hitting moves with Fred or by reading. Oleander has the largest meter size in the game but the combination of meter leech and the ability to read to gain meter in neutral means she'll get to use Fred during round 3 almost every match, sometimes during round 2.
Dads are the game's pay-to-win characters and a nightmare of game design, sitting slightly below Oleander. Given the choice between nerfing Oleander and nerfing the dads I would nerf the dads. Their options are massive, disjointed and uninteractive, covering most-to-all angles a character can take, they're never punishable, they have tons of weird jank that can make hitting them or comboing them inconsistent, and they have massive damage. Stronghoof can even ToD some characters when most of the roster can only barely two-touch in ideal cirumstances, and this is AFTER they nerfed Shoof's damage. They're awful to play against, some characters like Shanty have nigh-unwinnable matchups against them, and I think more people would compete in TFH if there were tournament series that banned them. Just ban the whole season pass, Baihe is banned already and nobody plays Nidra (who has fast safe overheads and who also has ToDs like Stronghoof). The vanilla cast is generally pretty balanced against each other with the weaker characters being able to compete against the stronger ones reasonably enough, the dads fuck all that up
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>>42950451
>everyone hard-downplays their mains while upplaying the characters they hate.
what about people who know their main is mid at best unless you figure out stomp loops and other jank? The Sheeple's elbow isn't as unblockable as it used to be even though people keep falling for it.
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>>42950538
If you mean maincord, good players who have things of actual value to say learned to leave maincord alone a long time ago due to Cam's iron fist and fragile ego, and after Mane6 got fired there wasn't really any reason to come back. So it's just the same three autists who don't really play the game hanging out there now
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>>42950594
my favorite is that when the news came Aaron left immediately with no words or warning. Just booked it asap.
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arizona's stomp loops aren't even optimal actually, they're just for showing off
tk. headbucks are a big deal for damage, but that's really the only main execution barrier to full potential arizona
j.A and j.C are way safer overheads than elbow that can cross up or fuzzy too, so elbow is kind of a risky gimmick even if it does work sometimes
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>>42950760
He definitely later only started caring about the money with how hard he was trying to scam everyone. As soon as he was fired he took what little money he made and ran, never looking back. It also appears that he's completely left the internet aswell.
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>>42951523
tk. stands for Tiger Knee, which is a quarter circle input, but with an added up-forward input. It's called that because that motion used to be how Sagat from Street Fighter did a move called Tiger Knee Crush.
Since launchers are jump-cancellable, a lot of characters have tech that involves doing launcher and then a tk. input to cancel launcher into a special during their pre-jump frames. Arizona has combos that do this with launcher into headbuck B to get extra damage without having to use j.C and use up her groundbounce.
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y'know tweaking the first hit JD value of some of the more overtuned moves in the game to make them less rewarding would be a really easy way to balance patch the game (literally just changing some numbers) but people are so used to the existing combo routes that it would be extremely disruptive
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Great, even more reason to dislike it
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she's ready to go rambo
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>>42954971
That's Deltashit
And Ralsei is a pony in Chapter 3 so it doesn't break board rules
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But have you considered Velvet mirrors, where in which there is constant decision making and interactions at every range, a delicate ballet of resource management and carefully considered zoning, truly living up to the divine name of The Floof?
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>>42955551
I'm pretty sure the target audience for Deltarune is terminally online people in their mid 20s to early 30s. Undertale is more than 10 years old at this point and Deltarune's first chapter released more than 7 years ago, people are getting older
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No, you'd have to change so much about the situation that lead to its creation to end up with anything other than a fighting game that hypothetical comparisons are meaningless even if other kinds of media are more popular, it can only exist as a fighting game.Faust is cursed so it would have never made it to release as a cartoon anyway
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Just some new bread
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that aint good
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>>42964132
Excuse you, Baihe is the very tightest cannon in all of the longma guards, there are none tighter than Baihe. Baihe will show you how tight a cannon she is.
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I kinda hate the way Tianhuo was designed...
Dealing with her mix kind of requires abusing faultless defense, but it just makes her hella plus and too far away to interact with. It makes playing optimally against her so boring, but way too in her favor if you try to interact with it.
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wait a second... She reminds me of this OC, is it her or just a coincidence?
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>>42971679
Correct. Velvet should always be present with antlers and floof.
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Rock moves the wrong way
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from reindeer to whitetail deer
prime target for cars.
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how would a regular deer's playstyle go? Would they be the more tree-focused character that uses a lot of plant-themed attacks? Or would she have a billion armor to reflect how hitting a deer can total your car?
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I remember it all, Beef
The taste of every wasted hour spent in that cursed, empty lobby. The warmth of my rage boiling in my chest as the inescapable stunlock combo loop never ended. I remember the screams of my mine as I watched myself get trapped in an infinite corner loop by a cartoon alpaca.
You call this a 'fighting game'? You call this 'balance'? You built this game and community on the corpse of a dead pony mod and expected us to worship it!
I cannot forgive your hitboxes, which extend beyond the laws of the arena. I cannot forgive your 'Magic' system, a blasphemy against the true technical prowess of the genre. Your 'Story Mode'—a fragment, a hollow shell—I cannot forgive!
I cannot forgive the eyes of those who claim the roster is 'unique' when it is but a handful of ungulates mocking the spirit of competition. Your lives, spent labbing setups for a game no one plays, I absolutely will not permit to continue.
I am the embodiment of the FGC’s regret. I am the manifestation of every 'Refusal to Rematch.'
I wisj I could consume every copy. To tear down the servers until not a single pixel remains. I wish to reduce the whole thing to nothing and scrub your patch notes from the history of this world.
I wish everything ended here. No more galloping. No more grazing. Only the end of the long, trash dream you forced others to endure.
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ADORASEXY <3
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I'm not him
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It is the Faputa speech, you dope. So Beef is currently tisming over Made in Abyss and finished season 2.
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>>42978670
What chapter are you on? The Faputa speech is in chapter 55. It goes like this, look how similar it is to his speech.
"I remember it all, Reg.
The taste of the time I spent with Gabroon.
The name you gave me.
The warmth of the sun that Mother could never know.
I remember the hatred... of the time I spent watching you people greedily devour my mother.
I cannot forgive your eyes, that looked upon us as food.
I cannot forgive your mouths, that speak the same language as Mother while spitting out prayers.
I cannot forgive your bodies, that desecrated Mother to save your own skins.
I cannot forgive your lives, that you have sustained for so long.
I cannot forgive your spirits.
Your joys... Your sorrows... Your history...
I will not let any of it continue.
I will erase your very existence.
Everything ends here.
No more gathering. No more balancing.
Only the end of the long dream you forced us to endure."
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So the Donkey Kong Country trilogy was released one year after each other and that was 30 years ago, what's TFH's excuse for not having a single story level for over 4 years?
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The first DKC had 1-2 mill budget and 20+ devs also >>42979990 RARE had some great talent back in the day. 1 mill back then = 2 mill today.
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>”I… don’t like boys.”
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sad story, I cri errytime
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that’s a big hitbox
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Plap both, at the same time.
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>>42987735
Yes she is
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>>42974169
cripes, why is this unicorn so damn SEXY?? Even so, I would never be unfaithful to my goat wife
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I would never be unfaithful to my sheep wife either
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>having more than one ungulate wife
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I love my wife (singular)
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Yes you have. Repent.
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I am beyond repentance
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>Play Dock Roulette
>You and an opponent take turns licking/sucking the tails of longmas that aren't aflame
>You're safe as long as you don't get a face or throat full of fire within a few seconds
>Rig the game to your favor by befriending them all ahead of time, win all your foes' belongings as they're burned one at a time
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I'm so sorry about you guys' game. Lauren Faust deserved better, I love the world of Foenum and all her character designs. Just wonderful. May you all get your various ungulate waifus sometime soon, maybe even when you sleep tonight. Much love brothers
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Thanks. I really wish TFH wasn't mismanaged like it was. It deserved far better.
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>>42996362
>Arizona
Cheap Android
>Velvet
The latest Iphone
>Oleander
A black Android with an edgy wallpaper, but with pastel goth apps
>Paprika
A Window's phone running Linux and Mac at the same time.
>Pom
Old Android. The screen barely works and some buttons are missing, but she doesn't want to throw it away because it was a gift from her brother.
>Tian Huo
Android with a hard case and protective screen, filled with military pictures that could be leaked to the Foenum TikTok if she has one "Military Spec" moment.
>Shanty
Stolen Iphone that she couldn't unlock (yet)
>Texas
Android with broken screen
>Stronghoof
Iphone as well, but he totally had one of those old Nextel phones where a button gave you an instant call, and a PDA.
>Baihe
Buggy android (it just works)
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If you're referring to GGI, they haven't canned anything, the community manager was very upfront that they want to return to development but will only be able to do so if their upcoming game, which all hands are on deck to get finished, is financially successful.
If you're referring to MaxEnt, they did put money into the game seeking avenues they thought would be profitable (console ports, paid DLC), and by the time all that got made the company was in dire financial straits anyway
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>Velvet goes from pleading with you in a hushed voice to being mesmerized by the bundle of hay in your hand
>Anooon can you please stop waving that hay in my face it's very distracting...
>I'm only holding it I don't see what the big dea-
>Also we're in public and other reindeer are starting to stare!
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Ungulates should settle their competitive natures in more productive ways. Like kissing.
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If this game ever gets an update, do you think they'll drop console support? I doubt even 1 person has launched this game on switch in the past year and I doubt more than like 50 people have launched it on xbox ever. PS4 maybe has a handful of people who want to play because PS4s are basically just fighting game machines and they're easy to drag to events.
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If mane6 did the prep work well then just releasing a finished update on console(except switch since it has performance issues that would require specific fixes) shouldn't be a massive amount of extra hours, their problem during last time was trying to keep all the versions at parity for crossplay which meant you had to keep multiple versions in development at once and deal with coordinating updates and shit.
If the new owners are smart they'll at the very least drop crossplay, it's unfortunately just not really worth it when 95% of the playerbase is going to be on pc anyway as impressive as it was for a team that small to pull it off in the first place, but it might still be worth it to do console ports that only get updates at major versions. Switch2 might be able to run the game this time too.
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I think in the best case we'll get PC betas that eventually get pushed to live with consoles included, like the December beta but regularly updated with hotfixes until it's good enough to go through the console review process. They'd never drop console support even if the majority of players are on PC.
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the alpaca would be softer
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the sheep would be softer
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how can you rate the softness if you never touched one IRL?
Therefore I am the peak soft rater, I have touched sheep wool IRL and its very soft, in fact I am touching one right now underneath my feet.
Oh yeah I have sheep wool rug to warm my feet
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thread be like
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for now
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